It's not an understatement to say that internal Wake County school board emails showed a lot of suspicion in regard to how the student assignment plan review process has played out.
On the Democratic side, you have board member Jim Martin expressing suspicion that staff was trying to discourage them from changing the plan. On the Republican side, you have several board members expressing suspicion that the Democrats were moving to delay the plan.
You have Democratic school board chairman Kevin Hill trying to reassure both sides.
Let's start with a Dec. 14 email from Hill to Superintendent Tony Tata and the board asking for time at the Dec. 20 work session to discuss the assignment plan. Hill also asks that an action item on the plan be added to the Dec. 20 regular board meeting.
But the next day on Dec. 15, Hill sends an email message to the board saying they're not going to deal with the plan on Dec. 20.
"We made the decision not to add a work session item or action item looking at student assignment, feeling we would not have adequate time for discussion," Hill writes. "We did schedule a single item work session for the afternoon of January 3, 2012."
In a Dec. 15 message, Martin asks Hill "Are you confident that delaying any discussion to January 3 is not an effort to get even further down the road of 'we can't turn back.''
"The more I am forced into a situation where my hands are tied, the more
likely I will resist," Martin adds. "I do not like the way addressing this assignment plan is turning into a game of Russian Roulette.
The longer we put things off, the more likely swords will need to be fallen on. Which is a horrible way to conduct business, and is destructive for kids and all who work at the schools."
"I am . . . And we do need to chat . . . I'm trying to build some bridges here ("Getting Past No!")," Hill responds to Martin in a email message later that day.
The decision to hold a Jan. 3 work session just on student assignment leads to a variety of questions and complaints from the Republican board members. Here are some examples:
In a Dec. 22 message that board member Chris Malone sent to Goldman and copied to the whole board and Tata, Malone writes that "My other concern is that this issue will hang on and be discussed ad nauseum with the intent to dely the plan from implementation."
"This sure looks like delay on the assignment plan to me," board member Deborah Prickett responds to Malone in a Dec. 22 message that was copied to the full board and Tata. "Is the one item work session serving as a facade (or micro managing?) to look like hard work just for show to the public?"
In another Dec. 22 message, Goldman questions why the Jan. 3 meeting was scheduled for the main board room when work sessions are usually held in the board conference room.
"This one item agenda session is sounding more and more like playing to the press and party propaganda, than an actual worksession," Goldman writes.
The Jan. 3 meeting was moved to the conference room.
In a Dec. 26 message, Goldman writes that "I find it disturbing that there is even a thought to change anything about this previously adopted plan, at way PAST the last minute." The message was addressed to Malone and copied to the board and Tata.
"I'm flabbergasted that this Board majority would even consider putting this entire county into a state of upheaval again!" Goldman adds.
In a Dec. 29 message to the whole board and Tata, Goldman levels a number of charges at Hill, including accusing him of violating the board's trust. She accuses Hill of having waited until he was out of town during winter break to schedule Michael Alves to speak at the Jan. 3 meeting. (Alves didn't speak at the meeting.)
"It is being made clear that there is clearly a hidden, alternative agenda, than a "face to face, round table, board only work session and discussion" here," Goldman writes.
In his Dec. 30 message replying to the whole board and Tata, Hill tells Goldman to "stop jumping to conclusions and making assumptions, and then taking aim." He adds it's "news to me" that Alves would be presenting.
"So in the future before you crucify me, please simply be professional enough to ask," Hill writes.
The Jan. 3 work session didn't sit well with Martin, who expressed his frustrations in a Jan. 5 message replying to one sent by Rhonda Curtright. Martin only copied the message to the other four Democratic board members.
"I am quite frustrated that to date I have largely sensed "official' resistance to actually taking action on systemic matters," Martin writes. "The only exception being an 'offer' of adding a simplistic solution of set-asides. This 'offer,' as presented so far, sadly increases the risk of increased conflict with portrayal as a 'quota' system.
Action seems to be taken only when enough people are vocal about a particular niche issue, which is leading to a band-aid approach to plan modification. This is what gets every plan or practice in trouble...pocket-analysis instead of systems thinking.
I truly hope we can get past what feels to me like a 'sales job' on this plan, and actually have those working on the plan recognize some of the systemic challenges and actually do something about it instead of only suggesting there are tweaks that can be done in the future."
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Comments
Starting new
Fri, 03/02/2012 - 11:43 — shearertwStarting new thread....
