Parents will have 30 minutes on Wednesday to make their best case for why Broughton High School does or does not need its magnet program.
At the start of next week's meeting, which begins at 9:30 a.m., 15 minutes will be given to each side of the Broughton issue. If people take the full three minutes allowed, then each side will have time for up to five speakers.
If some board members had their way there would be less time for public comment on Wednesday.
During Tuesday's board meeting, board member Ron Margiotta asked if there were plans to allow public comment at next week's meeting. (BTW, Margiotta is one of the board members who's leaning toward removing Broughton's magnet program.)
The board typically schedules up to 30 minutes at each regular board meeting for public comment. But the time is often expanded if there are a lot of speakers.
Board member Beverley Clark, who is leading the demagnetization effort, argued that they had "received hours of comments" from parents on the issue. She proposed allowing only 15 minutes for public comment.
Clark's request died when no one seconded the motion.
That's when board member Patti Head, also a demagnetization supporter, proposed giving 15 minutes to each side. She said she didn't think it would be fair to only hear from the people who happened to be the first to sign up.
Supporters of keeping the magnet program have been overshadowed so far by those who want to remove it from Broughotn. For instance, all the speakers about Broughton on Tuesday urged that the program be moved to another school.
Comments
ncdad1--I'm not sure I've
Tue, 12/09/2008 - 11:59 — jenmanncdad1--I'm not sure I've seen anybody on here say that they don't want their kids to 'mix' with poor kids. I've certainly never said anything like nor have most of the regular posters here.
This goes back to one of the fundamental problems here in Wake County. If you question the diversity policy, you are automatically branded as an elitist or racist who believes that all of 'those' kids should stay in their 'own' schools. I question the wisdom of busing kids 18 miles one way from an already healthy school (25% F&R) to an even 'healthier' school.
I question the idea of busing kids to a lower poverty school yet doing little else to help them catch up academically. We need to overhaul our diversity policy and take an honest assessment of what the goals are whether or not we are achieving them.
What I have heard is that
Tue, 12/09/2008 - 14:05 — ncdad1What I have heard is that people have worked hard to get to a certain neighborhood / school and want some value for it. America is all about getting an advantage like a home or location and profiting off it in money / quality of life. I have heard that kids from other schools are disruptive and a bad influence on their kids. Again, reasonable. People think that in a smaller / local setting where say parents all know each other they can better control the environment. I think it is part of the American ethos to search for the better school system which will get your kids into a better college.
Government is metric driven and has to care for all people. They use to rely on really smart schools in wealthy areas to hold up the average pulled down by low performing schools. Eventually, people caught on and realized that by playing the averages the schools systems were able to show YTY increases relying on a small segment of the kids. Unfortunately, their goal is to educate every one. So, how best to do it.
How do they addtress disparity between schools? Is the answer smaller classes, higher teacher pay, more resources for some schools? The USA article yesterday seemed to infer many of these poor kids have brain injuries caused by poor food, stress, and a toxi environment and we it may be too late to help them much once they arrive in school. Early life intervention to solve that problem evokes the cry "That is not part of WCPS's problem" and "sounds like socialism". I think the school systems seems to have landed on "let's just mix everyone together so no one has an advantage over another else". A good solid , middle of the road average "C" performance. Every schools is identical so no one can whine.
With as many schools systems as there are in the US, you would think one would have found the way to educate everyone to their maximum potential at the lowest possible cost. Maybe they are out there and not getting the press they need.
