There wasn't much of a District 7 school board candidate debate on Monday's Bill LuMaye show on WPTF.
Only Deborah Prickett attended. LuMaye told listeners that Karen Simon declined to participate.
Click here to listen to Prickett's interview.
Thursday's four-way District 2 forum was a lot more heated. Click here and here to listen.

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BusinessWeek Magazine has
Thu, 10/01/2009 - 07:50 — AngelaWBusinessWeek Magazine has ranked Clayton schools among the Top 10 schools in the United States.
http://johnston.mync.com/site/Johnston/news/story/42554/businessweek-names-clayton-schools-among-nations-best/
No wonder
Tue, 09/29/2009 - 18:49 — tigger516If you don't realize it is improper to say "ax" instead of "ask" or "childrens" instead of "children" then I'm sure SOMEBODY has told her to quit speaking in public.
Can you imagine voting for someone that does not sound educated to represent the world renown Wake County Public School System? What is the NCAE and N&O thinking?
Sounds like Karen Simon took the coward's route
Tue, 09/29/2009 - 17:03 — g88ky07to me! Wonder how Perry feels about one of his puppets not thinking enough of his buddy Bill's show to bother?
She's a coward and so are those who vote for her! Cowards against change!
Simon also snuck out of an
Tue, 09/29/2009 - 17:29 — woodstockSimon also snuck out of an Indian-American forum in Cary recently when the questions got too tough for her handle. Prickett was there for the questions and was applauded...the Indian-American group is now having a fund raiser for her.
Simon can run, but she cannot hide on Oct. 6.
Hey Woodstuck, That one
Tue, 09/29/2009 - 21:32 — WhalerCaneHey Woodstuck,
That one is complete BS and I'm calling you on it. I was there. Event was to supposed to end at 7:00. Karen left close to 8:00. I believe Ms Prickett, please correct me here if I'm wrong, your wife, showed around 7:10 for an event that started at 5:00 and as I mentioned was supposed to end at 7:00.
I would submit showing up 2 hours late is far more rude and sneaky than leaving after spending close to three hours there and an hour after it was supposed to have ended.
You have plenty of issues to talk about. Why don't you stick to those rather than trying to make up some false outrage with immature insults.
Any of these candidates, including your wife, has more courage in thier pinkie than you have exhibited with your insulting, usually false, anonymous posts.
Yes, I said it.
Perry
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Wed, 09/30/2009 - 08:09 — woodstockExcuse me, but you are entirely off base I am afraid; I will assume for now that you are just woefully misinformed and not purposefully lying. Prickett notified the organizers that she had a prior commitment and would be late. It was not rude, but respectful, and she was welcomed at the event with open arms and an attentive audience. What's rude is sneaking out when the audience wants some answers as Ms. Simon did.
User1234 says I am a "Republican operative," (whatever that means) and now you say I am married to Mrs. Prickett (that will be news to her). What's next? All I am is someone upset at the status quo and seeking change and I expect the candidates to stand up an let us know what the are thinking. I am not sure where you expect your anger and lies to get you, but I am not sure it is going to help win you any elections.
Speaking of courage, how much does it take to make wild, off-base assertions? Any desperate, paid political consultant can do that...and they too often do, as you demonstrated.
I'll take your word she is
Wed, 09/30/2009 - 09:16 — WhalerCaneI'll take your word she is not your wife. Someone told me you were. That said, how would you know some much about the Indian American Forum? Who are you?
It is still far less respectful to show up after the event was supposed to be over than spending nearly three hours there before having to go to another previous engagement. What would also be disrespectfully is demanding answers long past when you said your event would be over.
You and you collegues use words like "snuck out, cowardly, does not sound educated." while still hiding behind 'woodstock' and other anonymous handles. I admit, seeing BS like that does make me angry and that is not helpful. I will check that by no longer responding to any anonymous poster. I've been open about who I am since the begining. How about you start?
Truitt wants to make it
Wed, 09/30/2009 - 13:06 — woodstockTruitt wants to make it about Margiotta and now you want you make it about me. Politics is weird. Directing people away from the subject at hand seems to be the primary mission.
