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Preparing for protests at Tuesday's school board meeting

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Diversity policy supporters who hope to put the pressure on Wake County school board members on Tuesday may be hamstrung by the extra security measures that day.

As noted in today’s article, the school system will pay eight off-duty police officers to provide security. The decision to not have any officers at the June 15 meeting had left the school system unprepared to immediately respond to the protesters that day.

But perhaps more of a challenge is the new requirement that people who don’t have tickets for seats must now wait outside the building.

Keeping non-ticketed protesters outside should reduce the number of people around the board meeting room.

“Now we’re going to have to take precautions to have a safe and orderly meeting,” said school board chairman Ron Margiotta.

Margiotta said he’s willing to tolerate verbal abuse on Tuesday. Margiotta said that the behavior of the diversity policy supporters at board meetings has been ‘”cruder and ruder’ than anything he ever saw in his native New Jersey.

But Margiotta said he’ll draw the line on attempts to shut down the meeting to prevent the board from doing its business.

The thought of shutting down the meeting is definitely something that has occurred to protesters and could take place Tuesday under the banner of non-violent civil disobedience.

“If we have enough people there, we could shut down the meeting,’ said David Eisenstadt, 16, an Enloe High junior and member of N.C. HEAT. “They’d have to listen to us.’

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One of you courageously stupid

One of you courageously stupid conservative thinkers posted something about Breitbart looking into some Wake county stuff ... well 'cause he's some right-on journalist. Take this:

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2010/07/civil-rights-and-shirley-sherrods.html

You guys are living off this crap "oh, noes, the president's a racist against little old me white person." Barber has Margiotta's number, and Margiotta knows it. How does he sleep at night? Um, I guess because he's so dumb that FoxNews actually seems like non-fiction to him. Seriously, crawl back up your Apex, and leave the rest of us who recognize reality to get on with it.

Great post, gregishere! I

Great post, gregishere! I can tell you are a very smart and educated man. I look forward to your insight, it is so ..."enlightened." 

cautiously optimistic

http://www.wcpss.net/attachments/100720chaircomments.pdf

I find Margiotta's opening statement quite interesting. I am encouraged by the attention that student achievement, for under and over achieving students, might receive going forward. I look forward to press releases and Keung's blog for more information on the analysis and recommendations that Dr Hargens has been charged with.

I believe if this opening statement is followed by meaningful steps and action plans, the current BOE may accomplish something meaningful.

Right

I find Margiotta's opening statement quite interesting. I am encouraged by the attention that student achievement, for under and over achieving students, might receive going forward

You mean like the "attention" it got later in the same meeting when the new majority voted to stop all meetings of the student achievement committee?!??

Nothing remotely encouraging came out of Tuesday's meeting.  Both sides just dug in further.

Can you give me a link

Can you give me a link please? I thought standing committee meetings were canceled, not meetings of special purpose committees. However, if your understanding is correct, then the onus falls on Supt Hargens and her team to draft recommendations without any reliance upon a committee.

Um, Student Achievement WAS a

standing committee.  As were Facilities, Human Resources and Finance.  My understanding is that the vote Tuesday was to stop all of them from meeting.

As a standing committee,

As a standing committee, what has the student achievement committee achieved during prior BOE tenures? Just curious.

Well It Would Be Mathematically Impossible

for such a committee to have devoted LESS time to discussing student achievement issues than the Board has in the last 8 months of regular Board meetings. 

It's pretty obvious that with all the other issues they are messing with there is little time at a once a month whole Board meeting to have any substantive discussion on ANYTHING.   Seems to me that they should be ADDING time to discuss solutions, not taking it away.

Goldman's Interview

Goldman's interview tonight was interesting. It appears her number one priority all along has been student achievement !  I guess the "save the summer vacation" would not have played to well on TV.

Committees

The Student Achievement Committee itself is no more.   The EDSATF remains as it was an ad hoc committee.   There was never any clarity in goals or responsibilities between the two.   Can someone who understands Mr. Margiotta's organizational plan detail exactly how information will be collected on achievement, how will it be reported to the board under this "nominated board member", how that nominated board member will communicate information to other board members, and then how that information will be disseminated (if at all) back to the public?