So, I agree with you that the diversity / busing issue like all policies should be reviewed. I am just guessing government has gotten tired of all the change and reinvention and simple mixing everyone together in one big pot solves some of their problems of inequity in the near term and is the easiest to implement. As a result, I don't see much changing quickly.
uh, from below(sorry it's the english major in me)
Mon, 12/08/2008 - 19:56 — AngelaWprej⋅u⋅dice noun, verb, -diced, -dic⋅ing. –noun 1. an unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason. 2. any preconceived opinion or feeling, either favorable or unfavorable. 3. unreasonable feelings, opinions, or attitudes, esp. of a hostile nature, regarding a racial, religious, or national group. 4. such attitudes considered collectively: The war against prejudice is never-ending. 5. damage or injury; detriment: a law that operated to the prejudice of the majority. –verb (used with object) 6. to affect with a prejudice, either favorable or unfavorable: His honesty and sincerity prejudiced us in his favor. —Idiom7. without prejudice, Law. without dismissing, damaging, or otherwise affecting a legal interest or demand.
As far as Languages who
Mon, 12/08/2008 - 11:02 — jenmanAs far as Languages who cares. Take Spanish and call it a day.
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Some people don't care about AP, drafting, or orchestra, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't offer them. There are many people, including myself, who care about foreign language offerings beyond Spanish.
Speaking of Athens--I am
Sun, 12/07/2008 - 17:20 — jenmanSpeaking of Athens--I am amazed at the number of 'vocational' or CTE classes that Athens has. Perhaps Athens could become a CTE magnet?
Move IB to Athens
Sat, 12/06/2008 - 09:52 — btwalshI strongly believe Athens Drive High School is in greater need of the IB Magnet Program than Broughton High. When the Board votes on December 10, I ask that they vote to remove IB status from Broughton and place it at Athens. This request is based on facts:
1. Broughton has a healthy base and is over capacity.
2. Removing the IB program at Broughton would open 646 seats currently occupied by magnet students, resolving Broughton’s over-capacity issues.
3. Many IB magnet students drop-out of the IB program their Sophomore year yet retain enrollment at Broughton which takes seats away from base students
4. Broughton base families are requesting the IB program be moved out so they can stay at Broughton
5. Athens Drive has the largest mandatory base assignment map in WCPSS yet remains under enrolled. This indicates additional mandatory assignments haven’t resolved capacity & diversity issues. A long term solution is needed, not more reassignments.
6. Athens Drive has a >40% low income ratio that is projected to grow
7. Granting IB magnet status to Athens High will fill open seats with voluntary application students and balance high need populations.
8. Granting IB Magnet Status to Athens achieves School Board’s Policy 6200 goals and supports the Purpose of the Magnet Program
· balanced distribution of students with higher needs
· facility utilization
· alignment with the magnet programs
· stability of assignments and distance.
9. Athens base families are requesting to stay at Athens, IB magnet status at Athens would make that possible.
10. Athens has greater excess capacity than Millbrook, which means the magnet student population can be accommodated more efficiently.
In addition, I ask the Board to make Growth Management and the Reassignment Process transparent.
The current Growth Models projecting student enrollment growth do not include the impact of the current economic crisis. Keep in mind, Growth Management numbers have been wrong in the past as documented by the fact WCPSS must return $3.2 million dollars to the State because they over-estimated new student growth by 2,000 in the 2008-09 projections.
The Board of Education members must request a cost/benefit analysis and validation of the current Reassignment Proposal before they vote to spend taxpayers money to reassign 26,000 students.
My lack of faith in the Growth Management data is based on fact. The office of Growth Management refused (3 separate times) to share historical enrollment data for my node. Growth Management claims new student enrollment will increase 33% in 3 years, yet we've documented a 6% decline and wanted to know where they got their facts. Again, they refused to discuss the issue.
Recently, I was able to obtain a 2005-2006 Reassignment Plan produced by Growth Management that showed our node had a 18% declining enrollment. Hmmmm. How did our mature, established neighborhood go from an 18% decline to a 33% growth in student enrollment in 4 years? Growth Management won't tell us and won't tell the Board of Education.
If the data for our node is flawed, how many other nodes data is flawed? the WCPSS administration and Board of Education members will end up with egg on their faces again this year if they approve the current Reassignment Proposal and student growth enrollment projections.
