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The WakeEd blog is devoted to discussing and answering questions about the major issues facing the Wake County school system as it prepares to undergo historic changes. Will the new school board scrap the diversity policy in favor of neighborhood schools? Will year-round schools be converted back to a traditional calendar? How will the new board respond to growth and the school construction program?
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Wake GOP attacks patriotism of school system for Memorial Day classes
The Wake GOP is continuing to fling shots over year-round schools having been in session on Memorial Day.
In a press release today, the Wake GOP says the "poor decision by a majority of the Wake County Board of Education and WCPSS demonstrates lack of patriotism and concern for parents’ needs" is what resulted in more than 13,000 students skipping school Monday.
While insisting that it's not a Democrat vs. Republican issue, Wake GOP Chairman Claude E. Pope Jr. says "it is telling that our GOP organization was the only group that decided to take a stand.” The GOP has taken flak from some for having urged parents to keep their children home from school yesterday.
The linkage to the school board elections is pretty hard not to notice. One of the PR contacts on the GOP press release is also the spokeswoman for the Take Wake Schools Back PAC.
Here's the press release:
WAKE GOP FURTHER EMPHASIZES THAT SCHOOL ON MEMORIAL DAY IS NOT A PARTISAN ISSUE, BUT AN AMERICAN ONE
Poor decision by a majority of the Wake County Board of Education and WCPSS demonstrates lack of patriotism and concern for parents’ needs – leading to more than 13,000 students staying home on Monday
RALEIGH, N.C. – As a result of the widespread attention given to the Wake County Republican Party’s call for year-round students to skip school on Memorial Day, Wake GOP Chairman Claude E. Pope, Jr. points out that it is only the bad decision of the administrators and school board majority that have made parents and students choose whether or not to attend school on an important national holiday.
“The issue of students having to go to school on Memorial Day is not a Republican vs. Democrat issue, but it is telling that our GOP organization was the only group that decided to take a stand,” said Pope. “The Wake GOP fully respects the education of our students, but students should not be forced to go to school on such an important holiday in lieu of a day given off to beat Thanksgiving traffic. Every American should be honoring the military heroes who gave their lives for our freedom on Memorial Day with their families.”
When the Wake County GOP called the WCPSS central offices to inquire about attendance figures for Memorial Day, the offices were closed. Estimated reported figures indicate that only 60 percent of students at the schools were in attendance. The Wake County GOP received numerous calls and emails from parents saying that they were keeping their children home to observe the holiday appropriately.
The Wake County Republican Party in North Carolina seeks to recruit, train, support, and elect local candidates to all municipal, school board, county, and legislative seats. The Wake County GOP focuses its mission around the key values of fiscal conservatism, personal responsibility, family and neighborhoods, and government accountability. For further information, visit www.wakegop.org.
T. Keung Hui
T. Keung Hui covers Wake schools.
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Thu, 11/12/2009 - 05:26 — jibran_pccAs a result of the widespread attention given to the Wake County Republican Party’s call for year-round students to skip school on Memorial Day, Wake GOP Chairman Claude E. Pope, Jr. points out that it is only the bad decision of the administrators and school board majority that have made parents and students choose whether or not to attend school on an important national holiday.
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Wed, 05/27/2009 - 08:56 — Big_PictureHoly Moley. Easy boy. What a turn toward bizarre creepiness.
Memorial Day Schooling
Wed, 05/27/2009 - 05:17 — calypsomanI suspect because so many parents are off from work on this day, in the interest of family activities it would have been better if WCPSS was not in-session on Memorial Day. Having said that, it is a far better way to honor our fallen military personnel by helping to ensure the next generation of leaders and military men and women get a solid grounding in academics (one more day at school helps...every day does) than simply having the day off and being less productive. I think parents who opted for the GOP way had not really thought this issue through carefully enough.
It is not just the GOP way
Wed, 05/27/2009 - 05:58 — designmanNot everything worth learning occurs in a classroom. I kept my son home from school on Memorial Day so that we could attend the event in downtown Raleigh honoring our fallen heros and the men and women who have and are serving in our armed services. This experience was far more enriching than another day at school and provided my son perspective that would be difficult to impart otherwise. To suggest that parents did not think this issue through is not true.
