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Now who are Ann and John Campbell, the people who've donated some $50,000 to help elect the new Democratic candidates to the Wake County school board?

As noted in today's article by John Frank, the Campbells aren't talking. Neither are their friends or associates.

"Their involvement is more about policy than politics," said Dan Blue III, a close friend of John Campbell who used to work him. He refused to talk more about the Campbells, calling them "private citizens" who don't want the spotlight.

Their big checks in the schools race surprised many top party officials and fundraisers.

"I've been involved in North Carolina and local politics for 20 years, and I've never met either one until the last year," said Mack Paul, the Wake County Democratic Party chairman.

But as the article indicated, the transition from magnet school parents to activists seem to take place a year ago at an informal meeting that the Campbells hosted for concerned parents at their North Raleigh home.

The topic: how to overthrow the board majority. The discussion involved strategy, candidate recruitment and what it would take to put Democrats back in power.

Those familiar with the Campbells suggest the "Art-Pope-of-the-left" label doesn't fit, describing the couple as parent-activists and public school advocates amid a time of great change in the direction of the Wake County school system.

"These are people who care about the issues and they haven't asked me to do anything," said Jim Martin, a Democrat who received the maximum contribution from the Campbells in his successful school board campaign in October.

"There's no think tank behind them," he added, referring to the Pope-backed conservative Civitas Institute.

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Campbells willing to pay BIG for a return to forced busing...

Does anyone believe the Campbells are maxing out their political donations to the tune of $60,000+ so that Hill can "tweak" the assignment plan? I don't believe anyone is that naive or clueless. Clearly they want an immediate and full-blown return to the burdensome Burns/Dulaney scheme of forced-busing and constant reassignments for "diversity." They -- and Hill -- will stop at nothing less. Vote accordingly.
 

LUDDY/POPE Axis...

willing to pay big for segregating Wake County schools.....

Uh, please try to keep up,

Uh, please try to keep up, that myth has been completely debunked... and your ignorance is not an excuse.

I find it interesting that you do no even attempt to dispute the facts I presented... you KNOW it's true and so do the voters.

So true...

I think the line in the draft of Campbell's op-ed that didn't get published is even more true after the relevations in the article today about Losurdo:

"Waiting for reason to prevail is not working; rational people can no longer remain silent before this threat."
 

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Yes, the threat to magnet parents. That's the hornet's nest in Wake County. Protect our programs at all costs -- under the guise of "diversity".

2 questions

What percentage of students are magnet students?

What percentage of Board Member are parents of current or former magnet students?

 

...

3rd question..

What percentage of those who protested about the new direction of our school system, got arrested, filed lawsuits, etc. are magnet parents?

I'm sure we could create a loooong list.

The new board should be

The new board should be renamed the Board of Enloe (BOE still works). Martin, Kushner, and Evans are attending or have attended Enloe. And I believe Sutton's child goes to a magnet (Bugg?)
 

So no matter what the

So no matter what the outcome is in District 3 we will have 5 board members who have or who have had children in a magnet school. I wonder what the priorities will be for the new BOE?

Your point ?

Margiotta leaned toward private, Malone is charter, Losurdo is charter - so are you saying these current and potential board members only had private and charter priorities in mind. 

 

Well can any of them

Well can any of them affect policy, student assignement or direct public funds to Charters or Private schools? NO

Can the BOE members affect policy, student assignement or  direct public funds to Magnet Schools? YES

Does that answer your question?

I see you still have plenty

I see you still have plenty of ammo to fire into that barrel of fish. It keeps getting easier, doesn't it. Perhaps we should switch to a rod and reel, and tie one hand behind our backs.

I wonder what the priorities

I wonder what the priorities will be for the new BOE?

I am going to go out on a limb here and guess ... uh ... the preservation of the magnet system and the continued devaluing of suburban schools.

Um... What's wrong with the

Um...

What's wrong with the magnet system?...unless you're unrealistic about getting your dream placements...

We've yet to get exactly what we've wanted.

But somehow, it seems to be working out okay - and believe me, we're becoming pretty legendary amongst our kids' friends as pushy parents.

As for the suburban schools, ours are the best base schools in the county.

