A lot of parents would love to have all schools, from elementary to high, begin around 8:30 a.m.
That's not going to happen anytime soon in Wake. But as noted in today's article, Wake is looking into allowing a few high schools to open later, possibly around 8:30 a.m., as a means to boost academic performance.
Groups such as the National Sleep Foundation have been touting for years the benefits of starting high schools later in the day to give teens the opportunity to get more sleep.
Head said the idea, which was brought up at last week's facilities committee meeting, would be to make a later start time available to high schools that aren't doing as well academically.
Staff is looking at the ramifications to bell schedules if a few schools change. The problem could be that since Wake, like a lot of school districts, runs a multi-tiered bus routing system that changes to high schools could force some elementary schools to start earlier.
Under Wake's three-tiered bus system, buses typically run multiple routes in the morning and afternoon, serving high schools and elementary schools or middle schools. This allows Wake to save money by not having to buy as many buses.
A lot of parents aren't enamored with the three-tiered system. But Head said they have to stick with it, especially with the current economy limiting the number of buses that can be bought.
"Everybody would like to have an 8:30 schedule," Head said. "But we can't do it."
If any of this talk sounds familiar, Wake had looked in 2004 at flipping around the tiers. They would have put most of the high schools on the third tier and moved a lot of elementary schools to the first tier. It died after elementary parents objected.
Staff is already working on 2009-10 bell schedules so it's uncertain whether they'd be able to shift some high schools this late in the process. Click here for the 2008-09 bell schedule.
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Transportaion for Wake's Students
Tue, 04/07/2009 - 02:35 — AntonioLAmerica prioritizes the state of education by focusing on science and math subjects. This would mold the students discovering their intelligence in each field. Wake school is part of millions of institution that helps molding students into a fully-grown individual. Schedules of classes were planned and the services are good. There are buses typically run multiple routes in the morning and afternoon, serving high schools and elementary schools or middle schools. This allows Wake to save money by not having to buy as many buses. Transportation is a great requirement of modern living. However, just because you need it doesn't mean you have to let any one else tell you how to do it. If you let them tell you how to do everything, you will need cash advance loans just to be able to get to school every day. For instance, parents could carpool. Lots of people do it and have done so for a long time. Also, if you live close enough to school, you can start riding a bike or walk. No gas and you get in better shape. (Win – win.) There's also public transport, and all of these are cheaper modes of transportation.
Paranoid
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 22:33 — BlogCopWhy do you use an alias? Why did you change your alias from ncdad1? Why don't you reveal who you really are? Are you really the person you say you are?
No sorry, I'm not Mudge (CaryCurmudgeon) or anyone else you know. But I know you and I am learning more about you each day. You really need professional help.
I'm only answering to clear Mudge's name.; I will not argue with you.
Thanks for that, BlogCop.
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 22:55 — CaryCurmudgeonThanks for that, BlogCop. Calumnibot was just confused.
Mudge ... I see you are
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 23:17 — user1234Mudge ... I see you are getting the trailer you wanted for your kids at PC with the new traffic imporvement. Life is good.
Split personality?"Why
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 23:10 — user1234Split personality? “But I know you and I am learning more about you each day. You really need professional help.” Coming from someone who stocks me using an alias? I sense fear and trying to muffle the truth.
"Why did you change your alias from ncdad?" My computer dies and lost my pw so just created another ID. No conspiracy.
For the confused computer user...
Wed, 02/18/2009 - 07:08 — Dadof3If your computer breaks for any reason, I have good news! They store your account information at the N&O's servers, not your computer. Likewise, if you forget your password, they have a nifty "forgot password" button.
Never attribute to malace what you can attribute to incompetence.
Do we need another warning folks
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 21:25 — BlogCopUSER1234 is suffering from Internet troll personality disorder. This is no joke. DO NOT FEED, you are negatively contributing to a mental case.
Why do you use an alias
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 21:40 — user1234Why do you use an alias CaryCurmudgeon
Not paying taxes is the new fad...
