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Wake County Superintendent Tony Tata will meet with Hilburn Elementary School parents tonight as part of his efforts to assure them he's concerned about the situation at underenrolled schools.

The school board asked staff to help draw up recommendations to help underutilized schools. Staff was supposed to give an update on Tuesday but Tata pulled it from the work session agenda because he wants to address capacity utilization and the magnet school review as elements of the long-term student assignment plan he'll present by late spring.

Parents at Hilburn, York Elementary and Carroll Middle were the most vocal during this year's student reassignment process in lobbying for help to fill their underutilized schools. York and Carroll parents specifically asked for magnet programs.

According to this year's facilities utilization report, Hilburn is at 68.3 percent of capacity. York is at 72 percent. Carroll is at 79.7 percent.

Staff also identified a list of underenrolled and overenrolled schools projected for the 2013-14 school year.

The latest reassignment plan moved 101 students out of Hilburn to the new Walnut Creek Elementary in an effort to send those Southeast Raleigh children to a closer school But the move is projected to leave Hilburn with 399 students this fall on a campus with a capacity of 704 students.

Hilburn Principal Greg Ford said he'd show Tata the 20 classrooms that will be empty next year.

Schools get teacher positions based on enrollment so Hilburn will likely loss staff for this fall. Underenrolled schools also are less likely to have full-time teachers at positions such as music and art.

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Interesting to note...

Haydon was asked at the joint meeting this week about the "success" of converting schools to YR. Specifically, how much of the capacity gain is being utilized. He didn't know.

WCPSS disrupted the lives of thousands of families for their "capacity crisis" and has done zero follow-up. Would anyone be surprised to know that the remaining converted elementary schools currently enroll 30 students less than they did as traditional calendars?

Haydon also said he didn't know...

...the energy cost per student in each YR schools. But some of us do know - and have known for quite awhile.  The waste is significant in YR schools that are under-utilized, and Tata has been informed of that now. YR schools see a cost savings IF they are running all 4 tracks with a good number of students in each one. Looks like Tata is willing to take the true facts seriously and not ignore fool-proof data!

Quite refreshing!

That's amazing that he

That's amazing that he didn't know.  You'd think they would be tracking that from the very first year of the conversions.

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Why wasn't it worth the

Why wasn't it worth the time, chaboard?  C'mon, I'm a reasonable person who tries to stick with real arguments & discussion.  I really am surprised that the facilities guy doesn't know how much of the capacity is being used at the yr schools.  Do you have an argument or reason why we shouldn't expect him to know this? 

My Apologies Jen

The deleted post was actually a response to Alison, not you.  The misplacement was one of several reasons that I deleted it.  But doing so makes it appear I had an issue with you.  I didn't.

Underutilized vs New Schools...

A couple of days ago I read article that said around 30 new schools will be needed by 2020 and that it will probably cost about 1 billion. How about identifying and filling existing schools to capacity before building new ones? Has any research been done to see how filling up existing schools to capacity will affect new school construction / costs?

Haydon is simply inept and should be fired

If he doesn't know the answer to that most basic question, he should be fired! His continuation of the "i don't know's" has got to end. Has he planned for $4 a gallon PLUS bus fuel?

As for building 30 new schools and expecting the public to anne up for another large bond, and probably another beyond that, I agree with you bpuli and have been screaming this for a long time, FILL EXISTING SCHOOLS BEFORE YOU ASK ME FOR ANOTHER DIME!

Under enrolled schools- a taxpayer issue

As a parent of a student at Hilburn, I too am proud of all of the opportunities we as parents and the principal have provided. However, the bigger issue is that the schools like Hilburn and York do not receive the funding that other schools are receiving. More students= more funding. The parents of Hilburn have been working on this issue since the beginning of the year. The likely answer would be to take students from Leesville Elementary and Sycamore Creek Elementary and redistrict them to Hilburn and York. However, this among other viable options that we have presented to the board have been dismissed time and time again. No matter what your opinion is on the reassignment plan(s), I am glad that people are using their voice. I am also glad that Mr. Tata is listening. However, I want people to realize this is a taxpayer issue. Your taxes are going to fund brand new schools and facilities when we have perfectly good schools like Hilburn and York sitting under enrolled. I ask everyone to use their voice and plead that we make use of these schools. Thank you Mr. Tata for visiting tonight and listening to our voices. We may be small, but we are a tight-knit community that has come together. We want one thing- for our children to be afforded the same opportunities as everyone else.

