The Wake County school board will tackle the 2013-14 student assignment plan tonight looking at changes requested by the Democratic majority.
At Saturday's work session, which was only attended by Democratic board members, staff was asked to look at making changes to the draft plan, from elementary through high school. This could result in achievement-based changes and revisions to the middle school and high school feeder patterns.
At the same time, majority members said they don't want to move a lot of students next year and want to make changes over several years.
Let's start with how the elementary school assignments were drawn up.
Laura Evans, senior director of growth and planning, said they didn't emphasize any of the pillars in the June assignment directive — student achievement, stability and proximity — over the other. Some majority members say achievement should be first because that's the way it's listed on the directive.
While Evans said staff didn't read proximity as more important, they did redraw the elementary school base areas with students going to their closest school as the starting point. This included ensuring that areas adjacent to elementary schools were assigned to that school's base.
Evans said Saturday she didn't yet have figures showing how many students would be reassigned under the draft plan. But she was also quick to add that students have grandfathering.
Board member Jim Martin said that he supports grandfathering but that it doesn't always equal stability. Martin brought up the issue of some neighborhoods with historic ties to a school now seeing different assignments.
Martin cited how one principal in his district told him he's losing three neighborhood where's he's historically gotten his PTA volunteers. Martin asked if there's a way to keep these historical ties in mind.
Evans replied that "since the dawn of time" principals have raised concerns about losing active parents.
Board member Susan Evans echoed Martin's concerns, adding that she's uncomfortable that the draft plan seems to change so many neighborhoods with historical school ties.
“I’m interested in as little movement as possible," Susan Evans said.
This handout shows how many of the current students at each elementary school would be considered base students under the draft plan. Martin said he was concerned about the numbers and asked, as he would on several occasions Saturday, that they consider using the 2011-12 base maps as the starting point instead of starting from scratch.
This handout shows the projected student achievement impact of the draft plan on each school.
In terms of student achievement, Laura Evans said since they only had a limited amount of time to get out a plan they focused on areas that had high concentrations of low-performing students but didn't have the capacity to house all the students. This meant two areas.
Laura Evans said one area was inside the Beltline, particularly the eastern portion. She said that's basically the area where the Group 1 magnet schools are located.
Laura Evans said they set out the goal of seating everyone who lived inside the Beltline in a school inside the Beltline. But because Group 1 magnets are 55 percent magnet students, Evans said they didn't have enough seats to put all the students in the most proximate schools.
As a result, Laura Evans said some neighborhoods in the eastern ITB side were assigned to schools in the western ITB side such as Root Elementary. She said the western ITB schools have two base areas.
Laura Evans emphasized that with grandfathering the changes would take time to be fully implemented.
Board member Christine Kushner raised concerns about Partnership Elementary School getting a base when it's been a choice school.
Martin said that adding a base overnight to Partnership "creates a lot of instability so we will need to have a lot of serous program discussions." For instance, he noted that Partnership requires a strong amount of parental involvement. He said he's not sure they could require that of the new base.
Laura Evans said the other area with a high concentration of low-performing students they focused on was north and northeast of the Beltline. It's basically the rim school area around Brentwood, Millbrook and Wilburn elementary schools.
Laura Evans said they had to send some of the neighborhoods to schools further away to avoid building larger concentrations of low-performing students in the rim schools.
Board members brought up their ideas for staff to consider.
Martin asked staff about assigning students out of high-performing schools instead of just from low-performing ones.
"We have some schools that are weighted on one side and some that are weighted way on the other side," Martin said. "It strikes me we need to pay attention to the extreme fringes on both sides, not just on the one and look at both sides and say ‘hey are there any areas in the vicinity of this really high-performing school where we could use some of those resources to help build up.’”
School board vice chairman Keith Sutton suggested that staff look at moving some eastern ITB neighborhoods to schools in Knightdale. He said they could also move some Knightdale neighborhoods to eastern ITB schools.
For instance, Sutton said that they could look at areas assigned to East Raleigh schools like Barwell, Poe, Bugg and Powell elementary schools and have them go to Hodge Road or Knightdale elementary schools. Sutton said the trip up New Bern Avenue is only 10-15 minutes for those eastern ITB areas.
