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Changes are looming for how students will be selected to fill Wake County's magnet schools.

Asst. Supt. Chuck Dulaney told board members on Tuesday that his staff will be working on a formal board policy on magnet schools. This would help formalize the year-to-year guidelines that his staff develops.

One of the goals of the new board policy would be to try to address how some non-magnet schools are being negatively impacted by magnet schools. In other words, you could see changes that make it harder for some students to get into the magnet program.

Dulaney presented data on Tuesday showing how magnet schools, the calendar application process and transfers are impacting individual schools.

In one of the most extreme cases, Fox Road Elementary has 1,178 students in its base. But 463 largely non-F&R students are opting out of the school. For instance, the F&R percentage of the magnet students leaving is 7 percent and it's 17 percent for those leaving for year-round schools.

The F&R percentage for those 1,178 base students is 46 percent. But it jumps to 66 percent at Fox Road after those 463 students leave.

Dulaney also used the example of Dillard Drive Middle to highlight what he called the "two-edged sword" of the magnet program.

Dulaney said Dillard has the largest base population of any middle school. Of the 1,808 in the base, 813 are out through magnet, year-round and transfer applications.

The departure of those 813 students raises the F&R percentage of Dillard's base from 22 percent to 36 percent.

Dulaney said that on one hand they need people to leave Dillard because they don't have enough space on campus. But he said they need to monitor the situation to be careful that it "doesn't become a self-fulfilling prophecy" in which the rising F&R rate causes even more middle-class families to leave.

The F&R percentage also rises at Knightdale and East Wake high schools because of people opting out for magnet schools or transfers.

But rather than add a new magnet program at East Wake High, Dulaney urged board members on Tuesday to deal with both eastern Wake schools by changing the magnet selection process.

Dulaney said that magnetizing East Wake High would likely result in the school getting students from Knightdale High's base. While it would lower the F&R rate at East Wake High, it wouldn't do anything for Knightdale.

Dulaney said magnetizing Knightdale High would compete directly with the new magnet program at Millbrook High.

Dulaney will report back to the board on Oct. 27 with some preliminary magnet recommendations and possibly a draft policy, He said he was surprised that no board policy is already in place considering how important magnet schools are to Wake.

School board member Lori Millberg said the data points to the need to change how magnet schools are filled. For instance, she again brought up the idea of lowering the percentage of magnet seats that are filled randomly from the current 10 percent to 5 percent.

Millberg also suggested the idea of limiting how many applicants a magnet school could draw from a particular base school. For instance, she complained about how the Wake Early College got 58 students, more than a quarter of its enrollment, from East Wake and Knightdale high schools.

But board member Ron Margiotta said they should make schools more attractive so that people don't want to leave instead of just reducing the magnet odds.

But Millberg questioned where they'd get the dollars to improve those non-magnet schools.

Click here and here for handouts out how magnet, calendar and transfer students are affecting the bases for each schools. You numbers crunchers will love all the data.

UPDATE

Links for handouts now working. 

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Ok, maybe it's just me. I

Ok, maybe it's just me. I was a student at Enloe High School starting in 1980-81, the second year it became a magnet school. So this article says that formal policy is going to be drafted regarding magnet schools. After 30 years, WCPSS is now going to draft some policy???? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Did I miss something?

Look in the board's

Look in the board's policies and you'll see that there is no one specific policy on magnet schools. There's a brief mention about the goals of the magnet program in the student assignment policy. But that's it. The goal would be to have a formal standalone policy. There have been a number of things over the years that have been operated in practice by the district that haven't had an official board policy. Look at all the policies recently adopted by the board for some examples.

Support--How much longer can

Support--How much longer can we afford to just do what we're doing now? Our low income and minority students are failing at alarming rates, the BOE sees nothing wrong with busing a kid 18 miles across town, the best academic opportunities are available to only certain children, etc. These things have been brought up to the BOE/WCPSS for years now and nothing is ever done. Voting in a new group of status quo BOE members will do nothing to change things.

I know that you agree with me on many of these issues. Do you really think that anything will change with Nixon, Rakestraw, Tart & Simon in there? Like I said many people, including myself, have brought up these issues to both the BOE and WCPSS several times and nothing has changed. In some ways its getting worse. As Keung reported, they are looking at reducing the number of magnets seats available to the 'last chance' lottery. WCPSS supporters worry that without the diversity policy we will have a system of 'haves' and 'have nots'. Yet that's precisely what we have now and none of you seem to care or are willing to do anything about it.