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 18:47 — RiversideRealistDidn't you know?
Now all they need to do is get a job offer from the Bamster, and they're all set!
Maybe just to be fair
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 13:02 — Voice_of_Reason_How about posting all the background check dirt on all the BoE members (eR)? about Dr. Burns? about Chuck Dulaney? Maybe if N&O wants to be fair and balanced, they would do that. Or maybe we could do that, anyone have access to background check records? Why not include the editor who wrote that hatchet job on a private citizen should be in that mix too.
Great idea!
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 14:42 — g88ky07Since Mark Johnson made personal matters, such as speeding tickets, fair game, I say let's have at it.
The backgrounds on Chuck, Del and our non-favorite board members would probably be very scary!
And include Ruth Sheehan too!
Here's a good place to
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 15:14 — CaryCurmudgeonHere's a good place to start:
https://services.wakegov.com/ptax/main/billing/
Seems some of our school board members have an issue with paying their taxes on time.
Is this URL good for
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 17:52 — user1234Is this URL good for "family friendly" candidates who run in Oct? It will be entertaining to rip apart anyone who runs. If we dig hard enough, I am sure we can find something in everyone’s life. I don’t believe I have seen a meaner set of people who look for every fault to exploit. Is this the example you set for your kids? You must have really sad lives to be so vindictive and angry at the world.
N&O hatchet job on Cope
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 18:26 — Eric_BYou did read the N&O hatchet job on Mr. Cope today, digging up speeding tickets from up to 16 years ago, right? Front page news in the N&O in a shameless attempt to discredit Mr. Cope...
I'd call it simply being
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 19:47 — g88ky07SWIFT BOATED! Plain and simple!
I smell the fear ALL throughout the board and the system, from Chuck and Del down to the folks at the end of the puppet strings. Schools delayed, funds non-existent, agreeing to pay for the Panther Rd. issue, the articles on CMS compared to Wake, speeding tickets, this board is running scared and IT IS ABOUT TIME!!!!
can you feel the momentum of
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 19:52 — AngelaWcan you feel the momentum of the changing tides? :)
“can you feel the
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 20:30 — user1234“can you feel the momentum of the changing tides? :)”
Come on .. You lost the reassignment process with a few nominal changes… I am expecting you will lose the court case too since “right to summer vacation” is not compelling … I am guessing they won’t even enact MYR if they win because of the economy so it will all be a waste on all sides … WCPSS will embrace a diversity study that shows a system of even schools is better than three great ones and twenty terrible ones. You may elect some “family friendly” people because no one else will want the job who will find out that they still have to find a way to get the High Needs Kids over the finish line and they have less time to do it before the federal or state authorities step in… you will have turned the public against the schools system with your venom and they won’t care that “your” folks are in power now since they don’t care and the damage will have been done and won’t be repaired for years … I am guessing the “family friendly” team will last a few year , run out of steam and give up once they find out how hard it is to educate the public … business interests will step in and get a few experienced administrators to rebuild the system … a few vocal people will be thrilled that they can stay in a trailer on the parking lot of their favorite school … and they will call that success and declare victory …
I just gotta,
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 21:13 — g88ky07"I am guessing they won’t even enact MYR if they win"
Somebody wake me up, I thought it had already been "ENACTED"?
I gotta get more rest!
...
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 22:15 — SideburnsIf you mean "enact" as in "shove it down some but not all of our throats so some but not all can choke on it", then, yes, it's been enacted.
....
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 20:40 — SideburnsGosh, I didn't know this was about winning or losing. I thought this was about education. Silly me.
(You almost seem tickled by the prospect of people being reassigned and losing a lawsuit. Sad.)
