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Wake County school board members argue over what's to blame for bus problems

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There were plenty of apologies and recriminations coming from Wake County school board members on Tuesday over the bus problems.

As noted in today's article, Superintendent Tony Tata and board members apologized to parents and students for the problems last week. But also amid the apologies, the new Democratic board members worked to distance themselves from the problems, blaming staff for telling them they could implement the new transportation plan.

In addition, the choice plan was also a target of the new Democratic board members.

Democratic board member Christine Kushner said she wanted "to apologize for the bus debacle." Kushner called for an independent transportation audit, saying this year's bus problems "were like no other" year she's seen in her 13 years as a school parent.

Kushner also took aim at the prior Republican school board majority. She pointed to how Wake's state transportation efficiency rating had dropped since 2009.

“So what happened in 2009?" Kushner said, "The prior board started picking apart student assignment plans, making them less efficient. They vilified busing despite the fact more than half of our students take the bus to school to get to school.

Yet busing was made a scapegoat. But in truth, our previous system was less costly and more efficient than the post-2009 changes.

The prior board cut more then $4 million from big yellow school bus transportation. Then they added a countywide choice plan, a choice plan that from the start would require more busing. I can’t get the chorus of ‘Big Yellow Taxi’ out of my head. You don’t know what you've got ‘till it’s gone.

I hope the community now clearly sees why the current board has directed the staff to move to an address-based assignment plan. The problems of base assignments are less severe, more easily fixable and less costly than under this experiment with countywide choice."

Kushner noted how they started this school year about 100 buses behind from  taking 52 buses off the road to not adding another 50 buses to keep up with growth and to accommodate the choice plan under the old three-tier system.

"We were advised in the spring by staff that the routing system would make this work and we did rely on the superintendent and the staff’s recommendation," Kushner said. "But here comes the complication. The countywide choice plan has created non-contiguous spot assignments throughout the county.

In the closing weeks of registration, schools were full and new students were assigned further and further out. Hundreds of non-contiguous assignments are now scattered throughout the county, adding significant time to bus routes, breaking up neighborhoods and helping create the inefficiencies that we saw last week.

Continuing the countywide choice plan would worsen these problems. Wake County is too big for countywide choice. We don’t have the buses. We don’t have enough space in schools.

We can’t fix what’s broken about the seemingly seductive idea of countywide choice. What this experiment has done is exposed, in my mind, the pressure points on the system on transportation, on programs, but especially on capacity. We need more efficient base assignments with more contiguous assignments.”

Staff acknowledged how the late registrants were sent to further schools than the people who participated in round one of the choice process as being one of the factors that caused the bus problems.

Kushner also pointed to the new board majority's adoption of the student assignment directive in June.

"I'm thankful that in June this board took the courageous step to recognize that a choice plan has critical design flaws," Kushner said. "The staff is creating a hybrid plan with address-based assignments and expanded choice.”

Kushner also blamed the choice plan for creating the long registration lines at Central Office that have caused parents to wait five hours or more and miss a day of work. She said that will disappear when families can go to their base school to register under the new assignment plan.

"Base assignments are not red," Kushner said. "They are not blue. They are not partisan. They are logical and cost effective and we need to be objective of where we are with our school system."

Kushner also said that Superintendent Tony Tata has experience in logistics and "will lead the work to solve the problem."

Democratic board member Susan Evans said she was apologizing "with a heavy heart."

“I want the public to know that when I agreed to allow the staff to implement this new bus routing system in the spring, I did so based on relying on the expertise of the superintendent and the director of transportation and other staff who assured us that this would be feasible and would only increase route times by a few minutes," Evans said. "Based on all of the feedback I've received, and a review of selected bus routes that I have done myself, it is clear to me that the staff did not use realistic estimates of ride time or realistic estimates of numbers of bus riders for each route.”

Evans called the bus problems "the largest operational failure in the Wake County school system” she's observed in 32 years.

Evans also apologized for the long lines caused by the new plan moving registration from base schools to Central Office. She called it “one of many undesirable lessons learned from our experiment with the controlled choice assignment model.”

Republican school board member John Tedesco, like his Democratic colleagues, also apologized to families. But he took exception to the remarks made by Kushner blaming the choice plan on the bus problems.
 
“There were some comments that I would have to disagree with from some of my colleagues," Tedesco said. "While I certainly agree that this was unacceptable, I commend and appreciate our staff for taking action, putting buses back on the road and moving in the right direction. I do think it’s a bit disingenuous for folks to highlight the challenges that are specific to one issue, as specific to an assignment issue.