Sutton, whose district includes Southeast Raleigh and part of Knightdale, said he goes to the New Hope Road area often to shop instead of North Raleigh because it's quicker to reach.
Sutton added that it "makes sense" to have some East Raleigh students go to schools like Lacy and Root elementary schools west of downtown Raleigh. But he said that "in order to sort of mitigate some of the impact on those schools" some students could go to Eastern Wake schools.
"If you just extend it a bit and not necessarily keep them all inside the Beltline and just send some east as well to the Knightdale area," Sutton said. "Now of course at the same time you don’t want to adversely impact the Knightdale piece so again it seems to me you’d have to have some coming in as well and that could help the Eastern Wake area.”
Another area that drew a lot of questions from board members is the middle school and high school feeders.
Laura Evans said that they largely kept the feeders that were part of this year's choice plan. She said they made some changes such as having Carpenter Elementary feed into Davis Drive Middle instead of East Cary Middle.
Laura Evans said they also shifted York Elementary's feeders to Leesville Road Middle and Leesville Road. Evans said they wanted seats at Daniels Middle and Broughton High — York's prior feeders — to go to families who live ITB.
The issue that several board members raised is that it means areas that live near, including adjacent to middle schools and high schools, may not have them as their base schools.
Martin said he'd like "the same level of logic" used in the elementary base areas applied to middle schools and high schools. He said he'd like to see what would be the impact of having all students who live within a half-mile of a school get it as the base.
Laura Evans admitted they had made some mistakes in the draft plan, citing the parents who complained that they'd be sent to Partnership but go to Southeast Raleigh High instead of to Broughton. She said she's now recommending treating Partnership like a Group 2 magnet school so that the base would go to proximate schools like Daniels and Broughton while the magnets would feed into Moore Square Middle and Southeast Raleigh.
Laura Evans said that Kushner had brought another concern about families living around Daniels not getting it as the base. Laura Evans said those students should be able to go to Daniels.
Laura Evans said that GOP board member Debra Goldman had questioned why her neighborhood of Scottish Hills was assigned to different schools. Evans said that they could fix that and they had tried to keep neighborhoods together but sometimes it wasn't possible if they were too large.
Laura Evans said their focus was to keep neighborhoods and cohorts together. By having elementary school students in the same neighborhood go together they'd stay through middle school and high school.
Susan Evans said that middle school and high school assignments should be based off address not feeder.
The end result of the discussion is that staff will review the middle school and high school assignments. Martin said staff can consider combining the use of feeders and addresses for secondary school assignments.
Some board members raised concerns about the new open enrollment period allowing students to request any school that has space.
School board chairman Kevin Hill said being able to request any school could promote a case of haves and have nots because some families can provide their own transportation. He said it could also result in some schools being pushed into a capping stage sooner.
Sutton said the request any school language “frightens me a bit."
Martin pointed out that it's only a request and not a guarantee.
Another point that will be discussed today is whether new elementary schools should open K-5. Hill said that when he as a principal opened Wildwood Forest Elementary as a K-4 school it had posed staffing problems.
Hill said he doesn't put rising fifth-graders in the same category as rising high school juniors or seniors. Wake doesn't open high schools with upper classmen.
Another point raised by Sutton and Martin is that they're not going to get everything done at once. They said they're viewing any changes they'd make as a multi-year process.
“My thinking is that this could be like the multi-year assignment plans that we did in the past," Sutton said. "This may not be a multi-year piece but certainly a multi-phase process where we may be able to focus on particular areas, be it geographically, or focus on particular problems around low-achievement, or what have you, knowing that the next year we can come back and focus a little bit more.”

Comments
Kushner
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 19:23 — shank56Please speak up.. its as if you do not want us to hear what you are saying.
I'm pretty sure Kuschner is
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 19:36 — shearertwI'm pretty sure Kuschner is just Martin and Evans' secretary. I don't think she's supposed to speak.
You have her confused with Emmylou Harris
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 20:24 — FSandYOUOh wait, so do I.
