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It's a bleak time to be a Wake school employee.

As noted in today's article, the letters went out this month to 1,496 people telling them that they won't be Wake employees after their contracts expire June 30. We're talking about a lot of teacher assistants, assistant principals and teachers.

Amid all this, parents will urge the school board today to not convert Leesville Road Middle School to a year-round calendar. In addition to the capacity arguments, they're stressing how leaving the school on a traditional calendar could save money that helps people keep their jobs.

While Beverley Clark wasn't specifically talking about Leesville Middle, she had voiced similar concerns at last week's budget work session. She had suggested studying converting four to six year-round schools to a traditional calendar to recoup some money.

"We’re talking about cutting teachers but we’ve got buildings that are inefficient?" Clark said last week.

Using the $250,000 savings quoted by Concerned and Committed Leesville Parents, we're talking about five teachers or a lot more teacher assistants.

Click here for the memos that went to principals telling them what to say to employees on terminating contracts. You'll also see samples of the letters that went to individual employees.

Wake says 674 teacher assistants are on terminating contracts. That's 26 percent of the estimated 2,550 TAs in the district.

Of Wake's roughly 300 assistant principals, school officials say 42 are on terminating contracts.

Including the assistant principals, more than 800 certified personnel (mostly teachers) are also on terminating contracts.

Rosa Gill, chairwoman of the school board, and board member Patti Head said they also have to consider the benefits of converting Leesville Middle. For instance, Head said it might allow some of the middle school's modular classrooms to be used by the high school.

Head said they can revisit the year-round issue, at Leesville and districtwide, in May or June. She said they might have finally got a ruling by then from the state Supreme Court.

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Recruitment

I do not think your comment really answers the orginal question. If WCPSS is firing/terminating X number of employees, many of whom were recruited to come to Wake County and now face losing their jobs, how can WCPSS justify, at this time, sending recruiters out around the country. Yes they should stop doing it and save some money until this situation has worked itself out. It doesn't look like it has been that hard for them to attract people to this point.

Problem is specialization

I think the problem is that teachers are so specialized that they can not be easily moved around like in a business.  So an excess of English teachers are not allowed to teach math, or a highschool teacher can not teach at the elementary level.  Also, many of the new hires are special ed which takes all kinds of training and certifications that does not allow lateral transfers. 

Recruitment

Mr. Hui, if WCPSS is in such financial dire straits and letting people go why are they going around the country recruiting. What are they telling the people they talk to? Any ideas.

While Wake postponed the

While Wake postponed the spring job fair, it will eventually have to look for new hires. Should Wake and other districts totally abandon recruiting and keeping their names out there among education majors?

Never too late!

· Gang activity in Wake County is rising. WRAL reported in an August news story, that our school system has seen a 33% increase in gang activity since last year. That’s in the schools! The same article pointed out that 49% of gang-related incidents last year occurred in middle schools. Ruth Sheehan wrote an article in the News and Observer referring to a gang-related murder that involved testimony on the part of 6th, 7th, and 8th graders. Officials in L.A. drew a parallel between an increase in gang activity and an increase in "latch-key" children due to a year-round schedule.

To think of mandating more middle schools to a year-round schedule is unconscionable to me in light of this information. Think about it - these “latch-key” children are easy prey. Home alone for weeks at a time during every track-out period. Lots of these families have older students who can watch over their younger siblings when all are on the same schedule, but now siblings have been split between different calendars.

Claims that it is “too late” to convert schools back to a traditional school schedule and/or to drop plans to add MYR schools hold little weight when I consider issues such as the one just mentioned. Is there ever a time when we say, ”sorry – too late” when it concerns a child’s education, and even, potentially, a child’s very life? It’s a valid assumption to think that there are plenty of latch-key elementary children around as well.

Even if skepticism exists over findings like those in L.A., dare we take a chance, especially if a conversion is not necessary? The least that our school board can do is to go back and explore that very question.

Too late they say? The Virginia Beach School Board just voted to convert back to a traditional schedule four year-round schools. http://hamptonroads.com.nyud.net/print/497200

They cited a savings of about $792,000, and claimed that,”most of the schools struggled to fill classrooms and [struggled to] show academic gains greater than schools on traditional calendars.”

It's never too late...

Wow

 

 Louise I always find oyu to be a fountain of knowledge, thanks.

Not surprising but wow.  Year round has not been good for my middle school boy.  His friends that are tracked out are waiting for him at the bus stop when he gets home because they are bored.   By 8th Grade YMCA track out camp gets old.  You can't go on trips every trackout and in lots of families both parents work because they need to.  The constant coming in and out is frustrating because it takes him about two weeks to get back into school mode.  As far as remembering better during because of YR, when he had 5 weeks off for XMas and his break, I doubt he came back remembering any better than a kid with 10 weeks off.  To me his whole attitude about school has become more lacsidasical because I think the social thing has become more apparent because their is always friends of his on break.  I miss the days when they all came home from school and they ALL had HW to do.  I have to push him hard to do HW and to go to bed (friends off want to talk on phone till late hours) etc...  I am a caring involved parent but this has made my job even harder.    I can imagine a bored youngster who maybe doesn't have the same scruntiny getting involved in stuff.  Yesterday I saw a young lady who pretended she went to school for band practice (to get out of the house) during trackout so she could hang with other tracked out kids and then went to bus stop to pretend she came home on the bus.  This is a "good" kid but a rising teenager - this is not a good time in their lives for these kids to have unsupervised free time.  Sorry if I wandered a bit....