You are a paid political consultant. Don't you have more important things to do than harrass me with your odd accusations and your concern over who I am? Do you charge your clients for all the time you spend posting here? We hear more from you than you do your clients these days.
As for my so-called "colleagues," who are they? I speak only for myself. I never called anyone a coward, or commented on anyone's level of education. Don't pin that on me. I simply stated a situation that was relayed to me by more than one reliable source. Maybe Simon did not "sneak out,"perhaps she just bowed out, or just plain left the buidling. Regaredless, when the audience started asking tough questions, she was out of there. That is simply a statement of fact.
I shall remain anonymous as I believe these forums should be about ideas and perspectives, not personalities. It is your choice if you want to respond to me or not.
interesting...
Thu, 10/01/2009 - 20:34 — supportwcpssWhen those of on the 'other' side stay anaonymous we get dragged through the mud but if you do it everything is great. Come on, who else is going to call out woodstock for being anonymous.
LOL, stop, please, you're
Thu, 10/01/2009 - 22:49 — woodstockLOL, stop, please, you're killing me. So, "supportwcpss" is your real name? Who knew? What is that, Ukranian?
If it makes you feel better
Wed, 09/30/2009 - 12:17 — g88ky07we won't bother responding to your lathered up blabber any further either! It just makes me "angry" and my doc says it isn't worth the cost of the meds! We all knew who you were from the moment you signed on to support Stan Norwalk! And Rita Rakestraw! And Karen Simon! And Lois Nixon!
When you have nothing
Tue, 09/29/2009 - 09:59 — changewcpssWhen you have nothing intelligent to say you don't show up. They are hoping to buy votes instead of earn them. Ms. Prickett sounded intelligent, informed and ready for the task at hand as always. The only way she will lose her race is if big money defeats her. K Simon is not even a respectable opponent.
That probably sums it up.
Tue, 09/29/2009 - 14:06 — shearertwThat probably sums it up. The majority of people that will vote for Simon/Nixon or Rakestraw are people that are being told who to vote for. No one who is objectively looking at any of those candidates would vote for them unless, of course, they're looking for a puppet of the current system. Therefore, having people hear what the actually have to say can only hurt them at this point. Someone may actually listen to them and critically think for themselves. Perry can't have that happen.
Rita has smoked Mr. Malone
Tue, 09/29/2009 - 21:38 — WhalerCaneRita has smoked Mr. Malone every time they have been on the stage together. At Wake Ed event, he read every answer because he had questions before hand. Rita answered cogently and intelligently. If fact, we got a bunch of new support from fense sitters after that event. In his mail, Mr. Malone lists as his top qualifications a job that the voters fired him from.
Rita will be there Thursday unless WPTF rescedules, and she will smoke him again.
Whatever support you claim
Thu, 10/01/2009 - 07:10 — woodstockWhatever support you claim Rita may have gained at the WakeEd event, which is highly doubtful, she lost a hundred-fold as a result of this performance:
http://news14.com/triangle-news-30-content/politics/614990/wake-education-board-district-1---rita-rakestraw
Good!
Tue, 09/29/2009 - 21:41 — MamaLynnI can't wait to ask Lois and Rita if they really believe there is no mandatory in this county! I believe Lois said it's a made up thing! You really should set them straight! That might lose it for them! I know parents that want year round and can't get in. That is mandatory traditional in my book.
Good!
Tue, 09/29/2009 - 21:41 — MamaLynnI can't wait to ask Lois and Rita if they really believe there is no mandatory in this county! I believe Lois said it's a made up thing! You really should set them straight! That might lose it for them! I know parents that want year round and can't get in. That is mandatory traditional in my book.
Ask away. Can you
Tue, 09/29/2009 - 21:56 — WhalerCaneAsk away.
Can you name a single school district in the country where there are no mandatory assignments? Not likely.
The issue about avoiding mandatory Year round is simply cost. How to do plan to pay for the $350 million dollars needed to provide everyone with a traditional calender choice?
