Did you know that you could bypass the normal paperwork and procedure for getting a student transfer in Wake County by appealing directly to the superintendent?
As noted in today's article, that's evidently what school board vice chairwoman Debra Goldman's family did to get their daughter transferred, with bus service provided. She's one of only 15 students in all of Wake County who are attending their current school based on an "administrative transfer" approved by the superintendent.
Michael Evans, Wake's chief communications officer, said that then-interim Superintendent Donna Hargens had approved in January a verbal request from the parent at Goldman's address in Cary to transfer to Davis Drive Middle School. (He worded it that way without saying Goldman's name due to privacy rules.)
Until then, Goldman's daughter had been a magnet student at Martin Middle School. Pulling out of Martin meant that she would normally have gone to her base school, which is West Cary Middle. That schooli is closer than Davis Drive.
Speaking for Hargens, Evans said there were "extenuating circumstances" for approving the transfer to Davis Drive and that it was within board policy, He cited privacy rules for not saying why it was approved.
The transfer was granted under Section B(5) of the transfer policy which says "the Superintendent or designee may administratively assign a student to any school in the system when the Superintendent or designee determines that such action is in the best interest of the student and schools affected, and that such action would not contravene the overall intent of the Board’s school assignment policies."
Unlike a normal transfer request, Evans said there's no paperwork that has to be filed.
Also unlike a regular transfer request, Evans said administrative transfers come with transportation.
Wake extended an existing bus route for Davis Drive that primarily serves the area right around the school. The bus stops directly in front of Goldman's house as the first stop in the morning. According to Google Maps, the stop is between 5.2 and 6.5 miles from the next stop.
Evans said that only one student is picked up at the stop at Goldman's address.
In addition, Evans confirmed that then Superintendent Del Burns had approved a request in January 2010 for a bus stop for Martin Middle in front of Goldman's address. It's 0.3 miles from one stop and 0.4 miles from another one on the route.
Evans said that 2010 request was also within board procedure.
In what could be a rare instance, both Allison Backhouse and Yevonne Brannon agreed on an issue. They said that approving Goldman's request looked fishy.
"One of the things that the public wants to feel is that everything is transparent," said Brannon, chairwoman of the Great Schools in Wake Coalition. "No matter what the circumstances, whether it’s boards meeting privately or board members making private requests for transfers, that’s not transparent."
Goldman did not return requests for comment Friday.

Comments
Update
Sat, 04/02/2011 - 04:01 — cornettoWhen the article came out in the News & Observer mid-March about the apparent abuse of power by Ms. Goldman, I wrote my thoughts in emails to Ms. Goldman, members of the School Board, Superintendent and Michael Evans. I've been out of the country a couple of weeks so I wanted an update on what (if anything) has been done. Copy of email below:
I am relatively new to this area but I have been following the Wake County School Board activities for the past year so I am familiar with the issues. While I don't have children in the system, in a few years my grandchildren will enter school so I am interested in the school system.
In perspective
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 07:35 — Voice_of_Reason_This is a lot to do about nothing. Even if Goldman used her influence to her advantage, SO WHAT! It is not like she is getting paid alot for what she does. A McDonald's cashier gets paid more. Do the rest of you have any idea how many perks other leaders in both corporate and public jobs get. Willy Nilly said it all, if she was homeless, she'd get to pick the school.
Enjoy your "gotcha politics", then enjoy the low caliber politicians you get to fill the positions. As it is, I don't know why anyone decent would want a BOE job unless they are liberal so they can social experiment with our children. All I can say is my hat is off to the conservatives for their dedication. The "anal exam" that the press and other liberal extremist groups (and now others with a vendetta) have given the conservative members on every decision or breath they take for this low pay, high responsibility, and high stress job is apalling.
NOBODY WINS HERE!
If no law was broken, SO WHAT ! , and I don't even like Goldman because of her flip-flop after the election.
This is a lot to do about
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 08:16 — HJ2ss2This is a lot to do about nothing. I've been thinking about how much energy and anger went in to this discussion. I find it interesting that the information posted by Willy and I is looked upon as whining. Seems to be a lot of whining going on regarding this subject and no one even lost their career over it,
Has anyone ever thought of taking the information shared by Willy and I, piecing it together with your own knowledge, experiences, suspicions, etc...and forming a big picture of what is really going on in the system?
I know that I am the only one who can do anything about my situation. I have no delusions about anyone on the blog coming to my rescue and I would suspect Willy doesn't either.
