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Leesville parents are now accusing the school system of "planning To cheat taxpayers out of $350,000 by operating Leesville Elementary and Leesville Middle on the year-Round school calendar."

That's the headline on the press release sent out this afternoon by Lisa Boneham, founder of Concerned and Committed Leesville Parents. She's blasting the school board's work session vote on Tuesday not to study converting some year-round schools to a traditional calendar.

"They used the ‘it’s too late because families have already made plans…’ excuse on us with our Elementary School, and this time they know they are completely wrong." Boneham said in the press release.

It is not too late. The fact is, families and teachers have not even been given their track assignments, so no one has been able to make future plans."

BTW, there's a reason she's citing $250,000 for Leesville Road Middle instead of the $150,000 mentioned by staff on Tuesday as the typical cost for a year-round middle school. She's also factoring in the $100,000 initial cost for purchasing track-out carts.

Here's the full text of the press release:


WCPSS Is Planning To Cheat Taxpayers Out Of $350,000 by Operating Leesville Elementary and Leesville Middle on the Year-Round School Calendar

Raleigh, North Carolina, March 25, 2009. The Leesville school community experienced a destructive and divisive year round school conversion at Leesville Elementary School in 2007. At that time, WCPSS claimed that the conversion was necessary in order to keep up with “explosive growth”. Eventually, the School Board studied the facts surrounding that conversion. They realized that converting Leesville Elementary to the year-round calendar was indeed unnecessary and would be a mistake. Unfortunately, by that time, all they could say to the Leesville families was “sorry, it’s too late in the process so we cannot change our minds now”.

Many current Leesville families vividly remember that negative experience, and they are not about to let it happen in their community again. Last fall, WCPSS proposed converting Leesville Middle School to the year-round calendar. The reason given for this conversion was “excessive growth in the area with no relief in sight”. Upon studying the growth projections, WCPSS realized that growth in the Leesville area was not at all excessive. In fact, based on WCPSS staff projections, it was determined that growth in the Leesville area is very flat and will be that way for many years to come.

What was initially a desire to keep families together has grown into a fact based mission proving that the Leesville schools should be operating on the less expensive and highly desired traditional calendar. During the past 3 years, this group of 1200+ Concerned and Committed Leesville parents has come together like no other grassroots organization of its’ type, and it looks like their efforts to stay informed and involved in school assignment issues should finally be paying off.

But after yesterday’s Budget Work Session, with an informal vote of 5-4, it appears that WCPSS still plans to operate Leesville Elementary and Leesville Elementary on the year round calendar, even after knowing that this will unnecessarily waste $350,000 of taxpayer funds. ($250,000 at Leesville Middle and $100,000 at Leesville Elementary) The excuse given by those voting to continue with the wasteful MYR conversions is “it is too late now to make the changes…” When the school system should be looking for ways to cut unnecessary spending, operating Leesville Middle and Leesville Elementary on the traditional calendar would instantly and painlessly cut $350,000 out of the budget. CCLP is hopeful that the School Board will take more time to study the facts and will formally vote on making these changes very soon.

“They used the ‘it’s too late because families have already made plans…’ excuse on us with our Elementary School, and this time they know they are completely wrong”, said Lisa Boneham, founder of CCLP. “It is not too late. The fact is, families and teachers have not even been given their track assignments, so no one has been able to make future plans. I especially feel for those who have to rely on childcare and track-out camps, because they are truly in limbo. They cannot confirm any of those things until track assignments are made. People cannot even make summer vacation plans yet. Besides the fact that the overwhelming majority of our families and teachers desperately want to keep Leesville Middle on the traditional calendar, we are still ‘up in the air’ waiting for track assignments. Saying that they have to go through with the year-round conversion, knowing that they will waste $250,000 at the Middle school alone ‘because they cannot upset the families who have already made plans’ is unacceptable. Plans have NOT been made. Making the decision to keep the desired traditional calendar will not upset us. Forcing a year-round conversion when it is not justified is what is upsetting.”