Sam,
In truth, I'm really not happy with the plan. I think the plan still allows the BOE to manipulate "choice" and engineer assignments as they see fit. I'd prefer people just go to the closest school with an open seat OR implement some type of voucher system that allows people even more choice and freedom. In those cases, people are free to choose where they live or choose where they go to school, assuming they are willing to do what it takes to get there. Don't give me all the "issues" with the poor b/c we can't create an entire system that only cators to poor people. I really prefer not to go down that argument today so let's just leave it there, please.
Unfortunately, this is the plan we have for now (and it is better than forced busing). The only way to make it better is to let in go into effect and they start making adjustments over time. Some of you (and others) concerns are probably valid and will be a problem. Some of them are just hype and will not be a big issue at all. We'll not know which are or are not until the plan is up and running for a little while. People's choices and behaviors will adjust to it as well over time. I get that you are not happy with the plan and it sucks for all who have to deal with that for the next few years. Keep in my, however, that there were many many people getting screwed by the previous plan (most ED students among them). My advice to you is to keep yelling, keep screaming, keep complaining and I will too. Over time, perhaps we'll make a "more perfect" assignment policy, but we'll never have a perfect one. There's a reason the founders included a means to amend the Constitution afterall.
Did you participate in round 1?
Fri, 03/02/2012 - 07:32 — NWake_ParentSam, I am in a similar situation to you with a rising 5th grader, currently attending a traditional opt-out, whom I want to go to Wakefield M and H. If you participated in the first round there were 20 openings for Wakefield Elementary and only 5 or 6 first choice requests. I requested one of these slots and will be guaranteed WMS and WHS as a result. If you didn't do it in round 1, consider it for round 2. Much easier than fighting Kevin and the system :-)
Nobody wants to hear the Dem's whine
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 21:42 — occum_sharpeabout the plan. They could have stopped it any time they wanted. They just didn't have the guts and they still don't. They will try to divorce themselves from the plan once parents start flipping out in a week or so, but when you have a 5-4 majority, you are responsible for ANYTHING that happens. Don't blame Tata or staff or the Republicans.
so
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 22:13 — EBDarcySo in your view they are damned either way. If they stopped it you'd be screaming. If they don't you'll blame them for all the unintended (and intended) outcomes.
No you're confused
Fri, 03/02/2012 - 20:16 — occum_sharpeIf they stopped it I'd be ecstatic! I'm all for stopping it. The only thing worse than courageous Republican majority we did have is the cowardly Democrat majority we have now.
That's part of the fun of
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 23:04 — loriacThat's part of the fun of being the majority.
Along with 17K a year
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 23:04 — FSandYOUand a luncheon or two.
And lets see who takes
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 21:47 — starsonoursAnd lets see who takes credit for it when it is a success...Success has a thousand fathers and failure is a bastard.
What a contrast from Margiotta to Hill
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 21:18 — festusMargiotta shoves votes down the throats of the four minority members of the board and encourages sniping and humiliation of the superintendent.
Hill bends over backward to placate the new supe and the four minority members of the board.
While I wish Hill would have allowed more discussion of this plan, his civility and generosity to the minority members is exactly why we reelected him and why we replaced Margiotta.
It looks to me like Kevin is
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 18:48 — tartexanIt looks to me like Kevin is allowing the plan to move forward and it is Supt. Tata's plan and he will get the praise or the scorn depending on the outcome.
I don't consider this to be
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 20:39 — jenmanI don't consider this to be Tata's plan. It's basically the Chamber/WEP/Alves plan. The Chamber has been putting the pressure on the board members to back this.
Tata, staff, all 9 board members, the Chamber and WEP all share the responsibility for the failure or success of this plan.
Wait--which nine? Surely not
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 21:19 — festusWait--which nine? Surely not the last nine, only some of whom supported this plan. And surely not all of this nine, several of whom were elected partially by opponents of this plan. Right? Or are we re-writing history?
If they don't support the
Fri, 03/02/2012 - 10:33 — jenmanIf they don't support the plan, then they need to fight against it. Saying you don't like it but not trying to stop it means that you can't throw your hands up afterwards and say "I told you it was bad. Don't blame me!"
Kevin et al are the majority now. If they wanted to stop the plan or change it significantly, they've had since Dec to do so. They have the votes to do it. For whatever reason, they decided not to stop it. Now they must own that decision. I appreciate the difficult position they are in. If they had stopped it there are a whole new set of problems they'd have to deal with. If they don't stop it and it tanks, they've got to deal with that aftermath.
