The concept of going to school in the town you live in was repeated over and over again at Wednesday's public hearing at Fuquay-Varina High.
As noted in today's article, several speakers from Fuquay-Varina, Holly Springs and Willow Spring argued their children shouldn't be reassigned to schools outside their town.
"It makes sense to keep students at their community school," said Donald Kanning, whose Holly Springs subdivision could be reassigned to the new Herbert Akins Road Elementary in Fuquay-Varina
Lori Verni talked about how people like her had specifically chosen their home based on the assumption they'd go to school in their community. She talked about residents in her Holly Springs subdivision are business owners in town and are active members of local civic groups.
Verni brought it down to the level of what would happen if their children, if assigned to Herbert Akins, were to ride in a float in Fuquay-Varina's Christmas parade. She said parents would wonder if they should attend the Christmas parade in Fuquay-Varina or Holly Springs.
The theme was repeated so often that speakers said they weren't going to dwell on it any further. (The school board members ask parents not to repeat the same ideas during their presentations.)
During the hearing, Kanning made some waves with a shot at school board member Horace Tart.
Kanning and several other Holly Springs residents questioned why they're being reassigned to Herbert Akins when there are neighborhoods closer to that new school.
Kanning got even more specific when he asked why a subdivision developed by Tart wasn't going to Herbert Akins when he said that was closer to the new school. He didn't name the subdivision.
After the hearing, Tart said he didn't know what Kanning was talking about. Kanning had left by then.

Comments
Classic arguement
Mon, 01/19/2009 - 11:53 — shearertwThe arguement here is classic. It basically comes down to you trust and experience with government(s).
I, for one, do not believe that WCPSS (as a govenment organization) can effectively manage and run our schools up to their potential with any amount of resources.
Many studies have shown that strong communities are equally as important as great teachers, principals and adequate funding to school performance.
WCPSS's policies of MYR and diversity bussing alienate the community on every level. It destroys community support and community participation in the schools.
As someone who does not believe WCPSS or any other public school system can be successful without community and parental support, I will not support any measure for additional funds for these schools until the BoE recognizes the NEED for community support and implements policies that reflect this.
Agreed
Mon, 01/19/2009 - 13:42 — FalcI think this is one area where and reason why my hometown district seems to be doing relatively better than Wake.
I think when the community sees that the district is doing its best, people are willing to dig deeper to support that district. When people believe the district has lost its way, they are less likely to dig deeper to give more. I believe this is why my hometown district has been able to get higher millage rates (to offset decreased tax base) and bonds passed during tough economic times, not to mention enough private funding to fund JV and varsity athletics through the boosters.
after a nights sleep
Sun, 01/18/2009 - 10:17 — user1234I thought about what you said and I think you are saying the candidates need to live in a district but can be voted for by people outside their district. Actually,Cary has asked the State Assembly to develop something so I don’t know if that is what they will give us.
I think my problem with that will be deciding which person living inWake Forest to vote for since I won’t know any of them since I live in Cary . They will all have great pictures, lots of degrees and say whatever the public wants.
Commissioner seats
Sun, 01/18/2009 - 11:08 — SideburnsDid you have that problem when voting for the County Commissioners last year?
When voting for
Sun, 01/18/2009 - 12:11 — user1234When voting for commissioners it is usually about party. I hope that commissioners would look out for the entire county not the town they live in. At this time, the school system with country wide election, I think, would be very local … what are you going to do for my school … I am just not sure how it would work and what the outcome would be … it would be sad if the disparity between the schools grew such that we moved to “Wake is one of the worst systems in the state accept for these two school in these exclusive areas of the county. If you can not live in those two neighborhoods live some where else.” I would prefer that all the schools are above average and the community is willing to reallocate resources to make sure the entire system stayed healthy not just a few exclusive schools.
Both
Sun, 01/18/2009 - 10:09 — user1234"Which is it? Is WCPSS really more efficient as the largest school district in the state and can do more with less or does its size not translate into economies of scale? "
Maybe they are so efficient because they get so little money compared to other systems. I think what is telling is in relative terms how much less the entire community values schools with their contributions in Wake. It appears that other communities are willing to invest a higher % than Wake. I remember a previous entry talking about how greatFairfax , VA schools were only to find out they invest twice what we do as a community. I think we should be studying why 16 communities in NC value their schools more than we do.