I did not base my decision on anything the GOP said, however I do agree with their position. Apparently a lot of famlies felt participating in an important National holiday was enough of a priority to counter the ill-conceived dictates of the Wake County schools.
Memorial day holiday
Wed, 05/27/2009 - 07:58 — calypsomanYOU obviously thought this through but I'll wager many others may not have. I am with you, there is much to be learnt from non-academic education.
My decision was made two
Wed, 05/27/2009 - 06:54 — rr77rr99My decision was made two years ago when they set this date. I didn't jump on the GOP bandwagon on Friday before.
That said, many children in my children's classrooms were not there. Not a lot of "academics" were completed.
"one more day" will make or break them academically. Helping them by educating them at home on this holiday to cherish and value the traditions of our country is something that maybe only parents are "allowed" to teach these days, and how long before being able to that will be called in to question. Oh, wait, it already has because we shouldn't have kept our kids home on Memorial Day, but rather, I should have sent them to school to watch National Geographic shows on global warming instead.
Two things are obvious about
Wed, 05/27/2009 - 05:04 — designmanTwo things are obvious about PerniciousSnid. First, he has overstepped the bounds of decorum on this site; and second, based on his nearly incomprehensible rants and personal attacks, the CaryCurmudgeon has hit a nerve and has asserted complete intellectual dominion over him.
Change is coming, PerniciousSnid, and if you in anyway represent the other side, it will be even easier to orchestrate this change than I thought.
PerniciousSnid is not who he seems Joe
Wed, 05/27/2009 - 06:11 — Voice_of_Reason_Snid's a Dem operative (80:1 odds), and playing a sick psychological game on this blog with you. It's a cheap psychological warfare trick. Think about it. Don't waste your time. (If he's a member of the GOP, he is a renegade; but I doubt he is.) You are making headway, consider it a sign of success.
Think you're both right,
Wed, 05/27/2009 - 06:44 — CaryCurmudgeonThink you're both right, that last post about "you don't know who you're up against" said a lot. Makes no nevermind, we continue to gain momentum together... new neighborhood chapters and more elected officials signing on. Just a little over four months from now all our hard work will pay off.
Mr. Hui, really?
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 20:16 — AngelaWtime to shut some of this nonsense down, the EDUCATION factor has been lost....accusations, more name calling, stalker talk? c'mon now, really....
Censorship
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 20:22 — PerniciousSnidIs that how you nonpoliticals think and act AngelaW? The minute someone actually says something worth reading, you call for an end to it? Why does the ring of truth create alarms for you?
it's like listening to the
Wed, 05/27/2009 - 06:12 — AngelaWit's like listening to the adult "voice" from Charlie Brown, "waaa, waah, waah, waah, waah."
...
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 20:37 — SideburnsThe ring of truth?
It's becoming quite comical now. Right, nonpolitical Angela?
Yeah
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 20:54 — Voice_of_Reason_Almost too comical, maybe he's a "trojan horse." I am starting to believe we've been had. Wonder if he will come out with his real name or hide behind his screen name? After all he is making out he's some big wig in the GOP.
He is not a big wig at the
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 21:59 — CaryCurmudgeonHe is not a big wig at the Republican party. And I don't believe the Republican party's leadership are the ones trying to leverage the schools change movement for party gain, I believe that is specifically Jeff Morse and his band of flunkies.
