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Looking at senior administrative positions to cut

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Some Wake County school administrators are sweating their futures now that school board members have asked interim Superintendent Donna Hargens to review whether jobs can be eliminated.

As noted in today's article, board members asked Hargens to look at more than a dozen senior administrative positions and come up with a recommendation on those positions next week.

Cutting some of those jobs could help offset the cost of restoring some of the parent counseling positions at Project Enlightenment. The board had also asked Hargens to make a recommendation on those jobs next week.

Up for review are an area superintendent's position, government affairs liaison, director of real estate services, program evaluators in Evaluation and Research and special education area program administrators.

The discussion started with staff presenting this list of all the senior administrator positions and up in Central Office.

It didn't take long for board members to question some of the jobs. There was a split along the 5-4 majority/minority lines.

School board vice chairwoman Debra Goldman questioned what the duties are for the governmental affairs liaison. The person, who is essentially Wake's state lobbyist, reports to Chief Communications Officer Michael Evans.

Evans said the liaison has several responsibilities:
* Helps create the legislative lobbying agenda and shares it with the Wake delegation in the General Assembly.
* Reports back on what's happening in the General Assembly
* Shares with the district's accounting and finance departments information during the state budget process
* Answers legislators questions about impact of bills on Wake
* Meets with the state Board of Education and Department of Public Instruction to share Wake's feelings on how rules and procedures should be implemented
* Monitors charter school application process

Evans said the liaison doesn't typically get involved on issues at the county and federal levels.

Goldman wasn't impressed.

"We’re paying somebody with taxpayers dollars to sit all day during the legislative sessions?” Goldman asked.

Goldman argued that they can hear things directly from the State Board on things like the charter school process. She wanted to know how many teaching positions the job could fill. (The person is paid $76,240. Throw in around another 20 percent for benefits.)

School board member Chris Malone said the position should be a part-time job and not a full-time one.

But school board member Keith Sutton said he held a similar position with the state Department of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention. He said "it's a very necessary and important position” hearing all the discussion as it’s being formed in the legislature.

Goldman called it a passive position because the person can't bring about changes. But Sutton said she's incorrect because the person can have an impact based on board feedback.

Board member Kevin Hill said the position is "very important." He mentioned how the person, Susan Harrison, has helped arrange meetings for him with legislators.

Goldman asked how come other board members aren't getting an opportunity to meet with legislators. Hill said he just picked up the phone and asked Harrison.

This isn't the first time that there's been talk about eliminating the position as Wake has been the only district in the state to have its own lobbyist. Critics have argued it's not necessary because the N.C. School Boards Association has a lobbyist representing the 115 districts.

Hill said it's important to keep the liaison position now that Wake is no longer a member of the School Boards Association.

Goldman said they can get the information from DPI. But Sutton said DPI wouldn't move as fast.

School board member John Tedesco said that board chairman Ron Margiotta is essentially acting as the board's lobbyist when he meets with the Wake delegation.

But board member Anne McLaurin said that's only one meeting per year.

"It’s important for someone to be going out for us to let us know what’s going on," McLaurin said.

Marigotta wanted to know what the lobbyist does when the legislature is not in session.

Evans said the person is still busy checking on legislative study commissions, following bills and working with the State Board and DPI. He said the person also helps legislators who get calls from constituents who have issues with the school district.

Goldman also was the one who questioned why Wake had a director of real estate services. She asked why the job was a full-time one when they could hire a consultant.

Chief Facilities and Operations Officer Don Haydon noted how Wake had hired consultants in the past but determined it was better to use a staff person.

Haydon also said the person, in this case Betty Parker, handles acquisition of property and easement issues.

Haydon and Chief Business Officer David Neter noted how the position is funded out of the school construction program. They said savings from cutting the job couldn't be moved to the operating budget.

But Tedesco said that the money could cover some other bond-related project.

Margiotta noted that Wake isn't really purchasing properties now.

Haydon said that they still have some unspent money for land acquisition. He said they'll have to buy a lot of land for the next bond issue. But Marigotta countered it might be a few years before a bond comes up.

It was board member Deborah Prickett who questioned whether special education was top heavy with staff. It was noted how there are so many senior administrators for program support for each area of the county.