Will be an interesting test

This will be an interesting test in view of the current environment.  Until now the reassignment changes have been relatively easy.  Here we have a couple of schools with strong support but due to demographic changes are in danger of falling below a critical mass level.  The demographic projections show for the next couple of years a widening gap of crowded schools getting more crowded and under enrolled schools continuing to struggle. So what to do ?

Taxpayers and others will continue to push for full utilization of brick and mortar. This will mean reassignment - voluntary or forced ?   Forced reassignment will be met with the neighborhood push back - fracturing the neighborhood, stability, why us, it is not fair.   Voluntary - offering a magnet or other enhanced offerings will be met by the inequity police. Why are we spending extra $ for the wealthy elite, it is not fair how come we can't have those offerings. 

Hopefully all will see the bigger picture and do what is best for the district and schools as a whole. 

 

take note of the justification of Kahlenberg's model

Reassignment has not been easy, it has destroyed our public school system. We have all heard Chuck Dulaney say a thousand time, at every reassignment meeting "The emphasis that middle class and high income parents put on their child's education makes schools strong." This is absolutely true. They will not stay in a school if they perceive that school is not providing their child with what they need to be successful. This is where policy 6200 crashed and burned. The board and staff did not understand that when they create schools with amazing programs (music programs, foreign language, academic electives, lego clubs) and schools with nothing, parents were not going to stay in the bare bones schools. Force did not work and will never work. And Controlled Choice will only work if all schools are equal.  Should we fund 6 foreign languages at one school and none at another??

You are right though, voters will just not support the next bond for school construction. They have lost confidence in our public schools. They see the incompetence and waste and disrespect and won't support anything until we do better. I think Tata gets this, he is asking some good questions and listening to what people have to say.  And my guess is that based on his DC experience he knows that the problem is in central office.

This Seems To Be So True...

They will not stay in a school if they perceive that school is not providing their child with what they need to be successful.

I would like to also add the word challenged to the above statement.  This seems to be particularly evident as a child hits the 3rd grade school year.  Every year our schools get all these wonderful kids in the younger grades and they have such a wonderful experience in K, 1st, and 2nd.  Around the 3rd grade time frame I see an  big exodus where a lot of parents pull their children out to home school or to attend a magnet or private!  The common complaint I hear is the lack of challenge for their children!  I would like to see the school system evaluate  why that is?   We see this yearly at our school?  Does anyone else have this experience at theirs?  

Here's an experience

I know of kids reassigned from school A, to school B, for the sole purpose to fill up school B because it's a new school. Not long after arriving at the new school, the parents were notified that their kids were behind where they should be and what their records indicated. How's that for an experience!

School A

Ah yes - school A the neighborhood school where parents are engaged and on top of their kids progress.  Maybe those parents  should be thankful they were reassigned. 

Easy for you to blow it off

but I think it shows yet again that our system is a totaled. It's been covered up, passed over and shell gamed for years. Those fearless leaders some love to pat on the back, the ones that quit, and the previous school board, more quitters, should be brought back to stand trial for failing our children and screwing this system beyond shredded belief. I think it also shows that it's ultimately the principal's responsibility and when they fail they should be held accountable. As in fired!

3rd grade

I found this post interesting, as I'm considering pulling my rising 3rd grader out to homeschool - didn't realize this was a common thing. I think the fact that it correlates with the first year of EOGs is important to note. I already feel like they're focusing only on things that matter on the tests, and on "how to take a test" over actual content - ie history, and even spelling and grammar, are all lost. And while my child does well on the practice tests that she's already taking, I think some of the questions seem very random, and sometimes have two answers that one could argue are correct - it's not clear how they decide on the "right" answer sometimes.