Is Ron going to lay out rules of communications between WCPSS staff and the board and between board members to avoid springing surprise items onto the agenda and thus to avoid the 12 minute decisions Mr. Hill and Ms. Goldman have complained about in the past?

So..

First of all, the original vote was to suspend the committees for a few months.  It was only after the minority disagreed that the move was made to drop them.  And, that will take a second vote -- I'm guessing they make the motion to suspend it before doing the second vote, and the second vote won't happen.

Secondly, Ron's point was this:  the committees were supposed to be small groups, but are generally attended by every board member.  As a result, the committee talks through stuff, then it's sent to a working session of the whole board, which is basically the same people talking over the same points.  Then it goes to the main board meeting, where it's talked over again.  The purpose of committees is to allow a smaller group to deal with a subset of matters in detail, so the entire board doesn't have to.  But, if all the board members go to all the committees, that purpose is frustrated.

What does that have to do with my question

Rather than deflect from my questions with an unnecessary repetition of why Ron made this decision, how about answering the question with any level of detail about what he is proposing to implement.   To repeat -- can someone lay out the process of how information will flow (a) from WCPSS staff to the designated BoE contact?; (b) how that contact will be determined?; (c) what rules of order will be implemented for communicating information from the primary contact to other members of the BoE so that all BoE members are apprised; and (d) how information will be communicated from the BoE to the public?

I Suspect That The INTENT

is to prevent information flow and concentrate the power of knowledge in a few (less than 5 is my guess) hands.   It's hard to come up with any other rational explanation - and the ones who voted for it sure haven't bothered trying to defend or explain it.

Interesting Move

The actions of the current board have caused me to take a closer look at how other school districts across the country conduct themselves. Overall I see more direct  inclusion of the community in the process.  In a number of cases committees are headed by Parent Advisory and Administration. School board members are excluded from committees and hearings. 

If some people REALLY want

"more direct inclusion" they need to show up and act humane, not like the cage doors just opened up long enough for them to escape, call others racists, march, jump on cars, embarrass Mayor Meeker and act like total imbeciles!
 
Don't know about others, but I'm looking forward to THE MAN's return from the worst timed vacation on the history of the planet and the hope of getting some updates.
Like, will the meetings be cut in 1/2, if so when, what happens now to those arrested and especially to those who have been charged twice, what happens to them going forward? What the Mayor has to say about feeding this circus and how he explains to those wanting to come here that Wake County/Raleigh isn't as backwards as it sounds and looks. Maybe about why the N&O purged the stories comments several times before and while he was gone.
 
Yes, some factual updates would be nice.

Can see

While I personally do not agree with the antics, I do believe it could have been avoided.  The hostile take over at the first board meeting set the tone.  Change management is the responsibility of the chair and it has been poorly handled throughout.  I would have thought sitting on the board for 6 years prior and listening to the complaints of parents - he would have adopted a more inclusive process.  From day one it has been my way or the highway, with one member coming out with "we are right they are wrong."  That Wake County is a national laughing stock is squarely on Margiotta and the new board members as they have mismanaged from the start.  For confirmation, all one has to do is look at other school systems web sites and how they approached change - we are not in the same league. 

"While I personally do not

"While I personally do not agree with the antics, I do believe it could have been avoided.  The hostile take over at the first board meeting set the tone."

I most definitely don't agree with the antics, but I don't think they could have been avoided.  Those who oppose the new board majority appear to have zero tolerance for viewpoints opposing theirs. 

While I will agree that there was much about the hostile takeover that was over the top, I do feel that the board takeover was necessary.  Kevin Hill had already fired the first shot in this battle by cancelling the second December board meeting before the new board members had even been installed.  This action would have effectively delayed their ability to make any changes for the upcoming school year, as would having a board chair hostile to the sentiments of the majority. 

Laughing stock would be the

Laughing stock would be the parents who put their kids into WCPSS thinking it was education that attracted the"nationally recognized" label. If you are looking to assign blame for the unfolding drama, here are some leading contenders:

- prior BOEs
- some magnet parents and students (with Enloe getting special mention)
- NAACP
- CCCAAC, GSIW, etc.

