We're getting some more info on the people who were arrested for refusing to give up the podium at Tuesday's Wake County school board meeting.
In an article today in the Associated Baptist Press, four of the six people who were arrested are identified as members of Raleigh's Pullen Memorial Baptist Church. Pullen has been a hotbed of protest against the end of the diversity policy with the church's senior pastor, the Rev. Nancy Petty, having been arrested twice on trespassing charges at board meetings.
All three teens who were arrested are members of Pullen, including Seth Keel. It was Keel, 16, a Middle Creek High student, who launched the protest by refusing to leave the podium after his two minutes. He was soon joined at the microphone by the other five people.
Keel and his mother, Dr. Jill Hinton, wrote a letter to the editor that appeared last month in the liberal Independent weekly. It describes Keel's frustration about not being able to speak at the July 20 board meeting. The letter includes some of the remarks he wound up making Tuesday.
"A neighborhood school system will segregate schools based on socio-economic status and create unequal opportunities for learning," Keel said Tuesday. "It will also prohibit current and future students from benefiting from the diversity that was so important and relevant in my education."
UPDATE
Keel was interviewed Wednesday by WTVD. He tells the television station that he'll do whatever it takes to get the board to reinstate the diversity policy.
"Diversity is something that isn't just important to the minorities in Wake County, it's important to all of the students," Keel said. "There's a feeling that I have that the school board isn't listening to the students or the parents so I thought it was necessary to do what we did."
Hinton supported her son's actions.
"I think if anything it may be an asset for him in the future as far as where he wants to go and what he wants to do since he's willing to stand up for what he believes in," Hinton said.
Keel said you can expect more students and more protests at board meetings.
Hinton wrote a letter to the editor that appeared today, Thursday, in the N&O. In the letter, she praises Keel for his act of civil disobedience.
"Unlike the few who wish to repeal the diversity policy, he is able to see beyond his own interest to the interest of all students," Keel writes.

Comments
Court Appearance
Wed, 08/11/2010 - 20:39 — MissVAccording to the NC District court schedule Petty and Barber were due in court today and next week Aug. 20. Wonder why no report on what happened?
It's becuase they keep
Wed, 08/11/2010 - 23:10 — KeungHui (author)It's because they keep getting pushed back. Do you realize how many times the people arrested in March and June have had their court hearings rescheduled? What's also complicating things is they're trying to get the cases for Barber. Petty, Tyson and Williams consolidated into one case. We'll report when something actually happens.
We should have smelled that
Wed, 08/11/2010 - 18:25 — aquaman4life68We should have smelled that aroma from Pullen Memorial in that boardroom yesterday.
Perhaps this young man came
Wed, 08/11/2010 - 17:54 — CaryCurmudgeonPerhaps this young man came to his own conclusions. I hope so, because I would hate to think that a church pastor is poisoning young people's minds this way. I'm sure young Keel has heard Ms. Petty's sermons evangelizing the forced busing program. I'm not so sure he has heard the arguments against forced busing. One of his statements, in particular, makes me think he hasn't been given all the facts. He said he won't stop "until every child in Wake County receives a quality education." The implication is that every child did receive a quality education, before the new board stepped in and eliminated forced busing. Does he know that poor and minority students had abyssmal achievement and graduation rates under the forced busing policy? Does he know that, when given a choice, legions of ED parents opted not to have their children bused?
I'm not sure what kind of example it sets for a church when the pastor is a two-time arrestee who clearly plans on continuing to attempt to obstruct a lawfully-elected government body.
Some other arrestees who sought to obstruct lawful bodies:
Thu, 08/12/2010 - 22:46 — festusDr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Mohandas Gandhi. Stephen Biko.
Not that Petty is any of these people, but your last sentence really misses the point.
You are correct, Petty is
Thu, 08/12/2010 - 22:55 — Duhhuh666You are correct, Petty is not any of these people...they stood up to real oppression instead of trying to create the appearance of it.
I see young Seth's mother
Thu, 08/12/2010 - 07:45 — CaryCurmudgeonI see young Seth's mother had an LTE. She is proud of her son for getting arrested. I wonder how proud she is of herself that she has not personally voted in the last two school board elections in which she was eligible to vote. Sends a great message... "son, don't worry about voting, you only have to get involved if it doesn't go your way."
If you look at the
Thu, 08/12/2010 - 00:20 — HJ2ss2If you look at the literature on adolescent brain development you will find that between the ages of 15 to mid 20's the prefrontal lobes (area of the brain involved in "right and wrong and cause and effect") began to develop. Since their capacity to reason is not fully developed they tend to follow the lead of their parents for "value based" decisions.