MYR for us has been nothing

MYR for us has been nothing short of an emotional train wreck.   We can't afford track out camps, I had to cut back on my work hours to stay home and take up the child care during these track out periods.

 My children are suffering in school as they have lost focus and desire to even be in school because their friends are tracked out when they are not, and visa versa.

 I, too, also see many children, middle schoolers just wandering around town and around streets at any given time in "bands".  Not sure what they are doing, or what they are up to.  Yesterday saw a whole bunch skateboarding all over the place getting themselves into potentially dangerous situations with no adult supervision.

 But, I guess their welfare outside of school is not WCPSS's concern now is it?

No correlation

So you are blaming a groupf skatboarding middle schoolers on Year Round.  Sounds more like a parenting problem that is irrelvant to school. 

 

heartfelt words

Chris - your words nearly broke my heart. The very things you mentioned are among the top reasons why year-round schools should only be voluntary. Period. I cannot for the life of me understand how school board members (you know which ones) don't "get it", and how they can throw parental pleas, legitimate requests, and irrefutable facts out the window.

I'm still hoping and praying...

Thank You Keung

Hey Keung:

Thanks so much for writing this article. When an organization has the facts but plans to knowingly waste $250,000 on forcing an unnecessary conversion at one school alone, that is just IRRESPONSIBLE. In addition, they will be wasting at least $100,000 per school on most of the 22 others. The taxpayers deserve to hear about it.

I don't know how they could even try to justify wasting this money when they are planning to cut staff and programs that could be funded by the money that will be saved by operating MYR schools on the traditional calendar.

Waiting for a court ruling to consider reversals WILL be too late. (and I realize that is their goal) The fact is, there are not hundreds of kids waiting out there to CRAM into YR schools. Several MYR schools that are under capacity will NOT suddenly be over capacity if WCPSS wins the lawsuit, because there just aren't hundreds of kids out there needing a seat in those areas where the MYR schools sit with available capacity.

Hopefully this merry-go-round ride will end in October, but in the meantime there are some very SIMPLE changes that WCPSS can and SHOULD make RIGHT NOW.

Bringing this fact to light is appreciated Keung. We sure aren't giving up anytime soon.

UTILITIES and TRANSPORTATION $$$$$$$$$$$

Here's where the money is going:

· Utility costs per student have increased in the converted MYR schools, while the majority of those schools have experienced a drop in enrollment:

Here are graphs (finally!) comparing utility costs per pupil prior to and after conversion of 17 elementary schools. (see pages 2 and 3) http://www.saveoursummers.com/pdfs/utilities.pdf

Leesville Rd. Elementary is not included because cost figures for Leesville schools are figured as one entire campus.

 Also, the graph on page 1 of this link shows the membership figures prior to and after conversions. All of these schools fell short of projected membership figures for the 2008-2009 school year.

 · If you will recall, it was in 2007 that the massive conversion from traditional to MYR schools took place. Here are transportation cost comparisons from before conversion and after:

 From Associate Superintendent Don Haydon (Spring, 2008) : “Transportation Department staff compared the monthly cost for July & August 2006 with the same months in 2007 to estimate a difference in cost for transportation of year-round students. For July & August 2006, the average cost for each of the 2 months was $232,000 and for 2007, $472,000.”

Additionally, “Ms Lee, my understanding is that the costs were the actual costs for system-wide transportation for the two months. Thus, the data would show the cost for transportation for the schools in session in July/August 2006 as compared with those in 2007; those months were selected because most of the buses would be for multi-track schools.”

Unless I’m figuring something wrong, the system-wide transportation expenses just during the combined two months of July and August more than doubled, rising from close to half a million dollars ($464,000) in 2006 to close to a million ($944,000) in 2007.

*According to data from the U.S. Dept. of Energy, the monthly average diesel price in N.C. was actually less in the summer of 2007 than in the summer of 2006

BINGO BANGO, just INCREDIBLE!

Beyond incredible work Louise!  Thank you!

How about we buy ad space and print this on the front page of the N&O?  ;c )

 

Brilliant work, Louise

and I thank you.  I know only too well how much time and effort can be spent/wasted on the troubles within WCPSS and I cannot thank you enough for fighting for what is right and just for so very long!!

They need to unconvert more than 4-6!

Do they need a list from us, the people on the ground, to tell them exactly which MYR schools are " inefficient buildings"????

1500 educators being kicked out so that we can pay for dark classrooms. YET another example of just how IGNORANT the people in charge of our children's education REALLY ARE!!!

We don't need to wait until May or June Patti, WE NEED YOU TO GET OFF YOUR A$$ AND GET IT DONE TODAY!!!

Good luck Lisa!

BTW..WCPSS is getting 17.2

BTW..WCPSS is getting 17.2 million as part of the Stimulus Law. Thanking you for printing the truth with this situation. WCPSS is lieing its employess, and the public. The lawyers are driving this wreck and they are going to drive it off a cliff come June 30th. Schools are going to be destroyed July 5th, 1st day of YR, go to the board meetings!

Do you think Rosa Gill

Do you think Rosa Gill realizes how ignorant her comments are? Better off keeping your mouth closed Rosa. *jerking around for the sake of jerking around* is standard operating procedure for WCPSS. Time to make decions based on facts. Time to bring in a more intelligent and in-tune board. Time for October. And BTW Go Lisa.

But, hey, they're hiring bus drivers

Sorry to hear about school employees losing their jobs.  But, if the students aren't there, and the money isn't there, then that's the way it has to be in this economy.

It's baffling that they don't "unconvert" MYR schools when they know it will save money, save teachers' jobs, (ahem) educate more students.

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T. Keung Hui covers Wake schools.
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