What's that song, "A Void Among Men".
Christine Kushner is an
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 10:32 — annettahoggardChristine Kushner is an intelligent, reasonable, educated and likable individual who does have a voice on this board. She is not prone to histrionics or filibustering. She is a listener. She has been a very involved citizen. Imagine yourself saying these things to her in person. How small do you feel now? I'm amazed at how some of the more "aggressive" bloggers use this as a platform to boost their own feelings of selfworth by putting others down. Many hiding behind the invisible cloak of a pseudonym. Isn't this called cyber-bullying? Nice...having fun at others' expense. I think this sort of commentary should be removed by Mr. Hui or bloggers should have to use their real names and own up to what they type in the box.
Can it. Kushner may be all
Sun, 10/07/2012 - 08:56 — woodstockCan it. Kushner may be all the things you described, but she has also shown herslef to be highly partisan, a liar ("I have no involvement in GSWI.") and apparently lacks the character to decry the repulsive and libelous accusations being spewed by her collegaiuges and fellow partisans about Tata.
Soooo, no outrage for
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:12 — DrActualFactualSoooo, no outrage for shank56's PMS remark toward Goldman? Just sayin that there are posts that straddle the line, cross the line, and are quite polite but we don't get to censor any of them as this is for the most part a self-monitored blog. Sometimes Mr. Hui will delete posts and responses for those remarks he deems have been questionable but it is rare. This blog, much like old age, is not for the squeamish or faint of heart.
And the point is: I've
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 12:33 — annettahoggardAnd the point is: I've never trashed them.
And the point is: I've
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 13:07 — annettahoggardAnd the point is: I've never trashed them. And I haven't read your comments fully because you do have a tendancy to go on. Also, I've know Christine personally as our daughters have been at school together since kindergarten. She has been in the trenches working for the schools since I've known her. I admire her tremendously. I can defend her because I know her.
So, what you're saying is,
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 16:36 — shearertwSo, what you're saying is, you don't mind the comments....you just don't like it when they're directed at people you know. Is that correct?
So...if you guys are friends, perhaps you both could together venture out of your little bubbles and into the world outside and see just how much your favorite little diversity policies have screwed the rest of the families around this county. Perhaps you two could stop trying to protect what you've got at the expense of the rest of us. We don't want anything special, just to be left alone and have you stop taken from us.
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Fri, 10/05/2012 - 16:46 — SideburnsI'm pretty sure you would tell Kushner she behaves like Martin's and Evans' secretary. Not sure what's so wrong with that comment. She does. She waits until Martin and Evans are done ranting and then reaffirms what they said - as if she's taking dictation.
And, I agree. She may be nice but she's obviously clueless to the impact of her decisions on our children.
Since you know her personally
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 15:18 — FSandYOUTell her to wake up and look around, she doesn't have to be a puppet to Martin, Evans and Hill. She's allowed to think for herself and if she did she'd clearly see that what they've done, what they are doing and where they are going, is simply incorrect.
Tell her in the meantime, while they play politics & games, this includes her, our kids are falling further and further behind.
....and, as a follow up, I
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 11:49 — shearertw....and, as a follow up, I don't recall you ever jumping in to defend Ron, JT, Prickett, or Goldman against some of the pretty horrible things that have been said about them over the years. I suggested Kushner, who has said and offered little as a sitting BOE member, was acting as a secretary to Martin and Evans, two much more influencial and vocal BOE members with whom she have voted in lock-step. I find it hard to believe you find that more offensive than what has been said many times about Ron, JT, Prickett, and Goldman to which you have said nothing.