The solution is to make the Office of Growth Management and the Reassignment Process transparent to the WCPSS administration, to the Board of Education, and to the taxpayers of Wake County.
All student enrollment projections conducted by the Office of Growth Management must be validated and must incorporate the current economic conditions. In addition a cost/benefit analysis must be conducted prior to the approval of the Reassignment Proposal.
Instead of Atens in should go to Knightdale or Millbrook
Sat, 12/06/2008 - 23:22 — sam123456Instead of going to Atehns it should go to Millbrook or Knightdale...we need an IB program in this part of the county. Our commute times to magnet are ridiculous and our children are not provided the same opportunity. It seems that the majotity of the posts on this blog are about the western part of the county and that North east part of the county is forgotten about.
When is EVERYONE including
Sat, 12/06/2008 - 21:59 — PublicSchoolFanWhen is EVERYONE including the board going to wake up and figure out that the IB program at Broughton is not a piece of furniture that can be picked up and moved!!!! It has taken years to make it one of the top IB programs in the nation. Let Broughton keep its IB program and HELP another school get started. It is a flagship program that if allowed can share what has been learned with other schools.
When did this become a competition to see who can "win the IB program lottery".
Not choosing to do the IB diploma program after soph year does not mean the students "drop out" of the IB program. Besides how would this be any different at any other school? Not every student is cut out for the rigors of the IB diploma program in their Jr. and Sr. years no matter what school they go to.
A lot of the Broughton base families that are calling for the removal of the IB program at Broughton know less about it than you apparently do because they also don't even have kid there. Listen to the Broughton teachers, students and current parents, and you will hear that IB is what makes Broughton a "healthy" school.
Its not the program they
Sun, 12/07/2008 - 08:56 — vsheehanIts not the program they will move but the extra funds for the program. Also they will try to get the teachers to move into the new IB school Good luck on that.
I see the post about how you can not move a program and think are people being dense on purpose. No one thinks you can move all the teachers and materials but you can move the funding. It will take two years at the new school to build the program with the funding that went to the old program.
to clarify...
Sun, 12/07/2008 - 09:32 — JonesSausagejust to clarify, vsheehan:
the current funding for the IB at Broughton is essentially for testing fees and the occasional training session for a teacher/administrator.
Were the program to move, a simple transfer of the funds currently spent at Broughton on the IB wouldn't begin to cover the costs. For one thing, the two year application and authorization process costs a considerable amount of money. This one-time outlay of money has already been paid at Broughton. Also, the staff at a new IB school must be trained (a considerably large number of people, even if only the Diploma Program is moved. That number would quadruple were it to also include the Middle Years program) before IB will authorize the teaching of the curriculum. This is another large cost that has been paid at Broughton, other than the rare need to train a new teacher or admin.
The difference between the start-up and maintenance costs of an IB program are considerable--in the many tens of thousands of dollars. Maintaining a current program includes a small fraction of the cost that starting one from scratch does. A week after the board has had to return 11 million dollars of funding, such a move would be--in addition to many other things--fiscially very irresponsible.
Wait a sec...
Sun, 12/07/2008 - 21:14 — JSBinNCI have been told, and was under the impression - that if a magnet school is de-magnetized, it is no longer permissable for the school to offer any of the extra classes or experiences to students that in essence - made it whatever magnet school it was. It's WCPSS policy. Base school = no extras. Magnet school = all the extras.
If that's not correct - please advise... but it's what I was told by the cirriculum person (via email) within WCPSS.
hmm ... all you need to do
Sun, 12/07/2008 - 22:34 — ncdad1hmm ... all you need to do is look at the inequities between the schools (e.g. languages / AP classe offered) to see that some schools get lots of "extras"
I didn't mean AP classes, etc
Mon, 12/08/2008 - 10:35 — JSBinNCIt sort of sounded like the posters above me were stating that while the funding may be removed from Broughton, the actual IB program would/could still exsist... I am saying no - it cannot. If the boe de-magnetizes Broughton and "moves" the IB program to another school - then no student in Broughton will be permitted to take or do anything at ALL to do with IB anything - it's no longer legal for them to offer IB anything to anyone - even if private funding was in place at the school.