Oh, and this year, less than 1/10th of a percent of Wake Students were not granted a traditional calender when requested. Not exactly an overwhelming number of mandatory year round assignments.
The main reason some requests for year round were not granted was to avoid upending the three year reassignment plan that was made to avoid the annual reassignments that so many were complaining about. Damned if you do, Damned if you don't.
We can have everything, just costs money. Money we don't have.
We can have everything
Tue, 09/29/2009 - 22:53 — CaryCurmudgeonWe can have everything without it costing more. Many parents apply to those MYR schools but are rejected because they do not fit the desired socio-economic profile as defined by WCPSS. The last thing any of us want to do is get rid of YR schools, there is no arguing that IF THEY ARE FULLY ENROLLED they do save money. My opinion, WCPSS is talking out both sides of their mouths. They brag that these schools have saved us $350M while they have policies in place that prevent us from realizing that savings.
So are you okay with annual
Wed, 09/30/2009 - 00:34 — WhalerCaneSo are you okay with annual re-assignments? That would be the result of granting all those requests. It would at this point also result in disrupting the economic balance of our schools.
I will give you because of that not all savings are being realized immediately and in some respects, they are talking out of both sides of thier mouth. Goes the other way with those who want more parental choice, but think you don't have to pay for it and that busing will disapear even though we have schools that must be filled in aged out neighborhoods..
The 350 million figure comes from when bond was passed a few years ago when BOE and BOC agreed to build all elementary schools as YR to cut $350 million from bond package.
Not The Whole Truth
Wed, 09/30/2009 - 06:34 — JanisTangoIf you agree that we may not be realizing the entire savings at this time, then your candidates need to say it has the 'POTENTIAL' to save 350 million. They say it does save that much! I guess they must be using a political adding machine! I know you get tired of hearing this, but we have two year round schools in NR that have almost 800 empty seats. Neither of these schools are on the 3 year plan. They are NOT going to fill up anytime soon!
In regards to SES balancing...how do you intend to address the people abandoning the school system. That can really throw a wrench in the SES balancing. Our school was at 37% F&R last year and they moved out one F&R node....our school is at 29-30% F&R not because that node moved, but because of all the people that left! How's that working for you? I would have preferred they left our school alone, but they just couldn't!
Even if ou filled all
Wed, 09/30/2009 - 09:02 — WhalerCaneEven if ou filled all YR's now, you would still have to build between 10 and 15 more schools to give everyone a traditional choice. It may not come to 350 million, but how about hundreds of millions.
More people have abandoned Charlotte/Mech since they abandond diversity than before. Here is what a former Charlotte BoE member has to say about this.
"There's little difference after the court case, except that we now have more buses, not less; more assignment/facility schemes, not less;...more white flight, not less. I could go on and on."
Have to build 10 to 15 to give everyone a traditional choice
Wed, 09/30/2009 - 13:01 — TrailerParkGirlNot everyone wants a traditional choice.
Can you explain how your figures account and adjust for:
1) letting everyone who wants YR into YR (right now some voluntary applicants are denied)
2) adjust for all the undercapacity in MYR (i.e. are you using # of actual students in MYR or # of seats if they were filled).
I Don't Really Care About Charlotte
Wed, 09/30/2009 - 11:22 — JanisTangoI know you are a political hack (your words), but I want an answer regarding Wake, not Charlotte. What is your candidates stance on the people abandoning WCPSS because of policy 6200? More and more are tired of waiting for things to change and looking into alternatives. If things don't change I too will be looking into what alternatives are available for my children! I want stability and that is something WCPSS has lost sight of! The WCPSS and the BOE should be ashamed of the CEMs they held last year. Pitting parents against parents when all families want is stability!
More people have abandoned
Wed, 09/30/2009 - 09:44 — Eric_BProof? Wake's market share has continue to drop to the current approx. 82% level from previous levels of 90.3% in 1995-96 to only 82.6% this year. In the same time period, the number of students in Wake educated outside WCPSS tripled while enrollment in WCPSS went up by 65%.
