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Magnet/year-round letters and criteria changes

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We've got a bunch of different magnet/calendar items in this post.

First, some people are unhappy that their letters still haven't come in yet. Asst. Supt. Chuck Dulaney said all the letters should have gone out by now so he's concerned that some families haven't heard yet.

Second, the selection criteria did change this year. But it wasn't quite what was originally expected.

Dulaney said they scrapped a plan to use different criteria for individual schools. The idea had been to try to attract more low-income students to some magnet schools and more affluent students to some year-round schools.

Dulaney said they tested a few schools and decided that the changes didn't warrant using varying criteria.

Dulaney said they stuck with using the same criteria for all magnet schools and the same for all year-round schools. Magnet schools give priority to non-F&R nodes while year-round schools give preference to F&R nodes.

But Dulaney said one change they did make was to lower the crowding percentage used as the cut-off for giving priority. For instance, applicants whose base schools were at or above 100 percent of capacity got priority in last year's criteria.

Dualaney said they were able to lower it this year because crowding is down. I'll post the new criteria when I have the information.

Dulaney said they'll have the overall totals for acceptances and denials tomorrow. He said the detailed school-by-school breakdowns won't be ready until at least the end of April.

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Overall Acceptance Rates

I haven't seen anything anywhere yet. Did they release the overall acceptance rates yesterday as you mentioned above?

We still haven't received

We still haven't received our magnet letter in the mail. I called to find out that we were rejected but I still haven't received the letter.

Keung, I heard from several

Keung, I heard from several people (low F&R schools in Cary/Apex) who got application in the mail yesterday from GM. It said that Conn/Bugg still had openings for they grade and they could apply by April 2. Is it something new GM doing this year? Are they handpicking the school children can apply from?

It's a new thing being done

It's a new thing being done by Magnet Programs. I'm still waiting for more information.

Got a letter from GM yesterday, but it wasn't our denial letter

We still haven't received our magnet lottery letter in the mail (had to call in to GM on Monday to get the results - denied), but we did get one of those letters from GM in the mail yesterday.

It stated that we could augment our magnet application by applying to East Garner Middle School (IB Magnet) because there are still seats available). We are in the Western Wake area.

I still want our denial letter...

Nothing new

Seems consistent with the non-lottery magnet lottery process where the round in which your application is considered is dependent upon the status of your base.

Sounds like they did not get enough applicants from the first round schools, so now they are offering them alternative magnet options.

We received a letter in the

We received a letter in the mail from Growth & Planning yesterday for my 2nd grader whose magnet application had been rejected for Hunter and Underwood.

It said that there is still room at the IB Primary Years magnet program at Millbrook Elementary and if we submit the enclosed Magnet Change Form we can be accepted to that program.

Still no word

I emailed and called the office with no response. We have no letter and no clue. On how many fronts can WCPSS continue to upset families? I'm fed up!

For those who have not heard....

I spoke with someone in Growth and Development and was told WCPS have lost over 500 letters in the mail!  You will need to call them and they will give you the results of your application.

Bull Squat!

Those idiots rub bull squat in our faces at EVERY turn!  How can people like this, who obviosuly hate parents, be in charge of our children!?

On how many fronts

can WCPSS continue to upset families?

Every front you got!  That's ALL they know how to do!!

Call to learn

Just called Growth and Planning to learn my daughter was denied; the staff person I spoke with said people had been calling all day and she had given out both acceptances and denials.

Leesville Middle - YR or traditional crowding numbers?

Just wondering... For students with Leesville Middle as their base school, was the YR or traditional calendar crowding numbers used for magnet selection?

If the traditional calendar crowding percentage was used, Leesville Middle base students would have priority for magnet selection.

If the YR calendar crowding percentage was used, Leesville Middle base students would be bumped to the last round.

Can anyone answer this question? Is this yet another way the Leesville community has gotten screwed over by MYR??

Preeminent Charter School

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6736207&rss=rss-wtvd-article-6736207

What is the latest on

What is the latest on Leesville Middle? Has WCPSS finally decided to use their brains and save our hard earned $$ by leaving Leesville Middle traditional?

Rejection, Reassignment and Regurgitated agendas

have taken over our lives. ENOUGH!

IF you are on the side of the fence where Chuck and his merry band of the clueless kick their trash, go to www.wakesca.org and make a hefty donation while your steaming mad! Shove a Franklin up the A$$ of the very ones shoving prunes up ours! A nice donation towards the change that is looooooooooong overdue with the Wake County Public SS will help you get through the rest of the day.