Sideburns, Funny, I
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 20:45 — CaryCurmudgeonSideburns,
Funny, I recall calumnibot (sorry, the name just works) in an earlier post talking about how responsive the school board had been in making changes to the reassignment plan, now it turns out they actually were kicking our @sses !!
schiz⋅o⋅phre⋅ni⋅a=a
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 20:55 — AngelaWschiz⋅o⋅phre⋅ni⋅a=a state characterized by the coexistence of contradictory or incompatible elements
It appears to me the most of
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 20:55 — user1234It appears to me the most of the plan was left intact except for places like MacGregor Downs and few places where the computer model made a mistake. The staff put a plan in place and the board accepted most of it. I don't see where you got much of what you wanted nor has the tide turned.
you dare
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 21:01 — AngelaWto presume to know what *I* wanted? best be meaning the universal *you* in that post.
I don’t think is a
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 18:59 — user1234I don’t think is a hatchet job personally. So, the guy has altercations with neighbors and speeds. So, what. It tells me he has a type A personality. I also learned that he has lot enemies. So, why not get that all out now before next fall when it could distract from what ever he is going to do. It appears that today we need to be balanced - including a fault with every virtue when people in the public eye are examined. I think it is a way for people to feel better about themselves by knocking others down a notch. Just be glad there was no history of financial wrong doing or child related crimes that would have discredited him from your cause.
Personally, I think it takes a lot to be in the public eye including being on the BOE and we only discourage all but the most perfect, superficial people from putting their name in the hat when we expose all their faults.
An example of a delusional post
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 21:13 — BlogCopWARNING - DO NOT FEED THE TROLL !
anybody know what this means?
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 17:21 — AngelaWSubject to Rollback
Deferred Taxes Exist
Are you serious?
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 17:05 — Voice_of_Reason_You mean some of our school board members aren't paying the taxes that fund OUR schools? This would be real news !
Off topic, but thought I'd
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 08:50 — CaryCurmudgeonOff topic, but thought I'd post anyway. Hat's off to the N&O editorial staff for the front-page smear job against Dana Cope in today's edition.
Four straight editorials defending the school board and attacking critics. Now, no doubt due to his recent stand against Wake County schools, he has earned a front page article painting him as a wild Texan.
As I've said before, Mr. Hui, I consider your coverage to be balanced. Pity I can't say the same about the rest of your paper.
did anyone really expect
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 12:00 — AngelaWdid anyone really expect any less? the blatant editorials (co-written by WCPSS??) and now this?
the good thing is it means someone is making headway somewhere and people are getting worried.
Tabloid journalism, when FACTS fail, dig up dirt....useless dirt.
Hit Piece
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 11:44 — Bob_SconceI was really shocked to see that -- is that really front-page stuff? It's not like he's the governor or a state legislator. (Did Jim Black ever get a front-page expose?) And, bringing up 9 speeding tickets over 16 years? Why not mention that he backtalked his Nana when he was 5?
This is clearly a shot across the bow.
"Hatchet Job" is how I'd
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 12:38 — CaryCurmudgeon"Hatchet Job" is how I'd describe it. Unfortunately, this is a sample of what we will face in trying to bring positive change through the next election. The N&O and WEP will unleash their resources to investigate every candidate who is pro-family. Most people will see right through that, but it is will be an annoyance to be dealt with.
Funny how a double-standard applies. During the last state legislature race, a group opposing Ty Harrell documented that he has a history of not paying his taxes (what is it with stuff lately?). It never made the news.
3 doors down the hall?
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 14:02 — Dadof3Mr. Hui,
We've already interupted your holiday, but could you tap the appropriate shoulder at the N&O to see if s/he is interesting to responding to these fair criticisms?
Ted Vaden is still the
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 14:14 — KeungHui (author)Ted Vaden is still the Public Editor through Feb. 27 so you can contact him at ted.vaden@newsobserver.com with your concerns.
What happens to him
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 14:49 — g88ky07on Feb. 27?
goes to the DOT for
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 14:53 — AngelaWgoes to the DOT for Communications something or other
Having lived in Texas and
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 09:51 — shearertwHaving lived in Texas and actually known some "wild Texans", I actually thought that part was a compliment. We need a few dozen more wild Texans. Remember the Alamo!
Wouldn't the N&O normally support an organized labor type? I thought their spin on that portion was ironic.