Maybe
Sun, 01/18/2009 - 11:48 — SDR256Maybe people would be more willing to invest in something that they have more personal connection to. This system is so big that unless you're willing to reach across barriers it is difficult to see how to connect to it/get any kind of change from it. It is vague, looming, amorphous, floating on the edges of most peoples' reality - - current company excluded of course ;)
If its machinations were closer to the everyday reality of folks, they might give more time and treasure. It was only after my kids were in our neighborhood school (apparently our mistaken perception) that I started to see the bigger picture. And it was only after I'd volunteered for two years before I started to feel connected to that community. And then we were reassigned. It takes awhile, and the 'ownership' of the success or failure of that 'project' has a significant relationship to how much people are willing to invest. Most average people won't pour time and money in a project that discourages any kind of 'ownership.' Most average people are not idealist and not activists. They simply want to take care of their own. That's natural.
And if this system was more successful I expect people would be more willing to invest. As it is, it is a worrisome mindblower at 400 square miles and 700 nodes. Who can relate to that? Seems like pouring money into a black hole - a black hole with a vacuum attached.
Another example of how we need more personalization, connection and accountability on BOTH ends infused into our school model.
Good points … back to the
Sun, 01/18/2009 - 12:00 — user1234Good points … back to the sense of alienation people feel in big organizations and how to rectify that in a practical way .. work locally but care globally (e.g. health of entire system, country, etc.)
One way
Sun, 01/18/2009 - 12:58 — SDR256Well......one POSSIBLE way to solve that, user1234, is a community, or cluster, or local, or neighborhood (call it what you want - keep an open mind) approach.
I don't understand the leap of logic many experience when that is suggested, that it will result in 1950s segregation. I'm sure there are things we can do to make sure it doesn't. But we can adopt the benefits, such as personalization, connection and accountability that this model offers.
What do you think? possible to EVOLVE the system in this direction, while still safeguarding that this doesn't result in gated school communities? I don't believe in extremes.
I think it is a very good
Sun, 01/18/2009 - 13:31 — user1234I think it is a very good idea … one worth work toward.
One concern - I am just not sure how we form “clusters” across town limit, the beltline, etc. since people seem to associate so strongly with community being within some government created highway or boundary. Personally, I see a great amount of cooperation between the Cary HSs which was lacking in my hometown. The local bands and orchestras often play at each others’ events when needed and the Theater departments share props and costumes to help each other out to name two examples of cross school cooperation. Part of the “community” comes from the fact that the kids went to ES and MS together and than separated at HS but the kids and parents continued to support each. While there is healthy rivalry between the schools, it is not destructive or exclusive from what I have seen.
I will say that if housing was more mixed (e.g. low income and apartments better distributed) like a small town (e.g. one school that rich and poor go to) that many of these problems would resolve themselves. As long as people (black/white, poor/rich, Democrats / Republicans) don’t allow themselves to be segregate we will evolve to “communities” / “clusters” sharing the goal of a better overall community in turn gaining that sense of community and stability we need.
A question and a comment - ncdad or 1234
Sun, 01/18/2009 - 13:58 — Voice_of_Reason_Since you can yourself a Libertarian, not a Communist; how do you justify telling people not to cluster or segregate themselves by their own free will? What business is it of the government to infringe on our freedom to do so? [I'm not saying this is good to do, just proposing the question to you.]
Second, You talk about clustering just by town; what about by districts already set in the school board? Wouldn't that be fair, if those districts were fairly drawn?
Dadof3, sorry I felt like feeding the disadvantaged today ;^)
You must be bored on this
Sun, 01/18/2009 - 17:30 — loriacYou must be bored on this rainy Sunday. I've given up reading user 1234's (ncdad's) comments.
