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Political will for diversity

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Does Wake County have the political will to maintain the current diversity policy?

As noted in today's article, that was one of the issues raised Thursday at the UNC Center for Civil Rights conference on school integration. While Wake was praised repeatedly for its diversity policy, questions were raised about the growing number of schools above the 40 percent F&R goal.

"There might be a slight erosion of political will in the district to maintain diversity," said Sheneka Williams, an assistant professor at the University of Georgia who has co-written a paper on Wake’s diversity policy.

Williams said the challenge is making sure that the "current leadership class" doesn't feel that it's too hard to maintain the diversity policy.

"We watched this political will issue in Wake and wonder if Wake can sustain what it has created as a district on a hill with such an SES-based policy that it has packed clear gains in some ways," Williams said.

A goal today is to post the full audio from that particular panel that focused on Wake. I'll also try to post at least some of the handouts and research papers that were presented.

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The intellectual dishonesty in that is astounding.

[edited to add:  I had thought this was going to post just after Louise's link to the Wake Ed Partnership article, not the one from Venita Peyton.  I have the utmost respect for Ms. Peyton.  I don't want anyone to think the subject line refers to her.]

I also got that latest round of drivel from Wake Ed Partnership.
It just makes clear that WEP will stoop to intellectual dishonesty and focus on irrelevant issues to try to discredit those who are making legitimate criticism of WCPSS policies.

The distance "as the crow flies" matters only to the crows, unless WCPSS is planning to offer helicopter rides to schools next year. If, instead, you look at the real routes that will have to be travelled (which you can determine by plugging node and school addresses into a mapping utility such as google maps or yahoo maps) you will indeed find children who will be riding as much as 20 miles one way. And I promise you they won't be doing that in 45 minutes.

Instead, WCPSS pretends they're keeping kids at schools within 5 (or 10, or 15) miles from home by determining the radii on a map, rather than looking at the real distance that will be travelled.

Unfortunately, this is a bad habit they refuse to break, even when parents point out the fallacies in this method. Years ago, when my kids were in one of 3 adjacent nodes that were going to be reassigned to the 17th closest school to our home (6.8 miles away from my home, if I drove directly from my home to the school; more like 11.5 miles following the bus route that was taken. It may possibly have fit just within a 5 mile "as the crow flies" radius; I don't know.) Two of the nodes affected were fairly sizeable (something like 20 or more kids apiece); the third node had only 3 kids in it. The third node was also located across a lake from the first two nodes. Once it became clear that it was inevitable that WCPSS was going to reassign us, those of us in the larger two nodes came out on behalf of the small node, and asked Growth Management "Even if you're going to reassign us, please just leave the 3rd node where it is. While our neighborhoods appear adjacent on a map, there are no roads across the lake or through the woods that separate us. It will just make a long bus ride even longer for our kids." Growth Management ignored our request. I just checked it on google maps --- the extra detour required to pick up the 3 kids at that one bus stop added an extra 3.0 miles to the bus trip. (And, per google maps, and extra 7 minutes. Given the slower speed and required stop for the bus, I'd estimate it more like 8 - 9 minutes.)

But let's all congratulate WEP on their dismissive, derisive little editorial that will fool those who don't take time to look behind the curtain and will instead believe whatever the wizard tells them. Yes, indeedy, the majority of kids are within 5 miles from their assigned school, at least if you travel by hot air balloon like the wizard does. And if you're in the unlucky ones selected for the longer bus rides --- well, I guess it just stinks to be you, huh?

I'm glad WEP sent out that

I'm glad WEP sent out that email, it removes any doubt that they are nothing more than a public relations arm of WCPSS.  Has anyone thought to ask WEP where they got that data?  The answer is WCPSS.  WEP presented their mileage chart during last week's roundtable meeting.  They stated that WCPSS planned on releasing the data "in the next few weeks."  So how come WEP gets the data before the rest of us?  

Remember, we live in NC, where people in politics live by the wink and the nod.  WEP and WCPSS represent an unholy alliance. 

2009 Local Elections

http://venitapeyton.com/2009/04/2009-local-elections.html
After this year’s October and November nonpartisan elections some relationships may be severed. “We Shall Overcome” and “Cum-by-yah” may not be sung. In fact, good riddance
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This year’s electoral outcomes will be less a function of huge sums of poorly spent money, and more of a savvy well-prepared voter who will read between the lines. And realize the true function of elected officials is to serve as public servants.

Wake County residents will find new officials in every municipality and definitely with the Board of Education. Incumbents who have been dutiful may find themselves re-elected.

Yes. With all the job losses, misspent stimulus money and ignored pleas for assistance, the voter indeed will rule.