As part of the school board, they all have to take responsibility for the board's actions, and more importantly, they all have to deal with the results of those actions. If the plan tanks (which I hope does not happen), then it is the responsibility of all 9 to roll up their sleeves and figure out what changes to make. No bickering, just get in there and make things better. That needs to be their public face on all of this. They can harbor all the resentments they want on their own time.
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Thu, 03/01/2012 - 19:02 — SideburnsAnd Kev has no ownership? Good grief -- to think we re-elected this man.
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Thu, 03/01/2012 - 14:26 — SideburnsKev's seemed to have changed his tune. Vote against a plan and then stop it from being delayed? I wonder whose thumb he is under. My guess is the Chamber.
(BTW, don't mistake that for a backbone, Bob.)
Thanks
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 21:41 — Solon77Thanks for continuing to remind us that you just don't get it. Are you thinking that Kevin should behave like Ron ? If you don't get your way to just bury your head in the sand. While Kevin's view is in the minority he does seem to be doing his best to support the majority something you would never see Ron do.
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Thu, 03/01/2012 - 22:23 — SideburnsKev is the most political player of the game. You can keep pretending he's not -- if it makes you feel better.
of course plan should be delayed...
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 13:38 — sam123456This plan should be delayed by a year so that the full impact can be determined. Right now we have, at a minimum, increased transportation costs, feeder patterns causing children to be bused further away, parent groups influencing (i.e., Millbrook), siblings being split, neighborhoods being split, confusion for incoming families, and the list goes on. This must be delayed so that the impact can be determined and fully understood.
Just for you information,
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 14:22 — shearertwJust for you information, impact of the previous diverstiy busing policy was NEVER studied. In was in place for 2 decades and the cost, impact on performance, confusion for incoming families, distance bused, and on and on was NEVER evaluated. New assignments were made under that policy every year without a comprehensive study to evaluate those things. This plan has (in my opinion) already been delayed a year thanks to Burns, the NAACP and the whiney divesity is everything bunch. You will NEVER know the full impact of any plan until it is in place. There will always be some unknowns with a change like this. Folks like you are simply being overdramatic because you only want to stay with the previous failed assignment policy which was NEVER studied.
Remember this goody?
"But Lori Millberg, chairwoman of the student achievement committee, said there are so many variables trying to compare the students that it wouldn't be "statistically valid." Furthermore, she said she knows that Wake's policy works.
"I've been at these [high poverty] schools," said Millberg, whose children have attended schools in Eastern Wake. "The stress on the teachers, the stress on the schools. I don't need any further study to see if our diversity policy is working."
Board member Beverley Clark said they can't just think about how the diversity policy impacts individual students."
http://blogs.newsobserver.com/wakeed/not-backing-a-diversity-study
Study the plan
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 14:29 — sam123456I agree that the previous plan was never studied -- but I never said that it was. My statement was in regard to our new "choice" plan. Why should we just say that since the diversity plan wasn't fully studied that we should simply jump into this one simply because Tata says that it is a good plan. We need not to repeat the mistakes of the past. In this case we should delay a year so that we fully understand the impact. Currently there are many issues and holes with the plan that going forward with it now would not be prudent.
It sounds like you missed an important piece of info
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 16:05 — FSandYOURound One ended last week. This plan is a done deal.
This board had a chance to stop it, but this board, and especially your board rep, said no thank you. They decided a handful of unhappy parents is business as usual and since so many more want the plan than do not this board said onward.
Your continued march to stop this plan is a bigger waste of time than people posting their opinions on this "zedo" and "netflix" controlled website.
The new plan has been
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 14:40 — shearertwThe new plan has been studied, for a year! That's how you know there are some holes in it! The reason that there are so many issues and holes in the plan is because it was a major compromise! It wasn't "neighborhood schools" and it wasn't "forced busing". Compromises are always messy. The good news is that the plan is a big step towards more choice and freedom. It ain’t perfect, but it’s also not a dictatorship any longer with a subgroup of super-privileged getting choice and stability with the majority getting squat! We have been in one big tangled mess for 2 decades. Do you actually believe that ANY policy would be able to untangle that mess perfectly in one go-round? Really?
no it hasn't
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 15:41 — EBDarcyThe plan didn't exist a year ago. And the current version was only made public a couple months ago.
The plan was in the works,
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 17:05 — shearertwThe plan was in the works, in discussion, etc...That's how we got to the plan/version that exist today. Do you think someone just threw-up the plan overnight 2 months ago?!