Must be the other suburban schools you're complaining about...

Actually, I'm really not clear on what you mean by "devaluing".

Please humor me in my ignorance and explain it further.

Please humor me in my

Please humor me in my ignorance and explain it further.

Sure, I've got two kids in high school. Neither of them has ever had a foreign language course. While kindergartners at Wiley Elementary get their choice of 5 foreign languages, my kids can't even get a course in Introductory Spanish. No languages were offered in our middle school. None. In high school, it's tough to get into the language courses. My oldest is a junior and will finally be taking a language in the spring, albeit it's an online course.

10-12 years ago, WCPSS, lead by then magnet head Caroline Massengill made a concerted effort to devalue the elective offerings in non-magnet schools. The idea was that WCPSS should not make suburban schools too attractive, because then suburban parents would not choose diversity, i.e. choose a magnet school. We've been complaining ever since.

I appreciate your

I appreciate your post. 

I'd like to see actual evidence of this devaluing effort.  I'm keeping an open mind.

American public schools in general aren't exactly offering the quality and quantity of diverse course offerings that they need to. 

What's really sad, is that as far as I can tell, most Americans seem more than willing to complain about the state of public education.  But they wouldn't actually know what one looked like if they saw it. 

I guess this attitude of mine towards them makes me an elitist...

No doubt, as some point, I'll tell some of our story as a reply to another post.  Like yours, it includes a search for decent foreign language offerings, among other things.

Hope this helps: News &

Hope this helps:

News & Observer, The (includes Chapel Hill News) (Raleigh, NC)
The News & Observer
August 23, 2000

Plan would increase magnet schools' pull

Author: T. Keung Hui; STAFF WRITER
Edition: Final
Section: News
Page: A1
Article Text:

RALEIGH -- The head of Wake's flagging magnet school program on Tuesday proposed a series of carrot-and-stick measures designed to improve those schools and to make other schools less attractive to parents who might otherwise be interested in magnets.

Interest in magnet programs has waned in recent years, and some schools, especially those inside Raleigh's Beltline, are under-enrolled. Yet, some traditional schools are overcrowded. The plan presented Tuesday has costly measures such as raising the salaries of teachers at magnet schools and potentially controversial ones that would limit some options at traditional schools.

Caroline Massengill, Wake's director of magnet school programs, didn't have a specific dollar figure for the magnet improvements. But she defended the carrot-and-stick approach.

"If we don't have a distinctiveness, we'll not have the draw we'll need," Massengill said.

Board members said Tuesday that they wanted more details but affirmed their commitment to ensuring the survival of the school system's magnet school program

"I sense that the board has the will to make things happen,"said Bill Fletcher, school board chairman."We will have tough choices to make."

The board also may have to contend with opposition from parents whose children do not attend magnet schools.

Ruthann Brawley, parent at Brassfield Elementary School, complained that enacting the recommendations will pit parent against parent.

"I have a really hard time digesting it all," Brawley said. "Public education is supposed to be the same for everyone."

Wake's magnet school program has been its main vehicle for promoting diversity. When the program began in 1982, it was with the intent of encouraging white suburban students to attend magnet schools inside the Beltline.

Magnet schools offer unique academic programs such as creative arts and science, international baccalaureate studies and language arts.

More magnet schools, including year-round schools, were later added outside the Beltline. Now about 36,000 of Wake's 95,000 students attend 43 magnet schools, 12 of which are year-round schools.

While interest in year-round schools has risen, the number of applications for the other magnets - called program or equity magnets - has fluctuated. Although seven magnet schools opened this school year, Massengill said it's troubling that there was only a slight increase in the number of applications for magnet schools.

The opening of new traditional schools with more amenities and a far shorter bus ride have sapped magnet enrollment.

"Many people have to make that sacrifice of a long bus ride," said Lloyd Gardner, principal of Enloe High School. "Then they look at the the new school that is only five minutes and has much more technology."

While some magnets such as Enloe and Washington Elementary School are full, statistics released Tuesday showed there are possibly 270 seats still available at other schools.

In contrast, Bill Bartholomay, Durham's director of student assignment, said his district's magnet schools are full. Durham's eight magnet schools handle nearly 4,000 students.

