Should the Wake County school board open meetings with a prayer?
Email records indicate that the Republican board members are more receptive to the idea of having prayer to open meetings. Democratic board member Jim Martin, who was sworn in on the U.S. Constitution instead of a Bible, cautioned against the idea.
The conversations started when school board member Debra Goldman emailed the board and board attorney Ann Majestic on Jan. 19 asking what Wake's policies were in relation to prayer at meetings.
Goldman included a copy of an email she received from the North Carolina School Boards Association. The email included a memo from Allison Schafer, NCSBA's legal counsel, saying that federal courts have ruled againt sectarian prayers but upheld the use of nonsectarian prayers that "solemnize the legislative task and seek to unite rather than divide."
Schafer's memo encourages school board to review their local policies and practices to see if they comply with the Joyner V. Forsyth County prayer ruling made by the U.S. Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals.
Majestic replied that Wake has not had a prayer to start meetings in the many years that Tharrington Smith has represented the school board.
Goldman replied back that "maybe it is time to start."
"Agree!" wrote board member John Tedesco in his reply to Goldman's response to Majestic. "A little prayer may actually help us."
Tedesco's emails include the Biblical verses of Proverbs 3:5-6 which say "Trust in the LORD with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make your paths straight."
"Wonderful idea..." added board member Chris Malone in his email to Tedesco's response.
"I pray for y'all every day," wrote board member Christine Kushner in her email to Malone's response. "Hope everyone has a lovely weekend."
Martin takes a different view in his response.
"I encourage us to heed the Christian scripture Matt 6:5-8," Martin writes. "And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, they have their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think they shall be heard for their much speaking. Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of before ye ask him."
"I suspect other sacred texts have similar admonitions," Martin closes.
That drew a response from Malone to Martin.
"Jim I am not sure I understand the motivating implication to your aforementioned "admonitions"?" Malone writes. "Are you suggesting people should shut themselves away from the world to pray and those that pray in public, be it at football games, commencement and graduation events as well as before political board meetings are hypocrites? Let us know."
Malone includes a postscript in which he writes that "George Washington oft times referred in public as well as his letters to the guiding hand of the
providential hand of our creator in the making of this great country, and how we needed to stay in his good staid. A great reason to pray if you ask me..."
Click here to read the emails referenced in the post.

Comments
JT is just positioning...
Fri, 03/16/2012 - 09:34 — bpuli9999for the soon to come statement that God told him to run for the state superindent position. Wonder how long that will take.
Selectively following the Bible is the greatest weapon of all.
Is this the same Debra Goldman?
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:56 — tartexanIs this the same Debra Goldman who bragged to her husband in court records concerning their divorce about all of her affairs? I hope she is doing lots of praying at home and asking for forgiveness.
No...
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 19:50 — Bob_SconceShe did not brag about anything in court filings.
This was on this blog
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 21:05 — tartexanSteven Goldman also claims in a filing that Debra Goldman caused him emotional distress by telling him that she had committed multiple acts of adultery and intended to commit more
?
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 22:14 — Bob_SconceWhat do you mean by 'also'? I know his filings wree on the blog; I'm not aware that she confirmed those accusations in her own filings, which is what the OP was asserting.
...
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 21:47 — SideburnsAre you hopeful? Or just being creepy?
Or both...
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 22:32 — starsonoursOr both...
I think they need to
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 15:13 — MariagerwinI think they need to concentrate their efforts on education.
I also think a few prayers headed their direction would not be such a bad idea. Maybe a few will get through. ehhhhhhh maybe.
LOVE Christine Kushner's
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 14:37 — jeannie84LOVE Christine Kushner's response!
Perfect
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 16:32 — EBDarcyKushner's response was perfect.
She's not the only one. I bet there are a whole lot of people praying this group gets their act together soon.
I Agree!
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 17:41 — JanisTangoI agree....this is just a distraction. They need to focus on much more important things than this.
All the republicans...
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:48 — bpuli9999who are trying to get elected to other offices suddenly seem to have found this deficiency? Are republicans so stupid as to vote for them on this basis?
stop the silly politics
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:48 — EBDarcyHow dumb does Goldman think we are that we can't see thru this?
Politics, Politics
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 11:28 — shank56And why wasn't this important to Goldman when Ron was at the helm and she was in chair number 2?
Like they say on Saturday Night Live -REALLY ?!
Prayer? Now? Really???
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 11:14 — ThatDadEvery sane person in Wake Co should vote for Goldman for whatever it is she's running for. Get this nut as far from the WC BOE as humanly possible!!!!!!
This may be the best example yet of a pol "taking their eyes off the ball". And nothing like a little pile-on-pandering by her fellow candidates CM and JT...
Another distraction
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 10:29 — Athey01...just what this BOE needs. Why not recite the Pledge of Allegiance and sing the "Star Spangled Banner" or....just focus on student achievement...or better yet...stop emailing each other.
"stop emailing each
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 14:35 — jeannie84"stop emailing each other"
Amen!
True, very true.
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:31 — jenmanor better yet...stop emailing each other.
Thanks for the laugh!
Oh good grief...
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 10:28 — Bob_SconceI've never liked the idea getting rid of prayer at meetings where it's longstanding tradition. But, adding a non-sectarian prayer to an existing meeting is just stirring up a hornet's nest for the small benefit of getting a watered-down "offensive to nobody" public prayer:
Dear Diety or Dieities, if you exist (and if you don't then we invoke the spirit of nature or, if nature doesn't actually have a spirit, then we invoke whatever spirit(s) happen to be around), please help us to have a good meeting and not to necessarily do what you want us to do because we don't want to offend anybody. And, please help Jim Martin not to be such a prig. But, we really really want to be polite to each other, so if you exist, we hope that you'd help us do that, but only if you exist and actually have the power to do so. And if there are more than one of you, please decide it among yourselves and get back to us. Amen.
A much better idea would be for a group of school board members to voluntarily get together informally before the meeting to pray to the God they actually believe in about things that matter.
Amen...
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:46 — bpuli9999The word amen is a declaration of affirmation found in the Hebrew Bible and New Testament. And therefore, not as sectarian as the rest of your prayer.
Yeah...
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 12:56 — Bob_SconceI know. I was thinking about just ending it "Peace, Yo," but thought that it'd be funny to juxtapose a blatently absurd invocation with a traditional ending.
Amen to that
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 10:42 — jgegbgmgBob - You have hit the nail on the head - A prayer session among members prior to the meeting is exactly the way to go - I think it would be good for Goldman & Malone to pray together since they seem to want the same thing (higher office).
Blech.
Thu, 03/15/2012 - 10:09 — jenmanBlech.