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Wake County school board members and public weigh in on firing of Superintendent Tony Tata

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Democratic members of the Wake County school board were under the gun Tuesday to justify their decision to fire Superintendent Tony Tata.

As noted in today's article, Democratic members got far more explicit about their reasons for firing Tata than they did last week. At the same time, members of the audience and the Republican board members ripped into the board majority for its decision.

School board chairman Kevin Hill set the tone for the Democratic response during his opening comments.

"I’d like to address the events of the past week because I believe there have been some questions," Hill said. "In reality, I feel the board could have acted a little better in how it was handled.

I’ve got three areas I’d like to discuss. First is students. I believe the focus of the superintendent and the board should be on our students and student achievement.

But most of this past spring and summer, the board has been embroiled in putting out fires and debates over an assignment plan, merit pay, leadership academies and bus routes. By the start of the traditional-calendar year, it became clear that the choice plan has many flaws, of which transportation was one.

Concerns about using our tax dollars wisely: In many instances, program decisions were made before concurring with the Board of Education, and before details about cost were fully analyzed.  We still do not have an estimate about the impact of the current assignment plan on the cost of transportation, how much the leadership academies will cost, or the cost of expanding our Global or STEM academies.

Finally, trust. When a majority of the board loses confidence that they’re being dealt with in a forthright manner and can no longer trust the superintendent, the bond for an effective superintendent-board relationship becomes broken by a lack of effective communication between the superintendent and the board.

The superintendent came to with us with little experience and made many mistakes, most recently with the implementation of our current assignment plan. While a first-class individual who invested tremendous time and effort in our county, we did not have the working relationship needed to match the demands of the 16th largest school system in the country."

During his comments, Democratic board member Jim Martin said he could "say with confidence this was not an arbitrary or baseless decision."

Martin said he ran for school board last year because of his commitment to education.

“We’re going to need to have all members of the community move past positions of withholding support for schools if their personal demands are not met," Martin said to laugher from the crowd.

Normally, supporters of the board majority have packed the meetings. The opposite was the case Tuesday with majority members, instead of the minority, facing mocking comments from the audience.

Martin also criticized the letter that Paul Coble, chairman of the board of commissioners, sent to Hill on Friday.

"I continue to have many fruitful and productive interactions and working relationship across the county with persons of all political backgrounds," Martin continued. "These folks provide information that helps me make better decisions. However I must note within weeks of my election and before being sworn in into office, I was effectively threatened by major civic leaders of this county indicating that I needed to support former Superintendent Tata’s agenda or else it would cost support for the school bond and other matters.

This week we have seen a continuation of this strategy. A strategy that issues a series of demands that must be met as a condition for partnership with a variety of initiatives including support for a construction bond.

We are where we are today because of the misperception that partnership is achieved by laying out a series of demands that others must subscribe to. Partnership requires coming to the table informed by data, informed by one’s personal and professional perspective in order to collaborate in finding solutions.

In this regard I want to be very clear that any person or group, liberal or conservative, who issues demands for a certain action as a condition for their support for public schools appears to me to be more concerned about their political agenda than they are about students, teachers and public schools. I will listen to concerns expressed in such demands but my decisions will be based on data, not threats.”

Martin said he challenges the commissioners to develop a new method for funding school construction.

When it came to Republican board member John Tedesco's turn, he said he was   "in shock" of the remarks made by Hill and Martin.

"I’m a little disheartened to hear our chairman just comment on a couple of items in particular, specifically concerns about using tax dollars wisely after you just flushed a quarter-million dollars of our children’s money away," Tedesco said. "Particularly knowing that a quarter-million dollars is exactly what is spent to do three Renaissance Schools A quarter-million dollars is what it would cost to do retrofit of technology on four other schools completely. That money could have been used to serve our children.  So I am completely disheartened that you would even mention that.

More so, and with all due respect Kevin, I respect you, but I find it completely tactless and cowardess for you at this point to come in here and say this now when you had opportunity last week when we were talking about Superintendent Tata for you to comment on him, his quality, his quality of work and his performance. You should have did that then. Specifically before we voted to spend a quarter-million dollars.”

Tedesco went after Martin too.

"I find it completely flooring to me right now and reeks of hypocrisy for Dr. Martin to talk about partisan or ideological political groups that threaten the board into action of their goals, specifically as you yourself and other members of this board were locked arm and arm in those groups threatening us for years with marches of thousands of people," Tedesco said. "So if you want to move this board forward, I assure both of you at this time that’s not the way to do it.”

