Wake County school board member Kevin Hill said today he has no intention of instituting forced busing if he's re-elected, a charge leveled by opponent Heather Losurdo.
In an interview this morning on The Rick & Donna Martinez Show on WPTF, Hill said the student assignment plan is "workable," but he voted no because of the "few missing components in the model." He pointed to the lack of seat set asides at high-performing schools and the lack of permanent outreach efforts to explain the model to parents.
"I think there will have to be some changes made, but I totally disagree with what I'm continually bombarded with daily that should I be re-elected that we're going to throw this plan out and go back to the old assignment plan," Hill said. "Nothing could be further from the truth. This will be our plan. We have to work on some of the rough edges."
Rick Martinez asked Hill what he thought of Losurdo's approach of not having seat asides but instead focusing on improving the low-achieving schools. Hill said he disagreed with that approach because of the expense of fixing those schools, pointing to the additional $1 million that Walnut Creek Elementary received compared to other elementary schools.
Rick Martinez asked if that meant Hill preferred busing students around than creating high-poverty neighborhood schools.
"We wouldn't be busing those students around because it is a choice plan," Hill answered. "What I'm advocating is that we do have seat set asides should parents choose to have their kids attend those schools. We have a large number of students now who ride a bus a long time every day by choice going to magnets.
But if those seats aren't set aside then those parents don't have that opportunity so no I wouldn't be advocating busing someone, forcing anyone being bused anywhere. It is a choice program. The parents would have to pick that school."
Rick Martinez asked if parental choice resulted in a high-poverty school would he support providing additional funding. Hill answered "without a doubt"
Donna Martinez asked if Hill would support raising the property tax rate to provide additional school funding.
"If the county commissioners feel that's the last resort, I think I would because we owe it to our children," Hill answered. "Wake County has had an excellent school system over the years and it's our obligation to continue to provide an excellent opportunity for all of our children."
Pointing to this recent Hill mailer, Donna Martinez asked if the board was partisan before the Republican majority took over in 2009. Hill said "I don't believe it was."
"I believe partisanship has been inserted into the board and we need to put that horse back in the barn," Hill said.
Donna Martinez asked if the board would be partisan if Democrats are in the majority. Hill said "I hope not."
"The Board of Education needs to be non-partisan," Hill added. "Third-graders don't know what Democrats and Republicans are and they don't know they deserve a good education. It's our responsibility to provide that and it should not fall along party lines."
Donna Martinez asked what were Hill's concerns about Losurdo.
Hill said it was "her lack of appearance" and how "partisan" it was when she stepped down as president of the Northern Wake Republican Club the day she announced her candidacy.
Donna Martinez asked if Hill was saying Losurdo is political and he is not. He answered yes.
Earlier in the interview, Hill was asked to grade Superintendent Tony Tata's performance. Hill said he would give Tata an "A-" grade, saying he's "done a good job."
Hill will be back on WPTF at 2 p.m. to be interviewed by Bill LuMaye, who has been an outspoken supporter of Losurdo.

Comments
Heather Losurdo lied
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 17:12 — liberal1I called in to Rick and Donna's show and asked Heahter why she was not admitting to her tea party ties. She claimed that she simply got email blasts from Triangle Conservatives Unite and that is all. She has not only attended rallys, she has posted pictures on the groups website. She also had Donna Williams come just the week before to the group to ask them for money, to make phone calls, and to go knock on doors. That is a little more than just getting email blasts from them, I even met Heather at a tea party meeting. That is all fine and legal, and Heather has the right to do that. However the people she is asking to vote for her also have the right to know if she supports the tea party and whether she thinks Glenn Beck is sane. Rick hung up on me and laughed, and allowed Heather to sit there and lie. I will swear on the Bible to my version of the story, I bet Heather would not do the same.
Are you a pinhead?
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 18:12 — PerniciousSnidPerhaps the irony of you saying that you were not a 'member' of the Taxed Enough Already Party; but attended their meetings, was lost on you, as you were trying to tell Heather that she is a member of the Taxed Enough Already Party because she attended a meeting. Do you really not see the irony there? Either you are a member, just by attending, or you are not. Have I made that perfectly clear now? Also, refer to Heather's interview ( on a TV station) where she responds to a direct question about the Taxed Enough Already Party when she states, (and I paraphrase) If being a part of the T.E.A. Party means that I support and defend the Constitution, then I do support that. It is all very clear to clearthinking folks. Um, how did Glenn Beck get into your post? And are you a psychologist? Are you able to diagnose people's mental state by watching them on TV? If so, I suggest you hang out a shingle and get paid for that skill. Also, based on your 'logic' if a candidate, or their surrogate goes to say, Wake Up Wake County Forum and asks for help with their campaign, does that make them a member of Wake Up Wake County? Because all four candidates did that in the first part of the election. I think I've answered my own rhetorical question in the title of this post.