While converting a school to the multi-track year-round calendar does increase the capacity of a school, that additional capacity is not needed in Northwest Raleigh for many years to come. There is currently an overabundance of space at several area schools that is not being utilized, and according to Growth Management, there are no plans to utilize that excess space during the next 3-5 years. CCLP sees this as a waste as well.

“There is absolutely no reason to waste $350,000 by operating these 2 schools on the year-round calendar. Leesville Elementary and Leesville Middle can both operate on the traditional calendar, and can comfortably hold all base students who are assigned to the schools---and there will still be space available for future growth. Leesville Elementary will have 693 base students attending the school with a traditional capacity of 860, while Leesville Middle expects 1095 base students with a traditional capacity of 1222. Knowing the facts, but making the conscious choice to operate those schools for 12 months during the year (when they can educate all of their current base students in a 10 month school year) is completely irresponsible” said Angela Davis-Williams, a founding member of CCLP.

Boneham believes that everyone deserves transparency, not constant spin and hidden truths. “What they won’t admit to the general public is that Leesville Middle will now have 176 fewer base students assigned to the school for 2009-10. Our enrollment is decreasing drastically, so wasting money to create additional capacity that is not needed now and will not be needed for at least 4-5 years is insane. Now that the facts have been released, it is obvious that there is no justification for forcing another unwanted, unnecessary, and wasteful conversion on the Leesville community.”

“We have provided clear data and alternative options showing that converting LRMS to a year-round calendar is the wrong thing to do for so many reasons. The recent updated enrollment numbers are the icing on the cake. A year-round conversion at Leesville Middle would unnecessarily waste taxpayer dollars when we should all be looking for ways to cut expenses instead. WCPSS plans to fund the conversion, and will also increase annual operational expenses by over 20% while decreasing the number of students attending the school. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out what a poor decision that would be” said Eric Blau, parent of 2 children in the Leesville community. “The facts have been given to the School Board many times during the past several months. For the School Board to continue ignoring the facts and blindly proceed with this unjustified change would be very irresponsible.”

If the community’s overwhelming desire to keep their families together wasn’t enough to convince the School Board to stop Mandatory Year Round, the undeniable facts appear to be exactly what is needed in order to bring positive change to the Leesville campus. One thing is for sure…CCLP and their mission of ”One Campus One Traditional Calendar For Leesville” will continue to insist on transparency and honesty, and they are here to stay.

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some emails address for the

some emails address for the budgetary concerns and accountability regarding WCPSS and their wasteful spending habits: (might be worth an email)

NC State Auditor
HotLine@ncauditor.net

NC DPI
RGarland@dpi.state.nc.us

fbsinfo@dpi.state.nc.us

>
INTERNAL AUDIT &
ADVISORY SERVICES

CONTACT :: Dare W. O'Connor, CPA, CFE
doconnor@dpi.state.nc.us

ACCOUNTABILITY SERVICES

CONTACT :: Louis M. (Lou) Fabrizio, Ph.D., Director, Accountability Services

DIVISION MISSION :: The mission of the Accountability Services Division is to promote the academic achievement of all North Carolina public school students and to assist stakeholders in understanding and gauging this achievement against state and national standards. The major thrust of this mission is three-fold: the design and development of reliable and valid assessment instruments, the uniform implementation of and access to suitable assessment instruments for all students; and the provision of accurate and statistically appropriate reports.
(Revised September 2005)

really? c'mon down to WCPSS and see financial mistakes!

Auditors Cite NC Central For Financial Mistakes
http://www.mync.com/site/page/rss/20

Thank You Keung!

Hey Keung:

Thanks SO MUCH for posting this. We need all the help we can get to expose this FIASCO before it DOES get to be too late to make the changes that should have been made months ago.

I am so thankful to Bev Clark, Ron Margiotta, Horace Tart and Anne McLaurin for realizing that there are several instances in the county where MYR is just wasteful and WRONG. Instead of thinking "it's not my district so I don't care", they were willing to study the facts. I agree that it truly is a shame that our own Board Representative continues to ignore the facts. Unfortunately, she won't even speak up for our schools-----but I have to believe that armed with the facts she WILL do the "right thing"---she DOES have time.

