The Rev. William Barber, head of the state NAACP, has laid out the group's prescription for improving student performance and why it says socioeconomic diversity must be supported.
During Monday's mass meeting, Barber listed "what it takes to have a high quality, constitutional school." Those things, presented the day before the Wake County school board eliminated diversity from the student assignment policy, are:
* Stop resegregation
* Equity in funding
* Smaller classrooms
* A focus on math, science, reading and history
* High quality teachers
* Parental involvement
* Eliminating inequalities in suspensions, graduations and academic performance
The group also listed what it called its "seven compelling reasons why we must stop re-segregation and support socio-economic diversity."
* It is the law.
* It promotes academic achievement.
* It benefits overall school ecology by promoting a culture of success.
* It is more economical.
* It results in higher levels of parental involvement.
* It teaches children the skills necessary to succeed in a global economy.
* It benefits our most at-risk students.
Click here for this handout from the meeting for more info.
Barber said he would have presented this information, along with a history lesson on school segregation and integration in North Carolina, if he had been given his 45 minutes at a school board meeting.
Some of this info did make it into Tuesday's board meeting. School board member Keith Sutton, who had attended the mass meeting, recited some of the info Tuesday.
(I won't return from vacation until June 3. I've written some posts that will run over the next couple of weeks, but I won't be checking the site until I return.)

Comments
Some of the dumbest points I
Fri, 05/21/2010 - 19:06 — aquaman4life68Some of the dumbest points I have ever seen. If all of those things work? Why hasn't it worked the past 30 years????? How about that Rev.? Care to answer that???
Actually
Sat, 05/22/2010 - 02:35 — TrailerParkGirlActually, I think some of the things mentioned like smaller class size and parental involvement do have a positive impact. The problem has been that those things have not been the focus here. For one thing, the last thing I would say about the funding here is that it has been equitable and same thing for equity in matching students with effective resources.
What I don't understand is how Rev Barber doesn't get that the forced bussing model used to accomplish 6200 actually reduced opportunity for parental involvement for some families.
Has "forced busing" replaced "social engineering" as the
Sat, 05/22/2010 - 07:31 — Athey01new spin term? Regardless, why would low income parents be willing to have their children bused for over an hour round-trip? In order for them to get a better education. Why would a high income parent be willing to have their children bused to a magnet school for over an hour round-trip? In order to get a better education. Life is about trade-offs, in order to receive A, I must give up B. I think it is that simple.
Here's the issue
Sat, 05/22/2010 - 12:31 — TrailerParkGirlThe "trade-offs" were not equitable.
40 Tests
Sat, 05/22/2010 - 15:06 — danofncThe 37.5% for Olive Chapel is accurate, but you're talking about 40 tests. Is that really a large enough sample? Do you know if those kids that didn't pass are new to WCPSS?
Did you notice the difference in average class sizes between the schools you mention? Are you willing to support that across the district?
Briarcliff: 3rd grade: 20, 4th grade: 17, 5th grade: 13
Brassfield: 22, 26 and 24
Olive Chapel: 22, 22 and 24
Last year, Briarcliff had 87 5th graders, Brassfield had 119, and Olive Chapel had 151. Based on that, Brassfield would need to add 4 teachers and Olive Chapel would have to add 5 or 6....just for the 5th grade.
How did you determine?
Tue, 05/25/2010 - 01:58 — TrailerParkGirlHow did you determine the average class size?
This year Briarcliff has:
94 3rd graders and 4 teachers or 23.5 average; 104 4th graders and 4 teachers or 26 average; and 69 5th graders and 3 teachers or 23 average
Olive Chapel has 182 3rd graders and 8 teachers or 22.75 average.
Everything here is allocated on a per student basis and the Principal has the flexibility to "trade" certain things. For example, TA hours for teacher hours, but have to give up more than 1 TA hour to equal a teacher hour. I can't imagine, even with trading hours, how Briarcliff would have managed to have such low ratios last year. If they did, what is different this year.