You're taking Larry Gauvreau's statement out of context. He was one of the parties to the suit that put an end to forced busing in Charlotte, so I doubt he would come to the same conclusions as you.
Here comes the 350 mill speech again
Tue, 09/29/2009 - 22:31 — g88ky07tell you what, I know a boat load of folks who will gladly give their forced year round spot to someone else if it means they don't have to move, when they can't sell their home, just in order to not have a child on a bus for 45-60 mins each way or that they have to forfeit another job because their boss has had it with wcpss mandates!
I spoke to several parents in Cary tonight who will all be voting for Debra Goldman, they were very clear on that, delivered over 250+ John Tedesco pieces, on foot, dealt with a migraine all day, can't wait to get the flu shots my doc doesn't have and wondered all afternoon, how was your day Whaler?
Administration
Tue, 09/29/2009 - 22:19 — SDR256Lots of wasted money in this bloated system. This is a matter of priorities - do you go out to dinner or cook and eat in - that kind of thing. This administration has been eating caviar at the snack bar for far too long. Yeah, I know its hard to give it up, but when there are chlldren starving - literally academically starving - maybe its time to look at your cute little BMW sportscar and feel just a TINY bit guilty.
What is this accomplishing
Tue, 09/29/2009 - 21:58 — loriacyes, but maybe the mandatory assignments elsewhere are not some super secret formula like they are here... Like - why can't we go to the school a mile from our house - why must our kids be on a bus for 45 min to go 8 miles down the road past 3 other closer schools. Exactly what is this accomplishing?
And, I would love to see a true review of avoiding mandatory year-round, when the YR school up the road from us has over 400 empty seats. Where do you get this $350M number from?
This is the rub - you say this assignment plan is accomplishing great things, but we see the truth and hear it from parents every day - it's not. And they are voting with our feet. Most of our neighborhood opted out of that elementary school that's 8 miles away.. the one that needed our 'numbers'. How are those mandatory assignments working out for you, Chuck?
Just an observation, but
Tue, 09/29/2009 - 09:48 — CaryCurmudgeonJust an observation, but Simon/Rakestraw/Nixon seem to have gone underground... not showing up at forums and interviews. Perry, I'm sure you have something up your sleeve.
First, anyone who runs for
Tue, 09/29/2009 - 21:21 — WhalerCaneFirst, anyone who runs for school board is no coward. It sucks and takes courage. What is cowardly is the insults many of the posters here hurl anonymously. Joe perhaps you will encorage them to mind their manners and follow you in avoiding such insults, particularly those that are racial tinged. Some of you should be ashamed.
As to Monday, Karen had a previous engagement called a job. I'm sure if she showed, I would hear, 'What is she doing biliking the taxpayer campaigning while on her State Job. For that matter, did Deborah take leave to be on WPTF at 4:00 in the afternoon? Lois will be there tomorrow, and Rita has Thursday on her calender, which they are now trying to rescedule to Monday. Resceduling a debate two days before hand and putting it the day before the election is inappropriate, especially at such a biased venu as WPTF. If they move it, Rita will not be there.
I tried to call in and explain Karen was at work, and ask Deborah that since she had just said we are top heavy in Adminstration in Education, was she going to resign her job as an Administrator at DPI. That was a pretty hypocrital position from her. (side note, Woodstock, before you way in, perhaps you will disclose who you are married too. I have no problem admiting who I am.)
Bill would not let me on, falsely saying I was Karen's campaign manager. I don't work for Karen. She has never paid me a dime. Ironically Joe, he had no problem letting you on to ask a question in the District 2 debate, and you are in essence the campaign manager for all four of them.
As to the Phil Jefferies forum, that was in District 2 and was put on by, well, Phil Jefferies. I didn't see much benefit for Rita to break a previous engagement in her district to attend.
Sincerely
Wed, 09/30/2009 - 22:34 — Dadof3Unfortunately no side has a monopoly on best behavior here -- will you do likewise on your side?