Ms. Hoggard, Keith Sutton,
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 11:32 — shearertwMs. Hoggard,
Keith Sutton, Jim Martin, Susan Evans, Kevin Hill and Christine Kushner willing ran for and were elected to public office on the WCPSS BOE. I am under the assumption they knew full well the scrutiny that comes with the office the pursued and accepted. I personally believe that these 5 individuals sought to be elected to the BOE to protect their own personal interest and are now making decisions based either solely on the own person gains and or rigid ideology which is reflected in a small minority of our population. Their decisions and actions on the BOE do not just affect me and my neighbors but, more importantly, my children’s lives. Children only have one opportunity to obtain a good education and good education experience. These 5 individuals are jeopardizing that for my children. You mess with my kids and the gloves come off.....period. I do not pay attention to this blog or post my comments for personal gain. I do so to protect my kids who are part of this school system. I do not see where Kushner has added any value whatsoever to the BOE and from all indications is essentially following the lead of Hill, Martin and Evans. Those individuals have made is perfectly clear they believe they are smarter than and better at making education decisions about my children than I am. I don't believe I need to post their comments here again for most people to understand that fact.
Now, that said, sometimes I know I can perhaps cross the line with my comments. When I do, I almost always apologize. Often it is a case of trying to find humor in this insanity. In this case, I do not find that an apology is necessary. As for posting anonymously, I've posted my name several times on this blog and as you will see I do not hide behind a pseudonym.
Sincerely,
Todd Shearer
Keung when can the handouts
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 19:14 — spiffy1Keung when can the handouts get posted?
love it
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 19:13 — snordonedecisions are being made to move kids around like cattle by a bunch of parents who have never known anything but 100% stability and lavish academic enrichment.
Now the politics start. "We are worried about those neighborhoods with long term ties to certain schools." This means that they have had coffee with parents from school X who don't want to go to school Y. Specific tweaks will be made to fix these problematic assignments.
Why don't we see how demented this is? This is not about education at all.
PMS
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 19:03 — shank56Goldman has it tonight...
Goldman's latest interview, not with the N&O
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 14:43 — FSandYOUShe said they are being talked over, down to, ignored, insulted and that's just in public. She's not sure they can work together going forward.
Debra, it's over honey. Either you win your next election or you, and the other Repubs, retire. Quit. Walk away. Leave. Stick the finger in Kev's face and say bye bye.
This is how it was before you and the others got elected and this is how it will be from now on. The voters have shown how pathetic they are by electing pathetic people just like them, so now let those voters get what they deserve. The new majority, and especially that Pansy board leader, have no intentions of hearing your ideas, much less working with any of them.
It's over, just walk away.
lol
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 20:43 — EBDarcy"She said they are being talked over, down to, ignored, insulted and that's just in public. She's not sure they can work together going forward."
That's good..
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 17:20 — bpuli9999advice. I hope you were not being sarcastic.
Absolutely not
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 20:22 — FSandYOUGoldman and the rest should walk tomorrow.
Why should they stay? We don't want anyone getting in the way of the socialist, constant reassignment utopia that Kevin "limp tool" Hill and the rest want to achieve as quickly as possible. Put the gas to it Kev. That'd be your
rightleft foot. I know it's not normal for you personally, but MAN UP Kev!We need this new NEW plan in place next month. Parents have to plan daycare, trackout camps and coffee gossip hours and to heck with waiting for the change, man up and do it now.
The public voted for it and is ready to bend over yet again for the socialist board members among us. Like a stamp on an envelope, lick it and stick it!!
Back to yearly re-assignments?
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 14:12 — msm96wolf"At the same time, majority members said they don't want to move a lot of students next year and want to make changes over several years."
Maybe I am missing something, but that basically sounds like going to back to the old days of re-assigning every year and having kids going to multiple schools again. Sad thing is nothing can be done about it, Dems control the board for another 3 years. Welcome back to the days where parents have no say where the kids go to school. :(
Not to mention the fact that
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 18:03 — jackjones209Not to mention the fact that while I was reading this post I had a vision of the board Dems. batting around students who are not making academic achievement as though the students are beach balls. Exactly how does moving students who are not making academic achievement help the students attain academic achievement?
Maybe if I move my bathroom scales to another location I will weigh less or more? To the moon!
What is the real agenda? Is someone making money from moving all these student around?
Thanks for the Laugh...
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 20:59 — JanisTangoMaybe if I move my bathroom scales to another location I will weigh less or more?
I noticed Keith Sutton's
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 14:28 — jenmanI noticed Keith Sutton's comments on Saturday and wondered the same thing. He said maybe they could do it in phases--that maybe this year we look at balancing downtown/SE Raleigh and the Brentwood/Millbrook/Wilburn area and then the next year they look at another area.