“how do you justify
Sun, 01/18/2009 - 14:44 — user1234“how do you justify telling people not to cluster or segregate themselves by their own free will? What business is it of the government to infringe on our freedom to do so? [I'm not saying this is good to do, just proposing the question to you.] “
People should live where ever they want. But government should not facilitate the segregation of people by locating all the public housing in say downtown Raleigh, limiting apartments to two bedrooms in wealthy areas, or locating all the social services in one area to name a few things governments does to influence segregation (income). The BOE should not warehouse all the poor kids in a few ghetto schools shield wealthy folks. Governments make choice driven by powerful business interests that influence inclusiveness … for example Cary does not allow “gated communities” while Raleigh does which I am thankful for. Likewise, the BOE is reluctant to take land from wealthy developers which may lead to exclusive neighborhood schools paid for by all taxpayers but only open to a few in close proximity.
By having mixed developments where old, young, black, whites, poor, rich, Liberal and Conservatives can call home we build a more inclusive, broad, well balanced community.
What kind of drugs do you take
Sun, 01/18/2009 - 20:40 — Voice_of_Reason_And how do you propose we achieve that? Let's see YOU buy land and the government says you have to sell half of it to the poor at rock bottom prices; the other half you let the market decide. That's fair...right? The infringement of liberty you propose is scary, to say the least. AND YOU SAY YOUR A LIBERTARIAN? COMMUNIST more like, let the government decide where you live, who your neighbors are, and where you have to go to school even if you didn't plan it that way(OOPS, sorry the last already exists); that's the only way you can achieve YOUR "utopia".
That
What kind of drugs do you take
Sun, 01/18/2009 - 20:39 — Voice_of_Reason_And how do you propose we achieve that? Let's see YOU buy land and the government says you have to sell half of it to the poor at rock bottom prices; the other half you let the market decide. That's fair...right? The infringement of liberty you propose is scary, to say the least. AND YOU SAY YOUR A LIBERTARIAN? COMMUNIST more like, let the government decide where you live, who your neighbors are, and where you have to go to school even if you didn't plan it that way(OOPS, sorry the last already exists).
If YOU would vote
Sat, 01/17/2009 - 10:06 — g88ky07to give this school board, or any school board, taxing authority, YOU have completely lost your mind.
I can't see the majority of Wake County even beginning to agree with that position. Whether bonds come off the table or not, the day THAT comes to pass, you'll have a few less living here.
And I'll be one of them!
Why would ANYONE agree to pay 3 times the taxes you pay now??? That's where they'd have it in a matter of hours after being granted that power and DO NOT kid yourself!
ABSOLUTELY NO WAY should they EVER have that power! NEVER!
Wake up g88. Your heart is
Sat, 01/17/2009 - 17:36 — CaryCurmudgeonWake up g88. Your heart is in the right place. But the Dems established a majority among county commissioners in the last election, and the CC Dem majority believes the BOE can do no wrong. WE ARE ALREADY THERE. Look for either a huge bond and/or a huge tax increase soon.
While no one wants to pay
Sat, 01/17/2009 - 18:57 — user1234While no one wants to pay more taxes, I was surprised by Stan's post on where Wake stood in school funding.
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WCPSS is 85th in funding operations per student among the 116 school systems in the state. The county, which is second in wealth, is 17th in contribution to operational funding. The state is 42nd in the nation.
Stan Norwalk, Wake County Commissioner
"Chicken and egg" situation
Mon, 01/19/2009 - 10:50 — FalcIs it that if WCPSS had more financial support (funding) from the community, it would provide a better educational experience and be a better steward of that funding?
or
Is that if it provided a better educational experience and was a better steward of the funding it receives, it would receive more financial support (funding) from the community?
I like scrambled eggs: I choose "B"
Mon, 01/19/2009 - 11:51 — Dadof3Stan sports an unusual affection for the "money fixes all ills" approach.
This easy, lazy and ineffective policy seems destined to remain with mankind until eschaton.
I think the WCPSS has to
Mon, 01/19/2009 - 11:45 — user1234I think the WCPSS has to fight for their money and they expend too much energy on non-educational items like land acquisition, building schools, promoting bonds, etc. That has resulted in people settling into being satisfied with an average education ($7,000/student) for an average property tax ($3,000). While people want to be likeFairfax , VA they are not willing to spend the $14k/student yet they want the same results. Couple that with angry parents who will work with tax hawks against school bonds to cripple the system for years in the future, where is the hope? Heck the fact that 16 other counties in NC which ranks near the bottom of the nation in education spending spend more than Wake tell the story. Yes, there is some magical group which will appear at the next election and wipe away all out troubles if you believe in those fairy tales. They will spend less; breakup the system into Town based schools and ship all the High Needs kids to SC and life will be good again.