You heard that the state efficiency rating came into play and where our efficiency rating ranks in comparison to that. Our staff was very clear to us, and if you look at the state formula for rating efficiency, it’s not based on anything we did since 2009. It’s based on what other districts did across the system.

The way the state efficiency rating works, it’s a comparison rating that compares us against other districts in the system who are looking towards us, making changes, making adjustments to their district. They became more efficient. They got more kids on their bus. They got more stops on their routes and we didn't compete and compare with that anymore and thus the state dropped our rating in contrast because of that. So that’s where some of our adjustments had to be made.

It’s not right. It’s not acceptable. We’re working on it. I think it’s a failure on the way the state efficiency rating is figured out."

Tedesco also took aim at Evans' remark about it being the largest operational failure in Wake in the last 32 years.

“I also think the suggestion that this is the biggest debacle in 32 years is either seriously disingenuous or blind to the fact that we've had multiple issues over the last 32 years, particularly in the issue of transportation where millions and millions of dollars were lost in scandal in the last decade, or when we had mandatory year-round assignments that went to the Supreme Court of North Carolina," Tedesco said. "I think there were many issues that we’ve had to deal with in this district.

And our staff, I commend them for handling this issue in a manner that is responsible and working hard for the families of this county.”

During his board members comments at the start of the meeting, Democratic board member Jim Martin apologized while saying “I believe what happened was completely preventable.”

Martin, like Kushner, called for an external transportation audit.

Martin said the problems were preventable because, back when the bell schedules were adopted in the spring, he said he had asked how much additional mileage would be added by the choice plan. Martin said he's since found out the choice plan increased bus mileage by 20 percent.

"How we could have 4,000 extra students, 20 percent additional miles and still think we could remove 50 buses from the fleet?" Martin said. "That’s not math that I understand. I don’t think that’s in the common core.”

Martin also said that the bus problems experienced when year-round schools opened in July should have been a warning about last week's problems with the traditional-calendar schools.

“We had warning," Martin said about the year-round problems. "Why didn't’t we heed it?”

During public comment, speakers from the Great Schools in Wake Coalition also blamed the bus problems on the choice plan while criticizing the former board majority and Tata.

Former board member Beverley Clark pointed back to the January paper released by Great Schools warning about the problems with the choice plan. Clark said the former majority didn't take the time to study the choice plan and consider the consequences of its implementation.

“The bus disasters of the last week are directly related to the inefficiency of the choice plan," Clark said. "You can’t fix the bus problem without fixing the choice problem. I commend the five of you who voted in June to find a better way.

I caution you not to accept mere window dressing on the choice plan. And I ask you, can you trust the same inexperienced staff that created the current fiasco be trusted to lead our system out of this mess?”

Patty Williams of Great Schools said they have “a failing assignment plan” and “a failing transportation system.”

“How long should we let this go on before we let the superintendent and the staff that he has hired answer to the board and answer to the citizens of Wake County?” Williams said.

Williams also took aim at an argument made earlier in the meeting by GOP board member Deborah Prickett who said part of the problems were caused by staff''s desire to provide stability by allowing grandfathering. Staff has previously said that allowing grandfathering increased the number of routes that need to be served.

But Williams said that the bus problems would have been worse this year if they hadn't allowed grandfathering.

During staff's presentation on the bus situation, GOP board member Debra Goldman said she wanted to respond to the "inexperienced staff" comment. She asked Don Haydon, chief facilities and operations officer, to note how long he and Bob Snidemiller, senior director for transportation, have worked in Wake.

Tedesco also responded to the criticism of staff and the choice plan during the end of staff's update on the bus situation.

“Board members and guests were making comments who are using this opportunity to, dare I say, make political potshots at our superintendent, at our staff and saying ‘Mr. Tata’s choice plan, inexperienced staff,’ and things like this," Tedesco said.

What I heard though from our explanation tonight was that one of the more nominal impacts was from the assignment issue. Most of it was efficiency rating, recruitment, all kinds of things and I reject the idea that it’s Mr. Tata’s choice plan.

This is our choice plan. We’re a board. We chose it. We accepted it. We made that decision. Now some of you came on after the fact and I know we’re working on making adjustments and changes to that point. But the board accepted that with a bipartisan way and moved in that direction.