People do not want to go back to every year wondering if they are going to be moved. Especially if the moves aren't because of a new school opening.
Can't wait to watch the work session tonight. Was hoping to be there but will have to watch online.
You know, this fact has me
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 15:25 — schoolmomof3You know, this fact has me the most concerned and annoyed. Our ES and MS schools have changed under the new draft plan. I feel like our neighborhood has be the subject of reassignment talks for years now, but it has yet to happen. If they are going to go ahead with the revamping their social engineering plan, I wish they would just do it and then leave us THE HECK ALONE! I mean, it's not like we have any hope of anything changing for the better within the next 3 years and I just can't stand the constant yearly worry if this is going to be our year to be reassigned or not. Please spare us the grief, just do it all at once, and then let us all move on with our lives. But, they are probably too cowardly to do it all at once - who wants to deal with all of that heat coming from all corners of the county at once? So, lets just string it out, piece by piece, and make it an absolutely miserable 3 years. And no, I most certainly did NOT vote for Ms. Evans in my district last year - all 5 of those board majority members are just vile.
Are they back to streaming
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 15:02 — DrActualFactualAre they back to streaming all the meetings again?
I don't know about all the
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 15:17 — jenmanI don't know about all the meetings, but they streamed Saturday's work session so I'm assuming they'll stream tonight's as well.
It looks like WRAL might
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 15:25 — DrActualFactualIt looks like WRAL might stream it.
You mean endless reassignments
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 14:43 — FSandYOUWe will easily go back to an average of 10,000 a year. Maybe not next year, so they can ease their socialist agenda back into action, but the year after that they will make up for it and double up on reassignments to catch up, count on it.
You're not shocked or bothered by this are you msm96? I certainly hope not because there was plenty of warning given prior to the last election, but most didn't care to listen. Their Ron & John hate got in the way.
But, I bet most are listening now. Now that it's too late!
Now what about growth and the fact that no bond will be supported or passed in the coming years? The public has voiced that reality loud and clear, they will not support a bond at any time for THIS board. Susan Evans thinks waiting is a good idea because she thinks it will give the public time to cool down and forget. WRONG Sue the CPA Chewbacca, they will never forget my dear. By the time you shove more of your hate down their throats with your new socialist assignment plan you won't even have a friend in Jesus!
No I am not shocked. I
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 22:43 — msm96wolfNo I am not shocked. I called this back when the last election happened. That Tata would be fired before year's end and the assignment plan would be scrapped in favor of the old assignment plan. One area is too blame and that was Cary for providing the Dem Majority. I actually would love and see all Preston, Lochmere and MacGregor familes bused to Garner, Southeast Raleigh and Fuquay-Varina and send those kids to all the Cary Schools. I mean they voted to go back to the old plan, let them live with it be the ones who get bused!
If you wish to retaliate you
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 12:46 — DrActualFactualIf you wish to retaliate you should specify by voter precinct for those you deem responsible for voting in Susan Evans in lieu of Ron Margiotta (based on what you have said that seems to be your "beef") Although, your real issue most likely lies with the Dems bringing in a ton of outside funding and paying for several local offices and staffers to run an effective get-out-the vote campaign. I don't like the results but I don't deny what led to them and I don't care to punish the voters who bothered to show up and do their civic duty even if it was not in line with my selection or goals. I'd like to see the school board reps (all 9 from both parties) make data driven decisions instead of retaliatory-type decisions. Most telling was the recent statement of Dr. Martin to Susan Evans acknowledging how her District 8 area has too many YR schools and not enough traditional schools to meet parental choice calendar demands. The MYR schools put in place was largely due to 8-1 votes from the prior Dem-led boards to punish Margiotta's district for high growth numbers (and they hated him ) so they stuck it to his district. Is this any way to exhibit leadership and conduct facilities decisions that both parties and students have to live with for decades? No. Emotion needs to be left out of decision-making as much as possible. It will be interesting to see if the current board reverses any of the converted schools back to "traditional" not just single-track schools.