I'd weigh in but you seem
Wed, 09/30/2009 - 20:06 — woodstockI'd weigh in but you seem to making an ass of yourself all by yourself. No need for me to intervene and point it out.
"First, anyone who runs for
Tue, 09/29/2009 - 23:08 — CaryCurmudgeon"First, anyone who runs for school board is no coward. It sucks and takes courage."
Perry,
I agree with this statement, and in now way did I mean to imply cowardice on the part of those three candidates. It just seemed strange to me that they were not showing up at these events -- you have now explained why.
I need to correct you on one thing, I am not the campaign manager for any of these candidates. I was asked to serve in this capacity for one of the candidates but refused. I do stay in touch with them, but they have their own teams who run their campaigns. I don't see their materials before the general public, I don't keep track of their schedules, and I find out about their finances when Keung posts their reports. As these teams are comprised of volunteers who are generally not political veterans (nor am I), I am impressed with what they've been able to accomplish. There is also a group of dedicated people working within WSCA, that is what I am a part of.
I was told that when I called in with my question, they asked the candidates about whether they wanted to answer it and the candidates said yes. If they had said no, my question would not have made it on either.
Joe, I agree you are not
Wed, 09/30/2009 - 00:02 — WhalerCaneJoe,
I agree you are not thier campaign managers, as I am not managing a single campaign either. That said, all four candidates parrot what you and your organization have been providing them for months. Not to mention you helped recruit them in the first place. You are understating your impact on this race. It has been extensive, and effective.
I have no doubt you share your task with dedicated people, but you my friend have been their source in many ways, and most here would admit it. Obviously we disagree, but I do recognize that WCSA et al would not have raised 24K and had nearly as much success without your efforts.
Being asked if they want to answer your question is far more courtesy than I was afforded, and I appear an hour each week for free.
Racially tinged
Tue, 09/29/2009 - 22:23 — SDR256Which racially tinged posts are you referring to? I don't read everything but I sure missed these. The only ones I saw recently were User1234 referring to white parents - but in his defense this was in context of a racially based endorsement. Outside of that I don't recall - you wouldn't be baiting people would you per chance?
Try these. "If you
Wed, 09/30/2009 - 00:23 — WhalerCaneTry these.
"If you don't realize it is improper to say "ax" instead of "ask" or "childrens" instead of "children" then I'm sure SOMEBODY has told her to quit speaking in public. "
"She's a coward and so are those who vote for her!"
"Simon also snuck out of an Indian-American forum in Cary recently when the questions got too tough for her handle."
I'm confident if you were African-American you would find a 'tinge' in those statement.
I wrote Keung this morning and said "Black Groups" was not really appropriate in the headline. For one thing, there are Caucasions who belong to RWCA just like their are African-Americans who support WSCA.
You can bank that the last thing I will ever do is race bait.
I have never called anyone at WSCA or who opposes economic balance in our schools racist.
My call was to Joe, who I know would prefer the temperature on some of this be turned down, to speak up and try and calm the waters.
Frankly, I found all the 'Coward' comments particularly offensive, especially coming from anonymous posters.
Thank you Joe for acknowledging that none of these people are 'cowards'. Perhaps you can explain to this poster the difference in "Ax" and "Equalitix" impacts on racial stereotyping.
Yes, Ms. Simon speaks with a dialect different than you and me. That comes from a lifetime of a different culture, but she is definately more educated than me, and probably you.
Can you help me understand?
Wed, 09/30/2009 - 13:21 — TrailerParkGirlI agree with your point on the "ax", but also note that some have pointed out accent differences in Causcasion candidates as well.
How is the word "coward" an example of racially tinged?
I agree that it takes a tremendous amount of courage to run for office or even out oneself in public. However, once one decides to run, one is expected to answer questions. You said it was a time constraint issue, but what ultimately matters is how it was perceived by those asking the questions.
Why is Indian-American forum inappropriate? If CCAAC had a forum wouldn't it be referred to as the CCAAC forum or is it because Indian-American is not an official organization name?