Massengill brought to Tuesday's board meeting a lengthy list of recommendations for improving the magnet program. Her recommendations deal with the program and equity magnets.

Although most recommendations focus on making magnet schools better, some rely on weakening the ability of traditional schools to compete with them.

Massengill recommended that:

- Traditional elementary schools not be allowed to offer electives or anything resembling electives. She added that traditional middle and high schools should offer electives only from the middle and high school guides.

- Traditional middle and high schools should not be allowed to have a seven-period day. Traditional schools usually follow a six-period day, but some have added an extra period to provide more electives.

- The integrity of magnets against "mock magnets" be protected. Massengill recommended, for example, preventing schools from replicating the Academically Gifted Basics program by separating students by their ability in "flex grouping" programs.

Board member Susan Parry said the recommendations for the traditional schools may be easier to implement because they don't cost much financially.

Some of Massengill's other recommendations include such costly items as:

- Raising pay for magnet school teachers by 5 percent. She said teachers at magnet schools have more work to do because they also teach electives. Fletcher estimated this one item could cost $3 million a year.

- Increasing the number of teachers at magnet schools to reduce class size. Massengill also said the schools need more foreign language teachers, curriculum specialists and technology specialists.

- Increasing security, performing extra maintenance and replacing the aging computers in magnet schools. Massengill said many of the magnets are older schools and are in neighborhoods that parents don't perceive as safe.

- Adding more express bus routes and assigning the best drivers to magnet routes because the students have the farthest to travel. She also said start times should be later.

"We're asking for budget priority to develop a program that we've promised to parents," Massengill said.
 

One room school

I am not aware of any one room high schools in Wake County.  It has already been established that principals have wide latitude in how funding is used and what may have been the case 10 years ago is not the case today.  So if foreign languages were not offered in MS it is an issue with the principal and not board policy. My wife teaches at a non magnet HS  and she has never heard of a freshman being denied entry to a foreign language. At her school it is expected.  Your issue is not with the BOE but with your principal. 

Our middle school had art,

Our middle school had art, band, computers, keyboarding, yearbook as electives. Which one of those replaced the foreign language offering?

And as Apexter pointed out, limiting foreign language in suburban schools was just one of several tactics that Massengill took to devalue those schools. Those steps have been well documented.

My wife teaches at a non magnet HS  and she has never heard of a freshman being denied entry to a foreign language.

Anecdotal evidence. My kid wanted to take a foreign language, and the class was filled. He did not get in. Plain and Simple.

Another policy that was

Another policy that was instituted during the Massengill era was a limit of 6 academic periods per day for the non-magnet middle schools.  During middle school, the state curriculum requires that students take math, science, language arts, social studies, and PE, which takes up 5 of the 6 periods.  Also, there is a state-required keyboarding exam in the 8th grade, so a keyboarding class is also a requirement during this time.

This leaves one period per day for non-magnet middle school students to fit in any and all electives.  If you have a child in band, that effectively blocks your child from taking other electives such as a foreign language.  My sons' school offered Spanish, but since they both participated in band, that precluded them from taking a foreign language at the middle school level.

And it's very facile to blame this all on the principals, who have had their teacher allotments severely cut back.  

 

 

 

Choice

Band or foreign language and some chose band.  It was parent choice. 

With regards to teacher allotment cut backs - that is a function of funding. Funding is the responsibility of ?

"Priorities?"

"Priorities?" Don't forget, the Campbells have poured 10s of thousands of dollars into campaigns because they were so upset that the GOP board majority ended forced busing for "diversity." They did not do that just so the new student assignment plan can be "tweaked" as Hill claims. You don't pay that kind of money for tweaks. You pay that kind of money to see to it that we go back in time and reinstate Dulaney's failed and burdensome forced-busing node system.

Susan Evans did!

No wait, that was the time she tucked her tail and ran off before the cuffs came out.

GSIW connections to The

GSIW connections to The Century Foundation (Richard Kahlenberg, Sr. Fellow) think tank may be behind Hill, Evans and Martin so the Campbell's may not need a direct connection (not to say one may not exist there as well anyway). 

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