Wasn't one of you going to
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 09:31 — jenmanWasn't one of you going to put your info on a blog or other website? I'm interested in seeing more of what you're talking about but it just gets confusing here with cloaked terms. I hate playing guessing games--I have to do that every day at 4:00 when my kid comes home and asks me "what's for dinner tonight?".
It wasn't me. I'm
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 12:09 — HJ2ss2It wasn't me. I'm technologically impaired, so it must have been Willy.
I apologize for the lack of clarity in my posts. It's hard to "put the big picture" together if the message is not clear. Thanks for your honest and neutral (not hostile) response.
I also realize a lot of what we say is pretty unbelievable.
What the...? We will get
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 07:53 — woodstockWhat the...? We will get "low calibur politicians" if we hold elected officials to high standards and expect them the play by the same rules the rest of us have to? Is that really what you meant to say?
Was the law broken?
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 08:29 — Voice_of_Reason_Otherwise this is not a big deal. Or even a morale digression. It was only asking of a favor. Dr. Burn's & Co. could of said no. If they did and she reacted to that, that would of been serious; not this. I've been around US Congressman and Senators, you should see the perks they get; this is a gnat.
BTW, quote me right "low caliber politicians", not "...calibur..."
LOL Thanks for the
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 13:02 — woodstockLOL Thanks for the suggestion. In the future, I will judge what is right and ethical by whether or not it is legal.
Speaking of legal… the article said that the door-to-door transportation provided to the out-of-zone school was a school bus that had to go 5-6 mile out of its way to pick up the student. That is a round trip of 10-12 miles a day for 180 days. That’s an extra 1,800 to 2,160 miles travel over a year for one student. What is that expense-wise when you factor in fuel and wear and tear on a county vehicle? Legal or not, it is not right.
BTW, what does Burns have to do with this? He was long gone when this occured.
Burns
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 18:36 — Voice_of_Reason_"....In addition, Evans confirmed that then Superintendent Del Burns had approved a request in January 2010 for a bus stop for Martin Middle in front of Goldman's address....."
Did I miss something?
And wasn't it from a magnet school? I thought magnet schools get out of zone transport anyway. Was the magnet school closer? BTW- I didn't say it was ethical, I said it wasn't such a big deal IMHO.
It is still an issue of what pressure
Wed, 03/16/2011 - 09:19 — Voice_of_Reason_If she didn't put pressure on them, then if you want to complain about someone, blame the WCPSS employee that approved the transportation. If pressure was put by Goldman, you have a big issue. Goldman would be abusing her office. As far as transportion costs, I personally think families that can afford it, should pay for it...and that goes for everyone that uses it. I think this is a way to save money for education. But that's me.
Families that can afford transportation pay for it
Wed, 03/16/2011 - 09:57 — FSandYOUWhat a fabulous idea!
I am not sure it is
Wed, 03/16/2011 - 10:59 — woodstockI am not sure it is "fabulous,"as families already "pay for it"... it is not free as some may think since it is funded through tax dollars, of course. HOWEVER, it is something to consider if it would advance academics in the classroom.
Not really
Wed, 03/16/2011 - 19:18 — Voice_of_Reason_The taxpayers do pay for it, but all but the very richest families even pay for the education of their child. (that is, if that child goes to public school). All families are subsidized for their children's education by the taxpayers. All children have the right to a free education through high school. I don't know where free transportation is written as a right. It isn't in the NC or US Constitution.
The school in question is
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 21:13 — woodstockThe school in question is Davis Drive.
I thought I remember reading
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 18:51 — jenmanI thought I remember reading where Burns approved a transfer to Martin along with the bus stop in front of her house. Not sure which school she transferred from.
Then the Hargens approved transfer was from Martin to Davis Drive, along with the bus stop.
TO Martin?
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:16 — magnetParentAccording to this N&O article in July 2009, she had her daughter already assigned to Martin:
"Goldman has a daughter entering Martin Middle School in Raleigh and a son at Cary High School. "
http://blogs.newsobserver.com/wakeed/debra-goldman-files-for-district-9-school-board-seat
As for the transportation to Martin, it is listed as the GT Magnet option for her node and, I believe, has neighborhood bus pickup provided. I see nothing wrong with that bus stopping in front of her house. If it was not a magnet option for her node, then there would be cause to complain.
Sorry about that--I was
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 21:21 — jenmanSorry about that--I was wrong. It wasn't a transfer to Martin, it was the bus stop that Burns approved.