Do I think the class sizes here are too large? Yes.
Would I support scaling class size? Yes, to a point. Where I'm from the school with the most ESL and ED students has small class sizes (15). However, the district has smaller class sizes in general. The ES have between 19-21.
ncschoolreportcards.org Wha
Tue, 05/25/2010 - 06:14 — danofncncschoolreportcards.org
What district are you from? I know you've been asked before, but I really think it's relevant to know exactly what you're using for comparison. I'm not asking for your name or any personal information.
I grew up in Edgecombe County. If we moved back to Tarboro, my kids would go to the exact same schools that I went to in the 80's. There aren't a lot of comparisons I can make between WCPSS and ECPS that mean much.
The performance of the ED
Sat, 05/22/2010 - 13:42 — Tony_LucasThe performance of the ED students also has to do with the makeup of the ED students at that school. To compare Olive Chapel to Briarcliff without knowing the makeup of the ED population at either school is misleading. We don't know if the ED body at Olive Chapel is made up of more LEP or students with disabilities when compared to Briarcliff or vice versa.
But the problem is that currently if you look at the schools in Wake County, those with higher populations of ED students have fewer resources than those with lower populations. The funding of the schools is the big problem and many are afraid that if we allow for a school to become 80%+ ED that school will be at a huge disadvantage compared to a less than 10% ED school. Furthermore, if we look at the location of where these schools will be the high ED population will be Southeast Raleigh, which is predominately African-American and Hispanic and the low ED population will be Cary/Western Wake which is predominately White. This heightens the fears of some of the threat of resegregation.
I know you are more civil in your discussions than many of the other posters, but I just wanted to give you my view on things.
Here's what
Tue, 05/25/2010 - 03:44 — TrailerParkGirlHere's what I can tell from assignment maps and some personal knowledge. The ED students at Olive Chapel at least in part (likely primarily) consist of a spot node next to Briarcliff and I believe some students from downtown Raleigh who live near Washington. Briarcliff is a neighborhood school, except for the students that attend Olive Chapel. That spot node is the only "hole." It does consist of an apartment complex. However, there's other rental housing right next to that spot node, which is assigned to Briarcliff. Having lived in that area, students living in that spot node should not be signficantly different from the surrounding rental housing assigned to Briarcliff. ED scores at Washington, which would be students living next to those assigned to Olive Chapel, are similar to Olive Chapel. The sample size in the example is small, however, people have looked at ED performance versus ED% in school for the system and found very little correlation.
I understand what the fear is. The feared scenerio is what I call Door #1, have ED in one place and do nothing comprehensive to address underlying issues and do not allocate resources accordingly. Policy 6200 was Door #2, disburse ED and do nothing comprehensive to address underlying issues and do not allocate resources accordingly. If you stop and think about which demographic had access to academic success, it was still the same demographic as with Door #1. As others have said, diversity without a diploma doesn't mean much. Also, we already have schools that are almost 80% ED and 90% minority (Brentwood, which only recently was made a magnet). Meanwhile, we have magnets not in high poverty areas that were already <40% ED and they reassigned out more ED kids to an almost 40% non-magnet. Policy 6200 was not consistently applied and it simply was not a viable solution, but you know that as your Mom ran on something other than just keep doing the exact same thing.
IMO one of the hinderences here for ED students has been the ED "can't" labeling and what that has led to subjectively, which is why I couldn't support continuing SES-labeled assignments and where I differed with your Mom's concept. People now automatically use ED as a substitute for low-achieving and NED for high achieving. The focus needs to be shifted off the labels and onto actual needs and objective performance results, regardless of SES.
What can work is Door #3, which is allocating resources according to actual (not presumed) need and addressing underlying issues. The key is focusing on doing whatever it takes to close the achievement gap because education is the great equalizer. If ED students succeed academically that generally leads to higher income, thereby breaking the cycle. Then they can move to WW to be close to their work at IBM, if they so chose. Without that equality of academic success, they attend Olive Chapel in WW with the NED kids for a while but if they are not passing EOGs, by MS they are on the remedial track until drop out with few options in life.