Yup...
Sat, 01/17/2009 - 22:10 — Bob_SconceI don't have any deep objection to increasing school funding, even if it does raise my property taxes. But, that's predicated on a school board that will be responsible in how that money is spent. The current board doesn't cut it.
Hmm... When there is talk
Sat, 01/17/2009 - 19:38 — Eric_BHmm... When there is talk about breaking up WCPSS or cutting the central office budget, we are told about how WCPSS is so efficient and benefits from economies of scale because of the size of the school district. Now Stan seems to be saying that WCPSS should get the same level of funding as other school systems.
Which is it? Is WCPSS really more efficient as the largest school district in the state and can do more with less or does its size not translate into economies of scale?
Huh?
Sat, 01/17/2009 - 13:09 — Bob_SconceWhat makes you think that your taxes would be raised three times? The public would have the same mechanism to control tax increases by the school board as it currently does to control tax increases by the county commissioners: if they raise taxes too high, they'll be kicked out of office and replaced by somebody who would lower them.
The division between the school board and the county commissioners creates a really bizarre set of incentives, where neither board is responsible for doing a cost/benefit analysis. The School Board has an incentive to ask the commissioners for way too much money and then blame the failings of the schools on the "stingy" commissioners. The Commissioners, meanwhile, have an incentive to keep school funding too low because the public blames them when taxes go up, but not when the schools are bad.
Here's an example: with taxing authority, school directors would be less likely to pad bond referendums with idiotic ideas like a new weight room at Enloe (my favorite from the last referendum) because the larger bonds will limit their ability to spend on other things.
My kids are much more responsible with the money that they have to work at getting than they are with money I give them. I suggest that the school directors are the same way.
Did anyone figure out which
Sat, 01/17/2009 - 08:35 — vsheehanDid anyone figure out which one of Tate’s developments was not assigned to the new school?
Bigger WCPSS
Fri, 01/16/2009 - 16:26 — user1234If you want a bigger badder self taxing WCPSS, I noticed it is be supported by the Cary Town Council in their last meeting. See item 5 below.
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2. Operations Committee, January 8, 2008 (any item pulled from the committee consent agenda for discussion [agenda item B.3.] will be discussed during this portion of the agenda) (Mr. Smith) a. NC Legislative Agenda (AD09-005) Committee unanimously acknowledged the summary of action on Cary’s 2008 state legislative agenda and recommended adoption of the items proposed by staff and the State Legislative Agenda Council Committee for inclusion in the Town’s 2009 NC Legislative Agenda, with the exception of Item #8, which has already been adopted by the General Assembly. (Approved the following items: (1) Add Cary to S.L. 2004-98 which provides local authority to the Cities of Winston-Salem and Reidsville to order dwellings determined unfit for human habitation repaired or demolished after a period of six months (2) Add Town of Cary to G.S. 160A-200 to authorize an annual notice to chronic violators of overgrown vegetation ordinances. (3) Support implementation of the Jordan Lake Rules. (4) Establish an electoral process for the Wake County Board of Education that provides at-large representation. (5) Provide taxing authority for the Wake County School Board and relieve Wake County of the responsibility of providing funding to the Wake County Public School System. (6) Support funding for Land for Tomorrow and the NC Adopt a Trail grant program. (7) Support state-wide legislation that makes using a fake gun in the commission of a crime a felony. (8) Support advocacy agenda of the NC League of Municipalities. (9) Monitor General Assembly for action related to issues that could impact Cary including, but not limited to water and wastewater issues (interbasin transfer, wastewater pretreatment, reclaimed water, water allocation and supply), collective bargaining, annexation, and municipal funding sources.)