Is it better to just jump without knowing???
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 15:05 — sam123456I don't think that we should just jump into this "choice" plan without understanding the full implications. No organization or business would ever do that. Doing that will cause major disruptions for our children, families, schools, and the community. We have the opportunity to this the right way -- why do we need to rush into it with blinders on? The time to be rational is now...and the only rational thing to do is to delay for a year and fully understand the implications and corresponding mitigation plans.
Umm...if a business wasn't
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 15:39 — shearertwUmm...if a business wasn't working, it would NEVER take 2 years to change course. It wouldn't continue to be a business if it did. Gov'ts are the only organizations that can take so long to change when they're not working. Meanwhile, we're 2 more years from moving forward. Businesses often change course without knowing the full impact. Its called making difficult decisions. This is why Tata is the perfect man for the job because he knows when something isn't working, you have to try something else and you can't wait until every possible thing is understood completely. That's how you end up dead in Tata's former job. Tata also knows that you can always adjust course AFTER a decision is made and new data comes rolling in. That's how you move the ball forward, that's how you get things DONE!
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Thu, 03/01/2012 - 15:17 — Bob_SconceWhat additional information would you like? Recall that it has to be knowable BEFORE you find out what everybody's choices are.
long list
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 15:27 — sam123456Transportation costs, magnet impacts, real availability at schools, overall cost impact, school health impact, etc, etc. Any thorough business plan would have these types of answers! We need more time to understand the impact
Didn't Tata Say...
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 16:05 — JanisTango2. Costs of New Plan. Regarding the costs of the plan, we have laid those out many times and can lay them out again. Software ($110k), communications (absorbed internally), transportation (5-25 buses), and reinforcement of underchosen schools/regional choice schools (~$1m). At most, the new plan will cost under $2m, as we have stated many times before. As a reminder, the 5-25 buses are built into the new plan as a cost of ensuring stability through grandfathering. As students matriculate out, the need for those buses will decline. We know of no other costs.
I believe he answered the question that keeps coming up!
You believe that answer??? Really???
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 17:09 — sam123456Come on now -- we know that is an inaccurate answer and that many costs are being hidden. As an example to say that only 5-25 additional buses are needed is absurd at best...it will probably take 3 additional buses in my neighborhood alone to support all of the "choice" options.
Did you know that a few
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 17:21 — shearertwDid you know that a few years ago, there were a more that 1 million possible different combinations of options you order on a Ford 150? Did Ford have to make 1 million different Ford 150's? No. Some combinations were more popular than others. Recently, Ford decided to make "packages" of options that were the most popular greatly simplifying their manufacturing lines.
Once the plan is in place, clear preferences will be established based on where people live. The bus routes will be adjusted to accomodate as necessary. I'm assuming a bus can travel through more than one neighborhood on a route, can it not?
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Thu, 03/01/2012 - 17:12 — SideburnsOh.... It's not that the information hasn't been provided -- it's that you don't believe the information that's been provided. That's different than what you've been saying. So, there's really no point debating you on the issue.
Excuse me
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 17:28 — sam123456So I think data is wrong and don't believe it -- therefore you believe "there's really no point debating you on the issue". That doesn't make any sense from an argument standpoint especially when in a democracy it is important for citizens to trust but verify. As an example, taking the one answer that only 5-25 additional buses county wide will be needed please explain to me how that can be remotely possible. With all of the choice and various combinations of choices within neighborhoods it is clear that more buses will be needed. If that is not the case would someone explain???
So...
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 20:09 — Bob_SconceRecall that most students are just going to be going to their feeder schools. Yes, it's possible for a neighborhood to have 5 buses running through it, but how likely is that?
Yes, in the absolute worst case, that 25 number may be too low. But, that worst case is really degenerate and is extremely unlikely to happen.
Do you think there aren't
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 17:36 — shearertwDo you think there aren't already "extra" buses in the system to accomodate the former forced busing policy? I think if we were going from neighborhood school model to a choice model you'd be correct but we're not. We're going from a "transportation model" to a "choice model". I'm betting the WCPSS already has more buses than an average system.
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Thu, 03/01/2012 - 17:33 — SideburnsWhich data is wrong? And how do you know?
which data is right?
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 18:42 — sam123456which data is right? and how do we as a community know without a complete analysis?
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Thu, 03/01/2012 - 18:53 — SideburnsWell, we all know you're complaining so dramatically because your child is now in a feeder pattern that assigns her/him to a school you don't want them to go to. Unless that's fixed, all the data will be wrong to you. Just like GSIW, you'll keep complaining about something until you get what you want.