"In addition, Evans confirmed that then Superintendent Del Burns had approved a request in January 2010 for a bus stop for Martin Middle in front of Goldman's address. It's 0.3 miles from one stop and 0.4 miles from another one on the route."
Mrs. Backhouse
Mon, 03/14/2011 - 13:30 — valsparWhat (or quite possibly who) prompted you to inquire about the transfer?
133 comments
Mon, 03/14/2011 - 11:43 — SDR256I've been resisting, watching the number go up on the comments, because I have such mixed feelings about this topic. But the last one about 'picking teachers' finally was my tipping point. Certainly this is a disturbing topic and truly unfair and just plain dumb shortsightedness (egocentricity?) if all the suppositions are true. Regardless of the reasons, which may have been good ones, this was not handled well.
Its good that we know about it and if its true, it does raise my ire. (just in time for St. Patty's).
But its occurred to me that there is almost no way this child doesn't know all this turmoil on this topic is going on about this. How frightening for her. For that reason alone, I think that's enough, really. We all get it. It needs to be investigated. But this is a grown up argument. So, before this starts to spiral out of hand and get more and more personal - in the realm of this child - I'm gonna ask ya'll to reign it in. There has never been a topic on this blog that's been quite so closely personally related to one child in particular. Please be careful.
133 (134 now) is really enough to have explored the concerns, imho.
I'm gonna ask ya'll to reign
Mon, 03/14/2011 - 20:44 — woodstockI'm gonna ask ya'll to reign it in.
You cannot be serious. LOL You don't get to decide those things.
Abstract
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 16:46 — SDR256(oh for pete's sake) I realize that maybe your idea of me in the abstract may have colored your reading of my words as arrogant or demanding. Just as maybe my idea of the abstract character 'woodstock' makes your response here seem something akin to rabid. Let me clarify - I don't disagree with some of your points. I'm just SUGGESTING all MIGHT consider the child's perspective on the shark tank here.
Hmm, I have formed no "idea"
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:26 — woodstockHmm, I have formed no "idea" of you abstract or otherwise, so I am not even sure what you are getting at there. I was SUGGESTING that if you meant to ask others to consider the student ("child," as you put it) you would stick to that premise rather than condescendingly requesting that others "reign it in" as if we need your guidance in how we express ourselves.Also, it sounded just a bit like you did not like Goldman being called out for what many believe is a unethical and selfish abuse of power... an ongoing tendency of Goldman's that gets expressed in ways that are counter to achieving the goals of neighborhood schools an equitable distribution of academic offerings across the county.
As a follower of these blogs, I've noticed that you don't seem to have a problem expressing yourself in a manner of your choosing and I have yet to read where you were asked to reign it in. FYI: I usually look forward to you posts as I am normally inline with them and agree with much of what you have to say about most topics.
I like... no LOVE free speech and so I am particularly sensitive to those who seek to squelch it in any manner or form. I don't want anyone to reign it in. Things have a tendency to come to the surface when free expression is encouraged.
Ranting
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 21:33 — SDR256Lol! Holy cow, woodstock, you're getting really stoked up about this. Its almost - um - strangely - personal. (?) Apparently you're so in a twist that you're not reading what I'm saying at face value and just want to fight.
I have no problem with the issue coming out. You're wrong there, and if you go back and read my first post you'll see I say just that. And you're also right - I can be very passionate in my posts. No problem with others coloring outside the lines there either. Post away! Rant at will! Go for it. Its a blog. That's the democratic process at its best.
I've stated it several times now, so don't want to be boring for the rest of the audience. Here's a test - can you guess my gripe? (hint: not free speech, not finger pointing at goldman. Guess again!)
So...
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 17:44 — Bob_SconceIf you don't like squelched free speech, why don't you find out the name of the child that was repeatedly raped by the illegal immigrant mentioned in today's paper and post it whereever you can. Speech can have victims. If that victim is a public figure, I don't have much sympathy. But, when it's a child, I jump in.
I gotta ask -- any children of your own? I find that parents are for more protective of other people's kids than non-parents.
Did someone mention a child?
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 19:34 — woodstockDid someone mention a child? What are you talking about? Your desperation here seems to be ramping up a bit with your very disturbing and monumentally irrelevant example. What's the connection? Nevermind, I don't want to know.
Yes, me
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 21:35 — SDR256Yes, I spoke of a child and all of these posts are 'children' of my post. :D Do I see steam now?
Free association is fun, eh?
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:27 — woodstockFree association is fun, eh?
WINNING!!!!
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:13 — shank56Woodie,
YOU ARE WINNING!!!
Say hi to Charlie for us.
