Harsh words are being exchanged over a new campaign mailer from Democrat Steve Rao that blasts Republican Commissioner Tony Gurley over his election as chairman and how he reacted when Commissioner Stan Norwalk asked for a recess for health reasons.
In the mailer, Rao questions Gurley's leadership for taking advantage of Betty Lou Ward's unexcused departure for a potty break last December to be elected chairman. Rao also accuses Gurley of denying Commissioner Stan Norwalk his insulin by voting against recessing the lengthy meeting.
Gurley argues that Rao's campaign is lying about him denying Norwalk insulin. He also accused Rao of engaging in negative campaigning.
"Tony Gurley not only used a parliamentary trick when his colleague went to the bathroom to become Chairman, but he was the only Commissioner to vote against taking a recess after 10 hours to allow another Commissioner to receive his insulin shot, and Mr. Gurley is a pharmacist," says Rao's mailer. "Denying someone with diabetes insulin and waiting for a colleague to go to the bathroom to take a vote. What kind of leadership is that?"
The mailer cites the minutes of the meeting as its source.
As you guys may recall, it was around 2 a.m. during the marathon meeting when Norwalk raised concerns about not having had his insulin shot. The meeting was deadlocked as the board kept voting 3-3 over naming Ward or Paul Coble as vice chair.
Gurley said today the ad is lying in stating he denied Norwalk insulin. He points to how he offered to have someone go to an all-night pharmacy to get some insulin.
Gurley said he did not vote against the recess to deny the insulin shot. He said he had voted no because Norwalk declined to skip the meeting if Harold Webb, whose absence resulted in the unusual events, was there after they resumed.
Gurley reiterated his charge from December that Norwalk was using a political ploy to call for the recess. He said Norwalk only wanted to delay the meeting so that they could get Webb to attend in hopes of either reversing the election of chairman or to get Ward named vice chair.
Ultimately, the board voted 5-1 to recess when the other Republicans backed the motion. Webb attended two days later and, after Democrats questioned the legitimacy of Gurley's election, wound up electing Ward as vice chair.
Gurley accused Rao of going back on his word of not launching a negative campaign.
But Perry Woods, Rao's campaign advisor, said the mailer isn't negative because it's "completely factual" and talking about Gurley's record.
UPDATE
Here's an official statement from Gurley:
I am shocked and disappointed in the recent direct mail pieces sent by the Democratic Party and my Democratic opponent Steve Rao. Until now the campaign has been civilized and focused on the important issues facing the County Commissioners and Wake County. Now, they have taken it not to the gutter but in their own words to “the potty”.
My opponent and the Wake County Democratic Party have accused me and my fellow Republican candidates for the Wake County Commission of things that we have no control over when it comes to the public school system. We do not set policy! The role of the Wake County Commission Is to provide the financial resources necessary to build, maintain and renovate schools so that our children have safe facilities that are conducive to learning.
And when it comes to setting policy for the Wake County school system, we ought to ask my opponent about his support of the Republican members of the school board who were elected last year. He must agree with something they did or said.
And shame on him for lying in his direct mail saying that I denied a fellow Commissioner time to take his insulin and insulting my profession as a Pharmacist. I did no such thing. That is about as crude as it gets when it comes to politics.
I have served the people of Wake County for the past 25 years as a Pharmacist. And for the past year I have traveled across North Carolina to attend free dental clinics that serve more than 500 to 600 people. I provide free antibiotics to the people who attend these clinics. This is one way I give back to the people of our great state.
Over the past eight years I have worked hard to focus on the issues important to the people of Wake County. Those issues include fiscal responsibility, job creation and economic development, adequate funding of our school system, public safety programs, Sheriff's Department, Human Services, and Parks and Recreation. I have worked to keep Wake County's property taxes low, and I am pleased to say that Wake County has one of the lowest tax rates of any major county in North Carolina.
My opponent needs to understand the role of a Wake County Commissioner.
I am proud of my record as a Wake County Commissioner, and I look forward to serving the people of Wake County for another four years.

Comments
Rao is a liar and apparently
Sat, 10/30/2010 - 10:58 — woodstockRao is a liar and apparently will say anything in the desperate hope of being elected... it is rather disgusting how he paints his follow extreme left-wing democrats Betty Lou Ward and Stan Norwalk as old doddering fools. I don't support them -- at all -- but I don't agree with Rao that they are incapable of handling their own needs and responsibilities. They seem as lucid as any other extreme leftist.