The Magnet stuff offered is totally different and separate from the AP classes that lots of schools may offer.
Ncdad1 The AP issue is
Sun, 12/07/2008 - 23:52 — vsheehanNcdad1
The AP issue is a WCPSS issue.Wake says AP cost to much to have certain AP classes at certain schools. There are no real cost in AP classes. You just have to except that some AP classes will have 5 students. Wake schools with less AP classes have less students who want to take AP therefore Wake does not offer them. That crapabout money Dulaney said at the KH meeting was not true. Wake just does not want to offer classes that do not house a set # of kids. As far as Languages who cares. Take Spanish and call it a day.
JSBinNC
Yes, that is the rule in Wake only Magnets can have extraclasses. They do that to entice families to send their kids to certain schools. Why would someone volunteer to bus their kid an hour away from home if there was no carrot. What happens instead is you can choose to send you kid to your base school that has basic AP and honors or send them to Enloe to be beaten and attend Aerodynamic class. Broughton and Daniels fought to have the IB so they could entice base families out of private schools.
"Wake schools with less AP
Mon, 12/08/2008 - 07:59 — ncdad1"Wake schools with less AP classes have less students who want to take AP therefore Wake does not offer them."
As you increase the % F&R in a school you decrease the number wanting AP classes so the non-F&Rs don't get the classes and have to move to another school. That is why everyone has to share the F&R burden or every school needs to get the same offering of AP classes whether there are 5 or 25 kids in the class.
That's a reasonable argument (for a change)
Mon, 12/08/2008 - 08:22 — Voice_of_Reason_However, wholesale busing is not the solution. It would be cheaper in the long run to bus the children who have the desire for AP classes than what is done now. That being said, since not all schools have the same AP classes now and we have busing; how is the status quo any better? Are you advocating even more money for busing? Why not get rid of magnet programs as they exist and use these schools to take care of those children that desire the AP classes? Another words, those that produce or have demonstrated a desire to produce get extra benefits, what a strange concept? It's how life is in this country after all.
What's with "Busing" in
Mon, 12/08/2008 - 13:54 — ncdad1What's with "Busing" in every comment. Sounds like you were raised in the south in the 60's. If the poor kids get in car or take a taxi to your school are you going to be as upset. From what I have seen most parents drive their kids to school in gas guzzling SUVs so busing would probably be more economically friendly.
Also ...
"Another words, those that produce or have demonstrated a desire to produce get extra benefits, what a strange concept? "
You spend all day at a computer typing on blogs. Your life can not be that hard. Ok, you had a paper route when you were a kid. If you can tell me you came from the inner city, from absent, drug filled parents that beat you and you lived on the streets most of the time I'll agree you know what your are talking about.
You're getting stupid on me
Mon, 12/08/2008 - 14:16 — Voice_of_Reason_Bussing in refers to bussing from outside the base school district. I doubt most get driven in, but some do.
And as a kid I workd my but off, a lot more than a paper route. My dad insisted, even though we were not poor.
I don't deny my life is pretty easy now, but as you probably do I have an RSS reader that pops up in the corner of my computer screen, blogging is an easy and pleasant diversion while I am doing other things. So then, you blog too, your life must be easy too if you use your own logic.
BTW - Saying I never lived it so my voice is irrevalent is one of the most shallow minded statements I have heard in a long time. That's like saying, I was never a dog, so there is no way I could look after one. The thing I do do is ask questions, read all viewpoints, and listen.
