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Wake County single-sex leadership academies drawing demographically diverse enrollments

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It looks like fears that Wake County's two new single-sex leadership academies would become predominantly African-American schools have turned out to be unfounded.

Figures released last week by the district show that white students are projected to have a plurality at both leadership academies. Critics of the academies had raised concerns that Wake's schools are modeled on two largely black single-sex schools in Guilford County.

Wake's data shows that the Wake Young Men's Leadership Academy's enrollment is projected to be 42 percent white, 27 percent black, 13 percent Asian and 11 percent Hispanic. The school will also have 43 percent of its students receiving federally subsidized lunches.

The demographics are similar for the Wake Young Women's Leadership Academy, where it's projected to be 40 percent white, 35 percent black, 15 percent Hispanic and 6 percent Asian. The school is also projected to have 33 percent of its students receiving subsidized lunches.

After the idea was first proposed in September, critics focused on the two Guilford County schools that Wake had visited.

A September press release from the Coalition of Concerned Citizens for African American Children notes that "the new academies are modeled after two Guilford  County schools that are also segregated by race."

A December memorandum from the CCCAAC and several other groups details the demographics of the two Guilford County schools, which are located on the campuses of historically black colleges and universities.

"This racial and socio-economic isolation — and the well-documented impacts such isolation has on access to resources, educational outcomes, and the stigma of exclusion — has been ignored," the memo says of the Guilford schools. "Once again, WCPSS seems determined to pursue another new education policy without adequate research, analysis, disclosure, or community input. In fact, with regard to these proposed programs, the only thing the community can be certain of is the board’s refusal to prioritize or adequately consider racial or socioeconomic diversity."

Wake County Superintendent Tony Tata has repeatedly said that the two leadership academies would be representative of the district's demographics.

Back when they were first approved, the critics had also questioned the level of interest in the community for the programs.

But Wake's data shows that the women's academy placed 150 out of 563 applicants. For the men's academy, 150 out of 283 applicants were placed.

Tata pointed to the high number of applications during his Friday press conference. He said he knew there was going to be high demand based on what he heard during his listening tour right after he started last year.

"When you looked at the demand rate, it was actually higher than some of our most storied magnet schools," Tata said Friday. "It was over three to one demand for these seats, and there was not a historical legacy like we see with some of our magnet schools  So on a concept and a program, parents actually demanded it because that's what they've been asking for."

One of the goals of the academies, which will allow students to graduate high school with two years of college credit, was to have 50 percent of the students be first-time college graduates in their families.

Wake is closer to the goal at the women's school where between 44 and 48 percent of the students fit the bill. At the men's school it ranges as high as 49 percent for the rising sixth-graders to as low as 27 percent for the rising freshmen.

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Two years of college credit

One of the goals of the academies, which will allow students to graduate high school with two years of college credit,

Could someone elaborate on this ?  My daughter is working towards graduating college in 3.5 years through a combination of AP class credit and taking summer classes at State.  She goes to great lengths to make sure she can get credit for the classes she takes at State. I cannot imagine someone graduating from a leadership academy can be admitted as a rising junior at he majority of colleges and universities across the country. 

 

 

 
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college credit

According to the WCPSS website, the students will finish the majority of their high school courses by the end of their sophomore year and then start taking college courses in their junior year (up to four per semester). If they are on the block, and taking no electives, it would be possible to take almost all of the high school courses in two years. I guess that's why they wanted the schools on Peace's campus, because they were going to take their college courses at Peace with the other Peace students. Sounds like an intense program of study.

Yet apparently the Peace

Yet apparently the Peace faculty had not been consulted nor informed that they would be delivering this intense program of study to high school as well as their college students. Nor had the tuition-paying college students and their parents been told of this experiment. We must really pay attention to what is going on there before we put our public school students, and our tax dollars, there.

good thing

Well, I guess it is a good thing that Peace pulled out of the negotations then.

Interesting

Other than being single sex, it seems to be somewhat like Wake Early College of Health and Sciences.  With a pool of 146,000 students I can see where a few hundred families would be interested.  I wonder what the main selling point is - single sex or the possibility of 60 hours (which is a bit more embellished in the press release than what the wcpss website says).  

Articulation agreements

This isn't my area of expertise but, from my years of teaching in the UNC system, there are articulation agreements between many of the NC community colleges (where the academy students often enroll) and at least some of the UNC system universities.  If the academy students are taking regular college classes, those will be accepted by the UNC system school.  I'm not sure what happens if the student wants to enroll at a university outside of North Carolina.  I know my nephew took math classes in Virginia at his local community college while he was in high school and those classes were accepted by Virginia Tech.  I don't know if Tech would have accepted math classes from a North Carolina community college. 

north carolina community college

Actually, there are now agreements in place between all UNC system schools and all NC community colleges. It is possible to take the first two years of standard general education requirements at a community college and UNC system schools will automatically accept the credits. It is a great option especially for kids who can't afford to pay UNC system tuition, but can afford the much cheaper community college tuition charges. They will save a lot of money. Some of the universities are actually pushing for students to do this as a way for them to cut their own costs (less freshmen and sophomores, means fewer courses the college has to offer).

As far as outside the state, most schools will accept community college credit as long as the transcript shows that the class has a similar course description as the one the student is seeking to exempt taking. So, Calculus 1 is pretty much Calculus 1 everywhere, and if the student can prove that their Calculus 1 from Wake Tech meets the requirements set forth in College X's course catalog for Calculus 1, the school should accept the credits. 