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Wed, 10/27/2010 - 09:16 — SideburnsAre Rao's children in magnets? Just curious.
Schools
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 17:41 — jgegbgmgHey Sideburns - What Wake County Schools did Gurley's kids go to? You seem to be worrying about where Rao's children go !
After Mr. Gurley wins easily next week
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 20:57 — FSandYOUmaybe we can ask him.
FSandYOU
Thu, 10/28/2010 - 10:38 — jgegbgmgWhere in the world did you come from - The question was to Sideburns - Looks like you make it a habit of butting in - That's all the blogs need is another "KNOW-IT-ALL" !!!!!
don't be too sure
Thu, 10/28/2010 - 12:12 — Dove314Don't be too sure that this poster isn't just an existing poster using a new moniker.
I always worry when sideburn
Thu, 10/28/2010 - 10:50 — user12345I always worry when sideburn asks about people's kids and where they go to school and what she is going to do with that information ...
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Thu, 10/28/2010 - 11:03 — SideburnsHuh? I didn't ask where they attend school.
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Thu, 10/28/2010 - 10:42 — SideburnsI know where Gurley's kids go to school. I didn't know about Rao's. It was just a question and jenman answered. Thanks, jenman.
They are in year round
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 10:45 — jenmanThey are in year round school. That's what he said at the WSCA forum.
I often wonder.....if an
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 06:35 — willynillyI often wonder.....if an informed and net savy family are looking to move to the WCPSS area......what would they think? Reading all this. I know the WCPSS pay certain people to post here and to read. I have to think the FEDS are doing the same thing. It makes me think about the question...."If aliens are watching our TV shows to get to know us....what must they think?" LOL
"I know WCPSS pay certain people to post here"
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 10:45 — festus"I know the WCPSS pay certain people to post here and to read."
Please prove this outrageous accusation. Show us the money trail. This is a really slanderous statement. Who do you accuse and what is your evidence?
I don't know, but if a
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 07:25 — danofncI don't know, but if a prospective WCPSS teacher reads your posts I bet they wouldn't apply for a job.
I'd assume that there are WCPSS employees that post here, but I'm skeptical of your assertion that there are people who are paid to come here and push the company line.
If I hadn't encountered a
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 11:26 — HJ2ss2If I hadn't encountered a certain principal and learned (first hand) how the system operates, I too would be skeptical of willy's postings. I've generally kept a low profile and in a 30 year career have never had any conflict with administration. In fact, I was always supported by administration until I was identified as the "bad object" by a psychologically disturbed administrator in Wake County. What happened to me was so bizarre that it seemed surreal. As others observed what was happening to my career, after incurring the wrath of one person, they began sharing some of their experiences with me.
Given my personal experience, information posted by willy is feasible.
addendum
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 20:13 — HJ2ss2I've also noticed that when I introduce the topic of being forced to resign, people from the school system become very uncomfortable. I would think that if I were an inferior employee, they would have no problem telling me what I did wrong. I certainly am open to it, in fact, I have asked but no one will tell me. My understanding was that it was because (I) "you talked about me" (a principal) and the "entire PE department was so angry that they didn't want to talk with" (me). (not true)
Probably TMI, but it's just for clarification of my allegations. I can't believe this happened either (for anyone who doubts my information). So, I ask again: What kind of school system allows this to happen and what might they may they do to students and parents? ( I know the answer to that.)
"I will not sit here and put
Tue, 10/26/2010 - 20:59 — WhalerCane"I will not sit here and put Mr. Norwalk at risk," said County Commissioner Paul Coble, who along with Commissioner Betty Lou Ward are vying to be named vice chairman.
That is a direct quote from none other than Paul Coble in the N&O on 12/08/2009 before he voted with the majority 5-1 to take a recess after a 10 hour meeting so Stan Norwalk could get insulin. Mr. Gurley was the 1 vote against a recess.
As to language going to 'the potty', that is not Mr. Rao's language, but again a direct quote from the a N&O headline describing Mr. Gurley's power grab to become Chair. In fact it was the headline of this blog on 12/09/2009.
Unlike Republican mail accusing Democrats of wanting to unleash death row inmates into our neighborhoods, witch is a complete lie, this mail is truthful and documented to be accurate. Check N&O or CC minutes/video surrounding the 12/7/09 meeting.