One thing I would suggest is that people try to broaden their views. Yes, SE Raleigh is largely A-A and Hispanic and ED, however, not entirely so. Also, within 5 miles from there are areas that are demographically more like Western Wake or mixed. While WW is predominately NED and White, there are pockets of ED. Also, there are non-Whites. In between and outside those areas are lots of other areas with their own, varying demographics. Our base school is already a community based school and closely reflects the county averages for demographics, both SES and race.
Putting all that together means that community zones in a choice model is viable here. Forced bussing has historically not worked, not just here. Generally, the NED don't have the stomach for it unless they are provided with incentives (magnets) and it morphs into a choice with extra resources for NED/force for ED without extra resources scenerio, which is inherently unequal. You were on to something when you said the vision seemed like a combination of concepts mentioned by multiple people. You were only off when you included Tart. I don't think he ran on anything other than just keep the status quo.
Funding is a problem and it is complex. However, no one is talking about breaking up the system (there's no way the GA would approve in any case), so the "city" center district with low tax, surrounded by higher tax base "suburb" districts is not in play here. Allocations are based on a per student basis. Title 1 funds go to Title 1 schools. So, then the concern seems to become PTA funding sources. One reason that is a problem here is that there's too much having to use the PTA to make up for where the community has fallen short on properly funding education otherwise. As I posted elsewhere, fundraising is not supposed to be the PTA's main function and it is not supposed to replace what "government" should be providing. One issue lately in NC is that a lot of funding is based on income and sales taxes, which are volatile, rather than more stable property taxes. Another issue has been operational funding priorities - $5M PR budgets, millions on ineffective remedial education programs, cutting teachers before central office, etc.
Funding seems to be an area where a number of people of differing viewpoints otherwise find some agreement. I wish the energy used on disagreeing were used to start advocating together for doing better as a community with funding education, including from an equity and priority perspective.
Thank you
Wed, 05/26/2010 - 12:36 — festusMy great hope for the coming few years in Wake County is that we will rally around under performing schools and children. Your post is a real contribution to that possibility.
My greatest fear is a variant of your "door #1." I fear that the debate over assignment policy will (as it has already) become a tug-of-war between BoE members over resources and over where to draw lines. The consequence will be door #1, because those students simply will not be represented in such a tug of war.
*** Applause ***
Tue, 05/25/2010 - 21:48 — ApexterBeautiful post, TPG. I admire the long and studied effort to dig deep and fully understand the situation that has informed your comments.
TPG ... I really enjoy
Tue, 05/25/2010 - 08:12 — user12345TPG ... I really enjoy reading your posts ... I think you have captured the key elements ... diversity advocates like me see us moving from door #1 to door #2 .... simply warehousing the poor and forgetting them ... and it is not like that isn't what happens in most every other place ... I for one would not mind if we had high F&R, Minority schools if they were properly resourced ... what I typically expect to see is affluent parents want resources allocated on merit because they know they will win that battle ... I would prefer that we first leave no child behind and get everyone up to some basic level (10th grade), graduated with some employable skill or ability to enter college ... once we have almost everyone to that base level we can worry about the extras ... ultimately, I want to see Wake become a place where people are indifferent between attending one school over another because they all provide the same above average education .... as long as people feel a need to move from home to home to get into a good school the system is a failure.
Agree with both.... adequate funding to ensure
Tue, 05/25/2010 - 08:47 — Athey01all children are educated is my number one priority, regardless of the composite of the student body. Low performing schools must be provided with additional resources and must have an accountability plan to close the achievement gap. Failure to close the gap will result in replacing the principals/teachers or closing the school. No excuses for failure will be acceptable.