Hmm... there must be
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 20:27 — woodstockHmm... there must be something in the water making Goldman sympathizers crawl out of the woodwork. I find it all very interesting.
By the way, Sheen references are so last week.
OH I get it now.
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 21:41 — SDR256I posted a possibility that was subtly between the two polarities. I get it. Yes, I understand why that's hard to understand for some. It can be very uncomfortable if you are too rigidly aligned with one political party or the other. So glad I'm independent.
Political parties
Wed, 03/16/2011 - 06:57 — Voice_of_Reason_When you get outside the national level, you find a wider spectrum of views in the Republicans. States and local governments can pretty much do what they can afford within constitutional and legal bounds. It more ideology than parties at this level. There are also a lot of center right Dems that are fiscally conservative. There are also progressive Republicans. Rigid views are more personal than party.
I have no idea what you are
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 22:22 — woodstockI have no idea what you are talking about or what you get, but I am glad you are glad.
Clearly...
Mon, 03/14/2011 - 20:48 — Bob_SconceSomebody who doesn't know the difference between "ask" and "tell"
Even asking is bit too
Mon, 03/14/2011 - 20:58 — woodstockEven asking is a bit too arrogant for me... I think the posters here are perfectly capable of deciding for themselves what they want to do.
BTW The new politics at play here from WSCA folks -- and you -- are interesting.
Ok...
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 00:57 — Bob_SconceSo, that was a bit snarky of me. My apologies.
I haven't talked with any of the WSCA folks about this. As to 'new politics,' the new thing here is 'gotcha' politics involving a board member's child. That just rubs me raw.
I'm also worried about the effect this tempest in a teapot will have on future parents who might consider serving on the school board. Will every little departure of their children from the median be the subject of public debate? IEPs, for example, can require all sorts of unusual things -- everything from "don't punish my kid for that behavior, he literally cannot help it" to "my kid needs more time on the EOGs because he has a decoding issue" and "My kid needs to sit at the front of the room." If a parent of a kid with an IEP is elected to the school board, will we have the likes of cityofoaks567 posting speculation about the special treatment that kid needs? What parent is going to cotton to that?
I'm a little shocked that the N&O has gotten behind this story. I don't see anything on it at any of the TV stations.
"...the new thing here is
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 07:37 — woodstock"...the new thing here is 'gotcha' politics involving a board member's child."
This is where we differ... I don't see it as having to do with a child; in fact, there is no reason for the child to even be aware of this. It has to do with using one's power to influence processes and decisions that provide advantages that are not available to others. One poster who supported Goldman even suggested that favoritism comes with power and we should just acccept that. I will not accept that and doubt many others will either.
That a child is part of the story is the direct result of Goldman herself. She chose to involve her child in something that she had to know would be an issue. It is clear that she wanted to keep this quiet with no paper trail and only a verbal committment. Why didn't she use the normal process that every other parent in the county is told to use... and the only one, until now, that the public was even aware of?
I will give Goldman credit for one thing; we now know that Staples has nothing on WCPSS, there is indeed an Easy Button and we all can just make a verbal request to the Superintendent and get what we want.
You, on the other hand, are
Mon, 03/14/2011 - 21:33 — CaryCurmudgeonYou, on the other hand, are your normal pompous self. You've let your hatred for Goldman overcome any sense of pragmatism. Enjoy the low road, you have good company.
Easy Hoss... or is that Mr.
Mon, 03/14/2011 - 22:52 — woodstockEasy Hoss... or is that Mr. High Road? LOL I don't hate anyone... it is not an emotion I waste my time with. I just expect elected officials to stay true to their words and not manipulate and lie for their own selfish gain. For that reason I have no respect for Goldman.
As for being pragmatic, you seem to have a very odd sense of what that means. Maybe you can explain something to me. How do your repeated posts crtiticizing Margiotta -- who generally supports what you claim to support -- fit into your "high-road" pragmatism?
I didn't say I was Mr. High
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 09:45 — CaryCurmudgeonI didn't say I was Mr. High Road, but you're welcome to think so.
At one point or another I've been critical of every school board member, when I thought their actions were wrong. I've pointed out three areas where Margiotta (and some of the board majority) could do a better job:
1. Stop tolerating the childish behavior from the rabble at the school board meetings.
2. Stop feeding the media beast by meeting with lightning rod conservative organizations.
3. Find a way to work with Goldman, to the extent that's possible.
Here's the pragmatism: Despite my disappointment with Goldman, I can still recognize that the neighborhood schools movement is better off with her than if Lois Nixon had won election. Goldman is very unpredictable, but at least some of the time her votes are consistent with her campaign platform. Relentlessly pounding away at her character accomplishes nothing, unless you're hoping that she will resign under pressure. And if that happens, any progress on neighborhood schools stops.