Ninety percent of the decisions that were made in terms of transportation this year: new bell schedules, timelines, buses off the road on the timeline you showed were with this board. We have to own some of this stuff, not just deflect it on the staff, not just deflect in how we present it to the community.

And I would respect the chairman’s earlier comments to us in email that we do learn to work together and communicate with one voice on these things. I respect many decisions that were voted upon that I may not agree with. But once that happens, I recognize that we speak with one unified voice as a board, and I would encourage our board members not to use this opportunity for political potshots on issues that we don’t like or on our staff and to use this as an opportunity to come together and work on solving this issue for our families."

“John, if you want to speak with one voice, then make sure you speak with our voice on occasion," responded Martin.

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Too cool for school

My wife and I predicted the bus fiasco and started driving our elementary and MS age kids every day beginning the first day of school -- as soon as we heard MS and ES students would be on the same bus it was an easy decision.  I don't know why anyone would trust the government with transportation.  The school board and school district don't really know what they are doing, and all the plans they come up with (reassignments, MYR, choice) are all quite silly and have proven ineffective.  Let's face it, Wake doesn't have the brainpower to run its school system well.  The county seems to favor gimmicks and fads over substance.    

Tata is owning the problem, as he should.  I hope behind the scenes he's dealing with  those who should be held responsible.  Commend in public, criticize in private, right?  That's a sound leadership trait.  

And now, in a couple weeks, we get to find out what the next big mistake will be when we hear about yet another "new" plan.  Personally, I can't wait to find out how the current crop of incompetents wants to screw things up.  

Any chance that Cary starts its own school system?   That would be fantastic. 

Question - why are people so

Question - why are people so against middle school and elementary school kids riding on the same bus?  I have seen that posted numerous times by different people - what's the deal?  My ES kids have been and continue to ride on busses with MS and it's never, ever been a problem.  The MS kids are so good to them!

Just a guess

Most parents prefer their 2nd & 3rd graders not possibly be subjected to being sexualized and/or bullied by a 7th or 8th grader?

I think you are pretty

I think you are pretty dramatic. This has never been an issue in our world.

You must suffer from Short Attention Span Theater

Seems to me not too long ago you must've missed the story about the older boy pulling down the panties of a very young girl on a bus and having his way with her.

Of course you missed it, it's like many things around here, buried to never be heard from again.

That doesn't mean it's not a

That doesn't mean it's not a real concern.

I've heard the same thing from other people.

People say alot of things,

People say alot of things, but that's ridiculous. When I was going to school there where 1st graders through high school students riding on the same bus wihtout incident. The world hasn't changed so much that that is not possibile anymore or that is is somehow dangerous. IF it has, then we have way more problems than transportation.

When I was going to school

When I was going to school high school kids were driving the buses....times change.

I agree.  I have kids in MS

I agree.  I have kids in MS and ES and think it would be great if they rode together.  When my younger kids are anywhere with MS age kids (and they are frequently at church, track out camp, sports, after school activities, etc.) the older kids are always so good to them.  It would have been possible had they just moved the ES start time half hour earlier instead of an hour later this year.  

yep, totally agree with

yep, totally agree with you.  Are there some cases that the bus is crazy?  Probably here and there. 

Don't forget previous years

Although every year there are bus issues as the routes get workd out, there has been nothing like this year, ever.  So don't generalize from this year and claim that WCPSS staff are inept.  They have made some really bad decisions this year - and yes, Tata and his leadership team (lots of new folks there) should own this mess - but staff have done a terrific job in the past.   You must not have lived in Wake for very long or have been very informed about its history.  Wake has been widely recognized (in the past) for top notch staff who run the district extremely efficiently (multiple audits by Republicans and others have confirmed this for years).  Let's give credit to what they had built before Tata and co started mucking around. Sure there were problems, but they're getting worse fast under the old board and Tata's leadership. 

I've been here long enough

I've been here long enough to learn the county is seriously challenged with respect to how to run its school system. And I've been here long enough to experience poor bus service before this year. We are free to disagree about the competence level of WCPSS staff. I've also been here long enough to know that I would never, ever let some of my younger ES age children ride with some of the MS kids from our neighborhood on the same bus. (I disagree with the parenting philosophy, or rather, the lack of parenting, that seems to characterize the homes these kids come from. Doesnt mean they won't grow up to be fine members of society, but right now they are delinquents.) Besides, by driving my kids to school I'm leaving more room for your kids (or someone's kids) on the bus -- be glad!