LES and LRMS certainly aren't the only schools slated for YR operation next year that should be operating on the traditional calendar instead. They are just the only ones where I have the undeniable facts proving how wasteful it will be if they operate those schools on the YR calendar.

With all of the Leesville families and staff members still waiting for track assignments, the Board can't pull the old "It's Too Late" excuse on us again. While we all would have loved to have childcare, vacations, camps, and days off arranged by now, the truth is, we have NOT been able to do any of that yet. AND, we still have 5 months until the traditional schools start the new school year, so you can imagine how THRILLED families and staff members would be to hear "traditional calendar" at the Leesville Schools.

Call me crazy, but I still DO think the School Board will re-vote and they will do the RIGHT THING and make the decision NOW to operate some of the MYR schools on the traditional calendar.

The School Board and Growth Management have had facts since last October. Why they have chosen to wait so long to even speak about this is a mystery, but now that they've begun the discussions, I do think they will make some positive changes. Given the "Economic Hurricane" they would be crazy NOT to.

With a budget as large as WCPSS works with, $350,000 may not seem like a lot of money, but there are many programs and salaries that could be supported by that money instead of just unnecessarily wasting it.

We all need to stay informed and involved and keep exposing the truth.

Happy Weekend Everyone!

What does Patti Head say to

What does Patti Head say to you when you question her motive behind the madness Lisa? She hasn't got anything left in her *magic bag of lies*, anymore has she?

No Response From Patti

Hey Big Picture:

Unfortunately, I haven't received any responses from Patti lately.  I actually have a pretty "friendly" relationship with her, as much as she knows my feelings regarding the failed MYR experiment.

In the beginning, she was dead set on the "explosive growth" so she defended that as a valid reason for the conversion----even though we presented her with facts and options.

Once she realized that growth in our area was flat and there was not "explosive growth", she changed her tune and told me that we HAD TO CONVERT to YR to make space for the additional hundreds of children who would be assigned to the school after staff cleaned up the feeder patterns and made changes to improve peer continuity.  One line she used was "I know you all love your school, but you have to understand that there are hundreds of other children who would like to attend your wonderful school too, and we can't let them in without making these big changes that are being proposed in the 3-year plan..."  (not her exact words, but close) 

I think Patti believed Chuck Dulaney when he said that the node moves he was proposing would increase our enrollment to the point that we'd have 1500 kids attending LRMS and would HAVE TO OPERATE YR.  (in reality, when the latest numbers came out, after all of the shuffling of kids we'll only have around 1100 base students attending LRMS--with a traditional capacity of 1222)

Now that she doesn't have a valid reason to support YR at LRMS, we just get silence.  The more people I hear from in our community who CAN'T BELIEVE they are using the lame "IT'S TOO LATE..." excuse, the more infuriated I become. 

I do remain encouraged that the 5 who voted against making MYR reversals have to be re-thinking how they voted during the informal vote last week.  Hopefully, they have seen how ridiculous that excuse is, and will vote differently when they re-vote soon. 

The media is becoming VERY interested in all of this---after all they LOVE to have verifiable SOLID FACTS, and of course they're all over something that smells like government CHEATING.  Unless someone declines to comment when asked the important questions, the public will finally see what a HUGE WASTE MYR is.

I hate to say this Lisa B,

I hate to say this Lisa B, but while you are being respectful and *friendly* with Patti Head, it is not recriprocal. You expect honesty and integrity and get lies and punishment. You look for her to eventually take care of her *own* community, while she has such distain toward you and Leesville that she will do anything in her power to hurt you. You have convinced 4 from the BoE to deal with the truth but Patti Head will defend her dysfunctional MYR legacy through retirement and beyond.

now ,now

Head said she feels good about her eight years on the board.