Actually, think your beef is mostly with Apex & Holly Springs
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 00:32 — nmoskalMost of Cary is in Goldman's district, including MacGregor, Preston and much (all?) of Lochmere. You can find the maps here:
http://www.wcpss.net/Board/maps.html
I stand corrected. Whoever
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 06:06 — msm96wolfI stand corrected. Whoever was in Ron Margiotta district should be the ones impacted most by being bused to the furthest locations and most undertated schools to help those schools FR numbers.
Interesting...
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 10:11 — JanisTangoI thought this gentleman had an interesting take on new schools and assigning kids there.
www.newsobserver.com/2012/10/03/2388318/a-better-way-to-handle-growth.html
Is he saying that kids would
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 10:14 — danofncIs he saying that kids would be assigned to a school up to four years before it was built?
Hill's exact words
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 09:49 — jenmanWhen bringing up whether to open a new elem school with 5th grade or not, Hill's exact words were:
Read The Link I Posted...
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 10:14 — JanisTangothis gentleman proposed an approach that I think it interesting and could possibly work. The problem is, WCPSS is not very good and planning so that would be the downfall of this approach.
Actually the more I think about it, this is similar to what the choice plan stated it would do for new schools. The key is planning.
I saw that column and am
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 13:22 — jenmanI saw that column and am still trying to figure out the implications of the idea and how it would all work. I think you're right that the lack of planning in WCPSS would be the downfall.
I remember a very recent
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 08:32 — woodstockI remember a very recent board decision to keep the choice plan (developed with enormous bipartisan public/stakeholder input) in place for at least three years. I thought that was the plan. But what is a plan if it is never carried out? Maybe instead of "plan,'" we need to refer to this new... uh, "thing" as a "haphazard measure designed to appeal to a far left-wing lobbying organization." That's kind of wordy, I know, but we can refine the language later.
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Thu, 10/04/2012 - 08:32 — SideburnsSo, basically, Kushner, Evans & Martin are concerned with PTA volunteers and their 'historical ties' to a school, the base assignments for ITB neighborhoods and how the rest of us can be used to avoid "extreme fringes" of performance.
If it weren't for the fact that the continued
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 13:10 — nmoskalMessing around with assignment will have negative impacts on schools and students, this would almost be entertaining. There are so many contradictions in their comments and positions that I can't keep it all straight. I think it may be a reflection of the fact that their liberal elite ideologies don't mesh with data results or with what the majority of their stakeholders want, so round and round the thoughts go.
I may be remembering this
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 12:37 — tropicalgirlI may be remembering this wrong, but when there were constant reassignments several years ago, wasn't the issue of the impact on PTAs brought up by many affected parents and dismissed by the then board? So why is this board so concerned about it? Was it because the PTAs affected years ago were OTB in Western Wake but now the impact is being felt ITB?
Just trying to get straight what brand of hypcocrisy we're dealing with. I'm still wrapping my head around Hill saying Tata was let go for releasing an assignment plan that wasn't reviewed by the board after Hill told him to release the assignment plan.
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Thu, 10/04/2012 - 14:21 — SideburnsWell, imo, it was a stupid comment then and a stupid comment now. How can one family be more worthy of stability than another?
I'm wondering the same thing
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 13:19 — jenmanI'm wondering the same thing about the sudden interest in PTA involvement at schools. In prior years, higher income nodes with PTA involvement were viewed as a resource to be spread around. I think it was Millberg who said that some schools could use an "infusion" of those families.
I fear that we will end up where we've always been with the wishes of certain areas catered to and others told that they need to do what is best for the county as a whole. Martin, Kushner & Evans are going to be in an interesting spot if they grant the wishes of these ITB folks because then it will be absolutely transparent what has been going on for years. In the past it all happened behind the scenes but now it's out in the open.
I absolutely agree with you on the hypocrisy of Hill saying Tata was let go in part because he released the plan when Hill had the ultimate say so. It seems that Hill didn't want to stand up for himself to Tata but now wants to take the high road. Too late.. When I spoke at the meeting on Tuesday, I mentioned that they never formed the choice plan monitoring committee. Martin approached me after the meeting to say that they requested the committee several times but that Tata wouldn't allow it.