As documented by Stan Mr. Gurley voted for MYR before he opposed it.
He campaigned against a tax increase before he voted for one, and he is doing it again. He and the other Republicans continue to campaign against any new taxes, but in forums all of them have acknowledged that to build the 33 needed schools over the next ten years will take a tax increase whether a bond passes or not.
Joe,
We did not get permission to use, nor did we have too because it is public domain and we are not attempting to profit, aka, put money in our pockets through it's use.
As to Mr. Gurley's assertion
Tue, 10/26/2010 - 22:20 — WhalerCaneAs to Mr. Gurley's assertion that he wanted to send out to an all night pharmacy to get Mr. Norwalk insulin after 10 hours, did he expect Mr. Norwalk to inject himself at the Commission table, because obviously if he went to the bathroom to do it, we know what would have happend.
Point. Set. Match.
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 08:48 — fiveblindmiceOnly if he 'forgets' to move
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 08:57 — loriacOnly if he 'forgets' to move for a recess.... But , he's not a newbie and I'm sure he knows all the rules well, so that would never happen, right?
But the problem in the first
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 09:08 — virginiadareBut the problem in the first place was that Gurley would not grant him a recess!!!!
No,this is about the
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 19:52 — loriacNo,this is about the bathroom incident...
Err...
Tue, 10/26/2010 - 22:16 — Bob_SconceWe did not get permission to use, nor did we have too because it is public domain and we are not attempting to profit, aka, put money in our pockets through it's use.
I think the N&O's lawyers would disagree with you. Heck, Fox News just sued somebody for using their video in a campaign ad. It may be fair use, but it's certainly NOT public domain.
BTW... As a Republican who was fairly impressed by Rao at last week's debate, this ad makes me less likely to vote for him. Thursday, he struck me as an outsider, a businessman with a great resume, who could be above the board politics. Now, with that ad, he's clearly chest-deep in politics. That outsider-ness is why I was considering him, but if I have to choose between a Republican pitbull and a Democrat pitbull, I'll choose the GOP. (And that's why there's no way Nichols would get my vote.)
First Bob, let me say thank
Tue, 10/26/2010 - 23:50 — WhalerCaneFirst Bob, let me say thank you for using your name. I do not usually agree with you, but your posts are rational and civil and I appreciate that.
As I am not an attorney, I could easily have confused 'fair use' and 'public domain' but taking a picture of their blog on a home computer and quoting them directly in a political communication would be a long stretch for any copyright infringement. Instead of sending their lawyers after me, the N&O has now posted it in their own blog, which is for profit.
Steve Rao is 'an outsider, a businessman with a great resume' who is anxious to work across the isle and take advantage of the large amount of talent we have in this community to find solutions. This ad does not attack Mr. Gurley for being a Repbulican but is questioning his leadership style based on the record. This is politics and a campaign and I advised Mr. Rao I'm the 'Democratic Pitbull', not Steve Rao. :-)
As to Mr. Nichols, while serving on the County Commission he was a consensus builder, not a partisan pit bull. That is the main difference in his and Mr. Coble's leadership style, but I understand your point.
Respectfully,
Perry
Last year when Mr. Rao made
Tue, 10/26/2010 - 22:42 — CaryCurmudgeonLast year when Mr. Rao made his contribution to WSCA he was registered as Unaffiliated. He would have earned a lot of respect from me if he hadn't changed course, re-registered as a Dem, and recanted his support of neighborhood schools. Gurley could have skewered him on this flip-flop but chose not to.
Hard to run as an unaffiliated
Tue, 10/26/2010 - 23:53 — WhalerCaneDid you loose respect for Mr. Tedesco when he recanted support for neighborhood schools. After all he said we can't really have them because some schools would be under utilized and some would be overcrowded.
Steve is the only candidate or Commissioner with kids in Wake County Schools. He gave to WSCA because like many, he had concerns about re-assignments, but he never stated support for segreated high poverty schools.
Perry, I have a huge amount
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 11:31 — CaryCurmudgeonPerry,
I have a huge amount of respect for Tedesco. You have voiced some positive opinions on John, Danny Coleman has been supportive, as have several Democratic Wake County Mayors.
One of the most attractive parts of his zone based approach was the opportunity to reduce the number of high-poverty schools.
"Neighborhood schools" mean the school that is reasonably closest. WEP fabricated a bunch of studies about over/under-utilization of schools, but these were not based on a reasonable set of assumptions.