Nice try
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 21:01 — liberal1If I had simply tried to say that Heather was a member of the tea party because she attended a meeting, I would be wrong. However, that is not what I am claiming. I attend meetings, and you can come with me and ask everyone there if I am a tea party member. They will all tell you that I am not, the ones that like me as well as the ones that don't. But Heather has not simply attended meetings. She has gone to the rallies and held up protest signs. She has gotten up on stage at the rallies and addressed the crowd (they would not let me do that). She has posted photos of tea party rallies on the groups website. She went to DC to attend the Glenn Beck rally with all of the other good tea party members. That is a little more than just attending a meeting don't you think? And it was perfectly fine for Donna Williams to come to the tea party meeting and ask for help, but that is a little bit more than only"getting email blasts" from the group as Heather claimed wouldn't you admit? And see, I even responded without calling you a name, so my mental stability is a little more solid then some people that post online.
You did answer your own question
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 20:33 — FSandYOUYou were correct AND uplifting!
Hill lies. Just look at his appalling voting record - He Must Go
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 14:40 — woodstockHill lies. He voted against the new assignment plan and desperately wants to return to busing for "diversity." All you need to do is look at Hill's appalling voting record and the failed policies he supported and presided over as board chairman to determine the truth.
We all know he voted AGAINST the new broadly praised student assignment plan. But that is not all, during his tenure he voted for, supported and even presided over many failed policies that led to embarrassing graduation rates for low-income and many minority students, mandatory year-round assignments, enormous program disparities, increased suspension and drop-put rates, pointless and burdensome forced-busing and reassignments, and discriminatory practices that denied low-income and minority students access to advanced math courses. These were all acceptable to him as long as there was busing for "diversity" and "healthy schools." He forgot his job was to ensure healthy students. He may be experienced, but he apparently has learned very little from that experience.
All of Hill's failures as a school board member are now being addressed and fixed by the current school board majority. The time for Hill to go is way past due. He had his chance and blew it.
Woodstock you are the least truthful
Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:40 — SatchHHWoodstock, you are the least truthful poster I've seen on my times on this blog. It amazes me sometimes. Your recent post isn't nearly as bad as many in terms of being misleading. Just because Hill voted against moving forward with the new assignment plan when it came up for a vote doesn't mean he'd overturn it. He made it very clear that there were specific things that needed to be in place before he would vote for it - not that he would throw it out. Losurdo is a complete joke as a candiate in terms of her level of qualifications and depth of knowledge. I can see why you like her. Her simplicity and nastiness suit your style. Wake County deserves much, much more than board members like her. You'd think the Republicans could have done better. Mansfield was a quality candidate, but you all turned your back on her because she wasn't playing the cookie cutter/sound byte game. Now you're stunk with Skippy LMAO Losurdo. Kevin Hill is a former Principal of the Year in Wake County. In such a huge county, that is a HUGE accomplishment. What has Loursudo EVER done to help kids in schools? In such a diverse community, her LMAO response to her husband's skunk comment regarding Obama should be a huge wake-up call (among a zillion others) to county residents. She is in no position to hold herself up to lead an educational organization. Did she graduate from college? Where? (honest question - I haven't seen this reported or posted - so please direct me)
I find it interesting that
Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:57 — woodstockI find it interesting that you say I am not truthful, but then offer not even one example of anything I was ever untruthful about. You just spew more of your typical hate-filled talking points.
It is crystal clear that Hill voted against the plan because he wants to reinstate forced busing and regular reassignment for the pointless social-engineering goal of attaining some weird definition of "diversity." He has stated many times that he supported the the old and failed Dulaney node system and the busing that went along with it. As much as he would like to now, he cannot hide from his past actions. He spend 4 years supporting and defending that monumental fiasco, he did not just suddenly have a change in heart.
Kevin Hill does not lie.
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 18:34 — Courage21I am a Kevin Hill supporter and he told me one on one that he would not vote to overturn the assignment plan that has been passed. He is not a political person. He wants to make this plan work for Wake County.