If that is true then that failure is on Hill. If the board wants to do something they have the authority to do it. If Tata was resistant or giving his staff orders not to do something, then Hill needed to do something about it then. They should have put the formation of that committee on the agenda and voted to make it happen. I'm so tired of these excuses after the fact and all of the innuendo of what "really happened" behind the scenes that we can't be privvy to. That is BS.
Not sure exactly which schools were driving the discussion but
Fri, 10/05/2012 - 02:16 — nmoskalI am aware that in the draft proposal at least one OTB Title I high-performing RC school had what seemed to be the majority of currently attending nodes assigned elsewhere, which represented most of the nodes that included the historically more highly involved families. In that case the concept would be about maintaining them where they are versus spreading around.
It sounded like due to the tight deadlines set by the BOE staff didn't really have time to think through each school and potential impacts of the proposal. Looking at the maps and considering proximity options and locations of schools, I can see how staff came up with what they proposed.
However and maybe I'm wrong for thinking this, I do think that when it comes specifically to high-performing Title I schools, there should be a "let it be" rule when it comes to reassignments. If somehow the stars have already aligned (excellent principal, staff, involved families, positive school climate for all students, new found stability etc.) resulting in a high-performing school (and it's already diverse), just let it be - not because being involved means some nodes deserve more, but simply for the purpose of maintaining all aspects of the positive school climate that produced high-performing achievement results.
Maps, Hill, Sideburns and Blumberg
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 21:29 — realisticHill said Tata was warned, but continued to not follow board direction. He also said it was brought up in his performance review in August. But Hill didn't say that was the only time Tata was warned. So, really, you don't know if Tata was warned in private earlier or not. How loudly would you have screamed if Tata received a public warning? Is that how you would have preferred Tata be handled? I'm not trying to be condescending, but it was a private personnel matter, that ultimately became public. And, the board sets policy, Super carries it out. Had Hill "put it on the agenda" (choice plan monitoring) you would have declared him "circumventing the superintendent".
'If Hill does it, then its wrong' seems to be your position. The question about the release of the maps was whether or not the maps were public record or not since the link was emailed to the entire board, and Hill needed counsel from Blumberg. Did Tata authorize the release of the maps (to Sideburns - who said here she put a public record request for them, and announced the day she was told she would recieve them) before Blumberg advised? I don't have the answer to that. But, if so, well....
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Fri, 10/05/2012 - 06:43 — SideburnsYeah, nice try. You guys are really trying to stir up dirt on Tata, aren't you? Just relentless.
Did you watch Hill last night? He couldn't fight his way out of a paper bag. It's comical. Of course, he's bad-mouthing Tata now (and has his GSIW cronies doing it as well). He's a coward and a liar.
I got a link to the maps (the one on the wcpss.net) on Saturday in an email with all the other people who requested the maps - jenman is one of them, so is Amy Lee from GSIW. I was told I'd get them earlier but I didn't.
You know, it was funny enough when Calla blamed me for the late buses.
Hill lied and continues to
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 22:45 — woodstockHill lied and continues to lie. Don't trust a word that comes out of his mouth. Ditto for Evans and Martin. Know this and things will make more sense to you.
The Problem
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 14:16 — JanisTangoI'm wondering the same thing about the sudden interest in PTA involvement at schools. In prior years, higher income nodes with PTA involvement were viewed as a resource to be spread around. I think it was Millberg who said that some schools could use an "infusion" of those families.
How will they determine who participates in the PTA? You can't look at the income level of a neighborhood and assume that there is a lot of PTA involvement. I have a friend who was the PTA President at a school with a very 'wealthy' base area. They never got many PTA volunteers from that area. The families in that area wrote checks, but they never had the volunteers needed to handle the PTA activities.
Another good in theory, hard in execution idea.
He really said that - 'Tata
Thu, 10/04/2012 - 13:58 — loriacHe really said that - 'Tata wouldn't allow it?'
You're right, this just shows how ineffective Hill really is. Who doesn't have to deal with this type of thing all day long at work.