"I feel like I've done the very best job I can," she said. "I feel like I've led with integrity. It's time for someone else to step in."

see??  maybe Patti (and Rosa and Lori and Eleanor and Kevin who ALL voted against re-visiting MYR) feels as if she's "protecting" schools with MYR, after all FACTS show that F&R% opt out the most, and now Stough's (Leesville's opt-out last year) F&R has increased with NO relief in sight, and while they projected 22% at LES, we stand at around 17% and stagnant growth, I dont' know about Ballentine's % of F&R, but their growth is also declining.....maybe Patti and all her supporters PLANNED it this way???   and they point fingers at those of us trying to reverse MYR (and save money)....tsk tsk...

 just sayin'......

here here

Ballentine's F&R #'s are somewhere around 20% now and with the 145+ kids being removed and not replaced it is expected to jump to near 30%, as best I can recall.

Growth has all but stopped here and capacity/usage is declining 15-20%, depending on whose #'s you believe, with the latest reassignment fiasco.  We await this week to get notice via the mail about forced track changes.

tsk tsk is right!  and a WHOLE lot more!

shouldv'e added the

sarcasm on/off button....

I can still HOPE, can't I?? :)

Hey Angela & Big Picture:

Have you been talking to my husband or something??   :)  He constantly tells me "past actions determine future actions" and he thinks I'm the LEESVILLE LOONY for expecting logic and common sense when dealing with politicians and their hidden agendas.  I can't even talk about this mess with him anymore...

Maybe I'm stubborn (OK, not MAYBE-- I AM) but with such UNDENIABLE FACTS I just can't possibly imagine WHY anyone would choose to continue with the waste when they realize that's all it is---UNNECESSARY WASTE.  AND, it is hurting families and communities in the process.  UGH!!

I completely realize that my husband is correct with the "past actions...." comment, but for the sake of our family and the THOUSANDS of Leesville students and school staff members who are STILL ANXIOUSLY WAITING for the Leesville Campus to be all traditional, I have to remain positive and I can't give up.

You are awesome!

Thank you for what you do!!!  I hope you have sent all the facts and figures proving how much MYR will waste and how useless it is for now to all the addresses Angela came up with.  Wouldn't it be fun to light a fire under the board!!!!  Keep it up!  We appreciate you!

Don't get me wrong Angela, I

Don't get me wrong Angela, I love *Susie Sunshine*. The way she continues to passionately forge ahead is the only thing that has kept the Leesville cause alive this long. I just think her respectful kindness is not being returned. Keep it up Lisa B. You inspire us all.

hey one of her biggest fans and supporters

fact finder even!  :)

I am amazed by her neverending-optimism as well!

Check it out!

Wow - here's a March 7, 2007 post by Keung on this blogsite, breaking down MYR costs:

http://blogsarchive.newsobserver.com/wakeed/index.php?title=year_round_operating_costs&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

TWO YEARS AGO!!!

GO!! Wiki-Louise!!

YOU rock!!!! 

 

Mr. Hui?

any idea what it would cost to take out an "ad" with this press release? I've tried navigating the N&O advertising section to no avail..
Thanks! :)

Try 836-5600 or 829-4600,

Try 836-5600 or 829-4600.

Thank you!

Thank you!

Excellent idea AngelaW.  It

Excellent idea AngelaW.  It does appear that an investigative story by Mr. Hui can and should be done as well.  Just today I *enlightened* 40+ people who were clueless regarding this plan.

Will the N & O be covering

Will the N & O be covering this mayhem in a *real story* for all to see Mr. Hui? The public deserves to know this before it is allowed to proceed. Blogs serve a purpose but hardly anyone knows about them. Thank you in advance.

Keung Has Plans

Hey Big Picture:

Keung is obviously aware of the situation, and I am confident that he'll do a story soon.

jeez, hope it is sooner

jeez, hope it is sooner rather than later, as they could vote on this next Tuesday the 31st!

Will the N & O be covering

Will the N & O be covering this mayhem in a *real story* for all to see Mr. Hui? The public deserves to know this before it is allowed to proceed. Blogs serve a purpose but hardly anyone knows about them. Thank you in advance.

My apologies for duplicate.

My apologies for duplicate. Pushed submit twice.

Perdue Doesn’t Like NC Class Size Increase Talk

http://wake.mync.com/site/wake/news/story/30734/perdue-doesnt-like-nc-class-size-increase-talk

...