We use to keep foster kids
Mon, 12/08/2008 - 15:07 — ncdad1We use to keep foster kids and I got my eyes open to what "opportunities" are available to these kids. One of my foster daughters lived in a school bus and was prostituted by her parents for drugs. She was not aware of the "opportunities" you mention. She was too busy trying to survive and not ignoring the "opportunities" around her. She did not have sober parents to fill out the magnet form, the tax forms to establish need, the a perment address or phone to have an employer call her so she could start the "career". She would have pulled her self up by her boot straps if she would have had any. After a humbling experience of thinking I was going to be super dad and change the world and barely getting her out of highschool (note , loving home with two high income, four years of work (14-18), highly educated "parent") we finally got her through nail school on the second try. That is the kind of situation I think about when mention these kids and the opportunties they have.
OK. And
Mon, 12/08/2008 - 17:02 — Voice_of_Reason_May God Bless You for doing that. The government did it's part through the foster care program and you did the rest , good job. But it's way off topic. Yes the world is not perfect and there are bad people out there and children do suffer for it.
So again, what has that to do with schools? [or as you say Enloe, to use your own words]
Sorry, Angela, just killing time waiting for a phone call.
hey, I get it, sometimes, ya
Mon, 12/08/2008 - 17:52 — AngelaWhey, I get it, sometimes, ya just gotta! ;)
It's getting vicious, I'll quit feeding.
Mon, 12/08/2008 - 18:28 — Voice_of_Reason_I love it when people climb the mountain and say look how compasionate I am, I'm better than you. And he doesn't even know me, I think they call that PREJUDICE. That's a word that often used out of context to the true meaning. But yes, sometimes you gotta.
Why is is wrong to say you
Mon, 12/08/2008 - 19:38 — ncdad1Why is is wrong to say you more experience with an issue or problem than someone else? It seems like if you actually wanted to learn or move forward on the problem, you would want to listen. PREDUDICE is when you don't know the people and make broad generalization about them.
Read your posts
Mon, 12/08/2008 - 20:35 — Voice_of_Reason_You are very prejudice and not just to me. You make terrible assumptions about the compassion of people that have made it in life. The fact you experience a problem doesn't make you have all the answers. If that's the case, a doctor can't help an old person because he's never been old. Do you think in my over 50 years of life I have never been touched by or helped a poor person like the foster child you helped? I have seen worse too, much worse and seen predudice in other countries that exists today that rivals the worst days of America. But no, I never raised a foster child; my hat's off to you on that. But it doesn't make you an expert on schools.
I don't mean to blow my horn
Mon, 12/08/2008 - 21:59 — ncdad1I don't mean to blow my horn because that foster care stuff was forced on me and I am a better person for it. Where you and I differ is from what I have seen life sucks for many of these kids. I have seen that first hand. I think they need something more. Some may say their absent, drunk parents should be held responsible and provide it. I don't see it. As you know, I am more on the side of them mix with kids from stable home, in good schools with functioning PTA and active booster clubs. I understand where folks who have worked hard for that environment don't want to share it with disruptive kids. I understand but can not go along.
"So again, what has that to
Mon, 12/08/2008 - 18:08 — ncdad1"So again, what has that to do with schools? "
What it has to do with is that you only know these thing you spout about these poor kids and their opportunies in theory and I know them in fact. You are an arm chair commentator who has not experienced these things yet has unwaving opinion on them. Once you see with your own eyes you will be a lot more compassionate (in action not just opinion).
Hey, I use to be everyone has opportunity conservative until I saw what these students have working against them. I am sure you are a nice person who gives money at church and maybe went to Habitat once but if you know these kids you would be a lot more generous in what you say. Sure "kick in the butt, pull up by the boot straps, America has opportunities, let the F&R vend for themselves" sounds good on these pages but really hurts these kids every day. Those are the kids no one wants in their school, who no one wants to support their PTA, everyone says give them more funding to stay out our of our schools but they never get it when the budget is done. How can you not get excited about that and want to help personally (not by blogging).
A last feeding - Sorry Angela I couldn't let it go
Mon, 12/08/2008 - 19:09 — Voice_of_Reason_So you're a liberal who voted for John McCain then, following that logic.