I hope, at the very least, you participated in the Round 1 choice process.
Not the full case
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 21:58 — sam123456Sideburns -- Yes, the Brassfield sudden feeder switch is yet another issue -- that is an example of Millbrook parents having undue influence with Tata. Couple that with all of the other issues and lack of a thorough analysis clearly points to the fact that this plan needs to be delayed. Moving forward would be completely irresponsible.
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Thu, 03/01/2012 - 22:17 — SideburnsI think you're mixing up jenman's explanation of Millbrook parents' influence. She said it was with Hill -- not Tata.
Didn't you vote for Hill?
Millbrook influence well known
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 22:20 — sam123456Trust me, the influence of Millbrook parents is well known beyond jenman's explanation.
The Millbrook Parents...
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 23:24 — JanisTangoHad influence years ago to get nodes moved to their school.
Please don't make it sound like this is new and Tata is somehow being dishonest. When Burns, Dulaney and Hill were doing assignments years ago, we were moved to Millbrook in the draft because the Millbrook PTA requested our nodes. Maybe you need a history lesson on reassignments. I sympathize with your situation, but parents have been dealing with these types of issues for years. There is never going to be a plan that satisfies everyone! Stability is a step in the right direction.
janistango...please
Fri, 03/02/2012 - 10:15 — sam123456Please don't suggest that I need a history lesson in reassignments...I can assure you that I don't need a history lesson on reassignments as I have been living with them for years.
This "choice" model is absurd as it has note been completly thought through. In reference to stability whose stability are you referring to? Certainly, there are numerous families that are being uprooted in this plan!
Sam, Do you seriously
Fri, 03/02/2012 - 10:38 — shearertwSam,
Do you seriously believe its possible to implement a "new", more logical, proximity based assignment plan that no longer buses kids 10 plus miles for "diversity" that would not involve changing some current assignments? I think you are failing to see the big picture. Yes, you and I and all the other parents with kids in WCPSS right now are going to have to deal with a little pain right now. There's no other way to do it. However, in the long run, as long as the Dems don't screw it up, there is an opportunity to create a better and more stable system in the future. This is not the much different that social security. We know it is broken. Somebody’s generation is going to have to take the hit. Somebody is going to have to retire at 66 or 67 or perhaps even 70. It's unfortunate for us in the system now but if we give it 3-4 years we actually may get some benefit from the change. In the long run, the generation coming after us well definitely be better off. That's 1000X better than failing kids and families with the failed diversity busing policy for 2 decades. I don't think sacrificing a few years now to fix that atrocity is too much to ask.
shearetw, disagree
Fri, 03/02/2012 - 11:07 — sam123456I am suggesting that we stop for a year and make sure that we fully understand the implications of this new plan -- what is wrong with that?
You wrote that "I am failing to see the big picture"...seriously? Just because I disagree with the your approach and highlight issues with the plan, some how I am failing to see the "big" picture?? The big picture is that we are rushing this plan forward with no idea of the implications -- that is wrong and irresponsible. If we do that we will fail our children and will create a worse mess than we have now.
What is your alternative?
Fri, 03/02/2012 - 11:11 — Bob_SconceSchool starts in 4 months. Estimated 3000+ more students. What do you want to happen?
(Please start a new thread. This one too skinny.)
We should abandon ship
Fri, 03/02/2012 - 12:04 — FSandYOUand let Sam, and the 14 others who aren't happy, sit down with Brannon, Barber and the other guilty plea dealers and study it for 5 years. Then they can come back to us with their revised plan then.
Until that time I suggest we park all the buses, close all the schools and just debate the same ole bunk over and over and over and over and over and over and over.
Toothpick?
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Thu, 03/01/2012 - 23:25 — JanisTango....
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Thu, 03/01/2012 - 22:33 — SideburnsHmmm.... Just last week your posts seemed to indicate that info from jenman was new to you. I'm starting to get the impression that you're just making stuff up.
believe what you want
Thu, 03/01/2012 - 22:39 — sam123456obvioulsy we have different opinions about this plan. i doubt that we will ever agree or find middle ground.
Not making up anything -- it is very obvious what is going on here and it is very apparent that Millbrook parents had undue influence on Tata. Additionally, You and many others on this blog got what thet wanted with the 'choice' plan and anyone that brings different opinions, facts, etc gets slammed.