there you are
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 22:30 — PerniciousSnidWho is this Jeff Morse what has got under your skin so bad Joe? You are the one who has been called out. If you are so eager to get control of the BoE why are you focused on the small fry? If you are sincere about change, why are you and your band of pantywaists tilting at windmills? Why aren't you attacking the real power structure? Do you think you can win a battle by pulling a scale from the dragon? Where will you be when it is time to slay it? You think that by running some kind of non-partisan love fest you will unseat power? Just tell folks what you are about, really, and let them make a decision about you. You're not a bad guy, you mean well, but don't try and pretend that the War on Terror is an Overseas Contingency Operation. If you want to win, then you'll have to do something different. So far your approach has delivered bupkiss, bupkiss in the way of qualified AND funded candidates, bupkiss in the way of even mildly changing the way the BoE is doing business now, bupkiss in affecting change. You seem to be sore that the GOP got some traction out of an odd story that you've been trying to get traction on for two years? They send out one little press release and you're crying foul? Why is it that YOU are always harping on, worrying about partisan politics. Look, if you are right, then the money, the candidates, and the voters will turn out, right? The election will swing your way, right? Ah, but therein lies the rub, you do need others, dontcha? So, come out, come clean, who would you RATHER come out and support your efforts? The Dem Pary machine could sure crank out the 8 or 10 thousand votes you need, easy Joe, you know how to guarantee the outcome. Tempted? How about the other side Joe? Hm, what seems like a newly energized local party might could just do the trick too? Dilemma. At this point, the 'folks' look for leadership, or they turn away from the process. Whats it gonna be Joe? If you want to split the baby Solomon you'll only get half a baby. Pick a side and let the folks know where you stand, then they can decide whom to follow. At least with one of the political parties the folks know exactly where they stand.
" If you are so eager to
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 23:01 — CaryCurmudgeon" If you are so eager to get control of the BoE why are you focused on the small fry?"
I agree, he's small fry.
"They send out one little press release and you're crying foul?"
I didn't cry foul about the press release, I cried foul when you people tried to turn this into an issue of why we should vote repuplican instead of why we should vote for better leaders.
" Pick a side and let the folks know where you stand, then they can decide whom to follow"
I already picked my side, and it is with the citizens of Wake County. The people involved in this don't follow me, they follow their conscience.
"Just tell folks what you are about, really, and let them make a decision about you."
Folks that know me know what I'm about. You are giving them a good view of what you are really about.
"If you want to win, then you'll have to do something different."
Perhaps you are right, maybe I can borrow some of the winning strategies you used to win all those elections last year.
Your actions are truly a disappointment to me. Right now our country and state have single-party domination whch is not healthy.
Attacking people who are trying to make a positive difference won't do much to add to the Republican base and restore some balance of power.
Now it's fact
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 21:01 — Voice_of_Reason_I should of known right away.
CaryCurmudgeon is Joe Sciulla?
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 20:11 — PerniciousSnidOk, so you don't have the fortitude to register as a member of a political party, but you think you have the beebees to run a school board campaign? Dude, you need to just come out and tell the folks who and what you really are. You have no earned right to attack anyone as you have had zero effectiveness on anything related to education OR politics in Wake County, or where-ever in Yankee land you came from. Your 'sitting on the fencism' on this issue, and for remaining as an UNaffiliated registered voter is not helping anyone. Look Joe, the word is out, and you've been outed. You're no conservative, you're a sellout to the Dark side and a wanna be kingmaker, (Someone tell Margiotta he's being used) hanging around with more do-nothingers than Democrats at a Jackson dinner. Was that you I saw there at the last one Joe? Was that you I saw schmozzing with the Lefties? Making your secret little deals to make sure there wasn't any change after all on the BoE?
...
Wed, 05/27/2009 - 06:51 — SideburnsLooks like Inspector Gadget has foiled your evil plan. :>)
Jeez, at least spell it
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 22:11 — CaryCurmudgeonJeez, at least spell it right, it is C-I-U-L-L-A. And it is hard to be "outed" when one makes no secret of their identity. If you and your stormtroopers actually cared about schools and read this blog other than when you thought votes were to be had, you'd know that. Your lack of knowledge and attitude of attack make it very clear what your motives are. Fortunately, most people will see that as well.
Stan Norwalk and his status-quo bunch are laughing right now because you are making their day. We have built (and continue to build) a strong grass-roots legion of supporters of change in the school system. These people know far more about what's going on in the school system than your group will ever pick up with a drive-by blogging, and will not be swayed by a few rogue leeches who are trying to corrupt a noble cause for their own political gain.
