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Principals announced for Rolesville Middle and Brassfield Elementary

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The Wake County school board named two new principals tonight and transferred another school leader to a job in Central Office.

Dhedra Lassiter was named principal of the new Rolesville Middle opening in  July with a salary of $98,350. She's been principal of Heritage Middle since 2007.

Elizabeth MacWilliams was named principal of Brassfield Road Elementary with a salary of $68,513. She's been an assistant principal at Davis Drive Elementary since 2009.

Denise Tillery will go from being principal of Wake Forest Elementary, where she's worked since 2004, to senior director of intervention services.

Teresa Abron's contract as interim principal of Durant Road Middle was extended through January. She's being paid a salary equivalent to $118,164 a year.

Sue Sisson's contract as interim principal of Poe Elementary was extended through June. She's being paid a salary equivalent to $97,132 a year,

I'll post bio sheets in the morning.

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Wonder how Kevin being king

will work out for Sam, and the rest, at Brassfield.

Those are some pricey salaries

I know I shouldn't be surprised, but I think the salary for a principal(s) is high.  Are principals guaranteed a retirement pension from the state?  Is Tillery going to make the same amount at the district as she did at WFE?  I wish the school board would consider reducing the salary we pay principals/ assistant principals and hire teacher aides or more teachers. 

AP salaries

Actually, they did cut AP salaries for this year because they were cut to 10-month employees, so they lost two months of employment.

Why?

What amount is needed to attract and retain good principals?  That's the only question that really matters. 

One thing that I've really come to understand is the difference that a good principal makes to a school -- a good principal will lead and motivate both teachers and students.  Considering that motivation may spur a student to practice medicine and develop a device that saves hundreds of lives or to develop software that benefits millions of people, it's hard to find an upper limit to how much the job should pay.

Doesn't seem

Doesn't seem that "good" factors into the calculations unless you consider maybe indirectly if a good principal may be given the opportunity to lead a larger school. However, personally we had the reverse experience.

http://www.wcpss.net/salary-schedules/principals/

What's the criteria for "good"?

How do we know these principals or any principal is good?  How does WCPSS quantify good?  Or do they?  Do they look at the success of the school, test scores?  I don't know how they choose principals.  But knowing Wake County's abysmal graduation rate for minorities, I wonder if some of these salaries are worth it.  In today's down economy, I think public bureaucrats need to justify their salaries.  The private sector is firing people, are teachers the only ones losing their jobs?  Especially considering the taxpayer funded pensions that these people will receive based on their salary, when they are not working anymore.

no pensions

State employees (principals and teachers are all state employees) do not get pensions any more. They all have 401K's just like in private companies. I can't remember when they switched to 401K's but it was a long time ago (maybe 15 years ago or so).

clarify

I should clarify that when the State switched to 401Ks, people who were already hired by the State got to choose whether or not to stay with a pension or go with a 401K, so there are plenty of retired State employees that do receive a pension now, and there are still some that are retiring even now that will get pensions. But no new hires get 401Ks now as far as I know.

So...

To tell you the truth, I don't know how to measure whether a principal is any good -- I would look at how involved they are and how they work with the kids and teachers.  

In general, I agree that we should be perpetually asking "Is this something we really need to be doing" about everything the government does.  But, I've seen good principals in action, and in my view, they're worth every penny.  Just calling them a 'bureaucrat' is really demeaning to what they do. There are plenty of actual bureaucrats in Raleigh who deserve the attention far more than do public school principals.

With regard to the pensions, that has to play in also -- is the total package (pay, pension, benefits, etc....) high enough to attract a sufficient supply of quality principals?   The answer to that question will tell you whether their compensation is appropriate or not.  It may be that some WCPSS principals need to be canned.  (I *know* there are some WCPSS teachers who need to be canned.)  But, if they do, that's really a separate question from how much principals should be paid -- it's a really poor trade-off to say "Well, you're a lousy principal, but you're getting a lousy salary, so that's OK." 

That's part of the problem

You asked the right question Bob.  How much does it take to attract and retain good principals?  What sort of benefits and working conditions will draw people to the field? Same for teachers.  Unfortunately many high school and college students who might make great educators are turned off by the salary potential. 

Take a closer look...

If you look at AP salaries they are not high at all.  A colleague became an AP and told me his raise was about 2500.  Yes, it went up 13000, but he also had two months of employment added to his work year.  Do you think an AP should be making the same he/she did as a teacher.  More hours, not going to say more work, just different.  Before you comment consider the responsibility that admin. positions entail and the hours they put in. 

compared to what?

Just curious what you are comparing these salaries to?  What do you think are comparable positions in private industry that you are using as a benchmark?  I'm not being flippant, I honestly am curious.

Never mind bio sheets. I

Never mind bio sheets. I wonder if personnel changes are driven by merit.

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