Marvin Connelly, assistant superintendent for student support services, said they have so many program support people because school level staff are not as well versed on legal and compliance issues with special ed. He said these senior administrators daily visit schools when parents and staff disagree on how to help students.

There appears to be less opposition about leaving unfilled the area superintendent position that will open up soon when Kathryn Chontos retires.

Goldman was the one who questioned why Evaluation and Research has four program evaluators.

David Holdzkom, assistant superintendent for evaluation and research, said those people help evaluate if programs are effective. He said these reviews have saved money.

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ouch

But school board member Keith Sutton said he held a similar position with the state Department of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention.

Let us hope Sutton's boss places greater value on someone ferrying information.

oh but technically.....

The Wake County schools have no easy road ahead in paying for educating 140,000 students, but it does at least have permission to spend $1.3 million with the approval of a federal magnet school grant extension that figured in the strident debate about student assignment policy.

Magnet Schools Director David Ansbacher said Wednesday that the U.S. Department of Education has approved using the money in the 2010-11 year, even though it is part of an $8.5 million, three-year grant that expired this year.

Wake County magnet schools – elementary, middle and high – had 29,609 students at the end of the 2009-10 year last month, or about 21 percent of the students in the district.

When the school board voted earlier this year to seek the extension, it was in the process of the controversial change away from socio-economic diversity as a criterion in assigning students to schools.

The grant application included a board-approved statement saying it remains committed to voluntary desegregation in schools and a copy of the official policy in effect at the time, which included diversity.

Opponents of the policy change charged that it was disingenuous to include the policy while in the process of dropping diversity, and they challenged the supporters by asking if they would later send a copy of the new, community-based assignment policy.

At another time, a routine matter such as the grant application would have been placed on the "consent agenda" at a board meeting, routine operating items that are passed unanimously as a package without discussion.

The school system also has applied for a new, three-year federal magnet grant for about $10 million. Ansbacher said word on that application should come later this month or in September. If it is approved, the grant would be for three years beginning in October, the start of the federal fiscal year.

The amount of magnet grants often varies from what is asked, he said, and he declined to predict how much federal officials might offer this time around.

"We were a bit late getting started on this grant," he said of the time extension, so not all the funds were committed by the end of the 2009-10 school year. Officials had expected permission to carry over the money, however, he said. 

I was planning on blogging

I was planning on blogging about it at some point today. Tedesco was making a big deal at Tuesday's work session about how the extension was approved with the new desgeg resolution included.

Thanks for all the latest

Thanks for all the latest entries!

Thanks!

Thanks!

It's a tough time to be

It's a tough time to be without a job, but I agree they should start right there up at upper admin. and clean it out good.  I'd want them to look at everything and analyze all the pros and cons of each position, but if it really isn't needed, then it should go.  I know many teachers would be glad to hear of this.  It isn't the pay that I hear teachers that I talk with complain about it's all the extra paperwork and mess from central office and upper admin.  They all wonder what do some of these people do all day besides think of how to reword, rework and reorganize something each year to justify their job. 

I also have another idea, if any of the people cut, are actually certified teachers, offer them a classroom teaching position, so that they will not be without work/money.  I'd pay to see that, you would probably see some frown up, and get sick to their stomach if they had to face the classroom again.  They should have to deal with some of the mess they have developed and pushed on every teacher's plate.  I doubt any would take that offer, they would just go unemployed instead!!

Not all, but many of those

Not all, but many of those in administration earned their position not by actually making decisions that benifitted the students but by making it look like thet were doing some thing, usually high profile, to resolve problems. Maybe others will disagree but I always wondered why someone would be chosen "principal of the year" after a staff member orchestrated a connection and a trip to a school in China.  How did this benefit the students in Wake County? 

Not until you have worked in the system can you really develop an understanding for the unreasonable expectations administration has of teachers. Unfortunately along with that is instilled the fear of revealing administrative agendas. Hopefully, this will change.

China

One school's trip to China cost WCPSS nothing.  It will benefit students who get to take Chinese due to this partnership, visit the partner school, and learn about working with others on a global level. 

Thanks for taking the time

Thanks for taking the time to add some clarification my rather sketchy information.  It's great that this opportunity was provided for the students, both higher functioning as well as ED.  My apology for criticizing the program.