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How sad that our Board of EDUCATION discusses "fixing" schools by shuffling around the kinds of student attending. Lowering percentages, limiting and restricting, monitoring percentages, managing the odds. No talk about programs to actually assist in the education of those students. Sickening.

Time for change!

Well

What is sickening and nauseating is how many times you say the same thing over and over again and add no value.  I've heard nothing from you except to go try a much of one off potentially good and potentially failed options.  I know, 'well the current system is working so let's change it'. 

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At least my post addressed the issue at hand.  Besides your snide self-serving comments, what exactly have you added? Patting Chuck on the back doesn't count. :>)

 

Once again it's numbers.

Once again it's numbers. Wake is determined to run this freight train into the ravine.
Who is this Delaney? Does anyone know his history?

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must we?

http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_action=doc&p_docid=1102B22358E74E20&p_docnum=12&s_dlid=DL0108012303412007486&s_ecproduct=SUB-FREE&s_ecprodtype=INSTANT&s_subterm=Subscription%20until%3A%2012%2F14%2F2015%2011%3A59%20PM&s_subexpires=12%2F14%2F2015%2011%3A59%20PM&s_username=FreeAccess&s_accountid=AC0107030117170502657&s_upgradeable=no
Public face of reassignment values diversity
News & Observer, The (Raleigh, NC)
News B1
T. Keung Hui Staff Writer
Published: March 5, 2006
Want to be hated by parents and taxpayers? Then the Wake County school system has the job for you.
You get to oversee the student reassignment plan. You have to figure out how to convert schools to a year-round calendar. And you determine how many new schools have to be built in a bond issue that will raise property taxes.
It's all in a day's work for Chuck Dulaney, who recently accepted the newly created position of assistant superintendent for growth and planning.
"There aren't good schools and bad schools in Wake County like people think of in other places," Dulaney says. "That's because we have a commitment to have a district full of healthy schools that are interrelated and not isolated from each other."
It's a tough job, but keeping Wake's schools healthy is in harmony with Dulaney's lifelong goal of promoting social diversity.
"They [Dulaney and his wife, Donna Olsen] are very socially conscious," says Ellen MacMillan, past president of the Unitarian Universalist Fellowship of Raleigh, where Dulaney is a member and a past president of the congregation. "They both feel a very strong obligation to help others and live what they believe."
For Dulaney, 58, his beliefs stem from growing up in the 1950s in the Southern California town of Colton. Despite the town being half white and half Hispanic, he didn't go to school with Hispanic students until high school. To this day, Dulaney regrets not having learned Spanish.
Dulaney said his experiences in Colton convinced him that when he became a father, he'd be sure to live in a diverse community.
It helped lead him to take a job teaching kindergarten in Kansas City, Mo., which was undergoing integration in the 1970s. While there, he met and married his wife, a fellow teacher. But after seeing white flight to the suburbs dramatically impact the schools, they moved to Charlotte in 1981.
"Charlotte was known for its diverse schools," Dulaney recalls. "We wanted to raise our family there."
But over time, Dulaney and his wife became disillusioned with the Charlotte-Mecklenburg school system. Dulaney said it became clear to them that Charlotte was starting to move away from maintaining diversity, a trend that accelerated after a 1999 federal court ruling ended racial busing.
Seeing the trend taking shape, they relocated to Wake County in 1993.
"He really walks the walk and talks the talks," says Karen Banks, who was Dulaney's boss for 12 years as Wake's assistant superintendent for evaluation and research.
By then, Dulaney's beliefs had carried over to his children. Banks recalls Dulaney's son, Ben, telling of how they detected code words from a real-estate agent trying to steer them to a white neighborhood.
"Ben knew we wouldn't be interested in living in an area that had a low percentage of minorities," says Olsen, a former Wake principal who now works in the district's staff development office.
Except for a brief stint as a principal, most of Dulaney's time in Wake has been spent as a researcher.
Banks, who retired last year, says Dulaney was the consummate team player.
When things heat up
Banks recalled a time in the mid-1990s when they ran into problems scoring tests because the computers were overheating in a trailer with a malfunctioning air conditioning system. Banks and Dulaney went to Home Depot to purchase sprinklers which they used to hose down the trailer to cool it off.