Chris Malone, Deborah Prickett and Debra Goldman are the only 3 school board members that have kids in the school system, do you believe that makes them more qualified to serve?
Joe,I was responding to the
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 14:05 — WhalerCaneJoe,
I was responding to the statement from you that you had lost respect for Steve because he recanted his support of neighborhood schools.
John T. has said directly we can not have 'neighborhood schools' because some would be over crowded and some would be under utilized. What Steve has said is no different than that. He continues to express concern about re-assignments, but that it would be a mistake to act rashly and create high poverty schools. I believe you profess you do not want those either.
Mr. Rao and Jack both have indicated an openess to controlled choice and a zone approach, but that what we must have a plan and understanding of costs and impacts before we try to implement it, and that for any plan to be successful in needs to be developed by consensus, otherwise we will never be able to pass a school bond to build schools for the 60,000 plus new kids that will come into the system over the next 10 years.
The zone approach is off the
Sat, 10/30/2010 - 11:06 — woodstockThe zone approach is off the table thanks to the irrational behavior of Debra Goldman. I don't understand why anyone is still moving with the Alves charade. Nothing significant in terms of student assignments or a move away from the failed and discriminatory status quo will occur until McLaurin-Meeker, Morrison and Hill are voted out next year and replaced with responsible folks who respect the will of Wake County voters.
Perry, I didn't say I "lost
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 14:09 — CaryCurmudgeonPerry,
I didn't say I "lost respect" for Mr. Rao, I said that he had missed an opportunity to earn my respect. I still respect anyone who is willing to go through the meat-grinder of running for public office.
Mr. Rao, Mr. Nichols and any other candidates would best win my support by saying they will not stick their nose into the school board assignment discussion. I think I have been consistent with that.
Chris Malone, Deborah
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 11:55 — user12345Chris Malone, Deborah Prickett and Debra Goldman are the only 3 school board members that have kids in the school system, do you believe that makes them more qualified to serve?
I thought CM kids were in a charter school ... JT/RM don't have kids ...so, we can only depend on DP and DG to articulate the pain parents feel when WCPSS makes a mistake. It is not like JT is unqualified without kids ... he just needs to do more listening and learning to get up to speed.
FYI Charter schools are
Sat, 10/30/2010 - 11:12 — woodstockFYI Charter schools are public schools. And, frankly, I think we need to start looking at our school "system" as all the academic options available to the children in Wake County, including all public and private schools. It should be about education, not who is providing the education. With vouchers, we would truely have a coordinated system where parents and children would not be so restricted in terms of educational options.
Why not just level the
Sat, 10/30/2010 - 12:14 — user12345Why not just level the playing field ... let public schools dump the F&Rs, SE, LEP, transportation, lunch room, auditorium, fields, sports programs, parking lots, county reporting, state mandates, etc?
Perry, the goal of
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 11:15 — jenmanPerry, the goal of 'neighborhood' or community schools was never about every child going to his or her absolute closest school. That's how your 'side' chose to portray it, but that was never how it was meant.
Jen, The goal of the
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 14:07 — WhalerCaneJen,
The goal of the diversity policy was never about hiding problems, but that is how you and others have chosen to portray it. :-)
What was it about then? It
Sat, 10/30/2010 - 11:15 — woodstockWhat was it about then? It certainly was not about education or achievement; the same kids are succeeding and the same kids are failing as they were 40 years ago ...only the gap has widened since then.
No.
Thu, 10/28/2010 - 00:35 — SDR256No, that was how it panned out. And the truth came out.
So sorry, you can't put Pandora back in the box. Spin, spin, spin it. Doesn't matter. We know what the story was 3 years ago - certain words and certain concepts (like achievement!) should not be spoken of. We all experienced it. Thank goodness at least we're past that ideological rigidity.
In contrast, all of this about what 'might' happen with a proposed plan is conjecture about the future.
Kind of like
Thu, 10/28/2010 - 10:53 — Dove314Kind of like the already rampant hammering of Alves' plan?
Can I ask a question -- for months, many posts have hammered the point that lbelow expected achievement is not synonymous with poor or non-white ethnicity. So why is it now synonymous?
So...
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 16:32 — Bob_SconceI agree that it probably was not the original intent, but the Chamber of Commerce's marketing efforts depended on their being hidden. Remember "There are no bad schools in Wake County" (or whatever the slogan was)? If that slogan was ever true, it was only because the poor-performing students were scattered to schools across the district.