Thank You

for the response.  The EOG correlation isn't something I thought about, but I do agree it might be part of the issue.  I agree that teachers are focused on getting their kids to pass the EOGs because that is how they are measured.  Sometimes children are overlooked that are not going to have a problem when taking the EOGs.   In my son's 3rd grade class they regrouped the kids by level after the initial EOG test.  The kids were grouped by level, 1, 2, 3 and 4.  This allow the teachers to focus on the level 1 and 2 kids that need to retake the test.  It also allowed them to give extremely challenging work for Level 4 children.  My son enjoyed the last part of the school year more than he had the whole year.  I wish they would do more of that throughout the year!  We have to do whatever we can to help the kids pass the EOGs, but we can't ignore our gifted kids or kids that are grade level! 

3rd Grade

Kids develop at different rates but by the end of 3rd grade you know if the kid is on track or not. As students are not segregated by ability in ES, there is the risk that in 4th and 5th grade the student will not be challenged as the teacher is more focused on the students that are below grade level.  So why is this ?  In a nutshell it is funding.  I cannot speak for other ES, but I know at Leadmine they use to have Kindergarten TAs for each class and then 2 TAs for 1st and 2nd grade for every 3 classes. Now they have a floating TA for Kindergarten and no TAs for 1st and 2nd grade.  My daughter was identified as AG at the end of 3rd grade. The teachers she had in 4th and 5th grade were wonderful and found ways to keep her challenged.  So I suggest you talk to the teachers and the principal. 

With regards to teaching to the test.  Teachers and schools are evaluated on the EOG scores - so yes this is going to be the primary focus.  

 Until now the reassignment

 Until now the reassignment changes have been relatively easy.

What do you mean by this statement?

Voluntary - offering a magnet or other enhanced offerings will be met by the inequity police. Why are we spending extra $ for the wealthy elite, it is not fair how come we can't have those offerings. 

I have long thought that we should be looking at no base magnets for some of these schools.  We've got 3 magnets ITB that are located in nice middle to upper income neighborhoods but there aren't quite enough non-F&R kids to fill them at an acceptable F&R level.  Demag one of those schools, move the base from the other 2 to that school and then let the other 2 continue to be magnets.  It would open up more seats at the magnets for people who really want those programs and it would still give the base families a nearby 'healthy' school. 

In a choice model like Alves, we would fill the remaining 2 magnets with students from the magnet appliants and the demagged school would be one of the 'neighborhood options' for them to pick from. 

We've got pretty much the same situation in the rim.  Douglas and Brooks are already magnets and then we've got Hilburn and York having enrollment problems.  Figure out how much capacity is actually needed in that area and decide which schools will be the magnets and which will be the base schools.  The base schools will then have a critical mass of students to be fully utilized and capable of functioning well.

Of course there would be other details to work out but I think this could work.  One issue would be attracting lower income families to these magnets so that these schools aren't just elite academies.  But we also need to make sure we're not trying to just get some F&R or underperforming kids in there for their numbers.  We must make sure that we are acually serving all of the kids.  Our magnet programs really have the potential to raise achievement in low performing kids but we're not taking advantage of that opportunity.  That is a problem with many of our current magnets and I think it is on the 'list' of things to be addressed.

Until now the reassignment

What do you mean by this statement?

What I mean is the reassignment proposals ove rthe course of the last year have been relatively easy - primarily fulfilling campaign promises.  Fortunately for the BOE growth slowed considerably and the BOE has not had to tackle the real tough issues of reassigning NED families to utilize capacity.

I have long thought that we should be looking at no base magnets for some of these schools.  We've got 3 magnets ITB that are located in nice middle to upper income neighborhoods but there aren't quite enough non-F&R kids to fill them at an acceptable F&R level.  Demag one of those schools, move the base from the other 2 to that school and then let the other 2 continue to be magnets.  It would open up more seats at the magnets for people who really want those programs and it would still give the base families a nearby 'healthy' school. 
 
  
So what is stopping these schools from being filled ? Currently there are more magnet applicants than there are seats. It should not be a problem to fill these seats voluntarily. I am wondering what happened to the proximate neighborhood bonding thing. I guess it only applies to certain neighborhoods.
 
This however does not address the specific issues with Hilburn,York and the other RIM schools. How is sending more OTB kids to ITB magnets going to help with underenrollment  at Hilburn and York ?  So the question remains - how to fill the RIM schools ?