Low performing schools must
Tue, 05/25/2010 - 11:05 — CaryCurmudgeonLow performing schools must be provided with additional resources
and must have an accountability plan to close the achievement gap.
I agree, in fact I think we need more stringent standards. Regardless of whether a school is doing well overall, if a subgroup of students is falling behind then we need resources and a plan (Otherwise, failing students can get hidden inside a "healthy school"). And I agree with accountability for principals. Give them the resources they need, sign them up to a plan, and replace them if they don't execute.
Agree, additional funding require additional accountability
Tue, 05/25/2010 - 11:18 — Athey01otherwise, why spend the money. This is not to say that we should be afraid to try innovative approaches, which may or may not succeed, but someone needs to be keeping score.
I agree that everyone needs
Tue, 05/25/2010 - 08:47 — red_balloonI agree that everyone needs to be brought up to a minimum level. But, with regard to merit, are you opposed to the current allocations for enhanced offerings being opened to all NEDs to compete on the basis of merit? If it helps, the merit assessment can be skewed to favor the disadvantaged.
This is probably a
Tue, 05/25/2010 - 11:16 — user12345This is probably a philosophical argument … is it is better to educate everyone well or a few very well. In theUS , we spend a lot of money on a full spectrum of students …. I think that it is amazing (and proud) the we spend maybe $25k/yr on special ed students who have no change of ever paying society back … I am guessing that is why they are a protected group, otherwise the powerful would have kicked them to the curb …. Note SE teachers were all retained in the last layoff while AP teachers were let go …. In China and India, they use their scarce resources to educate a few very well … which leaves them with a huge underclass and a ruling elite … Some will say “my Johnny” is going to create the next Google and is way more valuable than any ED kids and we should allocate more to Johnny based on his merit … that may actually be true in economic terms but is not a philosophy Americans have embraced …
So, my feeling is that we execute our core mission first – educate ALL kids to some level (I suggest 10th grade) … once that is accomplished expand into more and better education based on merit that challenges the top tier who might well be the growth engine for new businesses and jobs …. I have always felt the smartest kids while they may not reach their potential will compensate and turn out fine while the most vulnerable kids will not compensate … so, I have always deferred to helping the ED kids first …
Please Clarify
Sat, 05/22/2010 - 14:19 — jeffrey1High ED schools typically
Sun, 05/23/2010 - 00:01 — Tony_LucasHigh ED schools typically have high teacher turnover rates and new teachers. Also, their equipment and textbooks tend to be older as money is used for other items. One example of money being used for something else is the principal could choose to hire an extra security personnel rather than an extra teacher leading to more students in a classroom. PTAs help pay for support programs that would help students performing poorly and without the funds high ED schools will not be able to have these programs.
In a sense, the low ED schools will become the new magnets that everyone wants to go to. To level the playing field between the high ED schools and low ED schools, high ED schools will require more money as has happened in other districts with community schools.
High ED schools typically
Sun, 05/23/2010 - 01:49 — jeffrey1All the more reason to provide incentive programs for teachers to remain in high ED schools. I would gladly pay more in taxes to support such a program.
Any evidence of this in a Wake County school?