2. Consideration of a request sponsored by Mrs. Adcock and co-sponsored by Mr. Frantz requesting that council revisit the timeline for the Wake County Public School System to initiate required road improvements at Panther Creek High School. (Refer to the November 20, 2008 Town Council meeting minutes for prior discussion/decision on this item.) Council may take one of the following three actions: (i) Discuss the issue and take action at the meeting if no information is required from staff and if council does not seek public input, or; (ii) Refer the request to the appropriate committee or council meeting, at which time a staff report with staff recommendation will be prepared, or; (iii) Decide not to pursue the council initiated request. (Will ask the school board to come up with an agreement to allow road improvements to begin in 3 years and be completed in 4 years)
exclusive unto each other
Fri, 01/16/2009 - 16:30 — AngelaW(4) Establish an electoral process for the Wake County Board of Education that provides at-large representation. (5) Provide taxing authority for the Wake County School Board and relieve Wake County of the responsibility of providing funding to the Wake County Public School System
So, (4) and (5) have to pass
Fri, 01/16/2009 - 16:54 — user1234So, (4) and (5) have to pass together?
With taxing power, the BOE won't need bonds. With at-large votingCary will monopolize the resources and kick Garner and East Wake to the curb.
Hhmmm...
Fri, 01/16/2009 - 17:12 — Bob_SconceI could easy go for (4) and (5) passing together, as long as there's an intervening election between when the board is granted taxing authority and when they can first exercise it.
I suppose you could theoretically fund construction out of tax revenue, but those taxes would be enormously high. It would not take long for those board members to be booted. I would assume that the authority to raise taxes would also include the authorty to float a bond, subject to the same restructions that the commissioners have.
I see no reason to believe that people will vote together just because the live in the same part of the county. It's far more likely those votes will come from a coalition of people from all over the county. Sure, the people in control now will lose control. But, they are the minority and SHOULD lose control.
Bob, just like a woman
Fri, 01/16/2009 - 17:45 — user1234Bob, just like a woman honestly said in another forum that she lives inWake Forest and could care less about Cary and its schools. I think people in Cary probably have the same attitude about Wake Forest . I would vote for an all Cary slate given the choice. I don’t see myself voting for anyone from Wake Forest or anyone saying they are going send funds to Wake Forest . If you want your Town to get all the schools, you need to block vote for people who live in your Town and who will bring home the bacon to your Town.
Please correct my understanding
Sat, 01/17/2009 - 12:50 — SDR256Now wait a minute, is your point about majority vote based on the assumption that ALL BoE seats would be at-large? That seems to be the basis of your point, but I'm not sure. MY understanding is that there would be ONE at-large seat, and this is the modified model that was spoken about in earlier exchanges. One seat provides a balance to the otherwise entrenched district vs. district battles.
Now, given that, perhaps my understanding of the at-large model is incorrect - I'll have to check.
Bunch of alternatives
Sat, 01/17/2009 - 13:22 — Bob_SconceI would favor having them all be at-large. Alternatives have been proposed where there would be fewer than all.
There are several problems with districts: (1) because the new district lines are set by the old board, they're subject to gerrymandering; (2) because the county is growing rapidly, the districts rapidly get out-of-balance--Patti Head, for example, represents about 50% more voters than does Beverly Clark; (3) it makes finding candidates and the subsequent campaigning much more difficult; and (4) it gives much more voice in the elections to established players (the N&O editorial board, for example) than to the candidates, making grassroots organizing an up-hill battle.
Each of these is a problem whether there are just 2 districts or 9.
Well said Bob … since
Sat, 01/17/2009 - 15:08 — user1234Well said Bob … since they are asking the General Assembly to develop some thing there are lots of possibilities.
I would prefer having a well balance, uniform, equal, non-controversial school system with little disparity between schools, extra resources applied where needed, and allow parents to make more of the government issued education if they choose to at home or as part of the school (e.g. tutoring, PTA, etc.). But if the resources are up for grabs to whoever gets the power, I would have to side withCary and make sure we get as much as we can for Cary kids.
User1234Ok either you have
Sat, 01/17/2009 - 15:28 — vsheehanUser1234 Ok either you have multiple personality disorder, more than one person uses your sign up, or who knows what. A couple entries ago you talked about how all schools should be equal and that people should go to any school the system sends them to reach this goal. How did you go from communism to I would grab what I can for myself?
“A couple entries ago you
Sat, 01/17/2009 - 19:31 — user1234“A couple entries ago you talked about how all schools should be equal and that people should go to any school the system sends them to reach this goal.” You need to read what I write more carefully.