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VOR, you know better....
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Thanks WikiAngela
Mon, 12/08/2008 - 15:02 — Voice_of_Reason_I was being to get tired of it anyway, he doesn't bring much to a intellegent debate.
Nice proposal, good luck
Sat, 12/06/2008 - 11:33 — vsheehanNice proposal, good luck with it. Apex and Leesville parents have both put together thoughtful, thorough proposals to accommodate the BOEs lust for Diversity at all cost. The BOE and Growth management said “Nice work” then ignored the proposals and did what WCPSS had planned. So do not get upset when WCPSS acts positively towards your idea then blows it off.
Keung--The N&O should have
Fri, 12/05/2008 - 10:30 — jenmanKeung--The N&O should have been there. The mayor of Wake Forest blasted the school system for not having more 'walk zone' schools. You could probably ask her for a copy of her speech. She was the second to last person to speak at about 9:10. By then half of the audience was gone as well as the media.
A good job by a principal and a student - WMS
Fri, 12/05/2008 - 09:45 — Voice_of_Reason_Yesterday a Wakefield Middle School a student brought a weapon to school. Another student reported that they had seen a gun in a locker and a resulting lockdown and search was conducted in a professional manner. The weapon turned out to be a BB Gun, but the child was appropriately expelled from school. The principal sent out a telephone message to all parents to stop any rumors and to inform us what happened. Well Done!
BTW
Fri, 12/05/2008 - 10:12 — ncdad1BTW .. so you won't think stupid teens are not unique to Wakefield area ... fourth Apex and Panther Creek students killed a student last week.
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4076709/
Assumptions
Fri, 12/05/2008 - 10:25 — Voice_of_Reason_Who said they were from the Wakefield area? Remember, we have economic diversity busing from other areas. And why do you make the assumption that I might not think there are children that make bad decisions everywhere? Maybe even you or I have made bad decisions and were not caught - (I have, especially if you apply today's standards); that is not what I'm talking about. I was singing the praises of the principal; it was a compliment. Even though it was not a firearm, taking the kind of action he did and advertising it sends a strong message to the children. Again cudos to the principal. This was not a table knife in the lunch bag incident where IMHO, the punishment is usually too harsh. Even a fake gun can get a child killed if somebody feels threatened.
"Who said they were from the
Fri, 12/05/2008 - 12:43 — ncdad1"Who said they were from the Wakefield area? " The N&O article gives the kids schools and home addresses for the suspects and murder victim which are Apex and Panther Creek. The original thread concerned a student bringing a bb gun to Wakefield MS.
ncdad1 - Read it again
Fri, 12/05/2008 - 15:22 — Voice_of_Reason_That article is totally unrelated to Wakefield. I am the one who put out that news since I heard about it first hand. And as far as F&R numbers being under-reported in WCPSS high schools, has little to do with the problem. In fact, if they are, that's good. F&R numbers mean nothing to Federal money allocations to WCPSS for Title I grants. That allocation is based on US Census income data. Title I school designations are based on F&R numbers. The money does not increase for the numbers of school, you just have to spread it out. US Census numbers show a lower level of poverty than F&R numbers indicate. BL- F&R numbers aren't a very good way to balance the schools even if you agree on the reason (I don't, you do). If they insist, a better indicator would be Free Lunch % since there should be less fraud. Title I would still suffer and the children would still be bused out of Title I protection. Please read more about the NCLB (If you can, read the bill (Warning, it's not easy even for a college grad); you will get a better idea of the underhanded motives of WCPSS diversity busing scheme. Then if you are still supporting them, tell me why they track academic performance by node when determining which nodes to bus out of Title I base areas. Open your eyes, it's a shell game. I actually don't have that much problem with the balancing of Middle and High Schools because children are more or less grouped by ability in core subjects. I don't see the results that justify the expense, but I can live with it. I fight this battle not for me, since I already removed my 3rd grader to private because his school was failing him, he started to regress because his teacher was overwhelmed by bad behaviour of mostly F&R kids and ESL students taking extra time from teaching others. He's an A+ student now. My daughter is doing well in public middle school, she is an AG student there and they are able to challenge her (something that wasn't there in ES).