I can't agree with him on that stance but I'm certainly willing to lock arms agains the BoE.
Researching his driving record back to '93? How is that relevant to his current job or the school board again?
Researching his driving record back...
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 11:18 — g88ky07cause it's the best Chuck's under world can do!
I smell fear and it ain't coming from our side!
whiff
Wed, 02/18/2009 - 12:34 — SDR256I smell victory
I seriously doubt they would
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 10:14 — CaryCurmudgeonI seriously doubt they would have run a story at all if not for his decision to take on the school board.
Huh?
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 10:35 — Dadof3Who reads the N&O anyhow, except for the occassional <snort>.
Good point! That's why
Tue, 02/17/2009 - 11:16 — g88ky07Good point! That's why they are letting 1/2 of the staff go!
WC Schools
Mon, 02/16/2009 - 09:46 — WFParentI apologize if pointing out that the WCPSS does meet the needs of at least some of the children in the school district is offensive. If my kids got a lousy education, would that satisfy everyone? I would hate to see a system like the magnet schools be dismantled because there are people (rightly so) angry because their kids have to attend a year-round school (or some other issue). BTW - as far as bus routes go, you can look that up. We bought a house on the Ligon/Enloe bus route so that our kids could go to those schools. Of course that can change at any time.....(and we do live in a diverse neighborhood).
You said you sent your kids
Mon, 02/16/2009 - 12:00 — vsheehanYou said you sent your kids to Ligon so they could be in a diverse school. If you live in a diverse neighborhood then why do you have to shop your kids out to a different school? Do you find the curriculum at your base school below par?
Please explain
Mon, 02/16/2009 - 10:51 — SideburnsYou said you would hate to see the magnet program be dismantled. Why? Honest question. Would you not attend that school without the perks? Also, are the base low-income children (those the magnet program is supposed to help) achieving better with the magnet program?
BTW,in my opinion, you should never have to explain why you chose to live somewhere.
WFParent, What is
Mon, 02/16/2009 - 10:03 — Eric_BWFParent,
What is offensive is that WCPSS forbids non-magent schools from offering special programs such as magnet schools have in order to make the magnet schools more attractive. AG students, like my daughter, cannot receive additional AG/GT services such as those offered at Ligon unless we win the lottery. That is wrong.
All this in order to advance a diversity agenda in which test scores, at Ligon for example, show does not help the low-income children it is purported to help.
Very few here want to see
Mon, 02/16/2009 - 09:52 — SouthEastWakeMomVery few here want to see the magnets dismantled per se. What they want is for those educational opportunities to be PROVIDED to all students - not just you can apply if you want and hope you get in.....
Stop the presses
Mon, 02/16/2009 - 09:20 — SideburnsWFParent's children are receiving an excellent education...at a magnet school...which, without the program, would be a "train wreck". So, how is that helping everyone else?
There are many high F&R schools that don't receive magnet programs or additional resources. Also, what about the F&R children that are bussed outside their community under the guise of a "better education"? (We've all seen the report card information.)
Until every child in Wake County has their educational needs addressed (with more than just a bus ride), you better believe we will keep "bashing".
"how is that helping everyone else?"
Mon, 02/16/2009 - 10:11 — g88ky07I guess that will be 2 less kids that either don't drop out or end up in jail!
Inequality in education thanks to Patti, Lori, the "Goat" and Horace goes forth!
WC Schools
Mon, 02/16/2009 - 08:05 — WFParentI am so tired of public education in general and the WCPSS in particular being bashed in these forums. I have two kids in the WCPSS magnet program - being bussed - and they have received an excellent education. If it weren't for the magnet school system - and the busing that goes with it - Ligon Middle School for example would be a train wreck. Instead it is one of the best middle schools in the country that is able to offer opportunities to poor kids that they would never otherwise have. "Social engineering"? Maybe, but we will have to interact with people from poor and disadvantaged backgrounds at some point during our (and their) life. Why not make it when it can make a difference?