So, what are you going to do if Mr. Tata's review concludes that no policies were violated? You going to add him to your attack list, after you just spent the past couple of months praising him?
We have another election coming up in seven months. Hopefully the one after that we can elect someone who is more stable than Goldman. In the meantime, we need to work with what we have, and it is pretty clear that Goldman does not respond to bludgeoning.
There's no "new politics" in WSCA, we are about putting our school system ahead of individual needs. Tell me how your character assassination of Goldman helps our schools.
How does criticizing board
Tue, 03/15/2011 - 12:27 — woodstockHow does criticizing board members who support your vision advance your cause? I don't get that. Goldman does not support the cause and is a hinderance to progress. In fact, she stopped progress in its tracks not once, but TWICE, so I would actually welcome a resignation from her. In December there will be more neighborhood-friendly candidates elected.. And, considering your steadfast pragmatism, I am sure you will support Margiotta's reelection.
As for Tata, I will continue to support him regardless of his decision. I don't sweat the details when I support someone's mission... you could learn something from that approach. The truth is I fully expect Tata to say no policies were violated... that is why Goldman put in the request; she's not stupid, just "unbalanced" and selfish.. Tata will not want to deal with the truth in this case and will want to move on. I can understand that... and Goldman will wiggle out of trouble once again... and until the next time.
Thank you SDR
Mon, 03/14/2011 - 13:39 — valsparSo well said, SDR. One has to figure the child is now suffering because of this inquiry and additional lashing, and obviously was suffering for a none of our business reason before. I have not read all the posts, but I wonder how much vindictiveness or prompting was involved, as Sideburns has been quite vocal regarding her distain for Goldman since she broke ranks in October, just like the rest of the majority. I posed a question to Sideburns that landed deep into the posts. I have reposted so it is at the top.
Whether the child feels
Mon, 03/14/2011 - 13:25 — HJ2ss2Whether the child feels frightened or entitled, it's just not right.
I read your posts and understand that, whatever your opinion, every parent who posts has the best interest of their child at heart. Whatever the argument du jour, the goal is the same, giving your child the best opportunity available. I believe that everyone agrees on that point. Having worked in the system, I've concluded that administration's priorities tend to be on their own careers, sometimes at the expense of students and parents who want what's best for their children. (not meant to be a blanket statement, there are some great administrators who have the best of intentions). I think, at least in the past, administration remained unchallenged because they kept a tight lid on what was going on at the top. Now that the system is becoming transparent, parents can see the deficits and are not happy. As long as everyone remains in conflict, there will be no improvement. It's going to require compromise on both sides.
Than again......I could be
Wed, 03/16/2011 - 09:00 — HJ2ss2Than again......I could be wrong.
You would also be interested to learn
Mon, 03/14/2011 - 08:58 — cityofoaks567that her daughter was able to hand pick her teachers before starting.
And....
Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:14 — Bob_SconceThat is clearly none of our business.
...
Mon, 03/14/2011 - 09:38 — cityofoaks567When you're a representative of the school board and you are supposed to be doing what is right and fair for the schools then things like that are OUR business.
but...
Mon, 03/14/2011 - 10:02 — Bob_SconceDecisions about how to best address a student's academic needs should not be public, regardless of who her parent is.
In any case, how do you know? You're just making idle gossip.
Trust me. It's not idle
Mon, 03/14/2011 - 10:18 — cityofoaks567Trust me. It's not idle gossip.
And, yes, TEACHERS should make the decision of where students go to suit their best interest. It is not appropriate for students to make that decision based on who's class their friend is in.
Trust?
Mon, 03/14/2011 - 10:36 — Bob_SconceI don't know you. You've been on this blog for all of 1.5 hours. You don't identify how you know this information. Unless you were in the meeting about which classes this girl was going to take, then you're just passing on second hand information. And that is the definition of 'idle gossip.'
There is at least some rational claim that switching schools was a matter of public concern -- the information was available, after all, via a public records request. This, though. Try to get a public records request on "information related to how the classes for student XX were chosen." You wouldn't get it because IT'S PRIVATE. and rightly so.
"Unless you were in the
Mon, 03/14/2011 - 11:37 — cityofoaks567"Unless you were in the meeting about which classes this girl was going to take..."