So, I suggest that hiding those problems was a reason for KEEPING the diversity policy, even if it was never the reason for starting it. After all, the Chamber was only ever after the appearance -- as long as no individual school performed too poorly, they didn't really care about the poor students in those schools.
That's nothing new -- there are plenty of government programs which are started for good reasons, and then continued for bad ones once you get an entrenched interest that benefits from the program.
Isn't NCLB all about schools
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 18:43 — user12345Isn't NCLB all about schools and not individuals? Bad schools get closed and teachers get fired, right? So, you have 160 schools ... of course it is best to educate kids but if you don't have the money, plan b is to at least not let any of your schools be closed down right? Concentrating too may low performing kids in say 10 schools which would be closed leavings you with 150 to crowd kids into would be a disaster. Education in Wake Co. is all about day to day survival on meager rations. Just making it another day without having the federal or state authorities on your back is a success.
So...
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 20:55 — Bob_SconceNCLB is actually about subgroups of students. IIRC, it doesn't really matter if a school is failing a subgroup of 15 poor students or a subgroup of 150 poor students -- the penalties will be the same.
Touche, Perry. :-)
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 15:46 — jenmanTouche, Perry. :-)
TY.
Fri, 10/29/2010 - 01:26 — WhalerCaneI really do want to find a third way with no sides. I hear we don't want to copy Charlotte, but nothing has convinced me that we are not going exactly down that path. I in no way beleive we can continue the old policy, but desperately want an alternative that does not lead to a completely economically and ultimately racially segreageted system because we know that costs more, and doesn't work.
Thanks again for your passion and concern.
Yet another myopic
Sat, 10/30/2010 - 11:21 — woodstockYet another myopic NC-centric perspective. There is a whole world out there and folks like you insist on wearing blinders and limiting the discussion to what is happening in two counties... in a state not known for it educational prowess.
There was certainly no
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 13:27 — danofncThere was certainly no mention of assignment based on a lottery with base schools during the elections.
Perry, the goal of
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 12:02 — user12345Perry, the goal of 'neighborhood' or community schools was never about every child going to his or her absolute closest school. That's how your 'side' chose to portray it, but that was never how it was meant.
Jenman ... I don't think your thoughts are universal. Many, many people think they voted to get their neighborhood into the school that is closest like in the 1950's. Your team could clear up the confusion by passing resolutions banning the words "neighborhood school" and only allowing "community school" be used, resolve that it is understood not everyone is going to attend the closest school and finally resolve what the term "community" school means. Doing all that would be honest, set the right expectations and clear up confusion.
Kids in the School System?
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 05:12 — MissVWhy is Mr. Rao having children in the public school system any more important than commissioners/candidates whose children have graduated? And yes, he could have run as an Independent, and sacrificed money from the Democratic Party.
Venita, Did you run as an
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 13:53 — WhalerCaneVenita,
Did you run as an Independent? Can you name the last Independent who won a County Commission race here. Didn't think so.
Steve is correct...
Tue, 10/26/2010 - 20:20 — stan_norwalkThe minutes and video tape tell the story. The events were not planned or discussed beforehand as some have claimed.
Commissioner Gurley us simply changing the subject to avoid the events which reflect negatively on him.
His comment that the BOC does not make policy for WCPSS is an oversimplification. As a result of underfunding school construction by the BOC for years, the BOE at the time was cornered into YRS.
In 2006, during the bond campaign, Commissioner Gurley supported YRS. He said:
"I support converting a majority of them (to YRS). I believe the standard schedule in Wake County should be year-round. I would hope that we are able to keep a few elementary and middle schools on the standard schedule so that those parents who can't adjust to the year-round schedule would still have an option."
At a later date, after the opposition to YRS erupted, he changed his mind. I recall him saying that he didn't like how the BOE administered the initiative.
As a result of underfunding
Wed, 10/27/2010 - 19:07 — jenmanThe BOE was cornered into YRS?
Tue, 10/26/2010 - 21:32 — FSandYOUWhat a total load of garbage that is. But, coming from you I would expect nothing less. You have slammed parents in Wake County since the day you lucked into office. I and many others can't wait for your attempt to retain your seat because we, those slammed parents, are not going to allow you the chance to slam us any longer once that day comes.
Is your campaign manager's name Steve? Funny, I thought it was Perry.