Republican board member Debra Goldman also responded to Martin's comments while firing another round of jabs at the Great Schools in Wake Coalition. Several speakers also attacked the group during public comment.

“I noticed Mr. Martin’s comments about being coerced or cajoled, or whatever words you used regarding groups on one end of the extreme or the other," Goldman said. "I noticed that the group that usually shows up to our meetings and is usually outspoken and has not been criticized or told to stop. In fact I said a prayer one time at the beginning of one of our meetings and the same group, they’re here tonight, heckled me in the middle of that.

But I noticed they were notably absent last week — perhaps celebrating. I’m not sure. But regardless, for board members to be so hypocritical to say that they’re not imbued by those groups, I can’t even fathom."

Goldman also hit on Hill's remarks.

“I am shocked, absolutely shocked," Goldman said. "Mr. Tata was fired without cause. It says it twice in the termination contract and Mr. Hill, your signature I believe appears on that contract as the board chair. So for you to sit here and make degrading comments about his ability to do the job, the job that he did."

“So board members — despicable, despicable behavior from those of you that did this to our county, to our teachers, to our staff who are all in fear," Goldman later said. "There is fear and panic going through this county."

GOP board member Deborah Prickett said Hill's comments “were out of left field.”

“Mr. Hill is just one voice and he’s not my voice," Prickett said. "He doesn’t represent my opinions over this situation with Superintendent Tata. I feel he’s grasping at straws and the straws are not there.”

Democratic board member Susan Evans said that firing Tata is in the best interests of the school system in the long run. But she said she felt the need to show he wasn't fired because of petty grievances.

“The actions of Mr. Tata had resulted in a complete lack of trust on my part and that of the majority of my colleagues," Evans said. "This lack of trust and pervasive undermining of the board majority by the superintendent had a crippling effect on our ability to work together on initiatives that were critical for the success of the system.

Board members’ characters were attacked publicly. We were told insulting things in private conversations intending to bully us into stepping into line with the superintendent."

At this point the crowd reaction caused Hill to threaten to have security called to remove people from the room. Evans proceeded to raise her voice to talk over the crowd.

“On more than one occasion the superintendent or a staff member he directed purposely acted in opposition to directions from members of this board," Evans continued. "A complete air of suspicion had permeated the collaborative working relationship and I, for one, had no confidence that he would move forward on initiatives and policies established by the board with fidelity.

Additionally there were consistent reports from members of the staff that Mr. Tata ruled with an iron fist, showing little respect for the knowledge and expertise of many in this system. It became known to us that a culture of fear existed amongst the staff.

Employees were regularly berated in front of their peers and had their personal and professional integrity attacked to the point that many felt unable to share their ideas without the fear of retaliation. I feel that an effective leader sets the tone for respect for an organization and Mr. Tata did not adequately show respect for those with whom he shared different perspectives and did not show respect for many of the employees of Wake County Public Schools.

The public should know that Mr. Tata was made aware of these perceived deficiencies during his annual performance evaluation that was just completed recently. Instead of trying to rectifying any of these things, he continued to commit offenses that evaporated any hopes that I had for future positive improvements."

Democratic board member Christine Kushner said they could have done a better job of explaining why they fired Tata.

“The majority of the board could no longer trust the actions and the consistency of the superintendent," Kushner said. "In my 10 months on the board I did not view him as a neutralizing force. Among other things I felt concerns that we had overpromised our parents and families and that has led me to question how resources and tax dollars are being used in the best interests of our entire school system.”

As the board meeting agenda was being adopted, Goldman accused Hill and Evans of violating closed-session protocol to make "slanderous statements" in "a lame attempt to justify your unjustifiable actions."

Hill responded that he wasn't discussing closed-session matters. He said he had cleared his remarks ahead of time with board counsel.
 
During public comment, none of the speakers defended the firing of Tata. Several had harsh words to say about the firing as they praised Tata for his actions.

One speaker, Rene Herrick, drew a standing ovation after her speech. Herrick is a former Wake County Teacher of the Year who said that the teachers want Tata back.

“I am a proud teacher of Wake County," said Herrick, who noted that she's a Democrat who voted for Evans. "It was my greatest honor to serve with Mr. Tata. In my opinion, and that of many others that I represent, Mr. Tata was our hero.