Banks says Dulaney's skills as a communicator have served him well, especially in his role of explaining student test results to schools and the public.
"There are people in my field who are quite brilliant but who can't necessarily communicate with people who aren't as technically oriented," Banks says. "Chuck is the opposite. He can make things sound simple even when they're complicated."
Those communication skills caught the attention of Don Haydon, associate superintendent for auxiliary services, who recruited Dulaney last fall for the new job of overseeing growth and planning. He reports to the superintendent, and receives an annual salary of $105,944. Technically, he doesn't set policy -- that's the school board's job -- but he has considerable influence as someone who frames the key planning issues to present to the board and the public.
"It's reassuring to the board and the staff to have someone there looking at all the data and making sure the right hand knows what the left hand is doing," says Patti Head, chairwoman of the school board.
This is one of the most critical times in the district's history.
Wake is experiencing record growth, with 42,000 students expected by 2010. To fill new schools and ease crowding, administrators want to reassign 10,258 students to different schools this fall.
Critics have long complained that the district doesn't do enough long-range planning to minimize reassignment, or at least give parents more warning. Dave Duncan, president of Assignment By Choice, a group critical of Wake's assignment policies, says it's a good sign that the district has created the new position. But he says the test will be what Dulaney does with the job.
Dulaney says the district's long-range planning efforts are hampered by not getting enough money for school construction.
But it may be possible, he says, to give parents earlier notice about reassignment. For instance, he says, the district should be able next year to identify the neighborhoods likely to be assigned to the new Heritage High School in Wake Forest, scheduled to open in 2009.
Dulaney isn't backing off the district's goal of trying to limit the number of students at each school who are receiving federally subsidized lunches. It's based on research showing that all students suffer when a school has too many low-income children.
"Our district was very smart early on to recognize, before there were legal challenges, that it's not an issue of mixing students by race but by family income," Dulaney says.
Dulaney acknowledges that the district's record growth and the county's concentrations of high poverty and low poverty are complicating diversity efforts. One remedy, he says, would be for municipalities to require more mixed-used development.
"We have areas of the county where much of the population is highly affluent, and we have areas where many are living in impoverished neighborhoods," Dulaney says. "How can we address that?"
It's a job that's going to push Dulaney into the public eye and keep him away from home. It's something his wife has accepted.
"It's important to be able to explain to people why we as a community need to do something for the greater good," Olsen says.
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CHARLES "CHUCK" NELSON DULANEY
Born: Sept. 11, 1947, in San Bernardino, Calif.
Family: Wife, Donna Olsen; daughter, Kate, 24, a doctoral student at Virginia Tech University in Blacksburg, Va.; son, Ben, 23, a patent examiner for U.S. Patent Office in Alexandria, Va.; brother, Richard in Raleigh; sister, Jane Asbury in Seattle
Education: Doctorate in educational administration, University of Missouri, Kansas City, Mo., 1981; master's degree in educational research and psychology, University of Missouri, 1978; teacher's certification, California State University-San Bernardino, 1972; bachelor's degree in history and physics, Occidental College, Los Angeles, 1969.
Religious affiliation: Unitarian Universalist Fellowship of Raleigh, past congregation president
Military Service: Medic (conscientious objector), U.S. Army, 2nd General Hospital, Landstuhl, Germany, 1969 to 1971.
Career: Assistant Superintendent for growth and planning, Wake County Schools, 2006 to present; senior director for evaluation and research, 1997 to 2006; principal, Joyner Elementary School, 1996 to 1997; evaluation specialist, 1993 to 1996; director of planning services, Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools, 1989 to 1993; research specialist, 1987 to 1989; coordinator of staff development center, 1983 to 1987; teacher in Charlotte-Mecklenburg schools, 1981 to 1983; director of the Learning Exchange Teachers Center, Kansas City (Mo.) Schools, 1977 to 1980; elementary school teacher, 1972 to 1976.

Chuck Dulaney's position as Wake's assistant superintendent for growth and planning will keep him busy in 2006.
Staff Photo by Juli Leonard

Copyright 2006 by The News & Observer Pub. Co.