Why is WCPSS cutting programs for students due to budget constraints yet is hell-bent on funding MYR? So far, AG services are being reduced, long-term suspension programs are being cut, CIS coordinator positions will no longer be funded...yet, gosh darn it, $100,000 per MYR school continues.

This cold-hearted Board simply refuses to understand or acknowledge how destructive MYR is to families and communities. You would think seeing dollar amounts attached to these decisions would wake them up. It is outrageous that the Board would choose to jeopardize and get rid of educational programs rather than revisit the MYR failure.

Keep it up!

They have had "proof" for the failure of this entire MYR fiasco for many years - I'm serious! They have chosen over and over to ignore irrefutable facts, tons of "been there, done that" reports, years of research - even their own findings! It is unbelievable what they have gotten away with.

Here's an excerpt from a document I drew up several years back explaining why the MYR concept is destined to failure - this part came from a WEP presentation I attended exactly FOUR YEARS AGO when Bill McNeal was superintendent:

"I am disappointed in the Wake County School Board for knowing this information, but still continuing on a path that will not succeed. Where are the success stories?? Even a Power Point presentation by the WCPSS Administration in February, 2005, listed the following findings on mandatory year-round schools:

 • Mandatory year-round has not been successful in other districts; the districts who use year-round as a choice option are the most successful

 • Siblings are not always able to be on the same track

 • Increased transportation costs • Forces a change in the family structure with vacations, family time, etc.

 • Child care problematic

 • Difficulty scheduling extra-curricular activities because one track is always out of school

 • Huge reassignment plan necessary to fill all schools

Now, their tune has changed, and they are advocating the very concept that they found to be unsuccessful in other districts!"

Those were the findings of WCPSS themselves!See the whole document here: http://www.saveoursummers.com/pdfs/Mandating_Year-round_School_Attendance_in_Wake_County.pdf

I am so thankful for the effort and perseverence of so many parents, teachers, and other concerned citizens. It's making a difference. The more people who expose what they're doing, the better, and I feel a renewed sense of confidence. Thanks, everyone!!

Thank YOU Louise!

Hey Louise:

You have been a pioneer in this MYR Mess, and we are all grateful for what you have done. Without even having a personal interest in the outcome, you have continued to do this for others.  THANK YOU for what you have done, and for continuing to expose the truth.

I DO think we are making a difference.  You are awesome!

BTW has WCPSS acknowledged

BTW has WCPSS acknowledged that the proof was given to them last year? It appears as though they chose to hold your facts as long possible to use the *too late* excuse. Thanks to you they failed. You have exposed the truth and provided the perfect opportunity for WCPSS to finally act honorably. The ball is in their court now. Good Luck and Bravo!

Sent this in November

I send the board an alternative proposal for Leesville Middle to keep it traditional back on November 22nd, over 4 months ago, before the student assignment final draft was even finished.  I made the following point:

Reduction in enrollment removes the need for year-round
conversion, saving WCPSS the expense of the conversion and removing the
need for 2-1/2 months of additional transportation expense busing
students through June, July and August.  This cost savings is important
when the district's budget is being cut and classroom funding is in
danger.

It seems they have chosen to ignore this and other warnings about budget and cost savings and now claim it's "too late."  It's too late because they themselves ignored feedback.

It Was A Great Alternative

Hey Eric:

I am still amazed that they (Growth Management and 7 Board Members) ignored your proposal. I saw it, and I know that a lot of time and careful thought went into putting it all together.

It was not just a "written proposal" with "possible ideas".  Eric went down to Growth Management and plugged his ideas into Chuck Dulaney's computer model, which then "spit out"  the results.  This would have been something that Chuck could have implemented, and his department could have even taken credit for it!  :)

The more we get the truth out there, the closer we come to transparency and HONEST decision making!

Thanks for all you have done and continue to do Eric.

What did they have to say

What did they have to say about your proposal back then Eric?