I'm talking about doing this

I'm talking about doing this for OTB and ITB schools.  It is the same number of seats whether or not the magnets have base nodes.  I'm not talking about sending more kids from the suburbs to fill the magnet seats.   There's still the same number of seats at those 3 schools--we are just shifting where they are at.  This could allow us to free up some money to put magnet programs in place in other areas that need them.  We could move a magnet program to another school or create a duplicate or new program based on demand. 

The problem with creating more magnet schools in the rim (or where ever we have unfilled schools) is that it draws kids from the remaining schools that aren't magnets.  Many of the schools in the rim area are either underenrolled or on the verge of becoming so. It's just the natural progression as the area ages out and people are drawn to the new subdivisions further out.   If York becomes a magnet, they will draw families (like Brooks and Douglas do) from Hilburn, Baileywick, Stough, & Jeffrey's Grove which will further exacerbate their capacity issues. 

I'm not proposing this to 'stick it' to anybody.  I'm proposing this as a way to give each school a large enough population to be healthy and allow for a normal amount of transfer out to magnets or year round options.  There are already many schools that have a possible base population that exceeds the school's capacity because they have planned on families taking advantage of the options. 

I would not be proposing this if people would have to be bused far away to the next closest school.  This is no different from how VYR has been handled all these years.  Yes, Durant is my closest school but it is YR and I must apply if I want to go there.  It would be an adjustment but it is already happening in this county.  People whose backyards back up to Durant and who can walk on a path to get there aren't assigned there and must apply like everybody else.  This would be the same thing.

We have got to get creative in order to handle all of these issues in a time of shrinking budgets.  Laura Evans has already said that they are looking at all options, including changing the grade levels of schools.  This is just another possible solution to some of the issues we face.  It is absolutely worth considering along with the others. 

 

We have got to get creative

I agree there needs to be creativity to handle the challenges ahead.  However many of the creative ideas are contrary to the neighborhood school model that we keep hearing about that is so crucial to the success of the student and the  school.    There is even concern over the choice model - allowing neighborhood families to go in different direction - leading to fracturing of the neighborhood.  So how to reconcile these differences ?  Is the district ready for the adjustment one year after fighting to install a neighborhood school majority ?

However many of the creative

However many of the creative ideas are contrary to the neighborhood school model that we keep hearing about that is so crucial to the success of the student and the  school.

I think you and others are exaggerating the arguments that Jeffrey and I made about 'neighborhood' schools.  Neither one of us said that everybody should have to go to the same school.  I even said that my concern over fracturing neighborhood base schools isn't more important than other concerns--just that it was one that shouldn't be ignored. 

I would say that Jeffrey and I were very clear that people should still have options.  I agree that the best school for my kid may not be the best for my neighbors.  But I think that having multiple base schools that are mostly indistinguishable from each other is going to make things more confusing.  The majority of people that I talk to just want a nearby base school, a nearby calendar option and the magnets for people who want them.  I understand that we may not be able to do base schools--we may have to go to a choice model, but even then having too many 'base' schools to choose from can be just too much.

It would be helpful to get an idea of how many people have each school as their 1.5 mile school and as their closest school.  There are a lot more questions to be asked and answered about Alves' model.

Your concern that my suggestion about magnets is against the 'neighborhood school' idea.  How?  Those families would all still have a nearby neighborhood school--they just wouldn't automatically get to attend the magnet school. They would have to apply like everybody else.  Like I said twice before--it's no different from how Year Round schools have been run for many years now.   

Did they vote for

Did they vote for neighborhood schools or stability? In a growing area, there is no way to provide both.  We could, with the WEP/Alves plan, have closer schools for those who want them, and programs that attract families who prefer program to proximity. Families who want proximity save transportation costs, families who want program choice fill older schools and save us on building expense. 

It is extremely unfair for my neighbor to make us go to our closest school to keep our neighborhood "together." The best school for my child is not the closest school, and we still have friends in the neighborhood. 

 

Oh enough with the growth whining

If you and your leaders can't handle growth, you and they should have never allowed it to happen as it did.

We voted for neighborhood schools AND stability. You can have both, when you don't have a Reverend and the Barber Jrs. running around calling in the Feds, threatening lawsuits and obstructing those who were elected to run our school system.

Hmmmm....