I've located the budget of a very low ED elementary school in Wake County, and reproduced it below:
Income
Art By Me 7,000.00
Book Fair - Fall 10,000.00
Book Fair - Spring 7,000.00
Citipass Books 11,500.00
Directory Advertising 800.00
GM Box Tops 1,750.00
Membership Dues 1,800.00
Merchant Rewards 2,500.00
Miscellaneous Income 50.00
Newletter Sponsor 800.00
Pencil Dispenser Sales 350.00
Residual balance from last year 8,000.00
Salamander Fund 4,000.00
School Apparel 5,000.00
Spirit Nights 500.00
Spring Event 8,000.00
Start-Up Funds 6,500.00
Year Book Sales 7,000.00
Total Income 82,550.00
Expense
Art By Me expenses 4,900.00
Bank & Accounting Charges 400.00
Book Fair - Fall Expense 7,000.00
Book Fair - Spring Expense 7,000.00
Citipass Book Expenses 5,750.00
Copy Expense 3,000.00
Council Dues - Wake County PTA 50.00
Cultural Arts 8,000.00
Curriculum Enhancements 1,000.00
Directory 1,000.00
Discretionary Board Fund 1,000.00
Field Day 2,500.00
Friday Folders 550.00
GM Box Top/Soup Label Expense 200.00
Grandparents Breakfast 1,000.00
Grounds Committee 700.00
Hospitality 1,600.00
Insurance 280.00
Math-a-thon Expense 400.00
Membership Dues - Nat'l & State 1,520.00
Newsletter 1,500.00
Pencil Dispenser Expenses 300.00
Positive Behavior Support 1,000.00
Postage/Supplies 275.00
Reading Incentives 100.00
Reflections 250.00
School Apparel Expenses 7,000.00
Special Projects 3,275.00
Spring Event Expenses 3,000.00
Student Technology Upgrades 3,000.00
Teacher & TA of the Yr Banquets 350.00
Teacher Appreciation 1,150.00
Teacher Start-up Funds 6,500.00
Year Book Expenses 7,000.00
Total Expense 82,550.00
As you can see, this is probably one of the bigger PTA budgets. This PTA does an admirable job of providing cultural arts programs ($8000) and some technology upgrades ($3000). And there is a small token amount spent on curriculum enhancements and positive behavior support.
Isn't the school you're
Sun, 05/23/2010 - 06:33 — danofncIsn't the school you're speaking of basically brand new? It's not unusual for a new school to need few technology upgrades because usually schools are built "up to date".
Book Fairs impact achievement because they put books in kids' hands.
But, suppose the $2000 you call "a token amount" was half the budget for the year? Do you not think that pride in a school has an impact on achievement?
Not a single thing listed is likely to make a ton of impact. But, there are a lot more than you're willing to admit that could make some impact.
Built in 2000
Mon, 05/24/2010 - 17:56 — jeffrey1Not sure what your idea of brand new is, but the school is 10 years old. It is likely that the technology is dated.
With regard to book fair, it is a money raising event. Books are sold to kids in order to raise money for the PTA.
Not sure what else on that list is likely to make an impact.
Just a guess
Mon, 05/24/2010 - 18:33 — magnetParent"Math-a-thon" and "Reflections" are academic competitions.
"Curriculum" Enhancements sounds like it has academic beneifts.
Same with "Special Projects", "Cultural Arts" and "Teacher Start-up Funds"
BTW - dated technology is usually provided the WCPSS budget. I am guessing that this is for additional technology, not upgrades.
PTA budget
Sun, 05/23/2010 - 10:00 — turnerk1The ES one of my kids attends has a PTA budget that is about $25,000. Our budget goes primarily to teacher grants (both competitve grants and money that is given to all teachers), running monthly PTA events most of which are directly educational, paying for cultural arts events and teacher appreciation events. Frankly, I don't know how our budget would look to an outsider who didn't understand how the various line items are spent. But, I feel certain that our PTA not only helps enhance the education of every student in our school, but we also help to make our school an attractive place for teachers and that we are contributing to our very low yearly teacher turnover.
choice
Sat, 05/22/2010 - 08:22 — CaryCurmudgeonwhy would low income parents be willing to have their children bused for
over an hour round-trip?
Good question, but based on a flawed premise that these parents were actually given a choice -- they weren't. In fact, the only time those parents were given a choice was when the WakeCARES lawsuit afforded them the opportunity to opt out of MYR schools. Many of those parents did choose to send their kids to school closer to home instead of being bused long distances.
to a magnet school for over an hour round-trip?
In this case, the parents do have a choice. And the reason that so many parents are willing to have their children endure long bus rides to magnet schools is that WCPSS has not allowed their neighborhood schools to teach the rich course offerings that magnets have. I believe all parents, on some level, want the best education for their children. So what does it tell you when thousands of parents across Wake County choose not to have their children bused to magnets?