Shoo-La
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 22:45 — PerniciousSnidLook, I've really got to get back to more interesting things, but you've got it figured out all wrong. You've been chasing shadows for so long you don't seem to be able to distinguish between fantasy and reality anymore. Stan Norwalk has nothing to do with this. He's been laughing in his hat at you and your boy Ron for months and months. You don't even seem to be able to recognize who you are actually up against. You think that your little experiment here in Wake is unnoticed by greater powers? Do you sincerely believe that your wishiwashiness on picking sides is not noticed by BOTH sides? Where does the kid go who doesn't get picked by either side? You're sounding off in an echo chamber in here man. You've been through some battles, you know hard knocks, but you're giving off the air of someone who just wants to get into a slapfight. Trust me, you are not getting into a slapfight. Having all the great inside knowledge of the school system, blah blah blah, who will go and pull a lever on Election Day? Teachers will Joe, and hundreds and hundreds of Wake County Public Schools EMPLOYEES and their families will go and vote. I wonder how powerful their motivation will be?
Finally, I don't know what 'group' you're talking about, but again it seems you are shadow boxing. I speak for myself and only myself. Call me drive by or whatever, but you have been called out!
"Teachers will Joe, and
Wed, 05/27/2009 - 07:49 — CaryCurmudgeon"Teachers will Joe, and hundreds and hundreds of Wake County Public Schools EMPLOYEES and their families will go and vote."
Thanks for the reminder. The Wake County Commissioners are holding a public meeting on 6/1 to discuss the budget. Good chance for people to speak up about spending priorities. Also, a good chance to meet the teachers who will be there protesting against the school board's consideration of eliminating 800 or more teaching positions, and to show our support.
Joe do you have any evidence
Wed, 05/27/2009 - 13:16 — chaboardJoe do you have any evidence to back up your claim that the school board is considering eliminating 800 or more teaching positions? Stan pointed out yesterday that as far as he could determine WCPSS had said absolutely nothing to that effect - all the talk and numbers were coming from NCGA. You have differing infomation?
http://www.wral.com/news/loc
Wed, 05/27/2009 - 14:28 — CaryCurmudgeonhttp://www.wral.com/news/local/story/5180828/
Excerpt: "Still, 60 percent of funding for Wake County schools comes from the
state. School board members, who have anticipated a 5 percent budget
cut, say it could end up being more because of lower-than-expected
state revenue and cuts to the state budget.
"I just don't want
citizens to get the idea that the situation is better than it is
actually," school board member Lori Millberg said. "Now, it's looking
worse than (5 percent). It could be as high as 10 percent."
Burns
said that a 5 percent budget cut would mean about 800 educators' jobs
lost. School board members have said many of the teachers whose
contracts expire at the end of the year would not be asked to return.
"If
the state funding doesn't come in, as we anticipated, then we're
looking at an even greater number of positions we won't have next
year," he said."
Don't mess with "The
Wed, 05/27/2009 - 21:25 — rr77rr99Don't mess with "The Mudge".... lol
Hello Stan, is that you?
Wed, 05/27/2009 - 07:49 — Voice_of_Reason_Maybe, maybe not. ;^).
Bomb Throwing is just Nasty!
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 22:36 — Jeff_morseJoe,
I Agree these Post by hidden Bomber are totally rude, and Crazy. I have NO ties to these what so Ever. Maybe the N& O can let us know who made these posts.
They Help No one!
For the record I have NO interest in political Gain I will Never run for a office other than my interest in Fighting for good Conservatives!
My intestes in School Board go back to when I got married and my wife and I made Raleigh Home. We have been planning a family for years and The Schools need to be fixed before I can send my future (one on the way) Children to WCPSS. This is my interest in helping to fix the WCPSS.
I will Openly Condem These Attacks Since I can sleep at night knowing that I and the GOP leadership had Zero input in these attacks.
This is a cowardly attack!!! Just another reason why Screen Names Stink they allow cowards to lurk in the dark Corners.
Well, if I have falsely
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 23:04 — CaryCurmudgeonWell, if I have falsely accused you then I apologize.
That was wrong
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 20:26 — Voice_of_Reason_It is not a big secret anyway, but that was a cheap shot. You didn't win GOP points for that. If anything you probably lost voters. I'm a Conservative Republican and I can tell you Joe's on the right side on this one. And BTW, he earned "the right" by getting involved. You sir are a discredit to the GOP and what's wrong with partisan politics.