You said:

I have long thought that we should be looking at no base magnets for some of these schools.  We've got 3 magnets ITB that are located in nice middle to upper income neighborhoods but there aren't quite enough non-F&R kids to fill them at an acceptable F&R level.  Demag one of those schools, move the base from the other 2 to that school and then let the other 2 continue to be magnets.  It would open up more seats at the magnets for people who really want those programs and it would still give the base families a nearby 'healthy' school. 

How does this fit with the theory that all children should go to their most proximal school to foster their sense of community?  Or is that true only outside the beltline?   Which communites/neighborhoods are forced to drive by their most proximal school to get to the single non-magnet?  

I've never been a proponent

I've never been a proponent of absolute strict proximity schools.  I wouldn't suggest this if the schools weren't close to each other.  Two of the magnets I referred to ITB are literally 1 mile apart.  The 3rd is about 3 miles away from the other two.  There are already students assigned to Joyner who drive past Underwood to get there. 

This isn't just about ITB.  I suggested this very same thing for the rim schools.  It could be applied anywhere we have several underutilized schools in close proximity to each other.  This is no different from how Year Round schools have been treated for the past decade or longer.  Many people have Durant Road elementary as their closest school but aren't assigned there.  The neighborhoods that can walk to Durant are assigned to Fox Road and before that, Wildwood Forest.  I've known people who live in that neighborhood & have applied for Durant but not gotten in.  So how is this different?

We have limited funds and if we are going to have magnet programs that are special and offer things that we can't afford to give to all schools, then we need to make those seats available to all students.  If those families want to apply for the magnet programs, they can do so just like everybody else and I will absolutely advocate for them to have an equal chance just like I advocate for everybody else.

this a program equity problem

Enrollment = funds, most people don't know that our school funding formulas are based on enrollment. And like your school, my Title I rim school is underenrolled and thus underfunded. We can't keep our high income parents in our schools because they are seeking enrichment. We can barely keep our basic music, PE and art funded - we almost started the year with them at 80%. Every year we lose 30-40 children, we lose money, we lose the ability to fund our PTA, we can't have clubs, we have a higher percentage of high needs children, and the vicious circle continues.

I don't think magnets are the answer, but having a minimum standard set for all schools (guaranteed specials funded at 100% and a set number of electives) is the answer. If Hilburn and York and the rest of the rim schools had these elements as part of their curriculum we could keep our schools at capacity. And we must have Needs-based funding to educate the children we have with higher needs.

Forcing Leesville parents into York and Hilburn won't work, it never does. Less than 10% show up and you will have gained nothing.

Forcing Leesville parents

Forcing Leesville parents into York and Hilburn won't work, it never does. Less than 10% show up and you will have gained nothing.

I thought Hilburn was south of Leesville and shared a few neighborhoods.   It seems like it would be easiest for those kids between the schools to leave the over crowded Leesville and fill the under capacity Hilburn.    Ultimately, everyone can not have a seat in Leesville.

I agree with snordone.

I agree with snordone. Having a minimum standard set for all schools (plus additional funds to help out underfunded and/or high needs school) is the answer. At the very least, magnet schools can part with some of their rich offeerings to help out most volnerable/underenrolled schools.

A thought

I don't know a lot about how schools are funded.  But in accounting there are two types of costs, fixed and variable.  The former in schools would be things like the principal's salary, the latter would be things that vary with the number of students like the cost for textbooks.  (Mixed costs have both a fixed and a variable element.)  Is there some reason that funding could not be changed to have a fixed element (to cover the minimum standard you discussed) and a variable element (to cover costs that really do vary with the number of students)?  After all, if a school loses ten students, they aren't going to reduce the principal's salary, for example, but the school funding goes down. 

Can't keep high income parents

We can't keep our high income parents in our schools because they are seeking enrichment. 

Where are they going  ?  Why does it matter that they are high income ?

They go to private, charter,

They go to private, charter, and magnet schools. 

High income families are able to fund their PTA, and provide volunteer hours. Low income families don't have the luxury of volunteer time. 

Good for you--I'm really

Good for you--I'm really glad to see parents at Hilburn, York & Carroll being proactive.  I agree that we all need to speak out about our concerns and we all need to be heard.  I attended a similar event last night at Athens Drive High and I was very impressed with Tata's answers to questions.  It was more of a meet and greet followed by a general q&a, so it was a bit different from Hilburn's meeting, but it was very good.  He seems to be able to filter out the propaganda from both sides and come up with the truth in the middle. 