Oh, I don't think any of the

Oh, I don't think any of the local or national coverage of WCPSS make us a "laughingstock."  And if they did, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.  I care far more about respecting families and educating kids than I do about what some biased national rag has to say about our schools.

When I talk to anyone from outside of this area about what's going on in our schools, their first question consistently is "You guys still do busing, I thought our country did away with that?"  This includes four conversations I had last week with a school principal, a CIS coordinator, a school teacher and an assistant librarian -- all from other school systems in NC and VA.  These are people in the education community and they were shocked that we still followed the antiquated approach of busing.  All four (two couples, actually) come from school systems with higher F&R than WCPSS.  BTW, none of them had heard a word about the "nationwide scandal" going on in Wake County.

Just like any board, there are things that this group could have done better.  On the other hand, the chair has gone (I believe) much too far in allowing extended public comment which runs well beyond what is required by law, and in tolerating childish behavior from members of board meeting audiences.  Yvonnen Brannin provides a great example.  Watch the video of the last meeting during the public hearing portion.  The woman has no idea how to conduct herself in a business meeting.  She hisses speakers she doesn't agree with, or talks over them.  She makes faces (like we all did in third grade), and conducts her own little meeting while others are at the podium.  Then we have a mayor and newspaper editor who don't seem to like folks who aren't from around here.  Add Barbar to the mix, throwing out racism accusations anytime he's near a microphone.  If we were a laughingstock, those are the people to blame.  They are creating the impression that North Carolinians are a bunch of race-baiting hotheads who cannot act like adults.

Considering Yevonne

Considering Yevonne Brannon's alarmingly unprofessional, childish and outright rude behavior at the BoE meetings, I was shocked to learn recently that she is a professor at NC State and Director of the Urban Affairs Center. She must have tenure.

Could not disagree more.

That Wake County is a national laughing stock is squarely on Margiotta and the new board members

Could not disagree more. Here in Wake, we have been lulled into a sense that school boards are one big harmonious lovefest. Since the early 90's, the Wake BOE has been made up of members who have marched lock step with one another. Parents who disagreed with board decisions were often muted as the board and administrators pitted parents against one another.

It wasn't long ago that the Durham School Board was the scene of unruly protests with parents screaming at school board members.

There have been large protests at school board meetings in Eden Prairie, MN; Miami- Dade; Edison, NJ; Jefferson Parish, LA; Houston, TX; Dekalb County, GA; Seattle, WA; and dozens of others all within the last couple of months.

There is huge disagreement in Texas schools on whether or not to adopt a conservative textbook curriculum. And who can forget the uproar in those districts that tried to introduce intelligent design into the curriculum.

The difference between Wake and every other district is that, unlike Wake, those protests generally observed the rule of law, and citizens who were not happy with their boards often turned to the courts for relief. Make no mistake -- the only reason that Wake is drawing the attention that it does is because of the antics of William Barber and his cohorts.

Mr. Margiotta could not be more inclusive. Unlike every board before him, he has extended the public comment period to allow for more citizen input. He has been extremely tolerant of the childlike outbursts that now occur regularly (Previous chairs have physically removed speakers for going slightly over their time limit).

As for your accusation of a hostile takeover, can you imagine the manner in which meetings would have been conducted had Kevin Hill remained the chair? The fact remains that in our democracy those in power have control. Should the democrats lose the US House and Senate this November, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid will step aside as the Republicans elect one of their own as Speaker of the House, and Senate Majority Leader.

If the 4 minority members of the Wake BOE hold onto their seats, and the citizens in Margiotta's district elect a pro-busing representative in 2011, I fully expect the pro-busing majority to replace the current BOE chair at their first meeting.

Government is running as it was designed to, and as it does all over this great country.

I think Margiotta and the

I think Margiotta and the new board have done an absolutely fabulous job. They have been able to very effectively redirect the efforts even when up against a barrage of unfounded attacks from the extreme left and outside agitators.

The new board IS right and the opposition IS wrong. So whoever said that is brilliant.

...

Choice is now available to all families -- regardless of your income.