Because the greatest revenge is success.

My favorite quote:

"The district measures the distance between home and school in a straight line. Bus routes are never that efficient."

Don't know about you all, but I sure wouldn't start on a 5-mile mountain hike that was measured "as the crow flies"!

Glad you had a good laugh, Dr.  :^)

You'll love this...

"According to a school

"According to a school district analysis of assignment patterns for 2006-2007, 75 percent of all high school students are assigned to a school within five miles of their home. Almost 96 percent are assigned to a school within 10 miles. "

Thanks for the url ... I understand arguing distances and times but it is best to start with facts to cut through the confusion.  While it is more convenient to go to a school two miles away, five miles  is not terrible.  If our view of "neighborhood" was expanded to five miles most everyone would be in their neighborhood school.

Mileage is irrelevant at some point

Mileage is irrelevant when you are actually looking at the number of schools the child passes to get to the school that is "within five miles". FACT: if you use East Wake Middle for example, the node the school sits in is assigned to Wendell Middle, eight miles away. There are homes that touch the school campus that are not assigned to the school.

Louise, you know that

Louise, you know that somewhere there is a Ph.D getting paid $200,000+ a year from Central Office putting their Trailblazers skinnies and flats in a straight line to measure this 20 mile haul.  Not that they would admit to knowing anyone that rides that far.   Thanks for the post, it made for the knee-slappin' whole-hearted laugh of my day.  God bless em!

Something Ron said a while ago...

Ron said something at a board meeting in the fall. He said the board is going to have to acknowledge the middle class white flight out of the County's schools. Something they have not acknowledged....

But let there be no doubt that people are voting with their feet. Whether it's charter schools, private school, or homeschool, these people are voting against the yearly disruptions that diversity bussing requires.

Flame away!

“But let there be no

“But let there be no doubt that people are voting with their feet. Whether it's charter schools, private school, or homeschool, these people are voting against the yearly disruptions that diversity bussing requires.”

 

Wrong …. Wrong … the yearly disruptions are caused by the unmanaged hyper growth not diversity … poor people don’t multiple over night requiring building seven schools a year …. Poor people don’t move node to node each year causing annual demographic shifts …. Until the growth picks back up, the demographic won’t change anytime soon … though F&R might grow as people get poorer in this economy …

Will you please take a look at Las Vegas, Albuquerque, Phx, etc

None of the above mentioned cities (with faster growth than Raleigh) has these problems. 

These cities have all experienced explosive growth over the last 10 years.   They do not have disruptive rescheduling of 5000+plus kids some years.

Like I illustrated above,

Like I illustrated above, if the WCPSS were simply to build a green field school and let it fill naturally over time with people as they moved in it would cause little disruption to the rest of the county.  By trying to dynamically allocate seats on the fly they cause a “rocking” back and forth like someone running from one side to the other of a small boat.  That is what is making you sea sick not the poor F&Rs. 

 

I don’t know much about Las Vegas but I heard they used forced year round to compensate until they could build enough schools.

Las Vegas' Limited Use Of MYR

Hey Fiestamom:

Something else interesting about Las Vegas is that they only use MYR on an "as needed" basis.  They employ a certain threshold, whereby enrollment meets that threshold and the school will be converted to MYR for the following year.  When the school's enrollment drops to a certain point they discontinue the use of MYR at that school.

They don't use MYR in middle schools.

Even Vegas knows that it is undesirable and should only be used WHEN NEEDED.  WCPSS could learn from that.

Thanks for the info

That's interesting.  I didn't know that. 

Diversity Bussing does cause the county wide disruptions

Without diversity bussing, there is no reassignment to maintain a balanced ed%. High growth areas have an effect on the surrounding community only. There is no reason a school that opens in Apex/Holly Springs/ etc. should cause the entire county to have students shifted.

You hit the nail on the head

Last year a new school opened in Apex. By the time they were done, one kid was moved to fill a seat at the new school (growth) and at least three others (not from "growth" areas), including an ED and an ESL kid, were shifted for the "diversity" policy and to open up a magnet seat. It's like one of those polish jokes -- how many kids do you have to move to fill one new seat?

Take your example … look

Take your example … look at Panther Creek and Cary HSs … PC is built pulling everyone west …. CHS expanded pulling everyone back east …this year or last PC was 500 kids over and CHS was 500 … CHS had one of the state’s largest enrollments (>2500??) a couple of years ago and has one of the smallest in the area now (1700??) with room for 500 more kids that will be filled from PC next year … there are >500 kids “sloshing” back and forth across the Town of Cary … nothing to do with diversity ….  You are right it does not need to be like that … better planning might have made it less disruptive …. “Edge” schools on the county boundaries cause a ripple as they suck students from one side of the county to the other …

Don't forget Green Hope HS

Don't forget Green Hope HS right in between the path of Cary HS and Panther Creek.