Beverley Clark responded

Beverley Clark responded saying that she would look at it and that she only supports MYR in cases of extreme growth where there are simply no alternatives.  She did not believe this was the case with LRMS given that nearby middle schools like West Millbrook and Carroll have spare capacity.  West Millbrook is under 80% crowding and Carroll is at about 90%.  As you know, Beverley voted against MYR conversion along with Ron.

I never received a response from Growth & Planning regarding my proposal until Chuck Dulaney finally responded on Jan. 30th after I continued to point out how MYR is causing huge F&R disparities in the elementary schools in the area.  He reiterated the fact that more seats at LRMS are needed for some reason despite available seats at neighboring schools and that the NW area of the county has no YR middle schools so LRMS is being converted to provide that option.  This despite the fact that the nearest YR middle schools, Durant and East Cary are the two least crowded middle schools in all of WCPSS, operating at 71.3% and 42.7% crowding respectively.

That is nice to know. Ms.

That is nice to know. Ms. Clark's actions indicate a strong desire to make fact based decisions. She is not pressured to support destructive policies when she has clear facts at her disposal. Once again you have to wonder where Ms. Head's extreme for Leesville comes from.

there are two letters to the

there are two letters to the editor today (neither of which is mine, surprise!) on this Leesville "lunacy" but they aren't online yet....keep spreading the word!

Thanks Wiki Angela

Hey Wiki:

Thanks for providing the links to these letters, and a SPECIAL THANKS to Lisa C and Aggie K for sending them!  We are all so fortunate to be part of a large and involved community.  The more we get these facts out, the closer we come to keeping our community TOGETHER.

Leesville lunacy is a

Leesville lunacy is a perfect term.  No excuses acceptable on this one.

Surprised it's *only* 350K

I wouldn't be surprised if it's more than $350K. Great job!

No doubt.  We all know they

No doubt.  We all know they estimate high when it serves their agenda and they estimate low when it serves their agenda.  Probably closer to $500 K.

Rock On Lisa B! I went into

Rock On Lisa B!
I went into *blog hibernation* out of frustration, and came back to this incredible press release. Perfect! Just wondering; you continually give the school board the benefit of the doubt with respect and support. What kind of respect and support do they give to you? Might be time to step it up and really get angry?

Cary's Town Council approved

Cary's Town Council approved a proposal Thursday night to host a county-wide forum focusing on education issues.

http://wake.mync.com/site/wake/news/story/30678/cary-to-host-education-forum

Lisa, Eric, Angela and

Lisa, Eric, Angela and everybody else who is working so hard on this--you are amazing! Don't give up.

Just thinking... Chuck

Just thinking... Chuck Dulaney and his Growth Management staff cost Wake County $1.2M per year. Given growth has nearly ground to a halt, taxpayers might wonder why we continue to spend that money (I'm assuming Chuck's budget hasn't been cut, hopefully I'm wrong).

Great idea. No growth means

Great idea. No growth means no need for growth management.

Great Job Lisa

Hopefully they will "see" the truth! Now if everyone else knew how bad this board was wasting money....

Go Lisa

Thanks Mr. Hui for reporting this

Mama Mia!

MOST EXCELLENT WORK Lisa B.!
You go girl, expose this true mass of idiocy for what it is!

We have to let teachers, programs and education go bye, bye because we need to operate empty class rooms at MYR schools for WHAT REASON CHUCK? FOR WHAT REASON SCHOOL BOARD?

As Lisa says, "There is currently an overabundance of space at several area schools that is not being utilized"

And she is exactly right!

Hey Tax payers, did you know we have under capacity MYR schools hidden all over the county. Since Easter is coming, should we play "hunt the top 10+ under utilized forced converted calendar schools" and the first one to fill up their basket wins a trip to meet with the "chair occupiers" of the wcpss to reach into THEIR pockets and get YOUR money back!

Excellent!

Excellent!

Don't stop!!

Don't stop Lisa- hundreds are with you. What a huge waste of money, especially in these times. How loud can we shout this?? It's not too late, LRMS principal sent out a voice message that track assignments will be out late-mid to late April. No stated reason for the delay!
Go CCLP!!

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