Families no longer have to have their children forced on different calendars.

Magnet seats were opened up to all applicants -- not just those that live in wealthy areas -- allowing more low-income children access to the plethora of special electives and programs.

An assignment plan is in the works that will incorporate calendar needs, proximity, educational programs, and increased stability.

Yup, sounds like a laughing stock.

 

 

 

...

Parents as part of the process? What a novel idea.

Years of no choice, forced calendars, constant reassignment and better educational opportunities for some pushed parents to the brink. IMO, we have been heard and are now part of the process rather than an afterthought.

Interesting

Interesting.  Have you looked in to some of the often-cited exemplary districts cited here for comparison?     I would love to know more.
 

Can tell a lot

One can tell a lot by the websites and information offered.  Fairfax County - under continuing interest, two planning studies worthy of looking at.  Cambridge Public schools - letter from the superintendent regarding the new middle school, proposed restructuring and request for community engagement.   John A Johnson on the other hand has not updated their newsletters since 2008.

Sorry...

I was responding to your first comment -- that the committee was no more and the inference that some may make --that the board won't be looking at student achievement.  I have no idea how the details will work out.

Good questions. I wonder if

Good questions. I wonder if Margiotta is the point of contact for disseminating Dr. Hargens' findings and recommendations.

also optimistic

I believe if this opening statement is followed by meaningful steps and action plans, the current BOE may accomplish something meaningful.

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I'm also optimistic that good things will come of these changes.  I wish that more people would demand improvements in academics and achievement rather than focusing on the side issues that are distracting us now.  It will happen--I just have to be patient but patience isn't my strong suit.  lol

I am not sure why you would

I am not sure why you would be optimistic ... the newbies did not run on improving achievement ... they ran on creating stability by ending diversity .... they think <end diversity> = <stability> = <achievement>.  That is if kids go to a closer school they get smarter.  Given that 90% of the kids already do that, it is unlikely changing things for the other 10% will have much of a system wide impact.

If achievement had been the goal, they would have started with it.  The first vote before hiring another lawyer, changing PLT, etc.   They would have commissioned a study to benchmark Wake against Fairfax for example.  They would have met with schools that were failing to understand why ... they are under resourced and have poor leadership.   They did not even take up Del's call to increase graduation rates because it was Del's idea.

Personally, the most noise from people in Wake is about convenience - maintaining summers and not messing with Wednesdays.   Most parents don't care about education enough to volunteer in the school, donate to the PTA, and probably sit down with their kids to review their homework each night.  You did not see a lawsuit filed over achievement like there was to maintain summer vacations.  Now it is possible that if you are in one of the "good" schools favored by the newbies you might see some improvement but for the "all" children group it is unlikely to happen.

The source for the optimism

The source for the optimism lies in reflecting upon the past few months and contrasting it with the 7/20 statement. The new board members were voted in based on a family friendly platform. Between the focus on being family friendly, and the distractions of the legal audit, Dr. Burns, etc., I had thought it quite improbable that achievement would receive attention in the near future.

You cannot deny the new members were delivering on their electoral promises. By that measure alone, some would deem their tenures as successful. However, while grappling with a new assignment model, an operational leadership vacuum, and engineered racially charged protests, the BOE demonstrated leadership and commitment to education in putting achievement on the radar.

If you peruse Margiotta's statement carefully, you will see that he acknowledges the focus hitherto has been on assignment. I believe that is a huge step i.e., admitting the priorities to date. But even more significant is the rest of the statement. Margiotta goes on to link the assignment effort to "stagnant achievement". Further, he talks about Supdt. Hargens and others analyzing achievement data, identifying the needs of students across the board, and strategies to address needs. In the same statement, he reiterates the BOE does not intend to create high poverty/ low performing schools.

I was appalled that the public comments period was spent on canned vitriol. I would have thought attention would be directed to the board's focus on achievement and statement of intent on high poverty schools. The only encouraging voice during the public comments period, though solitary, was of a lady who commented upon achievement. We need more like her to encourage the board to remain focused on achievement and high poverty schools.

So...