Heh...
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 23:03 — Bob_SconceSo... let me get this straight:
"Yes, I tried to block a new student assignment plan every step of the way. But, I support it now."
"Yes, I voted against allowing non-educators to be superintendant and I voted against the search firm and I voted against Tony Tata, but I support him now"
And they accuse Losurdo of flip-flopping?
Not a cookie cutter
Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:47 — SatchHHHill is someone who learns from experience. Being able to learn and change is a GOOD thing. Voting against a non-educator (Tata) does not mean that Hill can't acknowledge that Tata has done good things in the county and give him good marks. Voting against implementing the assignment plan now does not mean he is totally against it or would overturn it. I too think there are MAJOR holes that could be fixed given time. There would have been no harm done in delaying implementation. But back to your post...being fixed in one's views and not being willing to change is harmful and stupid. I wouldn't want a board member like that. We have too many non-thinking puppets on the board (JT, RM, DP!!!!, CM). Kevin will stand up to pressure and think things through. Isn't that what we want our students to do too? I'd rather have critical thinkers on the board than cookie cutter partisans. Kevin Hill is NOT a cookie cutter partisan. Heather Losurdo clearly is.
Why Don't You Ask Your Buddy Kevin Hill....
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 22:21 — JanisTangowhat the board prior to 2009 could have done better? What mistakes did they make? He would gain a lot of credibility if he would admit to mistakes of that board (there were plenty of them BTW). My biggest issue with Kevin Hill has to do with trust. I don't trust a word that comes out of that man's mouth because he will not own up to the issues that caused the upheavel in the 2009 elections. I really don't think he gets it so therefore I see him governing like he did before and that was not a good thing.
Kevin has said the Board
Fri, 11/04/2011 - 00:21 — WhalerCaneKevin has said the Board before 09 did not place enough emphasis on Stability, and that once in a school, a kid should get to stay in school.
...
Fri, 11/04/2011 - 07:24 — SideburnsI tried looking for something, anything that Hill has done over the past 4 years to indicate that he showed even the slightest bit of concern for the stability of our students. Nothing.
With 35 years of public education experience, did it just dawn on him in '09 that stability is important?
35 years, really? He must
Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:01 — woodstock35 years, really? He must have jumped from college right into nursing off the government teet... for 3 1/2 decades. Does he have a Big Pinecone Award for 30+ years of service like Morrison?
He has never, ever had a job in the private sector... and he has played a role in helping to prepare for the real world. Interesting.
Woody you don't have a clue
Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:51 — SatchHHI've been in private and public. You don't have a clue. Teaching is one of the hardest jobs in the world - if done well. Hill clearly did it well and was a fabulous adminstrator. I would be a lot of money that you couldn't last a semester in the classroom.
BTW - teaching IS the real world.
Since Hill was a fabulous
Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:56 — starsonoursSince Hill was a fabulous adminstrator we should give him the opportuntity to go back to doing what he is good at. He is a train wreck as a Board Member and there are lots of schools that need a Principle. Elect Losurdo and Hill can once again be effective at something.
Right, because in your
Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:49 — criticalthinkerRight, because in your beautiful mind, the public sector is something to be ignored, scorned, eliminated...which, by the way, isn't possible...a backwards time machine hasn't been invented as of yet...but when it is, you can be the first to try it out.
From the hilarious pages of Yes, You Can't: "In nature, a weed is just a flower in disguise. In the workplace, a weed is just a weed...until it is promoted into management."
Don't come around here bringing your right-wing myth about finding dead-weight managers exclusively in the public sector.
The more you post, the less we believe you have any connection with the real world whatsoever.
What was that rant about?
Fri, 11/04/2011 - 09:13 — woodstockWhat was that rant about? LOL! Weird.
Way to insult
Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:31 — Dove314Way to insult lifelong teachers everywhere.
The best teachers have broad
Fri, 11/04/2011 - 08:43 — woodstockThe best teachers have broad experience and do not isolate themsleves in academia like Hill has done. Many life-long teachers have worked outside a school system.
When Did He Say This...