I hope that you and/or other Hilburn parents post here to keep us updated on the meeting.  There are many of us here who want to understand what is happening at other schools and in other parts of the county. 

Under enrolled schools- a taxpayer issue

As a parent of a student at Hilburn, I too am proud of all of the opportunities we as parents and the principal have provided. However, the bigger issue is that the schools like Hilburn and York do not receive the funding that other schools are receiving. More students= more funding. The parents of Hilburn have been working on this issue since the beginning of the year. The likely answer would be to take students from Leesville Elementary and Sycamore Creek Elementary and redistrict them to Hilburn and York. However, this among other viable options that we have presented to the board have been dismissed time and time again. No matter what your opinion is on the reassignment plan(s), I am glad that people are using their voice. I am also glad that Mr. Tata is listening. However, I want people to realize this is a taxpayer issue. Your taxes are going to fund brand new schools and facilities when we have perfectly good schools like Hilburn and York sitting under enrolled. I ask everyone to use their voice and plead that we make use of these schools. Thank you Mr. Tata for visiting tonight and listening to our voices. We may be small, but we are a tight-knit community that has come together. We want one thing- for our children to be afforded the same opportunities as everyone else.

What Do You Mean By????

 More students= more funding 

Are you referring to PTA fund raising or what is received from the district?  Is Hilburn a Title I school?  I agree that York, Hilburn and some others in the areas need to be looked at.  I know Hilburn was decimated as far as the student population when they opened Sycamore Creek.        

The difference in funding is...

the amount given to the school per student.  If a school is underenrolled, then they have fewer students, therefore less $ to work with.  If a school is near or at capacity, then they have more funds because there are more students attending. 

Thank You!

for the clarification. 

Funding

School funding is by a formula that is applied equally to all schools. The more students the more teachers. The fewer students the fewer teachers. If one year there were 125 students and 5 teachers and the next year the enrollment drops to 75 then the number of teachers would drop to 3.  The principal does have some discretion based on where the numbers fall.   Let's say funding is based on 20 students per 5th grade class and there are 100 students = 5 alloted teachers. The principal could increase the class size to 25 - needing only 4 teachers and use the other position to fund something else.   

I think there is also an

I think there is also an issue with specials.  Months of Employment for specials is determined by the number of students at a school.  It's not entirely based on # of students, though, it's based on student population levels.  I don't know the exact numbers, so I'm just making these up as examples.   A school gets a certain 'factor' that is multiplied by the number of students to determine the MOE.  A school with less than 500 kids gets 1.0 x the number of students.  A school with 500-699 gets 1.25, a school with 700-899 gets 1.5 and so forth.  Again, I'm making the numbers up just for illustration.  The way Donna Hargens explained it to me a few years ago is that schools with a population just above the minimum for a level can do more with those MOE than a school that is at the top of that level. 

I don't know enough of the details, obviously, but I know that the population of a school affects the specials.

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More with Less

As a Hilburn parent, I'm amazed at the wonderful things Hilburn is able to accomplish with underenrollment.  They don't use it as a crutch and they make the best of their situation by providing the children with an excellent learning environment.  Our child previously attended another Wake county school and Hilburn does so much more with much less.  Good job, Hilburn.

I thought Leesville wanted

I thought Leesville wanted to annex Hilburn into the Leesville campus as over flow for their kids?

what am I missing? Leesville ES is over capacity and Hilburn is

under-capacity....why not reassign children from Leesville to Hilburn?  Hilburn is less than a mile from Leesville, therefore they share a common neighborhood. 

 I'm assuming Mrs Prickett would agree that this option would keep children at one of their two neighborhood schools?  This seems like an easy problem to correct, but I may be missing something.

I think they are referring

I think they are referring to Leesville Middle School

What Would You Like To See Done With Hilburn To Help...

I'm so glad to hear you say that.  My son has a friend who attends Hilburn and says the same thing. 

What would you like to see done at Hilburn to address the utilization issue?

This is an issue that the

This is an issue that the Alves plan, along with incentives to apply for Hilburn, can address. Add a theme or other programming, and allow Leesville elementary families to choose it instead of their overcrowded school. 

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