I will note that the

I will note that the only sexual assault that I am aware of that took place on a school bus in the last several years occurred on an ES bus, where a 4th grader assaulted a kindergarten student.

But I also believe that there is a possibility that WCPSS does not report on all incidents.

Yes, multiple audits have

Yes, multiple audits have shown the administration to be lean, but I don't think the term "efficient" has ever been used to describe the transportation department. In the past, dozens of routes contained less than 10 kids. Even the average ridership on buses ranged in the 24-28 range, on buses that have the capacity to transport 66 kids at the ES level.

Amen Satch!

Amen Satch!

I don't know why anyone

I don't know why anyone would trust the government with transportation.

Here's one reason (from WCPSS Department of Transportation):

 
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Read more here: http://blogs.newsobserver.com/comment/reply/50379/269523#storylink=cpy

...every year, about 800 school-age children are killed in motor vehicle crashes during normal school travel hours (weekday mornings and afternoons during school months) accounting for about 14 percent of the 5,600 child deaths that occur on the nation's roadways. Of these 800 deaths, only about 2 percent are school-bus related, while 74 percent occur in private passenger vehicles and 22 percent are the result of pedestrian or bicycle accidents.

Thanks, but I will always

Thanks, but I will always trust my driving over that of a school bus driver who barely makes minimum wage and can hardly read the traffic signs, much less remember a bus route. But I also accept the fact that traffic accidents happen, often with tragic consequences. Does that article say what it means to be "school bus related"? And does it state how many cars are being driven vs. how many buses? Just curious (but not so curious to look it up myself). And is there anything in those number for buses that require students to sit on the floor in the aisles, like in Wake?

I'm afraid I don't have the

I'm afraid I don't have the answers to your questions. But I will note that the number of cars and buses is not meaninful from a statistical viewpoint. All that really matters is the number of kids. About 53% of school children ride buses, so statistically speaking, you're much safer in a school bus than you are in a car.

But I get your apprehension. It's similar to those that have a fear of flying, even though your chances of being killed or injured are much greater in a car than in a plane.

First question...Do you ever

First question...Do you ever sleep or are you traveling abroad?

My little bus riding story:

When I was in MS, my bus driver, whose name was "Freeze", decided to take a dirt road on a rainy day and thought it would be fun to "fish-tail" the bus while driving down the dirt road.  It was a lot of fun until he lost control and the bus slide into the ditch and rolled on it's side.  Some bumps and bruises but no serious injuries.  I sprained my ankle a little because it got caught under a seat.  Some parent's came an picked their kids up from the scene of the accident and took them home.  The school system also sent another bus to pick of the rest of us whose parent's, like mine, still seemed to think riding the school bus was a good idea.  My parents also put me on the bus the next morning.  I'm not sure if that says more about what my parents thought about riding the bus or more about what they thought about me?  It was probably more that both my parents were working and didn't have a lot of other options.

LOL. My circadian rhythm has

LOL. My circadian rhythm has been severely messed up for a decade. I sleep when I'm tired. Fortunately, my work allows for it.

Imagine if your story occurred today. How man lawsuits do you think there would be?

I sleep when I'm tire

I sleep when I'm tire too....I just happen to be tired from 11 pm until 6am.

The bus driver was fired (and most of us kids weren't happy about it).  He was replaced with my brother's friend's older brother who was a senior in HS.  He parked the bus in a field next to my house so I was always the "first" and the "last" stop (when I actually got off the bus at my house).  Half the time, I'd get off the bus at friends house or at a swamp we often played in.  It was a different time.

from WakeEd Partnership

 

Bus breakdown:

"We were too aggressive"

 

In response to an unprecedented series of busing errors affecting thousands of families, the school district's top leaders apologized repeatedly this week and promised to keep adding new routes until all student transportation problems have been resolved.

 

"While apologies can sometimes be hollow, I want to say we are going to fix this," said Don Haydon, the district's chief facilities and operations officer. "We put a very aggressive focus on efficiency this year - too aggressive."

 

"Efficiency can be cold-hearted," Haydon later told board members as part of a presentation to the board. "We were not focused on customer service."

 

The root of the problem, according to Haydon, was a decision to remove 52 buses from the district's fleet of 933. The district did this to save about $10 million over the next two years to avoid classroom cuts. 

