Staying with the Lacy to Stough moves

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lacymom--but was Stough in such sad shape before that proposed move? Looking at the previous years NC Report cards it doesn't seem so.

In 05-06, the difference between Lacy and Stough wasn't that great. Certainly not enough to warrant fears of being sent to a 'bad' school. That year, 93.3% of Lacy's NED kids passed both EOGs. 89% of Stough's did. 58.2% of Lacy's ED kids passed, 59.7% of Stough's did. Overall, 84.2% of Lacy's students passed, 79.9% of Stough's did. Lacy had an F&R of 24% that year, Stough's was 31%.

Why are so many wealthy families leaving Stough? Because the following year Stough's F&R went to 41% and has climbed every year since. People start leaving when the F&R goes up that high. If the nodes originally slated to attend Stough in that move had gone there, I don't think Stough would be in the shape its in now. Now the school system is left with two schools about 2 miles from each other with very different demographics and test scores. All because some families didn't want to change schools in the first place.

That's fine--I understand not wanting to change schools. But something's got to give and now it has. You can thank them for the mess you're in now I guess.

Here is what I know about the situation:

The 2006 reassignment plan has students being moved from Stough to help fill Brier Creek when it opens.

Stough has to get new students from somewhere so GM proposes moving several nodes from Lacy to Stough.

Lacy parents complain and get most of their nodes dropped from the plan. Instead of 170-something students, its now 40 something getting moved.

The remaining Lacy parents scheduled to move to Stough suggest moving kids from Brooks instead.

I don't think that this is about Stough trying to 'tear apart' Lacy. When a new school opens, shifts must be made. For whatever reason (political pressure?), the majority of the Lacy nodes were removed from the plan. This left Stough underenrolled. Why is it wrong for Stough to ask for backfill of non-F&R nodes when they were left with a higher F&R after the opening of Brier Creek?

I understand that those families then and now don't want to leave their school. But we can't open new schools without having a 'chain reaction' of moves. Stough is less than 2 miles away from Lacy. Why should Lacy remain untouched when it comes to these sorts of reassignments?

Like I said, I understand not wanting to move. But what is WCPSS supposed to do when they open a new school? There *have* to be *some* shifts and the Lacy to Stough one in 2006 was not unreasonable. Their base areas are adjacent and the schools are very close to each other. Lacy nodes weren't being bused out just so the F&R could be raised, which happens frequently in far flung schools.

Bromhal -

That's absolutely right. After the grandfathering, you're talking about 30-35 kids.

Stough parents have lobbied extensively for this. It's not about the numbers. God knows it's not about the children. Based on the comments of virtually every Stough speaker at the public hearing in Wendell, it's about "if we had to go, you should too". It was absolutely unbelievable. One after the other they stood up and told the audience what a great school Stough is (and wow, that sure shows in their abysmal test scores), and in the same speech said how they needed our kids.

If Stough was so great, grown people would not be lobbying and attending a public hearing to take other people's children out of a neighborhood school they love. And if that's representative of a Stough parent, then they made the case for a number of us that night. Leaving there the one thing we agreed on was that no matter where our kids go, it won't be Stough.

I wish Stough luck rebuilding their school. And I hope they one day see the wisdom that it won't happen by tearing apart another.

Ultimately, Stough loses here if indeed the plan is approved because their LI numbers will be marginally if any improved next year. By the time the students in these nodes are grandfathered back to Lacy, magneted out of Stough, or choose another alternative (after all, they will be Stough base nodes then so when in Rome...), the percentages won't look like any of that data. Maybe Bev can have lunch out at SAS again after that to get some more data analysis help because Stough will be back at the Board asking for more relief next year, you can bet money on it.

I don't think anybody said that all kids in private school were 'pulled out' of public school. But I think that the number of parents pulling their kids out is increasing. I agree that it would be interesting to see the numbers.

I can see the being more involved thing in the private schools if you look at it from a time committment thing. In terms of transportation & some of the volunteer work that is required at various private schools and charters. Doesn't mean that they care more about their kids. But I can see where people who are making an effort to look at other options are probably more involved/interested in their childrens' education as a whole than the rest of us are as a whole. People who don't care at all and view school as just something their kids have to do/day care are in that group with the rest of us as a whole.

Thanks Keung. I agree that some of those parents are probably hoping they get dropped in the meantime. I can see their point about going to the modular and then the perm building. Doesn't seem to be an unreasonable request.

No parent wants their children moved like pawns in order to facilitate Chuck's Grande Design. You can't present logic to a Master on a Quest.

No where else in this country do parents have to ( or would they ) put up with such contortions.

When your told the truth, that this scheme is not about Growth but Diversity, can you not understand that? Or don't you want to believe it?

Honesty, facts, good intentions will get you NO WHERE with this BOE. They are lead by the nose by Dr Del and his henchman Chuck D.

Civil disobedience or cutting off their funds are the only answers I can offer. Or going private, or moving out. You decide.