It looks like he would have

It looks like he would have been suited for head of Evaluation and Research when Banks retired. That is where his experience is. Instead, they hired someone with no Ph.D., little to any experience with data and gave Dulaney this job. It looks from what is here that Dulaney maybe wouldn't have pushed for calling free lunch students "at risk." Maybe that is why they got him out of the research dept and gave him what is described here as an awful job.

reinvent and reinvent and

reinvent and reinvent and reinvent....just wish the whole mess called WCPSS...would just be big enough to stand up and say..."You know, everything has gotten out of hand and we have messed up on many things." Then scrap so much of their programs, etc...and get this county back to some sort of normality?!?!?!

thanks Keung. I'll keep

thanks Keung. I'll keep trying. :-)

Magnet Marketing

The difficulty of getting in to Magnet Schools is one of the reasons why there is so much resentment for diversity.  I value diversity and want it to be maintained. Instead of limiting the program because not enough F&R students apply,  why not look at the reasons why they aren't applying and make them more attractive.  
 
I'd love to see magnets near businesses that pay lower wages.  Proximity to work probably encourages more parent involvement than proximity to home.  

" I value diversity and

" I value diversity and want it to be maintained. Instead of
limiting the program because not enough F&R students apply,  why
not look at the reasons why they aren't applying and make them more
attractive. "

I admire your sentiments.  Be aware, however, that in general, WCPSS has no interest in attracting F&R students into the magnet schools.  In fact, the faux "lottery" system they currently use makes it nearly impossible for a child from an F&R node to get into most program magnet schools.  They design the program magnet assignment areas with some low income base, and then they use the magnet programs to attract in their desired demographic --- the higher income families.

Kids from low income nodes have traditionally been the desired demographic for year round schools.  When they couldn't attract as many of them into the year round schools, kids from low income nodes became the first ones who were forced into mandatory year round.

 

 

"became the first ones who

"became the first ones who were forced into mandatory year round"

and the first ones to OPT-OUT, look at the numbers from the hand outs Hui posted....specifically the Leesville numbers and see the high percentages there that opted out of MYR.

What you are describing is

What you are describing is part of the plan that Carlene Lucas would like to implement in Wake schools.  You can find out more on her website www.carlenelucas.com.

If I remember correctly ,

If I remember correctly , when I first moved here in 1995, the Wake County diversity policy was described as "Controlled Choice."  It doesn't feel like that anymore because magnets have not expanded with growth. 

I'd love to see a neighborhood Magnet school option near low income areas.  It would offer programs that  attract and support lower income families. Some that I've heard mentioned include extended school year and/or day, and added sports and arts opportunities that low income families find prohibitively expensive. It could be similar to a community school model, but it should not be a base assignment. Neighborhood schools say "we know what's best for you, and don't want you taking space in our schools."  A choice-enrolled community school says "how can we help you support your child's education?"

My question is NOT "why do kids spend so much time on busses?"  Neighborhood schools would be a disaster destined to only offer choice to the wealthy. My question is "Why do we only design magnets to attract rich kids to poor schools?  Why not create a magnet choice that specifically supports needs of low income families?" We should be doing both!

I'm not sure I fully understand

I strongly support community schools, however, it is unclear how they could be implemented under the current assignment policy where "no school shall have >40% F&R." In order for lower income students and families to take advantage of the community school program doesn't that mean they need to be allowed to go to school in their community even if the community school would be >40% F&R rather than having them assigned and bussed to a school across town? I went to a high poverty school in a system that used a sort of community school model and innovative programs and it leads to higher achievement for low-income, a much smaller achievement gap, and upward mobility for the low-income.

Neighborhood (I prefer to call it community-based) schools become centers of the community, promote parental and community involvement, stability and allow for schools to be tailored for the needs of the community. Those in lower income areas can be partnered with community service organizations. Some in other areas of the country even have health clinics and adult education programs. Nationally, there is a movement to create successful community-based/neighborhood schools in lower income areas that use innovation to actually raise student achievement to close to education gap because that will help close the income gap. BTW - you state neighborhood schools would only offer choice to the wealthy? How so?

IMO the current leadership has shown that they are only interested in creating the image of "healthy" schools by mixing and then shuffling and remixing students rather that address actual student achievement. Their discussion of East Wake and this new magnet policy shows that. 