The above information would strongly suggest that the young man was influenced by his parent or pastor rather than coming to his own conclusions, given that it is unlikely that his critical thinking skills are fully developed at his age.
Development of Moral Reasoning
Thu, 08/12/2010 - 08:55 — zande"If you look at the literature on adolescent brain development you will find that between the ages of 15 to mid 20's the prefrontal lobes (area of the brain involved in "right and wrong and cause and effect") began to develop."
So we have no business sending 18-25yo people off to fight our wars. They really do not know right from wrong yet?? Why are we letting them vote or buy alcohol and cigarettes? Why.. my goodness... JT just learned right from wrong a few years ago according to this theory. Has he had enough experience at it to be on the school board?
It is a gross generalization to state that prefrontal cortical development is all that is involved in moral reasoning ie. knowing "right from wrong." PF lobe function is mostly seen as more associated with the development of behavioral inhibition. What this might suggest is that frontal lobe immaturity may have predisposed the young speaker to be more likely to act on his judgment of right or wrong but not in the reasoning he used to determine his judgment of right or wrong.
Moral development is a much more complex issue. In fact, according to Kohlbergs Stages of Moral development, we might propose that the young man had a higher level of moral development ("Stage 6. Universal Principals") than some of the posters on this board who say that the protesters should not break the law (Stage 4 Maintaining the social order.)
If this were a blog about
Thu, 08/12/2010 - 13:10 — HJ2ss2If this were a blog about brain functioning I would have to disagree with some of your statements. I had no idea my post would take on a life of it's own.
My point was that using 16 yr old students as demonstrators was questionable judgement. I know many teenagers who will look for any reason to be oppositional. In my professional opinion it has to do with seperation as well as other adolesent issues related to that developmental stage.
"In my professional opinion
Thu, 08/12/2010 - 13:23 — zande"In my professional opinion it has to do with seperation as well as other adolesent issues related to that developmental stage."
In my professional opinion....Well.... I really cannot make a professional opinion about this case since I have not done any sort of formal assessment of the person involved. Maybe you have but I have never even met the young man.
I can, however, point out to you why I take some issue with your comments about frontal lobe development and moral decision making. I can also point out that your point of view greatly perhaps underestimates the reasoning capacity of not only this young man but of young people in general.
I concede. Now we can move
Thu, 08/12/2010 - 14:12 — HJ2ss2I concede. Now we can move on.
A very wise blogger once said..
Thu, 08/12/2010 - 09:14 — Duhhuh666I thought this was a discussion on the school system?
You thought wrong. This is a
Thu, 08/12/2010 - 10:37 — zandeYou thought wrong. This is a discussion of "Pullen Memorial's connection to Tuesday's school board arrests"
LOL
Thu, 08/12/2010 - 10:56 — Duhhuh666Got it..You can talk about what ever you want to but others should only discuss the school system.. Thanks General Comrade!
"I'm not sure what kind of
Wed, 08/11/2010 - 19:18 — zande"I'm not sure what kind of example it sets for a church when the pastor is a two-time arrestee who clearly plans on continuing to attempt to obstruct a lawfully-elected government body."
Yea. Religious leaders have never risked arrest by a governing body in the interest of what they felt was right ever before... Geesh! (Tongue planted firmly in cheek.)
I don't know about your
Wed, 08/11/2010 - 20:55 — woodstockI don't know about your "tongue (being) planted firmly in cheek," but it does appear your head is firmly planted up your...
hey hey hey
Wed, 08/11/2010 - 21:00 — Bob_SconceThat's not nice. Don't impute your feelings about Revs Barber and Petty to Zande. He (she) has a point -- how did Paul get to Rome?
Calling the folks involved
Wed, 08/11/2010 - 21:17 — woodstockCalling the folks involved in this race-hustling insanity -- Barbar, Petty -- "religious leaders" is just laughable.
BTW, there is a whole lot goin' on with this issue that ain't very nice ...and Zande isn't really helping to change that.
Be easy on General Zandanista
Wed, 08/11/2010 - 21:22 — Duhhuh666His comrades have had several set backs lately and are trying to regroup to fight the government forces!
Woodie, you have been such a
Wed, 08/11/2010 - 21:30 — zandeWoodie and Duh, you have both been such a healing intellectual force on this blog... Such renaisance people you both seem to be.
LOL Do renaissance men know
Wed, 08/11/2010 - 21:48 — woodstockLOL Do renaissance men and intellectuals know how to spell ...well, "renaissance?"
