Should the Wake County school system move now to offset a $2.1 million cut in school instructional supplies or hold off to see if the money is needed to deal with other budget cuts?
As a quick refresher, the budget proposal adopted May 1 by the school board calls for cutting instructional supplies by $13.96 per student. That covers things like paper and pencils. With some board members balking at approving the budget, staff said they'd look for ways to mitigate the cuts.
The proposal presented by staff at Tuesday's board work session is to give schools an additional $2.1 million for supplies in this fiscal year. The cut for the 2012-13 fiscal year would still occur but this infusion of money would offset it.
Staff would find the money by dipping into the pot that would ultimately be used for the 2012-13 budget fund balance. This would give Wake $2.1 million less to put into fund balance.
With Wake already dipping into the $33 million fund balance for $28 million for this fall, Chief Business Officer Neter said the additional money to cover instructional supplies would increase the hole they're working under for the 2013-14 budget.
School board member John Tedesco said that since they're considering restoring the instructional supplies, he's also "open" to dipping into reserves for $2 million to restore cuts made last year to cleaning services. Neter said they'll evaluate the situation next year to see what they can do with the cleaning situation.
School board chairman Kevin Hill said it would be "prudent" to hold off on the cleaning issue until they see what they're getting for state funding. He said that the supply issue trumps the cleaning issue from his perspective.
School board member Jim Martin asked what the advantage would be to giving the money to schools this fiscal year instead of the next one. Neter said it would allow schools, particularly year-round schools, to "get out of the gates" for the next school year.
School board member Susan Evan said it may be 'premature" to take the money for the instructional supplies when they don't know how much of the $8.8 million increase will be approved by commissioners.
"So we not need to be protecting all of our fund balance till we see how we're going to have to react to cover our budget," Evans said.
Neter called it a "managed risk."
"We believe it’s the appropriate thing to do for our schools at this point," Neter said.
Evans said she's concerned they might need to dip into fund balance more to make up for not getting $8.8 million. If that happens, Neter said it's more likely they would recommend cuts first.
Hill said he's hoping that the commissioners will see that the school board is being 'prudent" in trying not to cut instructional supplies.
"It's impacting the classroom in terms of providing supplies for our students and teachers so I would hope that the commissioners would not think we're being less than frugal." Hill said.
Tedesco said he agreed with Evans that it may be prudent to hold off on spending the money for the supplies. If they get less than an $8.8 million increase and have to make cuts, Tedesco said they may decide other things are more valuable to fund than the instructional supplies.
Neter said that staff has for some time been working on what-if scenarios should the state cut more or less than expected and if the commissioners do or don't give the $8.8 million.
Based on these scenarios, Neter said they believe they can still move forward with the additional money for the supplies even if the worst happens with the state and county.
School board member Deborah Prickett said she had to agree with Evans since they're unsure of what the commissioners will do.
"I have to say I think she’s right on this one," Prickett said of Evans. "I feel comfortable in her judgment.”
"Let me write this down," Hill quipped.
Martin said they need to push ahead with asking for the $8.8 million and restoring the instructional supplies.
“It’s pitiful what we actually supply to our classrooms," Martin said.
Martin said it doesn't make sense to back off on the pressure on the commissioners. He said they need to communicate that it would be "irresponsible" for commissioners not to give $8.8 million more because that would lead to a drop in local per-pupil spending.
Evans said she had just been raising the implications of what would happen by using the money for supplies. She says she has faith in Neter and his department.
"If he's (Neter) sitting here telling me that he has scenarios that can make this work either way then I have to show my vote of confidence to the staff and I would not stand in the way of this if everyone else feels like it's appropriate," Evans said.
Responding to Martin, Tedesco said the district "would be better served to have a little money in the bank to be looking at to cover our hides, so to speak."
"At the end of the day we're going to get an answer," Tedesco said. "If that answer is no, I would hope we're prepared to deal with that $8 million loss plus an additional potential loss. And quite frankly, I’d feel more comfortable if I know we’ve got a little more change in the bank at that time."
The board ended the discussion with no final decision on the issue.

Comments
Not WCPSS Funded
Thu, 05/17/2012 - 15:41 — mommy59Elementary folders should not be filled with PTA, private enterprise and non-profit propaganda. -These papers are not paid for by the school.PTA if any thing ends up donating supplies to the schools just so they have enough to keep an office going.