Those that think this is funny on the other side, quit laughing...for your side is far,far worse.
GOP?
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 20:56 — PerniciousSnidHey there VoR,
Man, I sure didn't want to ruffle your feathers. You are so right. Gosh, how's that been working out for you Conservative Republicans so far? What races locally have you won lately, especially with guys like this UNafiliated friend of yours? What made you think I'm trying to win GOP points? I'm calling out the man behind the green curtain and you're saying I'm a discredit to the GOP? Non sequitor my reasonable voiced friend. If you think there is anyone reading this stuff that is going to make a difference come election day, you are wasting your time on here. Maybe you haven't been on this blogging posting medium thing for very long, (other than perhaps listening in this echo chamber of horrors) but this place is not where new votes are found, OR lost. Gosh, you do sound almost reasonable when I picture you without the aluminum ears. ;-)
Nice of you to stick up for the ol yankee
Sheesh
Wed, 05/27/2009 - 09:25 — SDR256Gawd, who peed in this guy's cheerios? I mean, we're all passionate and we all spill over into ranting once in awhile, but this seems like a good ad for Xanax to me.
Viciousness doesn't help our kids get a better education - - well, it may teach them what NOT to do.
Bingo, my gut was correct, a "Trojan Horse"
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 21:36 — Voice_of_Reason_But really picture me high in the air with a different kind of "hat", one with a microphone telling a bomber that it's OK to drop a bomb. One that had life and death decisions, decisions with deadly consequences to make. Or picture me taking a blood oath to defend our constitution against all enemies, an oath I still have to uphold.
Also picture someone that loaths partison games on any side.
BTW- Keep thinking this blog has no teeth, you're here aren't you. I think you know better.
P.S. And in case you didn't see, I already had you figured out before you responded. Check the times.
Truth Is Stranger Than Fiction
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 19:31 — NoNewGunControlI have a wife who teaches in Wake County, and a daughter who teaches in a neighboring county. Don't sweat the unexcused absences. They mean nothing....just like suspensions mean nothing. Children in Wake County are allowed to make up the work and are not penalized for unexcused absences and they are not failed for missing school or refusal to perform work or for failing tests....no matter what you've been told or what you believe. At the middle school where my wife teaches, they have never allowed a teacher to fail a student or hold a single student back since we moved here at least, and teachers who have been here longer than we have back that up. It's a gold mine for "No Child Left Behind".....a haven for super liberal thinking and promoting "self esteem" over requiring students to achieve. Until we moved here, I would have called you a liar or a nut case if you had told me this. It would have never happened when I was a student. The ones who refuse to study, refuse to behave, regularly fight with other students, regularly receive ISS, are severe discipline problems and are regularly tossed out of class for disrupting class or disrespecting staff...still pass every year right along with the honor students. They just promote them and send them on up the line to become someone elses problem next year and society's problem in the future. They have learned that they don't really have to earn anything or learn anything, so the indifferent, the slackers and the gangbangers take advantage of it. The administration and the BoE pretty much let just about anything slide, when they can. It's designed to make Wake County appear to be the best of the best in the public school system. It's all smoke and mirrors and pretty much a free ride for the future losers of America. If you don't believe any of this, never mind...you don't have to but you've been advised...... I've done my part, and we don't have any kids in school anymore, but if we did, they would absolutely, positively be home schooled and the public school system could pack sand..
Unfortuately, it was predictable.
Wed, 05/27/2009 - 06:15 — designmanMemorial Day was a microcosm of the disconnect that exists between Wake County schools and parents. Well meaning parents make a perfectly reasonable decision (letting kids participate in a National holiday) that runs contrary to Wake County dictates; instead of acknowledging a mistake was made, Wake County marks students as unexcused and, in some cases, dishes out punishment.
As if we need more reasons to make a change in October...