At least the magnet applicants get a choice, forced busing is exactly what has been done to F&R students.
forced busing is done to F&R students?
Sat, 05/22/2010 - 09:10 — Athey01Did they complain? Why does anyone care... unless it's purely political.
Yeah..
Sat, 05/22/2010 - 10:43 — Bob_SconcePeople complained, but I don't think they were organized.
There are two important data points:
(1) The PPP poll taken before the election showed that the busing-for-diversity policy wasn't popular among poor African-Americans.
(2) As Joe pointed out, when given the chance to opt out of MYR schools in favor of perceived traditional calendar schools, many poor families did so. IIRC, one of CCAAC's early goals was to convince those parents NOT to opt out. (Rather elitist.)
That is the strange part
Sat, 05/22/2010 - 21:33 — user12345That is the strange part that the "concerned" people are the ones receiving the F&R kids who list long bus ride, isolation, lack of special programs, etc. as reasons to expell the F&R kids not the actual F&R kids and parents who are getting to attend the "good" schools. It seemed like the affluent "good" school parents should let the F&R parents have a chance to talk up and say they do not want to attend schools of excellence and distinction instead of trying to run their lives and make their choices..
The same reason high income parents send their kids to private school ... to get a better education ...
I can understand needing to
Sat, 05/22/2010 - 07:58 — red_balloonI can understand needing to get on a bus for a better education. In the case of a magnet school, the benefits, at least for some, are clear. But as you look at the other reasons for busing, the rationale is eroded. I doubt either of us can state that every F&R bused out from ITB benefits from this approach. I don't know how many F&R parents advocate for this. I do remember Latasha Willis commenting on how her children are bused out from Washington. Is she an exception or the norm? Also, would the F&R parents prefer their kids being bused away from problem schools or would they prefer we fix the problem schools?
Fixing the problem schools... great... sign me up, however,
Sat, 05/22/2010 - 09:04 — Athey01if I have no control or power to make that change, you opt for other alternatives. Also, you don't believe they will fix the problem, because it has never been a priority and no one has ever said it was a priority.
Yes, parents want their children to go to the closest school.
Agree .. if people want
Sat, 05/22/2010 - 10:37 — user12345Agree .. if people want these kids out of their schools and forced to return to their failed neighborhood schools there are better ways than using zones to keep them contained ... improve their local school so they lobby, vote, and complain at the BOE meeting why they have to travel past their neighborhood school of excellence / distinction to some OTB school of progress ....
I think most parents want their kids to go to a school which excels at education first and being close futher down the list ... it would be nice to have both but you need to live in an affluent neighborhood to get that.
"Life is about trade-offs,
Sat, 05/22/2010 - 07:46 — danofnc"Life is about trade-offs, in order to receive A, I must give up B. I
think it is that simple."
Not if you can win an election.
Wrong, in an election you
Sun, 05/23/2010 - 08:36 — starsonoursWrong, in an election you are given the choice between A and B. The people chose A over B.
Barber wanted to give a 45
Fri, 05/21/2010 - 09:30 — woodstockBarber wanted to give a 45 minute presentation that consisted of a revisionist history lesson and a dozen or so bullet point? This guy is a broken record -- a scratched CD -- a corrupted audio file -- repeating the same tired 1970s-based mantra over and over again. It is time for him to pluck some fruit -- an entire bushel if need be -- from the tree of knowledge and wake up to the fact that it is 2010 and we have a black man sitting in the Oval Office who is preaching the value and power of COMMUNITY SCHOOLS. President Obama very correctly stated "the more our schools become centers of community and family life, the better our children can do.”
I'm glad the board didn't
Fri, 05/21/2010 - 09:06 — CaryCurmudgeonI'm glad the board didn't waste 45 minutes of their time listening to this.