 

 

 

 

 

Returning many of those buses to the road is an obvious first step in addressing numerous problems of late runs, crowded buses and some stops that were missed entirely, said schools Superintendent Tony Tata.

 

"We have made progress, but we know we are not through yet and there is much more work to do," Tata said.

 

While some school board members were sharper than others in their criticism, members of both parties expressed their concerns about the first week's problems and sought assurances that bus service would improve.

 

That has meant expanding the number of bus routes and returning at least 34 buses to the streets. Other changes include bringing in an outside consultant to review routes, looking for better ways to communicate with parents and finding money to put GPS units on all buses to help guide drivers.

 

Equally important, although not as pressing, is deciding what needs to be done longer-term to keep the problems from happening again. For example, Haydon said, the district must improve the ways it tests future routes, restore driver training to three days instead of one, consider a centralized routing system and determine if too few managers are trying to keep track of too many buses. There are currently three managers for 900 buses.

 

While many parents assumed a new assignment plan that provides more choice was the problem, school administrators have insisted that choices played only a marginal role in the problems. More important was a decision by the district to adhere to school capacity limits this year, something that was largely ignored in previous assignment plans.

 

Put simply, when a school was full this year, the students were given choices that were farther down the road. That meant parents who waited until August to register could not get into their closest schools and transportation officials had to keep adding stops that extended the initial runs.

 

But the heart of the problem was the district's decision to scrap its previous approach to routing buses in the hope of saving money. That created hundreds of different stops, unfamiliar routes and a reliance on software that failed to incorporate very human behaviors such as traffic jams and slow car pool lanes.

 

"It comes down to money," said parent activist Anne Sherron, who has been involved in assignment and busing debates for more than a decade. In comments to school board members, Sherron reminded the group that she spoke about many of the same issues almost 15 years ago. "Isn't it time we start paying for the school system we say we want?" she asked.

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

Didn't mean to beat you to the punch

Updated in your new thread.

Ultimate Responsibility

I agree that an independent audit should be done of the Wake County Schools Transporation Dept.  The ultimate responsibility lies with the Transportation Superintendent and up to Mr. Tata.

Yes, there are issues with buses at the beginning of each school year, but not nearly as bad as this year. There is no way the busing plan now in place was feasible from the get-go. The Transporation Superintendent should be let.

Also, the Wake Co. school board should just not accept the State's requirement for bus rider efficiency. Our board should meet with the Legislature and come to some kind of compromise regarding efficiency and being able to receive funds. After all, Wake County is the largest school district in the state and very different from other districts. The Legislature needs to take this into consideration.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong and I'm sure will

Someone can correct, but I'm pretty sure the Legislature does not set the requirement for bus rider efficiency. I believe that is done within NCDPI. The legislature approves the budget presented by the Governor, which presents total dollar amount for a transportation line item within the Education section of the state budget.

From NCDPI http://www.ncpublicschools.org/fbs/allotments/

 

The School Allotments Section develops and administers a system which calculates and distributes projected and actual State and Federal funding to the Local Education Agencies (LEAs), Charter Schools, and other education programs. School Allotments interprets State and Federal laws to ensure that formulas are developed in accordance with those laws. This section refines, changes, and develops new formulas and processes in a dynamic legislative environment. This section analyzes K-12 education financial data and sends findings to the General Assembly to be used in decision making that affects the funding of education in North Carolina.

Why would this be a

Why would this be a surprise.  Here is a county system that has, in more than one instance, allowed busses to go out and pick kids up only to have the busses turn around and drop the kids off at their stops because of snow.  They did not monitor falling snow and road conditions.  They have been responsible for children getting hit and killed because they have busses running in the dark.  Tata is just more of the same in a different package......maybe worse.

More buses?

Not sure where the additional buses have gone. Since my kids continue to come home an hour later than usual, we have started to carpool.

staff

That the transportation staff is experienced just makes this all the worse. They should have known how long it takes to load a bus, or that bus routes take longer to run at certain times of day. Though creating bus routes is logistically challenging, the basic data should be well-known. We've been transporting kids by bus for a long time now and and basic information like how long it takes for kids to get on a bus should have been easy to factor into the new routes. 

Exactly. They need to look

Exactly. They need to look for new jobs.

Or perhaps

Or perhaps we should look at who was putting these additional constraints on staff that made transportation this year unrealistic.  What pressures were brought to bear that weren't in previous years when we had "normal" back to school adjustments for buses.  We have some experienced staff in transportation who have done this well in the past.  Something else is going on here.  Obviously growth (but we've had that for years) the choice plan (I think culprit #1), pressure to reduce buses for efficiency (lots of pressure from leadership to do this) and other issues than lack of comptence by staff.  Don't shoot the messenger.