I suggest that the board's goal was to make the Wake County schools places that are friendly to Wake County families.  Sure, that means working on achievement.  But, that also means getting rid of some of the byzantine policies of past boards: wacky Wednesdays, year-round schools, discrimination in magnet assignments, reassignments.  And, frankly, those policies are a lot easier to fix than achievement.  So, work on the low-hanging fruit.

The legal audit, I think was just RM's pet project -- he'd been pushing that for years and finally got the chance to put it in place.  In hindsight, I suspect that would have been a good thing to wait a few months.  [However, the central result of the audit -- that the district should have its own in-house attorney -- was spot on.  An organization of WCPSS' size continually makes decisions (or fails to make decisions) that would benefit from legal counsel.  When the counsel is in a separate firm that bills for the call, you tend not to seek that counsel nearly as often as you would if it were three doors up.]

Board member Sutton wants Raleigh police apology

www.wral.com/news/education/story/8008870/

A Wake County school board member almost arrested in a scuffle between protesters and police said Wednesday he's owed an apology.

Keith Sutton, who represents East Raleigh District 4, said Wednesday that police officers grabbed him during a break at Tuesday's school board meeting while he was trying to protect a young girl caught in a protest against a controversial change to the county’s student assignment policy.

"One officer, obviously, didn't recognize that I was a member of the board and proceeded to put my arm around my back as if to arrest me."

School board staff intervened, and police released Sutton.

"I think the officers should have known who I was," Sutton said, adding he had been at the school board table for at least 30 minutes prior to the incident.

Raleigh police did not have an immediate comment Wednesday afternoon.

Nineteen people were arrested in several protests Tuesday over the board majority's decision to move toward a community-based student assignment policy that's eventually expected to take the place of the current practice of busing students to achieve socio-economic diversity.

Nearly a dozen police officers and extra security personnel were on hand for Tuesday's meeting. Sutton said he thinks the police presence might have made the situation worse.

"I think the use of force, particularly in terms of numbers of officers that were there, only served to incite rather than to calm," he said.

But school board Chairman Ron Margiotta defended the increased security presence.

"I'm not sure it's because of confusion. I am not sure he (Sutton) did not want to be arrested," Margiotta said.

"I think the Raleigh police couldn't have done a better job, couldn't have been more professional," he added. "They handled people in a very nice manner. They gave those protesters every opportunity in the world to not be arrested.

Spending on security has increased in the past eight months since a new board majority took control of the school board and started talking about scrapping the decade-old busing policy.

From July to November of last year the school system spent $451.58 on security at board meetings. From December until April, it spent nearly $15,000 on security because of an increased public interest and high public turnout at meetings.

sad spectacle

Barring the occasional booing, the public comments period was progressing well up until the Garlocks and Ms. Camellia Lee started their act. Mrs. Garlock switched places with Ms. Lee. After Ms. Lee was done speaking, she continued to stand by the podium. At that point, Mrs. Michelle Laws, the next speaker at the podium, started berating the board. Toward the end of Mrs. Laws shouting, Ms. Lee started to talk again while still at the podium. At this point, some in the audience started to raise their voices. Chants and slogans broke out and people rushed to join Mrs. Laws and Ms. Lee.

After a few minutes, the board members left the room. A minute later, WCPSS security officers approached the protesters. But the protest continued for many minutes with some supporters, safely ensconed in their seats, egging on those who had congregated by the podium.

Up until this point, there were 2 police officers in the room. They were standing by the wall, one on each side of the room. When the decision was made to remove the protesters, the number of police officers increased. There must have been over 15 police officers during the course of the arrests. Note that the additional police officers were *NOT* in the room prior to the incident. As the protesters were being removed from the room in a courteous and professional manner, Mr. Keith Sutton entered the melee. Remember there was a restive crowd at the podium and police officers who had just entered the room. Mr. Sutton, for all practical purposes, was adding to the chaos and impeding the police officers. His arrest would have been automatic and justified had he not been rescued by staff members. It was clear that Mr. Sutton was seeking to gain favor from the crowd. The officers used no excessive force. The removal was executed efficiently and politely.