Some of the material raises
Thu, 05/17/2012 - 18:50 — bouncing_rockSome of the material raises funds for the PTA. I say we start looking at sending ads, etc. in the folders to tide over the depleting funds issue.
amen
Fri, 05/18/2012 - 09:46 — EBDarcyIf schools did not have to rely on the PTA to provide so many essentials you could eliminate a lot of the fundraising info coming home in the student's folders. But PTA's are trying to make up the slack, particularly in the cuts to classroom supplies.
?
Thu, 05/17/2012 - 16:05 — Bob_SconceHow are those related? If, say, the school puts material about YMCA summer camps into students folders, the material comes from the YMCA -- the school isn't printing it out itself.
Pencils, Notebooks, Paper
Thu, 05/17/2012 - 14:20 — elangleySeriously, restrictions need to be made to cover essentials. And essentials need to be funded - PAPER for class. Calculus students should not have to solve problems on half-sheets of paper printed in size 8 font. Elementary folders should not be filled with PTA, private enterprise and non-profit propaganda. Classrooms do not need every inch of wall space covered with colorful print-outs. Well paid, high character teachers, challenging textbooks, paper and pencils. Wake County has funded more than enough to educate out students well.
Now make some good decisions on hiring, curriculum and standards!
more than pencil and papers
Thu, 05/17/2012 - 14:29 — turnerk1There are more essentials than just paper. Art classes need art supplies. Science classes need supplies for experiments. The biology students at Enloe don't do dissections any more because they can't afford to buy the frogs, even when they shared four people per frog. The supply budget for the entire biology department at Enloe for this year was $600--for about 1,000 students. At some point the supply budget can get so paltry that it effects the outcome for the student. I think the system will have consider the dreaded teacher lay-offs to make sure the supply budget stays somewhere close to what is needed. A slightly larger biology class that actually gets to do experiments, to me, is better than a smaller class that has to learn by watching youtube videos.
$600 for 1000 students?
Thu, 05/17/2012 - 18:57 — bouncing_rock$600 for 1000 students? Looks like the "spread the wealth" battle cry will yield a few frog molecules per student across WCPSS. Guess we are set for molecular biology. Let's work on the pianos next.
I was shocked too
Thu, 05/17/2012 - 19:45 — turnerk1I was shocked this year when I went to the Open House and was told the supply budget. Both my kids took biology classes this year and the teachers were literally passing a hat around begging for money. I overheard one teacher apologetically explaining that they wouldn't be doing any of the experiments and labs the parent was asking about because the supplies were just too expensive.
The secret riches
Thu, 05/17/2012 - 22:24 — Solon77Now you know the secret of the riches at Enloe. Have you had to buy literature books for your kids yet ?
Of course
Thu, 05/17/2012 - 23:01 — turnerk1Fortunately, the younger one read about half the books the older one did in 9th grade, so we didn't have to buy all her books, but between the two of them I probably spent $50-$75.
Maybe Jim Martin could fund the frogs
Thu, 05/17/2012 - 15:55 — FSandYOUAfter he funds all the additional transportation he's demanding.
That's really not a bad
Thu, 05/17/2012 - 16:01 — shearertwThat's really not a bad idea...we could just shift the money from the NC State chemistry department budget by reducing the faculty by 1. That would pay for a lot of frogs.
Fabulous idea. We can elect
Thu, 05/17/2012 - 18:46 — bouncing_rockFabulous idea. We can elect BOE members by the number of frogs they can contribute.
In this last election
Thu, 05/17/2012 - 19:57 — FSandYOUwe elected them by how many croaks they could put out.
So you may be onto something!
Thanks for the
Thu, 05/17/2012 - 20:51 — bouncing_rockThanks for the clarification. Was confused a tad with all the leapfrogging-to-higher-office attempts.
Good points!
Thu, 05/17/2012 - 14:40 — elangleyArt and biology studies are important.
absolutely critical
Thu, 05/17/2012 - 15:35 — JSBinNCabsolutely critical points... science, art, music, etc.
as far as PTA - we supply our own paper, office supplies, stamps, etc - we don't use school supplies. Not sure if they are all like that - but we pay for our own.
I don't think photocopier
Thu, 05/17/2012 - 18:48 — bouncing_rockI don't think photocopier toner is covered by PTA. There might be other examples, more so at schools with poorly funded PTAs.