Look, this busing problem,

Look, this busing problem, while more severe this year, is not new to WCPSS. In the growth years of 2004-2006, it was very typical for the first two weeks of school to be marked by huge transportation problems. New drivers and new routes are only part of the problem. In the first two weeks, drivers must also stop at every stop on the route until they learn who will be riding the bus and who will not.

Adding to the chaos this year is the fact that WCPSS cut buses even after identifying that transportation costs would increase the first couple of years because of it's decision to allow students to grandfather.

Another problem is that WCPSS continues to do this by hand instead of using transportation software to design routes. When Charlotte-Mecklenberg installed GPS devices in all their routes, they reduced transportation costs by $6 million, while IMPROVING efficiency. WCPSS will have GPS devices in all buses by the end of September. Let's hope they continue their march into the 21st century, and embrace the technology that's out there. If they do, I'm confident that we will make great strides in the transportation of all of our students.

allowing grandfathering

Allowing grandfathering saved this school sytem this year.  It has been chaos with just rising K, 6, and 9th graders being forced into the choice system.  If all students had been forced into the new assignment system, we would have had a much, much worse mess and students going in even more directions.  Almost all students not in K, 6, or 9 stayed in their current school.  Thank goodness.  My one bus actually transports my kids and my neighbors' kids to our neighborhood (because we all grandfathered).  If we'd had to enter the choice system, we'd have even more buses. Case in point - our new K students are all going to different schools instead of our (former) base school.  They all would have preferred our base.  It's nuts - now they're being transported to various places rather than our one former school.   Yes - this new choice plan is a big part of the problem.

Why are the K kids not going to your former base?

Is your neighborhood not proximate to your former base? Is it not on the choice list for your neighborhood?

excuses

Those reasons may be excuses, but the level of incompetence and the preventable problems they are encountering IMO is well beyond the normal problems one would expect. Every morning between 4 and 6 am UPS writes new routes for their drivers to deliver thousands of packages in this area alone. People know how to do this, it is not some kind of esoteric skill. We need to (and have needed to for years) hire people that aren't ex-educators and ex-bus drivers to do this job. We need to hire people that once worked for transit systems in a big city and have urban planning degrees to run our transportation department.

Hiring an expert makes some

Hiring an expert makes some sense but it might be a bit late for that now.  Next year's plan will be different from this year's plan so who knows how that will impact transportation costs.  Also, don't forget that UPS has a lot of money to spend on making its routes more efficient and lots to earn by doing it well.  And even the military, Tata's old domain, isn't as hamstrung by budget issues as WCPSS seems to be.  

I agree regarding hiring

I agree regarding hiring experts in transportation. But you know as well as I that the education bureaucracy loves to take ex-teachers add give them all sorts of fancy titles, none of which they are qualified for.

School Districts across the country have tackled the issue of transporation efficiency, often with dramatic results, by using experts in the field coupled with breakthroughs in technology.

Here's a report issued by Charlotte-Mecklenberg on the overhaul of their transportation system:

http://www.cms.k12.nc.us/boe/ComprehensiveReview/June%20Work%20Session%20Documents/Transportation%20Report.pdf

Wake can only hope to study the transportation issue in this level of detail.

Hmm...

True.  Somehow, I doubt that, anywhere in the preequisites for an Ed.D. degree is a course in designing and managing large-scale transportation systems.  For all the critics who went after hiring Tata because he didn't have a degree in education, so what?  Would the degree have helped?  I don't think so.

Holes - More evidence

You must all agree by now that this is just more evidence of holes in a plan that was rushed through by the previous board. 

Damn the costs, nevermind about the ride times,

the real question is how will this impact Debra Goldman and her nomination of General TT for Superintendent of the Year?

This is, afterall, an military operational genius whose 18 months of educational experience was in logistics for the DC schools ! The Broad Academy must have had a "when fit hits the shan" class in their curriculum at sometime during the six weekends TT was in California?

Really, anyone?  Help a General Brotha out here!   