Private schools have few, if any, seats left, selling your house is probably not an option at the moment, especially with this farce education system and the truth about what is REALLY happening to our children & families FINALLY getting out and keeping people from wanting to buy in your "node", your request for an option to educate your children has been shoved in the can, they are refueling the buses to continue running endless wasted millions of miles and they are sharpening their pencils for their next quest of ignorant madness! You simply have no other choice except to MAKE DARN SURE these 4 seats are filled with fresh minds this fall!

Tell your neighbors and MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!

ENOUGH IS A FLIPPIN' 'NUFF!!!!

Email??

Why can't they notify families via email or a web page? They could put one extra field asking for an email address. After all, I filled out the application online and other information such as the student assignment plan is only available online.

oh boy.....LRMS......what

oh boy.....LRMS......what can one say? ALOT, but I won't on here, contact Mr. Hui if you want to contact me offline, I'm done with putting it "all" out there...

just know the MYR Fiasco there will make it worse before it gets better, at least 25 teacher transfer requests had been had shortly after the announcement to force the conversion, now with term contracts not being renewed, etc....well has the makings for the perfect storm, thank goodness we are on to the high school, and the younger two won't be there for a few more years, maybe everything will be straightened out or better yet, we'll be gone from WCPSS!

Damnit. I just got through

Damnit. I just got through to GM and we got denied for both Ligon and E Millbrook.

Interesting, I just called

Interesting, I just called that number and they told me that they didn't have the info. hmmmm. Sorry to hear that you didn't get into any magnets. :-( I've honestly not heard anything bad about LRMS except for the YR conversion.

my guess is they are doing

my guess is they are doing to LRMS what they've done to LES and this is pad the numbers anyway they can to justify the MYR. LRMS will not show any gains for three years, so they cannot possibly allow any to leave it? MYR isn't justified there now as it is, if the base leaves? forget it.

No letter today either

We still have not received our magnet letter, but I called and was able to reach someone in Growth & Planning. Our application to Martin, Ligon & Centennial was rejected.

Stop wasting your time ....

Just made a call to WCPS - because I was also tired of waiting for "the letter". Apparently WC used a mailing service and said that they have lost around 500 or more letters!! You will need to call to find that you most likely have been denied. This all sounds so fishy!!!

Thanks for the update! 

Thanks for the update!  Glad to finally find out where my letter is - LOST!!

That Stinks

Hey Eric:

I'm sorry to hear that you didn't get into either of the 3 schools, but Leesville is happy to have you.  :)

AND, if WCPSS makes the responsible decision, you'll still be at a TRADITIONAL calendar Middle School too!

Still no letter for us

Still no letter for us either.  I was able to find out from our school Data Manager that my son was not accepted at Martin.  My phone message to the Magnet Resource Center has not been returned.

No letter today

No letter for us today or for my friend either.

no letter, but called Magnet Resource Center

Nothing in the mail in NW Raleigh, so I called the Magnet Resource Center at 919-501-7900 and they looked it up - we were not selected at Cenntineal, Moore Square or Martin. Lovely! Please someone tell me that Leesville Middle isn't as bad as they say. Private schools are all filled (I've looked). Should we start our own middle school - we could call it Wake Fed-UpMiddle School!

Leesville Middle is NOT "as bad as they say"

Hey Sahm i am:

No, Leesville Middle is NOT as bad as they say...

My second oldest is in 7th grade, so I have had children at LRMS for the past 4 years.  We have personally had a great experience with excellent teachers.  Sure, we have had just a couple of snags, but overall I have been very happy.

I am especially happy with our Principal, who took over in a very tough situation and has got things "on track".  Of course, the fact that she was blindsided and "thrown under the bus" with a MYR conversion late last fall was extremely disrespectful, but she's rolling with it just fine.  If WCPSS actually ends up going through with MYR at LRMS she is prepared, but like everyone else, I do think she'd be VERY RELIEVED if the school remains traditional.  (I am not speaking for her---just my personal opinion)

If you end up at LRMS, it's a great place to be.  It will be even better for all involved if WCPSS makes the right decision to continue operating it on the traditional calendar.