He brought our district back from being the subject of ridicule and possibly losing our accreditation. He always demonstrated extraordinary leadership towards our teachers and our most precious treasures — our students.”

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Evans ... Evans ... oh ya

She's the one that called Tata an a--hole in a mass email, right?

 

And she said it was his problem.

 

Got it Evans, and the crowd apparently got you.

if the problem is costly enrichment

given to under-enrolled, under-funded base Title I schools then that means those schools will be stripped of their enrichment - right?

Then this BOE needs to go ahead and tell Baileywick they lose their small school status, Jeffrey's Grove they lose STEM, and Hilburn loses EVERYTHING.

Good luck with this justification for firing Tata.

Snordone, are you saying

Snordone, are you saying that under the choice plan the schools that received new themes to make them more attractive will now see those themes removed?

It seems like those opposed

It seems like those opposed to Mr. Tata's firing want it both ways.  They want to euologize the Superintendant and excoriate the board majority for voting him out without giving its reasons, but then they profess to be "shocked!" when the majority defends its actions.

I don't have a strong opinon on the ouster -- I didn't seem much to like in Mr. Tata's performance but didn't hate him either.  But what I did see at the meeting last night were Mr. Hill and Mr. Martin offering measured, calm statements of their viewpoints while Ms. Goldman and Mr. Tesdesco hurled insults and exaggerated expressions of outrage.  How do they possibly think they are helping matters?

Right now, I am just hoping that all members of the board can buckle down and get to work on the draft assignment plan.  It seems to be a step in the right direction, and I'm eager to see how the details shake out.

RIght on!

We are all eager to see the details!  Having watched every school board meeting in 2012 for my own curiosity I agree with "magsmom" I didn't have much reason to like Mr. Tata's performance but I didn't hate him either! Selfishly I reached out to Mr. Tata after round 2 & again after our transfer request was denied & never received a response! While it's impressive to hear how he listened, engaged & responded to all these parents in wake county, I can't help but wonder why he ignored my e-mails & felt our situation didn't warrant a response! Dr. Martin is not our district representative but has earned my respect for responding to every e-mail I sent to Tata & cc'd the board.  He validated my concerns/worries as a parent & promised to do better for families like ours in the future.  Students who fell though the cracks of this plan that should have been given priority for calendar alignment with a sibling entering high school. We are property tax paying residents of wake county & we should never have been denied a seat when we fit the criteria of a school board created policy! Mr. Tedesco & Ms Goldman - if you desire to work for a common goal with our school board I'd recommend you put the DRAMA & outrage on the back burner- pronto!

 

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I'm not sure the results of

I'm not sure the results of your "response to the email" test are a valid way to judge the superintendent or BOE members. Others have experienced completely different results. I have written to my board member (Goldman) and gotten a response to each and every email. I have also written individual emails to Sutton, Evans, Martin, and Kushner, and have not received responses from any of them (these were separate emails written directly to these BOE members, and not sent to or cc'ed to anyone else). A few years back, I would always get a response when I wrote to Ron Margiotta, but others claimed to never get a response from him.

I have read about individuals who have reported problems to Tata and received quick responses. Others received a personal phone call from Tata. Yet for some reason, you did not get a response from him.

I don't know the reasons that some citizens get responses, while others don't. But it appears that there is enough of a variance, that I don't believe it is a fair way to judge either Tata, or any of the board members, both democrats and republicans.

Watching the board meetings

is how I judge them, listening how they interact & respond to each other with petty cat fights is enough to see some have their own agenda. Please don't put words in my mouth Jeffrey as I commented on the emails as my experience with many including Tata but I did not say that's how I judge them! If your not part of the solution your usually part of the problem so read the comments the way they are written before picking them apart...just saying!

...listening how they

...listening how they interact & respond to each other with petty cat fights is enough to see some have their own agenda.

Well duh. The Republican agenda is to promote proximity and stability in assignment, while the democratic agenda is to promote diversity (first by race, then income, now achievement) using forced busing.

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I commented on the emails as my experience with many including Tata but I did not say that's how I judge them!

Uh, you agree with a poster that said she did not like Tata and thought Martin was reasonable, and then you go on list your experience with emailing Tata and Martin. I'm sorry, I thought you may have been following the generally accepted writing practice of following up your opinion with supporting statements. My mistake.

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If your not part of the solution your usually part of the problem...