First, I want the schools to be equivalent such that we don’t have a wide disparity between schools such that people don’t feel a need to move from street to street to get in “good” schools. Second, I said if the system was not fair and gave more to the majority that I would fight to make sureCary was taken care of. I would work hard, support and fund at-large candidates that lived in and support Cary school. If everyone is not going to get the same than I want Cary kids to get the most they can. Third, I said if you are going to accept government education than ultimately you have to go sit where they want you to sit.
A view shared by .001% of the population
Sat, 01/17/2009 - 16:51 — Voice_of_Reason_User1234/NCDad1 is the result of a strange form of Libertarian/Communist mind-meld; obviously in need of psychiatric help. I think he is losing it or just toying with us for his amusement.
So voice, you are not going
Sat, 01/17/2009 - 18:49 — user1234So voice, you are not going to support the at-large candidate who is going to bring home the bacon for your kid's school?
No
Sun, 01/18/2009 - 08:05 — Voice_of_Reason_Only the at-large candidate that will work to fix the neglected problems we have today and will spend the money wisely. I want equity of opportunity and students quit being treated like pawns.
Since you and I don’t
Sat, 01/17/2009 - 13:09 — user1234Since you and I don’t know nor most of the people supporting it, nor is it spelled out in theCary agenda, who know what it will be.
Since I live in Cary, I figure we will out man, out organize and out spend Garner, Holly Springs, and the other small towns to capture the majority of the seats and direct more resources to Cary schools where the need is greatest.
Huh?
Sat, 01/17/2009 - 17:05 — Bob_SconceSo, let me get this straight -- you think that a bunch of Cary residents (let's call it the "vast Cary conspiracy," or "VCC" for short) will field a set of candidates who are secretly committed to sending all the district's money to Cary schools, and will somehow con the rest of the county into voting for those directors, presumably through spending enourmous amounts of money to buy advertising. The advertising, of course, would have to convince the rest of the county (as well as any Cary residents not in the VCC) that the candidates' goals are in-line with their goals, and hide the VCC's true objective.
Not only that, but you seem to believe that the rest of the county will never clue in -- the VCC will be able to repeatedly elect its chosen members by repeatedly conning the rest of the county. There will never be a time when the rest of the county (which constitutes a majority of the population) clues in, elects its own members and drains those resources away from Cary.
I don't buy it.
Bad argument
Sat, 01/17/2009 - 15:32 — SideburnsCandidates would still have to live within the district they represent. At-large is not a free-for-all. You could not "out man" other towns and get a majority of seats. Try again.
Well...
Fri, 01/16/2009 - 18:34 — Bob_SconceI suggest that Wake Forest woman would have a hard time being elected to the School Board even under at-large voting.
The county population is relatively evenly spread-out (not perfect, but a whole lot better than some other places. Very few high-rises here). It's simply not possible for Cary or Cary/Apex or Cary/Apex/Fuquay to elect all the board members without a good chunk of the rest of the county going along.
Now, the ones who should be concerned are the people who have had power in recent years. I can guarantee you that a slate of candidates elected county-wide isn't going to give a rat's a-- about what Hope Carmichael thinks. (unfortunately, for that reason, at-large schools face an uphill fight.)
As usual, spot on. Give
Fri, 01/16/2009 - 17:42 — CaryCurmudgeonAs usual, spot on. Give them taxing authority AFTER one full election cycle.
"Newbie" discussion...
Fri, 01/16/2009 - 11:59 — bestpawTo address some of the controversy on here about what should be done with "newbies" to the area...
I moved here five years ago. Before relocating, I did extensive research on the school system and made four trips to check out the area, look at homes, etc.
On my third trip, I found a house I fell in love with. It was in Apex and the assigned school was Baucom Elementary. Thanks to my fantastic realtor, she advised I speak with the school before making an offer on the house.
Thank goodness I did, because when I contacted the school I was told that it was "capped." There was simply no more room and thus my children would be bused to downtown Raleigh for school! It would be about an hour and twenty minute ride each way. I said "no thanks" and did not buy the house.
Instead, I researched what was then Wake County's Ten Year Building Plan. My kids were young, so my goal was to find a community that at least WILL BE building enough schools so that by the time my kids would need them, they'd be there.
I chose Holly Springs.