Their solution is to write a policy to attempt to force a change in school demographics rather than using innovative solutions to improve achievement of the students. They have already done this tactic in other areas some years ago and it back-fired (the F&R% at the school went up because the wealthy families left WCPSS). What they don't factor in is that the wealthy families have the option to simply leave the public system altogether, which solves nothing. Interestingly, they use the magnet programs to incent the wealthy ITB to go to those ITB schools, but won't offer those incentive programs to the same extent OTB, rather they try to use force.

Under the current leadership, the low-income have had no choice but to go where they've been forced to go (look at what happened with MYR and how many low-income opted out as long as WCPSS legally had to give them a traditional seat). The middle-income have been sloshed around and naturally diverse areas are punished by being banned from magnet schools.

Unless the status quo of the BOE is changed, they will simply support more of the same failures and lack of innovation. People have already brought them innovative options to actually improve achievement for low-income students, but have been ignored in favor of just bussing for socioeconomic balancing even though it does NOT help student achievement.

"Diverse" schools mean little when the classrooms are not diverse because many (some educators have said most) of the low-income are in the lower level courses (with about 1/2 on their way to dropping out) and most of the not economically disadvantaged (NED) students are in higher level courses. What really is gained?

Wake has never had

Wake has never had "controlled choice" and I've been here since '96.  In 2000 they went to bussing based on SES status.

here are some innovative ways to look at schools;

http://www.communityschools.org/
http://www.kipp.org/
http://www.capitalprep.org/

As someone

who lived a stone's throw from Wildwood Forest, was bussed to Fox Rd, then reassigned to Wildwood, where Durant students were then reassigned to Fox Rd, ALL of whom were "hostage" to our node/F&R status because we had to miss AT MINIMUM <b>THREE</b> lottery rounds before we could be considered (this was 3 years ago!) for a magnet school - yeah... the word 'broken' works. So does asinine.

 Can't say I miss the drama.

Keung--the first link

Keung--the first link doesn't work

The server containing that

The server containing that file seems to be acting up. I'm hoping it will be fixed soon.

The file should be up and

The file should be up and accessible now.

Haves and have-nots

Your ability to get into a magnet school already depends on where you live in the county; now Chuck Delaney wants to make it even harder. Basically, he wants to hold non-F&R students captive for the purpose of helping the district's misguided diversity policies.

If you look at Fox Rd.'s attendance district, it's pretty clear where the non-F&R population comes from -- the area immediately south of Durant Road. Many of the year-round students in that area are presumably going to Durant Rd. Elementary. All of this is in District 3 -- Kevin Hill's district -- which isn't up for reelection this year.

(If you want to see an example of how broken the assignment system is, just look at the attendance areas for Durant Rd. Elementary. This school should, by rights, be a neighborhood school -- it's completely surrounded by neighborhoods chock-full of elementary students. Yet, these students are bussed away so that students from around WakeMed's New Bern campus can be bussed in.)

N.Y.C. Charters Found to

N.Y.C. Charters Found to Close Gaps
The study, conducted by Stanford University researcher Caroline M. Hoxby and her co-authors Sonali Mararka and Jenny Kang, is based on eight years of data for students applying to the city’s growing number of charter schools. It finds, for instance, that attending a charter school from kindergarten to 8th grade can close the achievement gap with a similar student in the affluent suburb of Scarsdale, N.Y., by 86 percent in mathematics and 66 percent in reading. By comparison, the “Harlem-Scarsdale” gap only widens over the same span of grades for students who remain in regular public schools, according to the study.
http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2009/09/22/05charter.h29.html?tkn=OLYFq33N%2BFjk147jbm6389Vaz1MIIRVGJAba

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" his staff will be working on a formal board policy on magnet schools"

so which comes first, the BoE or Chuck??? if this is a BoE policy why does Chuck control it?

Staff drafts the policies

Staff drafts the policies that the board adopts. In this case, it looks like staff will give its recommendations and then the board will respond with any suggested changes to the drat policy.

Thanks (as if BoE has

Thanks

(as if BoE has EVER had any "good" suggested changes?) rhetorical, no need to answer :)

I do agree that it's

a drat policy :-) I know it's just a typo by Mr. Hui but it made me chuckle.

ROFL!!!  I didn't even see

ROFL!!!  I didn't even see that....nice catch ;)

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