Yep. You got me there woodie.
Wed, 08/11/2010 - 21:55 — zandeYep. You got me there woodie. That darn ss key!
Yeah, it was a mechanical
Wed, 08/11/2010 - 22:03 — woodstockYeah, it was a mechanical issue...lol.
Normally, I wouldn't mention someone's spelling, but you seemed to be suggesting that you were an intellectual ...and a renaissance man to boot, so I felt compelled to hold you to a higher standard. ; )
Arrest by a governing body?
Wed, 08/11/2010 - 19:30 — Duhhuh666Arrest by a governing body? Arrested for breaking the law in protest of the legal actions of the WCPSS. If there was a chance that the actions of the school board would be struck down as illegal (not likely since 99.4% of school systems have the same assignment plan) I would agree with you. Feeling you are right does not make you right. Disrupting a school board meeting by civil disobedience, is a waste of time and trying to equate these actions to notable civil protest of the past is laughable.
Jim Jones, Jimmy Swaggert,
Wed, 08/11/2010 - 19:20 — DrActualFactualJim Jones, Jimmy Swaggert, Tammy Faye Baker/Jim Baker, Jeremiah Wright are just a few examples for careful consideration of religious leaders. Just because someone claims to have the moral high ground doesn't mean you should follow along like sheep without thinking. Informed decisions are always the best kind to make--just sayin.
Thanks Doc, you said it
Wed, 08/11/2010 - 19:27 — CaryCurmudgeonThanks Doc, you said it better than I could have. I don't think you are equating one to the other, but your point is valid. And with his mom egging him on I doubt this poor young man ever had a chance to make an informed decision.
Thanks Joe. It is funny the
Wed, 08/11/2010 - 19:54 — zandeThanks Joe. It is funny the examples some of the others came up with. It seems that most major religions are founded, based or rooted in acts against the state or the ruling body, majority etc. It just struck me as ironic that a pastor would not be expected to engage in non-violent acts against the state when that ruling entity was acting in ways that violated the tenents and beliefs of that pastors religion. Indeed, some here would wish that we would just "render unto Ceasar what is Ceasars." (one of my favorite tongue in cheek lines of all time.)
As for the young protesters... As the father of two teenagers I never found all the egging on in the world would stop either of my kids from making their own decisions... much to my dismay at times. If your experience is different from mine I would welcome any tips you may have!
I teach my two teenagers to
Thu, 08/12/2010 - 12:02 — CaryCurmudgeonI teach my two teenagers to obey the law. I teach them that if you are not satisfied with how things are run you need to get involved, roll up the sleeves and work hard to change them. I don't think a 15-year old kid knows enough to make a decision like this. As a parent, I would tell them they were not allowed to go and get themselves arrested. I would tell them that if they felt passionate about an issue then they should look for ways to make a difference.
Do they clean up their room or take out the garage when I tell them? No. I'm still working on getting the lawn-mowing thing down. But we're not talking chores here, we're talking about a 15-year old breaking the law. Big difference in my book.
Are you acturally saying you
Thu, 08/12/2010 - 10:53 — woodstockAre you actually saying you would support your teenagers in getting intentionally arrested and that there would not be consequences on the home-front for such an irresponsible act? Wow.
What I am actually saying
Thu, 08/12/2010 - 11:10 — zandeWhat I am actually saying is "As the father of two teenagers I never found all the egging on in the world would stop either of my kids from making their own decisions... much to my dismay at times. If your experience is different from mine I would welcome any tips you may have!"
LOL I thought intellectuals
Thu, 08/12/2010 - 14:38 — woodstockLOL I thought intellectuals were typically able to discern the literal from the figurative ...maybe not.
velcro- lots and lots of velcro. Use liberally
Thu, 08/12/2010 - 01:49 — jejohn8velcro them to chairs or to any other solid structure
Duplicate
Thu, 08/12/2010 - 07:29 — zandeDuplicate
Perhaps there is a PLT to
Wed, 08/11/2010 - 20:26 — DrActualFactualPerhaps there is a PLT to stop the Pullen to Prison pipeline. (sarcasm)
I hope it's a 6-8 hour PLT
Sat, 08/14/2010 - 08:14 — g88ky07right VA!
LOL!
Sat, 08/14/2010 - 06:46 — woodstockLOL!
Does he know that, when
Wed, 08/11/2010 - 19:04 — user12345Does he know that, when given a choice, legions of ED parents opted not to have their children bused?
And these ED parents should feel so fortunately to have you making their case for them why they should be booted out of your school.