When we moved to HS five years ago, there was one elementary school. There are now 3 elementary schools, one middle (and another middle opening next year), and a high school.
My children were reassigned from one elementary to another two years ago when the new building opened. No problem. We understood... the new school they just built obviously needed to be filled.
However, it is now only 2 years later and my children are being reassigned AGAIN to Herbert Akins in Fuquay-Varina. NOT because there is no room in the three elementary schools in Holly Springs. But because WCPSS wants to provide diversity in the new school.
While I am not against diversity, I don't think the same children should be targeted over and over to deal with the overcrowding and diversity issues.
I specifically purchased in Holly Springs in a cognizant, responsible way, keeping the rapid growth and my children's educations on top of mind.
Further, even if we were willing to switch back to traditional just so we could stay in our community, that option has been taken away too... instead of Holly Ridge down the street, my child would still be sent to Lincoln Heights in Fuquay for "diversity reasons."
I pay Holly Springs taxes, I own a Holly Springs business, I volunteer in Holly Springs events, and I write for the Holly Springs newspaper. I live walking distance from the "center of Holly Springs" (town hall). To expect my children to be subject to another reassignment so soon simply to benefit someone else's children is simply not the right thing to do.
So, newbie or not, there is plenty facing all of us. I believe we need to work together as a community to make things work, but not at the expense of the same families over and over again.
Who do you write for?
Sat, 01/17/2009 - 08:24 — vsheehanWho do you write for?
Yea verily
Fri, 01/16/2009 - 16:23 — SDR256Amen BestPaw. If you mean it about working together, please send me an email at sdr25@hotmail.com. Join our diverse, cross county action group focused on creating stability and quality education for all children.
I have resorted to begging
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 22:33 — local23I once again have commented on-line (deadline at midnight) and have begged this GM & BOE to please let our node 379.1 attend atleast one of the closer MS (Mills Park, West Cary, Davis Dr or even Salem MS) so that we can be in our cluster of schools that surround our communities! I know I am just beating my head against a wall, but I am just praying they will keep our children in the most sensible feeder pattern of Panther Creek HS (that's where we are scheduled to go). Even thou we are actually closer to Green Hope HS. Does anyone know of a great transfer reason to give this GM to keep my kids in West Cary MS or the new Mills Park MS?..sad I know, but with work, living, community, doctors, ortho, dentist, special tutoring, sports, babysitter (PC HS), proximity, I need to keep my kids out our way. I am not bashing the EC MS, just it does not work for me to send my kids at 6:05 am to a school clear across town when they actually can ride their bikes to Mills Park MS or catch the bus at 6:55 am for West Cary MS. Also, with one twin needing special needs, we need the time out here. Thanks for any answers!
Look for a program that is
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 23:03 — user1234Look for a program that is unique to that school. For example, people use Navy ROTC to get intoCary since it is the only school that offers that program.
America's Best High Schools 2009
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 16:56 — user1234http://finance.yahoo.com/college-education/article/106444/America's-Best-High-Schools-2009
North Carolina
Best Overall Academic Performance: Green Hope High School
Town: Cary
GreatSchools rating: 9/10
Best Low Income: Monroe High School
Town: Monroe
GreatSchools rating: 7/10
Best Improved: Independence High School
Town: Charlotte
GreatSchools rating: 7/10
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Making the 'newbies' go
Thu, 01/15/2009 - 14:07 — jenmanMaking the 'newbies' go wherever there is a seat is just ridiculous. Like somebody else said--how do you define 'newbie'? I know people up here in far north Raleigh who used to live in Oakwood, Mordecai & Five Points but when their families outgrew their 1500 sq ft homes they couldn't afford to buy anything larger down there. So they moved out to the 'boonies' where they could afford a larger home. They contributed for years to the older ITB neighborhoods but they are now 'newbies' because they live in Falls River or Bedford?
What about all of the new construction and renovations that are going on ITB? Do those people deserve a seat in a 'local'
school or should they be forced to go out to Sycamore Creek because there is room there?
I see no need to 'punish' newcomers who move here. "If you build it, they will come". Unless realtors and WCPSS would be willing to honestly tell people "because you're new, you're going to go to school 16 miles away". I don't see that EVER happening. Business leaders in Wake County are too invested in having all of this growth to ever let that happen.