Did GHS get caught in that

Did GHS get caught in that tsunami that pushed HS and MS kids from one west and than east over two or three years?

Mr. Hui?

What is WCPSS doing about this?

States have to apply for the money from a special fund to stabilize state and local budgets. In their applications, the government says states must commit to improvement in areas like teacher quality, data systems, academic standards and tests and supporting struggling schools

http://news14.com/content/school_news/607172/cms-waits-to-hear-amount-of-stimulus-help/Default.aspx

Stimulus Guidance Spotlights Teacher Evaluations

http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2009/04/01/28guidance.h28.html

New guidance from the Department of Education spells out in more detail how states, districts, and institutions of higher education will receive money under the $39.8 billion State Fiscal Stabilization Fund and the $8.8 billion Government Services Fund, as well as how they may use it. Unveiling the first payments at a school in Capitol Heights, Md., Mr. Duncan emphasized that the funding could be a once-in-a-lifetime phenomenon

Finally, a Thaw in the Busing Dialogue

http://venitapeyton.com/2009/04/finally-thaw-in-busing-dialogue.html
I now have it, on good authority, of a possible thaw in discussions between blacks and whites on the matter. Two prominent men have been in communication behind the scenes. People who I know, who have the ability to influence others. Yet, they currently choose to remain hidden from view.

There is an understatement!

There is an understatement! Slight erosion of political will--for almost a decade WCPSS has been reassigning thousands of students every year, many of them have been the same students multiply reassigned year after year. All the while, parents have been asking for stability. I would love to know the actual cumulative number of students targeted for reassignment from 1996-2009 broken out by year. Just the proposed number of students, not the actual final number after grandfathering, etc. That would give us a metric of an entire matriculation period of students to study. I would estimate that over that span of time 90,000 students or more have been slated for reassignments. Our system now has what approximately 132,000? students. And to what degree of success has it led? I would guess it is a sizeable portion, perhaps significant enough to erode the political will of the voters.

Help?

A little off subject, but pertaining to reassignment - does anyone have information for any/all of the converted MYR schools showing track closings etc. due to under-enrollment? I could really use that...

 Thanks!

 Louise

End of the day, I hope!

We are supposed to get track REASSIGNMENT info today.  We will see!

Do you already have current track counts for those converted schools?

No

I don't - would love to have what the current counts are!

Thanks!

I think there is a major

I think there is a major erosion of political will in the county to keep electing board members who don't listen to citizens. Ineffective assignment policies are part of the discussion. But many parents have tired of forced assignment to YR schools. And many parents are outraged by some of the bizarre decisions the board continues to make... Forging ahead with MYR conversions which waste precious educational funds, ramming through a quick decisions to change daily school hours -- just in the last week.

Interesting that others hold the wcpss assignment model in such high regard, yet no other school systems seem to be in any hurry to follow suit. Ironically, the conference was held in Chapel Hill, one of the few school districts in the state which as refused to become part of it's county system.

Oh the hypocrisy!

You're right, for the "illiberals" educational "reform" is a medicine best forced down someone else's throat...

Very ironic isn't it

And where does Chapel Hill fall in the rankings? Hint, it's well above Wake County.

Just had this

Just had this conversation  over breakfast with my spouse.  I feel that even the best intentioned folks who say they are against the policies are not strong willed enough to forego the power of the Kool Aid.   Hummmm... is Hill an example of that?

He's blaming the lack on diversity on the lack of "diverse" housing (see the article in today's paper).  So sorry Kevin that we didn't decide to move into public housing or a million dollar home to bring "diversity" to the schools. 

And besides, the town I live in DOES HAVE A VARIETY OF DIVERSE HOMES from Habitat homes to million dollar homes.... and we fall in the lower end of the middle of the two according to one of the criteria of WCPSS "diversity".... the value of a home!

I'd really like to know the

I'd really like to know the indoctrination process for the new BOE members that turns them into Kool-Aid drinkers..... only Ron seems to be immune.

I think that's easy

Accept whatever WCPSS administration tells you a fact. Do not question their rationale. Listen to WEP as being the voice of reason.  Do not cause waves with minority community "leaders."  Be afraid to ask tough questions and make tough decisions with the school administration. Remember most voters don't have school age children, so ignore parent's concerns. And of course for some, enjoy as many free lunches as possible.

Anything I didn't cover?

Don't mess with someone

Don't mess with someone else's district......

Please consult "Old Raleigh" before voting on anything - they hold all the power......

:) Silly me.

:) Silly me.

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