Fri, 11/04/2011 - 06:43 — JanisTangoin public. I have never heard anything of the sort. A lot of people like myself don't trust him because the perception is that he still doesn't get it. People can say anything they want about the 2009 election results regarding how the republicans 'bought' the election, but the results were achieved because of a lot of angry parents had enough of the board's refusal to see what was going on right in front of their nose. Lori Millberg was the queen of insulting parents that didn't agree with her. I think she was surprised more than anyone of the results. No matter what happens next week, I hope the new board learned a lesson from the past 10 years or we will be right back to where we've been in the past and that is not a good thing for any of our children.
That is pure BS. He did
Fri, 11/04/2011 - 07:03 — woodstockThat is pure BS. He did NOTHING to promote stability... and NOW his desire is to unstablitize the new assignment plan by limiting choice and returning to more forced busing. There ain't enough lipstick for this pig. Hill must go!
Really
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 20:50 — starsonoursWow what a coincidence, he told me in a one on one that he had lied to some one called Courage something and told them he would not vote to overturn the assignment plan. We laughed and then he said and I quote "They are so gullible. If I really meant that I would not vote to overturn the assignment plan, don't you think I would have made a public annoucement stating this!" "That Courage something believed every word they pretended I said!" Don't tell anyone he would be upset if this was released to the public so SSSHHH....
Hill Lies
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 14:56 — WitchyWomanHill lies. He voted against the new assignment plan and desperately wants to return to busing for "diversity." All you need to do is look at Hill's appalling voting record and the failed policies he supported and presided over as board chairman to determine the truth.
LOL! Well that would explain why Hill has Tim Tyson working in his office. Home grown liers.
http://www.facebook.com/timothy.tyson?ref=ts#!/timothy.tyson?sk=wall
Oy...
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 19:46 — Bob_SconceAnd they criticize Losurdo for the company she keeps. Has Tyson apologized for his role in the Lacrosse incident yet?
He might still be in the
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 19:49 — woodstockHe might still be in the midst of a lawsuit associated with that fiasco as a result of his enormously irresponsible words and actions.
Art, is that you?
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 14:52 — criticalthinkerArt, is that you?
Not Surprised
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 14:30 — jgegbgmgI was not surprised with their line of questioning at all. I'm sure they were instructed that the two candidates were totally different in their understanding of the needs of the Wake County school children and to be sure Ms. Losurdo was capable of answering their easy questions and put it to Mr. Hill. Guess they were at a lost for words when he was able to respond in a very knowledgeable and accurate way to the questions they should have also asked to Ms. Losurdo. Wonder if they would be willing to explain the differences in the questioning? It would really be interesting to hear their response.
Is this a game of...
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 18:19 — PerniciousSnidIs this a game of how many different people can you insult in one post? Are you suggesting that Rick and Donna 'are instructed' before a show? (Insult 1) Losurdo has been on their show maybe 3, maybe 4 times since April. Until yesterday, DownHillKevin has not once shown his face there. (Insult 2) Losurdo has been answering questions on that show for months. (Insult 3) Now on to your grammatical errors, (perhaps you are the result of one of DownHill Kevin's sociological experiements gone horribly wrong) Perhaps they were at a 'loss' for words? Um, if you listen to the show on a regular basis you would know that Rick and Donna are not ever at a 'loss' for words. Your sentence beginning with I'm sure, is a run on sentence. Finally, one doesn't ask 'to' someone.
what a difference a day makes
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 13:57 — Athey01Yesterday, Rick and Donna interviewed Mrs. Losurdo. They asked her "softball" questions and allowed her to provide generic canned responses. I'm disappointed that Rick and Donna gave Mrs. Losurdo a free pass, which did not help her.
Today, Rick and Donna interviewed Mr. Hill. They asked him good questions, which were direct and pointed. As a result, listeners could fairly evaluate Mr. Hill.
Perhaps Rick and Donna
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 14:59 — DrActualFactualPerhaps Rick and Donna thought it would be boring for their daily listeners to hear the same questions/answers discussed over again. This is why it helps to have both candidates at the same time/same question--like the forum format.
Do you know if
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 14:52 — twatts1000transcripts of those interviews are on-line somewhere???
Thanks!
If you go to WPTF.com
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 15:22 — WhalerCanethen click On demand, best of Rick and Donna. You can hear the interviews there.
Yeah I tried that
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 16:21 — twatts1000and the mp3s wouldn't work for me... I'll try again later...
Thanks!
I link to the interviews
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 15:31 — KeungHui (author)I link to the interviews whenever I blog about them. No transcripts exist so that's why I try to summarize them.
Thanks!
Thu, 11/03/2011 - 16:21 — twatts1000SSIA