Congratulations on finding
Fri, 12/05/2008 - 18:34 — vsheehanCongratulations on finding acceptable schooling situations for your kids.
Some of those same folks at
Thu, 12/04/2008 - 16:50 — raleighreaderSome of those same folks at the meeting wanting the magnet done away with.... were some of the very same ones fighting to keep the magnet just weeks earlier!!!!
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If you have documented proof that they spoke or wrote letters, etc., then I would pass that info along to the BOE. It might bolster your argument that the magnet needs to stay.
I was there and I can list
Thu, 12/04/2008 - 16:46 — raleighreaderI was there and I can list some of the changes that were made. I don't know all the node numbers necessarily, but I did jot down major info.
Watershed nodes north of 98 are going to Wake Forest-Rolesville HS instead of Millbrook. I think that somebody asked if that included all of the 'watershed' nodes and Chuck said yes. But I'm not 100% positive.
Walk zone around Heritage will stay at Heritage instead of being assigned to H6 or WF-R.
Spot node 709 will align with Node 261.
Walk zone around WF-R will go there instead of Heritage.
Recommendations for automatic grandfathering:
Rising 4th, 5th & 8th graders.
Rising 7th, 10th, 11th & 12th IF going from an existing school to another existing school.
Recommendations for NO transfers:
Rising 6th, 7th & 9th moving into new schools.
Or
Thu, 12/04/2008 - 15:49 — JSBinNCcan you just post a new blog thread for the CEM meeting from last night (even though you were not there...) so those in attendance have a place to post about their thoughts/take on the meeting? Thanks...
north wake cem
Thu, 12/04/2008 - 15:33 — sam123456Keung,
Can you follow-up on some of the outcomes of the meeting. Apparently it was announced that some of the watershed nodes that were being reassigned to Millbrook High are now going to be reassigned to Wake Forest Rolesville, etc.
Thanks!
NO NOTICE!!!!!
Thu, 12/04/2008 - 15:13 — MAGFANThe reason that there were very few parents at the meeting in favor of the magnet is because.... WE DID NOT KNOW ABOUT IT!!!!! The majority there were those that had asked the BOE to revisit the status when they were reassigned!!!!! Why such a rush to do away with a Nationally recognized program??? ...There are tens of thousands of dollars and many families involved .....It seems that there needs to be a bit more time spent on what the best solution to this is before we jump to conclusions!!!!!
Some of those same folks at the meeting wanting the magnet done away with.... were some of the very same ones fighting to keep the magnet just weeks earlier!!!! .....Hence the mind change of Beverly who is the elected rep. for that area that was reassigned!!! Her poor excuse for not saying something about the magnet originally was because "She was so worn out from the Daniels fight"....I call BS on that!!!! Why would you vote in favor then suddenly change your vote ....Nothing about the magnet or criteria changed!!!! But suddenly your neighbors and friends and constituents are reassigned!!!!
Something really reeks about all of this!!!!!
CEM - Wake Forest
Thu, 12/04/2008 - 14:39 — wornoutparentKeung,
I was also disappointed at the lack of coverage of the CEM at Wake Forest-Rolesville HS. Many parents from NW Wake County attended this meeting because no other more convenient location was offered. Was the N & O represented at the meeting?
We didn't have anyone
Thu, 12/04/2008 - 19:31 — KeungHui (author)We didn't have anyone attend. I'm planning on posting tomorrow the list of changes listed from the Wednesday and Thursday CEM meetings. Just keep in mind that changes involving high schools are subject to next week's Broughton vote.