"take an aspirin and call

"take an aspirin and call them in the morning"...
what a Colossal mess! the breadth and scope of WCPSS is so detrimental to families and education, I cannot even begin to put it all in order. The uncertainty of placement, calendar, magnet status is so stressful to all involved and the only thing that is certain is that this BoE is determined to forge ahead, like a steam train out of control with a "plan" of action that is both unproven, unstudied in depth and fiscally irresponsible beyond measure.

I am convinced that Mr.

I am convinced that Mr. Dulaney doesn't want anyone to think they can figure out the system. So - that helps explain why crowding is criteria 7, and magnet feeders are criteria 1, YR MS applicatant are criteria 2, and 'mumble mumble' are criteria 3-6 for acceptance into SE Raleigh Magnet HS.

Why does he get to tweak the system with no input from the board?

lest we forget who is running this steam train....

Public face of reassignment values diversity
News & Observer, The (Raleigh, NC)
News B1

T. Keung Hui Staff Writer  

Published: March 5, 2006

Want to be hated by parents and taxpayers? Then the Wake County school system has the job for you.

You get to oversee the student reassignment plan. You have to figure out how to convert schools to a year-round calendar. And you determine how many new schools have to be built in a bond issue that will raise property taxes.

It's all in a day's work for Chuck Dulaney, who recently accepted the newly created position of assistant superintendent for growth and planning.

"There aren't good schools and bad schools in Wake County like people think of in other places," Dulaney says. "That's because we have a commitment to have a district full of healthy schools that are interrelated and not isolated from each other."

It's a tough job, but keeping Wake's schools healthy is in harmony with Dulaney's lifelong goal of promoting social diversity.

"They [Dulaney and his wife, Donna Olsen] are very socially conscious," says Ellen MacMillan, past president of the Unitarian Universalist Fellowship of Raleigh, where Dulaney is a member and a past president of the congregation. "They both feel a very strong obligation to help others and live what they believe."

For Dulaney, 58, his beliefs stem from growing up in the 1950s in the Southern California town of Colton. Despite the town being half white and half Hispanic, he didn't go to school with Hispanic students until high school. To this day, Dulaney regrets not having learned Spanish.

Dulaney said his experiences in Colton convinced him that when he became a father, he'd be sure to live in a diverse community.

It helped lead him to take a job teaching kindergarten in Kansas City, Mo., which was undergoing integration in the 1970s. While there, he met and married his wife, a fellow teacher. But after seeing white flight to the suburbs dramatically impact the schools, they moved to Charlotte in 1981.

"Charlotte was known for its diverse schools," Dulaney recalls. "We wanted to raise our family there."

But over time, Dulaney and his wife became disillusioned with the Charlotte-Mecklenburg school system. Dulaney said it became clear to them that Charlotte was starting to move away from maintaining diversity, a trend that accelerated after a 1999 federal court ruling ended racial busing.

Seeing the trend taking shape, they relocated to Wake County in 1993.

"He really walks the walk and talks the talks," says Karen Banks, who was Dulaney's boss for 12 years as Wake's assistant superintendent for evaluation and research.

By then, Dulaney's beliefs had carried over to his children. Banks recalls Dulaney's son, Ben, telling of how they detected code words from a real-estate agent trying to steer them to a white neighborhood.

"Ben knew we wouldn't be interested in living in an area that had a low percentage of minorities," says Olsen, a former Wake principal who now works in the district's staff development office.

Except for a brief stint as a principal, most of Dulaney's time in Wake has been spent as a researcher.

Banks, who retired last year, says Dulaney was the consummate team player.

When things heat up

Banks recalled a time in the mid-1990s when they ran into problems scoring tests because the computers were overheating in a trailer with a malfunctioning air conditioning system. Banks and Dulaney went to Home Depot to purchase sprinklers which they used to hose down the trailer to cool it off.

Banks says Dulaney's skills as a communicator have served him well, especially in his role of explaining student test results to schools and the public.

"There are people in my field who are quite brilliant but who can't necessarily communicate with people who aren't as technically oriented," Banks says. "Chuck is the opposite. He can make things sound simple even when they're complicated."

Those communication skills caught the attention of Don Haydon, associate superintendent for auxiliary services, who recruited Dulaney last fall for the new job of overseeing growth and planning. He reports to the superintendent, and receives an annual salary of $105,944. Technically, he doesn't set policy -- that's the school board's job -- but he has considerable influence as someone who frames the key planning issues to present to the board and the public.

"It's reassuring to the board and the staff to have someone there looking at all the data and making sure the right hand knows what the left hand is doing," says Patti Head, chairwoman of the school board.