Benefitted the entire school

I chose this school for my child because of its administration's innovative ways of bringing the world to the school.  21st century learning. PTSA collaboration with the project. They are still using that experience in teaching there. That's what makes someone a Principal of the Year.  It wasn't just a field trip.

I have the greatest respect

I have the greatest respect for the teachers' innovative ways of teaching. If anyone was to receive recognition, it should have been the faculty that exerted time and effort toward making it the kind of school you would select for your child. A principal without a competent faculty, no matter how innovative he/she may be, will not be recognized.

Things aren't always as they appear.

In the school I was thinking of, nothing was done to enhance learning or optimize the success of the F&R students.  There are innovative interventions for this student population but since this group does not have much support or recognition, the principal would not have received as much attention for progress made by these students.

 

And this is a problem....

>> Margiotta noted that Wake isn't really purchasing properties now.
 

Umm.  Shouldn't we be, while growth is a little slowed and the economy is down?  The system is running at about 95%ish capacity with many, many trailers and crowded core facilities.  What is going to happen in 4-5 years if the pace of growth picks back up?

And THEN Ron said....

Ron, in his usual off the cuff gaffaw, then referenced the likelyhood of not having any more bond money for a while......  he already knows the voting public will not fund the additional schools needed in the 'burbs, with empty seats downtown..... 

I'm not sure how many empty

I'm not sure how many empty seats will be downtown.  Looking at the capacity numbers from the WEP report that TPG posted a while back was interesting. 

Wow

"Goldman asked how come other board members aren't getting an opportunity to meet with legislators. Hill said he just picked up the phone and asked Harrison."

Geez, Goldman, get a clue.  I love how she questions things she knows absolutely nothing about.  Pick up the phone - do you know how to do that?

Hmm

I'm more interested in the subject of Hill's discussion with the legislators and why he didn't report back to the entire board about those discussions.

I'm curious about this

I'm curious about this too.  If he used the WCPSS lobbyist to set up the meeting then I would expect him to disclose the nature of the meeting and what transpired.

I wonder if Hill had

I wonder if Hill had discussions on this subject:

http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/07/18/586405/legislature-to-study-school-diversitys.html

Same thought crossed my

Same thought crossed my mind, I see I'm not the only one speculating that could be the case.  Perhaps his involvement will be documented in the lobbyist report MissV referenced. 

You guys crack me up

Yep - Kevin Hill's the one that let the cat out of the bag to the legislature, and orchestrated state level investigation on segregation and diversity in NC. Darn that Kevin Hill!  If he'd a just stayed quiet, the board majority could have slipped all this by with no intervention!

Let what cat out of the

Let what cat out of the bag?  Are you saying that Kevin Hill met with the legislature to get them to do this study?  Or are you just speculating?  Previous board members had the opportunity to conduct a study on the effectiveness of the diversity policy in Wake and they refused.  They showed no interest whatsoever in investigating the issue.  None.  There were people such as myself who brought up legitimate questions and concerns and we were ignored.  I was a diversity policy supporter and I was ignored several times.  This is a political game for Hill.  If he honestly cared about how students were faring he wouldn't have waited this long to instigate a study.

 

Edited to add that I didn't intend for my first 3 questions to have an accusatory/aggressive/rude tone to them.  I am honestly wondering if Kevin did in fact hold the meeting to ask the legislature to study this.  I haven't seen this stated anywhere else.  Did he say this?  Somebody from GSIW?  I don't like to repeat or believe things unless I have more info. 

So...

I'm just curious because he's my Board Rep and I want to make sure he's representing my interests.

Oh Bob - -

He's representing the interest of the majority that voted for him.... isn't that what yall say about the majority 5? The other opinions aren't relevant, because they didn't vote, or vote for the him, right?  How's it feel to be on the other side of the fence??  You tossed that one very high - I had to swing at it!

I agree, that was a gimme

I agree, that was a gimme and I wouldn't have been able to pass it up either.  :-)

Although I didn't vote for Hill, and your argument is a valid one, I still want to know if his actions represent my interests.  I like to be knowledgable about all the reasons why I'm not voting for somebody.  :-)

Heh...

If any of the majority did, I'd similarly want to know.

You've had some indication

You've had some indication that he has been representing your interests?

Well, uh....

I was actually quite pleased at the June 15th meeting when he voted to approve the contract to buy the new H-6 property. It's a start.

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