Year Round Students/Memorial Day Observance
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 18:58 — dgdickenI am a retired US Air Force veteran, my son goes to a year round school. I found that it was important for him to observe the Federal Holiday that Congress enacted to memorialize the brave men and women who gave the ultimate sacrifice for their country. Even at 9 years old, my son understands the importance that this day brings to the hearts and minds of all the generations living in the US today. I am proud that my son knows this, it is sad that "teachers and administrators" of the WCPSS don't understand this. Perhaps a 3rd grader can teach the teacher once in a while.
Teachers give double homework and test today...
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 15:48 — merlemacWe also kept our child home yesterday, explaining that their are times when we need to make a stand for something that is important. We (as a family) participated in a Memorial Service, honoring our fallen heroes especially those in our own family. This morning I sent in a "request of absence for educational purposes" and explained that we chose to spend Memorial Day in a more respectful way, together as a family. (Even describing the Memorial Service). My child's teacher proceeded to give those children that did not attend school yesterday, a double amount of homework and a test today, while those students that DID attend class were given a review to prepare and our students were not. She even stated to those students that did not come to class that "you all have an unexcused absence, so therefore you will have double the amount of work to do"!
She should be fired!
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 19:07 — g88ky07How about that!
Board Policy and R&P 6000
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 18:03 — shank56"This morning I sent in a "request of absence for educational purposes"
E.
An absence may be excused in advance for educational reasons. The parent must complete the form #1710 "Request for Excused Absence for Educational Reasons." By signing the document, the parent assures the school that the absence meets the requirements of the law for excused absences. The law provides principals with the latitude to determine when the cumulative effects of such absences are of such duration as to interfere with the education of the student.
This teacher chose to toe the line and follow BOE policy. Have you never read the Student/Parent Handbook that is given to you and posted online regarding absences and family trips or experiences? My schools/ principals have always required at least a 3-5 day notification for the "educational purpose" excuse.
Given the publicity of this day, many parents may have missed the boat.
Board Policy and Missing the boat..
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 20:02 — merlemacYes, Shank56, I have read and reread the Student/Parent Handbook regarding the timeline for requesting an excused absence. I also read the article titled "Mass Absences.. and took the suggestion from that, that in light of the unusual circumstances that the principals would grant the absence excused "retroactively".
At least we were trying to be honest and did not make up something just to get the excused absence.
We did not miss the boat, we just left behind those who were not brave enough to get on.
Kudos to you for being
Wed, 05/27/2009 - 07:54 — shank56Kudos to you for being honest...not "my child was home sick today."
The teacher in question must be a middle school teacher or an upper elementary teacher. While showing a bit of a 'tude, the teacher was within her/his rights for those without an excused absence.
Imagine if you are a student who did attend the entire day, knowing other friends are off at the beach , the pool, etc. Looks like this teacher was not going to "punish" these students by holding them back from an instructional day.
That woman gives
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 16:27 — PinkSlipThat woman gives understanding teachers a bad name. Sorry to hear that is what you are dealing with. Perhaps she has a terminating contract and is bitter, so the students are the unfortunate recipients of her anger.
OH GOSH!!! You have one
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 16:17 — dryeraseuserOH GOSH!!! You have one mean bitter teacher there! I am a teacher and I would have NEVER done a thing like that. See teachers like that give the rest of us such a bad name. I am so sorry about that. I would do all that homework and more and then turn it in. I would show that teacher!!!
Wow
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 15:58 — Chris_HWhat school was this at? Somebody was not happy she had to work on Memorial Day!
Wow
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 15:58 — Chris_HWhat school was this at? Somebody was not happy she had to work on Memorial Day!
If you attended a Memorial
Tue, 05/26/2009 - 17:19 — rr77rr99If you attended a Memorial Day serivce, you can ask for an educational excuse form and have the day excused as an educational experience.
As for that teacher, if it's elmentary school, heck even middle school, they are not going to hold your kids back a grade for not turning in "double homework" or not passing a test so I would not worry abou the work at all.
I would report that teacher to the principal. How is that "fair" and "equal" treatment of all students? I'd make a federal case out of that considering the teacher flat out told the kids she was basically "punishing" them for something they had no control over. It was the PARENTS who made the decision for the children. What were your kids supposed to do? Disobey their parents?
Yeah, hopefully that teacher is on their way out. Bit bitterlately?