When the arrests started, some from the crowd scampered. This included Ms. Gen Palmer. You will see her picture in the N&O all teary eyed. What you do not see in the N&O are pictures after the incident. Ms. Palmer, for whatever reason, switched into a relaxed demeanor. Any pictures of Ms. Palmer after the incident will show her happy, smiling face while she continued to shout insults during the rest of the public comments period.

Yes...that Ms. Lee and the

Yes...that Ms. Lee and the other young girl were something else!!  I thought they were trying out for a play or something.  As for Ms. Lee...if you are going to "cry" and seem upset...then have some TEARS rolling down from your face.

I guess the next step for the board to do is have an officer on each side of the podium, so they can quickly STOP any future disruptions.  It's people like this that will continue to restrict the rest of the free world of speaking.  However these same people will be the first to WHINE about how their freedom of speech is being violated?!?!

You are too funny. She was

You are too funny. She was obviously crying, anyone who didn't see that is completely stupid. I also like how the teabaggers are allowed to scream and yell all they want but the liberals aren't. Oh, by the way... did you notice how every single time the liberal speakers went slightly over their time the conservatives started getting mad, but every time someone from their side went over they didn't care. I also love how a man from the audience tried to punch one of the protesters, a tiny latino girl. The conservatives also accused the arrestees of being "high". Funny that the news didn't report that.

LOL!  They didn't report it

LOL! 

They didn't report it because it didn't happen and you are lying. You are letting your hate cloud your judgement and honesty.

Show me the tears.....I

Show me the tears.....I didn't see a thing!  Watch the videos on wral...the ones that went over their time, were spoken to, the ones that didn't go over , were not...imagine that!?!!?

The "liberals" were the rude ones that made rude loud comments to the "conservatives" as you put it.  When the "liberals" spoke, as you put it, I don't hear anyone speaking to them.

Funny?  well, I've always been told I had a good sense of humor...thanks for the compliment.

Dude...

How would you like it if I called your side a bunch of f------ c--- l---ers?  Look up the language you're using.

Board member Sutton wants Raleigh police apology

well maybe that's NAACP, SOP

see page 2

http://www.newsobserver.com/content/media/2009/8/3/Sutton.pdf 

He should of been arrested

Sutton should of been arrested for interfering with a police action.  If he isn't smart enough to understand that then he surely should not be on the school board.

I am guessing Black people

I am guessing Black people all look the same to White officers.  They probably do not know we allow Blacks to server on the BOE.

Wow, so now you think the

Wow, so now you think the police are racists too.  These officers had to deal with a very difficult situation and handled it like the professionals that they are, they do not deserve to be accused of racism.

...those cops were with

...those cops were with SWAT. Are you guys THAT scared of us? Secondly, I'm sure that if Sutton was a conservative, they'd be quick to apologize, seeing as Chief Dolan is an ultra-conservative bigot.

are you sure?

http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/07/21/590742/a-day-of-protest-arrests-and-a.html

Are you claiming the officers in this picture belong to a SWAT team?

Yes, people should be scared

Yes, people should be scared of you. You've shown you will deny others the right to speak, lie, curse, resist arrest, call people names. It is an pattern and it if it keeps up someone will get hurt and people like you will be to blame.

So far you've insulted police officers, SWAT Team members and the Chief of Police. They are all bigots in your book because they were doing their job and protecting us from the bad guys ...that's YOU in case you are confused.

So the police SWAT team are

So the police SWAT team are racists?  Nice, you guys are scaring me now.

Gatewood and the NAACP are the racist.

The Beloved REV. Gatewood sat behind me at the meeting and he and his supporter which were also behind me made very rude comments about Bill Randall a Black Conservative Candidate for NC 13 as he spoke in support of the New School Board.  Stay tuned for more.

Bill Randall is a threat to

Bill Randall is a threat to Gatewood and the NAACP.  He's a hard working man (that happens to be black) that would never use his skin color to make gains.  He also would never use his skin color to make excuses for any problems in his life. I believe he is a man that is independent, self reliant, and has a lot of self respect that will always take personal responsibility for his life.  The African American community could learn a lot from this gentleman.  I doubt many would since they would claim he's trying to be "too white".

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T. Keung Hui covers Wake schools.

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