This is one of the most critical times in the district's history.

Wake is experiencing record growth, with 42,000 students expected by 2010. To fill new schools and ease crowding, administrators want to reassign 10,258 students to different schools this fall.

Critics have long complained that the district doesn't do enough long-range planning to minimize reassignment, or at least give parents more warning. Dave Duncan, president of Assignment By Choice, a group critical of Wake's assignment policies, says it's a good sign that the district has created the new position. But he says the test will be what Dulaney does with the job.

Dulaney says the district's long-range planning efforts are hampered by not getting enough money for school construction.

But it may be possible, he says, to give parents earlier notice about reassignment. For instance, he says, the district should be able next year to identify the neighborhoods likely to be assigned to the new Heritage High School in Wake Forest, scheduled to open in 2009.

Dulaney isn't backing off the district's goal of trying to limit the number of students at each school who are receiving federally subsidized lunches. It's based on research showing that all students suffer when a school has too many low-income children.

"Our district was very smart early on to recognize, before there were legal challenges, that it's not an issue of mixing students by race but by family income," Dulaney says.

Dulaney acknowledges that the district's record growth and the county's concentrations of high poverty and low poverty are complicating diversity efforts. One remedy, he says, would be for municipalities to require more mixed-used development.

"We have areas of the county where much of the population is highly affluent, and we have areas where many are living in impoverished neighborhoods," Dulaney says. "How can we address that?"

It's a job that's going to push Dulaney into the public eye and keep him away from home. It's something his wife has accepted.

"It's important to be able to explain to people why we as a community need to do something for the greater good," Olsen says.

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CHARLES "CHUCK" NELSON DULANEY

Born: Sept. 11, 1947, in San Bernardino, Calif.

Family: Wife, Donna Olsen; daughter, Kate, 24, a doctoral student at Virginia Tech University in Blacksburg, Va.; son, Ben, 23, a patent examiner for U.S. Patent Office in Alexandria, Va.; brother, Richard in Raleigh; sister, Jane Asbury in Seattle

Education: Doctorate in educational administration, University of Missouri, Kansas City, Mo., 1981; master's degree in educational research and psychology, University of Missouri, 1978; teacher's certification, California State University-San Bernardino, 1972; bachelor's degree in history and physics, Occidental College, Los Angeles, 1969.

Religious affiliation: Unitarian Universalist Fellowship of Raleigh, past congregation president

Military Service: Medic (conscientious objector), U.S. Army, 2nd General Hospital, Landstuhl, Germany, 1969 to 1971.

Career: Assistant Superintendent for growth and planning, Wake County Schools, 2006 to present; senior director for evaluation and research, 1997 to 2006; principal, Joyner Elementary School, 1996 to 1997; evaluation specialist, 1993 to 1996; director of planning services, Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools, 1989 to 1993; research specialist, 1987 to 1989; coordinator of staff development center, 1983 to 1987; teacher in Charlotte-Mecklenburg schools, 1981 to 1983; director of the Learning Exchange Teachers Center, Kansas City (Mo.) Schools, 1977 to 1980; elementary school teacher, 1972 to 1976.


Chuck Dulaney's position as Wake's assistant superintendent for growth and planning will keep him busy in 2006.

Staff Photo by Juli Leonard


If there is one thing I give

If there is one thing I give Chuck Dulaney credit for, it is that he does seem to walk the talk.  So many other community leaders and education scholars will drone on endlessly about socio- economic diversity, but they won't push for it in their district, or they send their kids to private schools.  At least with Chuck, you know what you're getting (but that still doesn't make him right).

You are right!

We know what we're getting!

And it requires LUBE!

Somebody on another message

Somebody on another message board said that spoke with somebody this morning who said that some letters went out Friday and that another batch went out THIS morning. Now they say that if we haven't heard by Wed then we should call.

I tried calling this morning around 10 and all the phones lines were busy & the voice mail inbox was full so I couldn't leave a message.

No letter here yet and the

No letter here yet and the voicemail at Growth & Planning is full. How are we supposed to go about figuring out our acceptance/rejection status??

No Letter

---First, some people are unhappy that their letters still haven't come in yet. Asst. Supt. Chuck Dulaney said all the letters should have gone out by now so he's concerned that some families haven't heard yet.---
So what does he propose we do? Is there a number we can call?

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T. Keung Hui covers Wake schools.

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