Still trying to get home from neighborhood school

My child attends what would be considered our neighborhood middle school and it's still taking 1.5 hours for her to get home after a 3 pm dismissal.  In our case there are two issues 1) the high school route before us is taking too much time causing the bus to arrive at the middle school up to an hour after dismissal and 2) the driver isn't driving our route in reverse order in the evenings.  Our children are being picked up late and then bussed to the furthest stop from the school before the driver will let anyone exit the bus. 

The lack of common sense is just astounding.

Did you call the transportation department on the refusal to run the route in reverse? That seems like a variable the driver could control, and should be made to run the route properly.

Eh...

I can kinda see how this would happen.  Let's say that the route called for the bus to enter several neighborhoods on the west side of a major 6-lane road.  If you're going South on the road, doing this is easy: turn into one neighborhood, then turn right onto that 6-lane road and move onto the next neighborhood.  If you're going North, then each of those turns is a left turn across traffic and getting back out is another left turn across traffic.

I don't know that's what's going on.  I'm just trying to think of how the bus driver's approach might make sense.

Same with our high school bus.

I'm sure it gets to our middle school late because it drops off at our stop a full hour after the high school ends.  We only live 5 driving minutes from school, but it's not safe for the kids to walk; no sidewalk partway and no crosswalks from any of the close neighborhoods. 

True

We're in the same situation.  There are no sidewalks or crossing  guards to get my child across I-540.  Sad becasue she could walk 3 miles in half the time the bus takes to get her home. 

ARgh...

You want to really place the blame?  Put it on declining state money.  The district tried to squeeze a little bit more out of transportation and a little bit more out of central office.  The combination meant that transportation was messed up and that Central Office wasn't staffed to hande it.  A double-whammy, but one caused by the budget crunch.

Out of curiousity, does anybody know what actually happened?  I mean, we all know the problems with buses being late or not showing up at all.  But, do we know WHY that happened?  Were bus drivers unfamiliar with their routes?  Were the routes overly-aggressive?  Were bus drivers messing up deliberately (unlikely, but possible)?  Were buses not fueled up on time?  Did students take longer to load than anticipated?  Did the bus driver wait for students at early stops?  

In theory, the transportation plan should have worked.  In practice, it didn't.  I'd like to know why.

You already know some of the issues

There were several reports of:

1.  Underestimates of how many students would require a given route resulting in the bus drivers having to figure out which kids from where to leave behind and wait for an alternate but.

2.  Drivers, even experienced ones, having problems completing the numbers of stops on their route(s) in the amount of time they were given to complete the route.   As some are commenting here, if the first route takes too long then there are delays to the second tier.

3.  The newest assignments resulting in a wider geographic breadth of transportation routes for a given area to further away "choices" than anticpated, catching everyone by surprise.

Really?

What part of declining State funds got Mr. Haydon and Mr. Snidemiller to forget to do their jobs? They have been at this for years and the current fiasco is a shame. Mr. Tata is to blame too but, in his defense, it could be said he had no clue that more choices will lead to more costs.

I don't give him a pass on

I don't give him a pass on that. Common sense says told many of us that the choice plan would require more buses, therefore, higher costs. People were being offered five choices per address and due to capacity issues, many were given their thrid and fourth choice while neighbors had their first or second. For example, people like me who tried to return to the schools serving our neighborhoods (or had just moved in) got the unwelcome surprise of no capacity at those schools and had to make do with a choice further down the list, not attended by anyone around us, just to get on a better feeder pattern. In our case, a bus is coming to our neighborhood that never had to come there before. That bus is also going to three other neighborhoods that were previously unserved by the school it is tranporting to.

So if Mr. Tata had no clue that the choice plan would lead to higher busing costs, then I question his competency.

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Tata acknowledged numerous times that there would be an initial increase in busing costs with the new plan but that they would level out as grandfathering diminished over the years.

And if you were surprised by the lack of capacity at schools in Western Wake, then you haven't been paying attention.

So you're saying that Mr.

So you're saying that Mr. Tata knew and acknowledged that the choice plan would have an initial increase in busing costs - because more buses would be needed - and then took 52 buses off the road. And that's not incompetent?

Yes, I knew there were capacity issues but not getting in to our closest school was an unwelcome surprise because when I test-drove the choice plan last fall, there was nothing on the website or powerpoint materials that said you may not get in because of capacity (some schools regularly run over capacity). The top reason for getting in was proximity and THAT was what was promoted. Since I live within the walk zone of one school and just barely over that for the second school, yes, it was a bit of an unwelcome surprise to not get into either.

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T. Keung Hui covers Wake schools.
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