I don't know how it works,

I don't know how it works, but I do know that my cousin who graduated last year from an IB high school, had the opportunity to enter as a junior.  She had enough credits from her IB courses but I have no idea if that is normal. 

IB High school

Hmm,  colleague's kid went to Broughton and graduated from the IB program, yet is doing his 4 years at Wake Forest. 

Did he pass the tests? 

Did he pass the tests?  Maybe it's like AP courses where the credit you get depends upon the score you get. 

Is your colleague's kid choosing to do all 4 years?  I would think that at the very least he should be able to get 1 or 2 semesters worth of credit.  Another cousin of mine did AP courses in high school and is graduating this year from U of Michigan after only 3 years.  She did an internship one summer but otherwise no summer school that I know of.

all depends

The amount of college credit one can get for IB and AP courses varies widely from school to school, and the amount each college will give for a specific score also varies widely. A 4 on AP Bio might get a kid 6 hours of credit at one school, and nothing from another or 3 hours of elective credit from a third school, or some other alternative. Also, the specific major can make a difference. Some majors, like music for instance, have very high number of required courses, almost none of which can be fulfillfed through AP or IB credit, whereas a history major might be able to use a lot more of those credits.

could we take one minute and say

thank you to Mr Tata for addressing a request from parents of different policital groups.

why the backhanded comment about magnets

I would be very worried as a magnet school parent with the comments about magnet schools that mr. tata made.  Why does he have to put down magnet schools and application volumes there when praising his new school?  Seems to me that whenever they get around to a real policy on magnet, special programs like STEM and these leadership schools, and choice in general that magnets may go away as we know them.

Magnets going away "as we

Magnets going away "as we know them" would be a very positive step for this school system.  Magnets may still have a niche role to play in WCPSS, but the necessity of their existance has changed dramatically and, therefore, the means and purpose for which they are used should change as well.

welcome the discussion

would welcome the school board and school system to have that conversation sooner than later.   Right now "special programs" are being in lieu of what magnets used to be used for to make certain schools more attractive.   It seems like there is no policy on special programs and magnets so it would be good to know the exact policy that is guiding the school system now.    It would have made sense to have that discussion before passing the new assignment policy but wouldn't want to add logic to the assignment chaos. 

totally agree

This should have been done prior to putting together the choice plan.  They should have looked at the distribution of the special programs across the county as well as spend some time in te community to find out why some schools are underchosen. 

"to find out why some

"to find out why some schools are underchosen."

And therein lies the greatest bi-product of the choice model.  Rosa Gill and Del Burns could tell us all day long that there are no bad schools in WCPSS but know/knew the truth.... Under a choice model, there is no hiding that there just may be some bad schools in WCPSS.  Now that we can/have to acknowledge that, we can start the discussion that was never allowed to occur in the past, "What are we going to do about it!?"

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there were few surprises

The list of schools that are undersubscribed contained few surprises.  They were the same schools people opted out of in the past plus the addition of a few because of feeder pattern issues.  We all know there are many reasons a school can become unpopular.  I don't see that this plan provided any additional information.  If anything it probably made the situation worse at some schools.

"Knowing" and

"Knowing" and "acknowledging" are two different things.  How did the choice plan make the schools less desirable, exactly?

The previous...

comment said that undesirable schools have remained undesirable. And that the choice process did not really provide any additional info - so you can't really claim that this is "market forces" at work.

Of course market forces are

Of course market forces are at work.  They were at work before and continue to be after the implementation of the choice policy.  That's how you knew the schools were "undesirable" before!  However, the previous policy allowed WCPSS to ignore and suppress the fact that "undesirable" schools did exist in WCPSS and allowed them to pass the buck on doing something about it.  Now, the "undersirable" schools are front and center and in plain view and must be address by WCPSS because they're not just the parent's and student's problem anymore, their WCPSS's problem.

What is your issue with "market forces" anyway?  Are you a communist?  Serious question...

Market Forces

And I thought people just wanted to go closer to home, It has been common knowledge that a proximity model would result in a number of schools with not enough capacity and others under enrolled.  So now we will spend millions of  $ for schools to market themselves.  Parents please select my under enrolled school - pretty please.

Or they could just close them down

Or forget about their next bond.

Serious answer....

Sounds like you have no idea what "market forces" are or for that matter what a "market" is. Take an econ 101 class and come back to argue.

What a loser. Does not know how to present argument - calls opponent communist or hitler.

Not that this is worth

Not that this is worth responding to but PULEASE!  You've clearly established your ignorance of capitalism time and again here.  Who said anything about Hitler?

I didn't call you a communist, just asked if you were one.  You're always arguing against free market solutions...

...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

Market forces and communism

Market forces and communism are polar opposites.

Logic and politics are

Logic and politics are opposing forces.  Magnets are about as hot a political potato in WCPSS as race, Social Security and Medicare.  Most are scared to even mention it.

Interesting...

It would be interesting to compare the demographics of the students admitted to the demographics of the applicant pool to see if they differed. It would also be interesting to compare the reading and math proficiencies for the applicant pool, the accepted pool, and the system at large.

100% agree - transparency

It also feels like something was missing on purpose in that they didn't include that information to start with.    While it is "interesting" that there is a diverse admitted population, what was the diversity of the applying population.  

Indeed....

That would show us if there was any social engineering going on.

The "fears" of the

The "fears" of the "diversity first, at any cost" crowd are "unfounded"?  That can't possibly be true! 

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T. Keung Hui covers Wake schools.
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