That's funny. I've worked on assignment reform for more than 10 years. I see you've been a member of this blog for all of 13 hours, so I will excuse your naivete.

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What you saw at the meeting were cowards

that didn't have THE GUTS to tell Tata to his face why they were firing him.

That's ok, they very well may get another chance.  I don't think he's done with them quite yet.

As for the "shaking out", relax, it will be the same as it's always been in the wcpss, except for the last few months, you'll do as you're told and this time you won't get a say when your school is full.

The statement "..it will be

The statement "..it will be the same as it's always been.." means "Don't worry someone will tell you which school to go to." Just sit back and we will do the thinking for you!

...

...and I'm eager to see how the details shake out.

You mean.. which poor kids get bused this go-round.

 

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The outrage is the majority

The outrage is the majority making Tata leave under a separation agreement that SPECIFIED (twice in the document) that there was NO cause on his part for the termination.  Then, Hill and other Dem members malign him with remarks that may or may not even be true and/or accurate when Tata is not even there to refute the allegations.  I don't know what rises to the level of wrongful termination but this situation may give it a good run for the money.  I'm hoping AdvancEd will come in and issue instructions to stay the course on the prior, first version of the choice plan with perhaps a tweak of allowing first, second, and even third choice (if possible) to be run on proximity before it allocates points and throws you into the general lottery.  However that process ran it seemed to keep proximate people from getting seats at  nearby schools which may have led to some of the transportation problems we experienced.

So...

Ever hear the expression "a day late and a dollar short"?  Hill's listing reasons days laters sounds like post-hoc rationalizing.

IMO, Kevin and Co. dug a

IMO, Kevin and Co. dug a deeper hole for themselves with their comments . They did nothing but further inflame others,  deserving much of the tongue lashing.

Note to statewide candidate Ms. Goldman, 

 Hey Gurl,  you need an appointment with your hairdresser or with Ms. Clairol. 

I agree about Kevin and the

I agree about Kevin and the others digging themselves a hole. They could have discussed these issues in public when they fired Tata but chose not to, claiming privacy issues. But then they bring it up now? Bad move.

Hill lashes out when he gets backed up against a wall. At the work session Prickett brought up the letter from Coble and how she had to read about it in the paper. Hill said that it was sent only to him. Prickett suggested that he could have faxed it to the rest of the board members. Hill then blamed Coble for not sending it to all the BOE members. Prickett again said Hill could have faxed it to them. Instead of Hill saying "You're right, my mistake", he had to point the blame somewhere else.

Hill wants to control information.

And it looks like he will be successful. Way to show nonpartisan leadership, there, Mr. Chairman.

Hill enjoys his role as

Hill enjoys his role as chair when it suits his purposes, but neglects his responsibility when it doesn't. Very clearly when a letter is sent to a chair of an organization and its message concerns issues that impact the entire board of that organization, it is his obligation to share it with the rest of the board. This is not the only example of Hill hiding information from his colleagues and the public, but his little pot of secrets is about to boil over.

There IS no justification

There IS no justification for the Tata witch hunt and character assassination conducted by the Dem BOE members.  Even the teacher of the year who voted Dem regrets her support for the local Dems on the board, and she seemed pretty reasonable/rational.  The southern dems are losing their support by their rash actions.  And, like the teachers and the parents said last night--we want Supt. Tata back and we want those of you who initiated this improper and unwelcome action to tender your resignations. 

Was she the one who smacked down Evans?

Evans, with her smirks, know-it-all superior attitude and hate towards everyone that doesn't see life through the same plugged holes as she.

Gosh she was good.  More parents need to up their game and give it to them just like that. 

At every meeting from now on!

No I know the woman who

No I know the woman who smacked down Evans and she WAS good. The level of disrespect that Evans shows parents who are not GSIW is unbelievable.

Parents should show her the same disrespect

From now on.

And I don't doubt they will. 

How can...

the republican members have so much disgust and yet not resign? They must have so much compassion for the children - which I think is the sole reason they continue to serve on the board.

if there is a vacancy on the board now, the board gets to fill

it with their choice. Which makes me very glad I'm not in the Republicans' shoes...because I'd probably commit a crime before I would not allow my seat to filled with another of their kind.

I think you're right

When Ms. Goldman spoke she mentions herself - used the words "I, me, my" - over 60 times and she used the words "children, students, kids, staff, teachers or faculty" only 4 times.  Her words tell us who this is all really about.

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