That's because I wasn't at
Thu, 12/04/2008 - 14:29 — KeungHui (author)That's because I wasn't at last night's meeting.
request for separate blog thread for the 12/3 CEM mtg
Thu, 12/04/2008 - 18:08 — loriaci'll second the request for a separate thread, I would like to hear others' thoughts on the meeting. It's interesting that over 1000 North Raleigh students are affected but there was no CEM meeting in that part of the county. I'm sure we had less turnout from our nodes due to having to travel 30 min+ to Cary, WF-R or Broughton for one of these meetings.
Broughton' magnet status
Thu, 12/04/2008 - 12:55 — jane83I am a base parent of a junior currently attending Broughton and I have an 8th grader who will be attending in the fall. We are not slated to be reassigned, however, the comments I have read on this blog are insensitive to those who are. It is disheartening to see people refer to members of their own community as "us" and "them". We are all "us". Wake County is a wonderful community with wonderful schools. ALL of our children deserve a stable school environment so that they can not only get an education, but also develop relationships with teachers and friends alike, that will hopefully remain with them throughout their lifetimes. Yes, our family lives "inside the beltline" and I don't think it's fair for other bloggers to assume that I didn't care when other reassignments occurred that, I may add, also DID NOt AFFECT ME BECAUSE I DID!!! I wrote letters to the school board on behalf of those children too. Broughton does not need the IB Magnet to attract students. It should never have been placed there to begin with. My child does not participate in it and neither will my second child. that's the beef. Let's stop discriminating against each other and WORK TOGETHER to keep wake county schools the best for ALL of our children.
I depends how you see it
Fri, 12/05/2008 - 09:18 — Voice_of_Reason_If you are happy in your school with all it's wonderful programs and never get reassigned, you see us as complainers and divisive people. I understand why you believe that, because your view of WCPSS is distorted because you are not living what the majority of the county is dealing with. It would be wonderful if we all had an equal chance to get what you have, but we don't. You see, I look on it as you are reaping the benefits of a program that was originally intended to help the poor, while the rest of us get the opposite. The truth is, the program you benefit from doesn't even help the poor. We all pay taxes into the "school pool", we all should expect the same opportunities, or a least given a fair way to get equal access. WCPSS doesn't give us this. Also, despite your beliefs, we don't have this wonderful school system that you see from your perch. For most of us, our children and families are mere pawns in a game designed to limit the number of bad schools, they do this by spreading the problems and making the schools of the mainstream mediocre instead of letting schools excel. We have been somewhat stripped of the opportunity of a community school where we can take pride in, instead we are expected to think of all schools in the county as our community. We don't have the reassurances (like you did) that our children will be at the same school, the same schedule, and their sibling will be there too. If it were just growth, that would be one thing, but it is not. The"animosity" at the ITB crowd is not aimed at you; it is aimed at the elite power brokers in this town who have protected and shielded the prosperous parts of that area from what the rest of Wake county (rich and poor) has to endure. Not only that, the districts are gerrymandered so ITB has a bigger say so in the BoE despite having a smaller percent of students. I am sure read this blog and even step in occasionally. Politicians also read this board occasionally. A 5 minute speech to the BoE rarely changes anything. Most of us have tried to work with the BoE and have been ignored or our views discarded without even considering them. So how do you want us to work together if we don't have a true voice in the matter?
Ummmm
Sat, 12/06/2008 - 11:23 — Forget_not_the_...Jane does not have a distorted view VOR, she is on our side. She does not support MYR, she feels Broughton should lose its magnet status and that the program should go to a more needy school.
She just has the benefit of living ITB and sometimes I wonder if I could do it again, if I wouldn't have moved there with my young children a decade ago and saved myself and them a ton of pain and headaches.
I know you are angry, but don't take it out on Jane. She is not Del Burns, or Bev Clark, or the power brokers. She is a parent just like we are, just one in a better situation.
We need more Janes pulling for us than against us.