Wake County could be shopping for both an interim and a permanent superintendent this week.
The New Hanover County school board will meet in closed session Wednesday morning to discuss who to hire as superintendent. Donna Hargens, Wake's interim superintendent and chief academic officer, is one of three finalists for the job.
Hargens will be in Wilmington today to meet with the school board and to attend a meet-and-greet with the public. The other two finalists had their meetings last week.
There's been speculation in Wilmington that Hargens may be the favorite to win the post to lead the 24,000 student school system.
Hargens' competitors are James "Rick" Holiday, a New Hanover assistant superintendent; and Tim Markley, superintendent of Catawba County schools.
New Hanover is taking an approach that might not be used in Wake for the superintendent search.
As already noted, all three finalists in New Hanover are meeting with the public before the board votes. The prior two meetings have each drawn around 50 community residents. The district's announcement has also led to news stories profiling the three finalists.
Wake's search committee has agreed that, like New Hanover, no finalists will be named until at least the finalists are determined. But Wake also may not release the names of anyone other than the person ultimately hired.

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Interim superintendents
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 17:19 — Bob_SconceThe New Hanover superintendent search reaffirms my belief that the WCPSS board was right not to choose the NCSBA to do the search -- all three of the New Hanover finalists (found through an NCSBA search) were from North Carolina. WCPSS should be doing a national search.
(Not trying to say anything about the qualifications of the candidates they're looking at, but it is a strange coincidence that with 50 states in the US, many of which with far more school districts than NC, all three of the finalists were from North Carolina.)
Missing article
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 12:48 — PACK_MIKE77Anyone know what happened to the sister article in the NEWS section on this subject? It has gone missing. It was there this morning.
Missing article
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 12:48 — PACK_MIKE77Anyone know what happened to the sister article in the NEWS section on this subject? It has gone missing. It was there this morning.
Good luck. I hope she
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 10:08 — red_balloonGood luck. I hope she secures the position.
This is a good decision ...
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 07:44 — user12345This is a good decision ... the new board is an "in your face" micro managers with a political agenda and not a good place for anyone but a yes person .... WCPSS is in for years of struggle and strife as the new board tries to reverse years of building a good integrated public schools system that took 40 years to achieve ...
Uh....
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 10:18 — Bob_SconceWCPSS has had years of struggle and strife (Remember the WakeCares lawsuit, "Assignment by Choice", etc....). The only difference is that the balance of power has shifted some and we have a glory-hound NAACP chairman stirring the pot.
HMM...
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 11:01 — hmoncelleHarry_Moncelle
Bob, you did not mention the unprecedented growth in the student population over the past decade nor did you mention the past reluctance of the Wake County Commissioners who opposed every budget submitted by the BoE requesting the funds to effectively meet the needs brought about by the increase of new student into the county. The County Commissioners who have consistently paired back funds needed to provide solutions to the growth resulted in other choices being forced upon the BoE which included mandatory year round schools This decision of mandatory year round schools resulted in the law suit and increased polarization within our community.
Exactly right!
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 11:38 — virginiadareHarry, you are exactly right! Thank you for expressing so clearly how we got to this point -- unprecedented growth and lack of funding, which resulted in past school boards and administrations having to make unpopular decisions.
The past school board's
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 12:08 — woodstockThe past school board's decisions were not just "unpopular," they were stupid and counter-productive and led to increased drop-out rates, lower graduation rates, and unnecessary hardships on thousands of Wake County students and families.
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Mon, 07/26/2010 - 12:00 — SideburnsYup, all about growth. Get a clue.
From Feb 2009:
"If the district loses [the WakeCARES lawsuit], Dulaney said they'll have to revise the second and third years of the plan. He said they may need to consider outright elimination of the year-round program, as opposed to just reducing the number of schools."
http://blogs.newsobserver.com/wakeed/multi-year-in-name-only
Did you read the whole
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 12:09 — magnetParentDid you read the whole article or just that paragraph? He was talking about the fact that they might have to eliminate year round schools if the Supreme Court deemed them illegal. Not because there was no growth, but because the lawsuit could prevent them from existing.
So...
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 12:17 — Bob_SconceAnd he was dead wrong. The lawsuit was only about putting students into mandatory year-round schools without the informed consent of their parents. By the time the case made it to the Supreme Court, the district was already seeking that consent from parents. Furthermore, voluntary year-round schools (the kind where parents applied) were never at issue.
Dulaney was just playing "If we can't play by my rules, then I'll take my toy and go home."
"Dulaney said the board may
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 14:16 — danofnc"Dulaney said the board may not be able to leave in place an all-voluntary year-round program if it results in those schools having a very small low-income percentage compared to traditional-calendar schools."
What part of this statement is made up? It seems as though he was just saying that if a voluntary YR program wouldn't yield schools that were in line with policy (a policy that all of you say he defended without regard for much of anything else), then they would be eliminated.
It is puzzling that you guys always criticize him for doing anything to keep schools in line with the diversity policy, but then when he says he may have to do something because of the diversity policy you call him a liar.
So...
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 15:37 — Bob_SconceThat's not the statement I was reacting to.
In any case, note the quote: "Dulaney said the board may not be able to leave . . ." The board could have left it in place had it wanted to.
I know that's not the
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 17:17 — danofncI know that's not the statement you were responding to.....I included it to show that you took the statement you were referring to out of context.
You responded to a Dulaney quote and called him a liar, but I think that the statement I quoted shows his reasoning.
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Mon, 07/26/2010 - 12:16 — SideburnsThanks for your 11th hour perspective but you are wrong.
The Supreme Court was ruling on the mandatory assignment of children to a year-round calendar -- not if year-round schools were legal. If Dulaney didn't have complete control of YR assignments then he suggested ridding the system of them. So much for the growth argument.
There were plenty of schools
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 14:45 — magnetParentThere were plenty of schools that were year round with a base assignment area prior to the mandatory YR assignments. With the Supreme Court ruling, ALL of the schools that did not have the traditional calendar had to allow opt-outs (not just those that were just converted). Basically, it could have reverted the YR schools to application-only, like it was many years ago when first created. (As well as all Modified Calendar schools) They had to add a base area to those YR schools to keep the schools diverse - because some parents whined about how unfair it was. Dulaney's comments were based on this concern. It in no way is saying that we did not need these YR schools, since to be rid of them would overcrowd many schools. So I don't know how you can use this article to say that growth was not a factor.
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Mon, 07/26/2010 - 15:51 — Sideburns" Basically, it could have reverted the YR schools to application-only, like it was many years ago when first created."
Exactly. The fact that Dulaney would rather rid the system of YR calendar schools than not have complete control of the assignment of children at those schools is the crux of the argument. MYR schools were publicly touted as a way to save money and increase capacity. In reality (and as you noted), MYR was used as a way to increase the F&R of YR calendar schools since very few F&R families chose this option for their children.
And, btw, the Supreme Court did not rule that all YR/modified schools must provide a traditional opt-out. That was Judge Manning's ruling -- which was overturned.
The fact that Dulaney would
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 15:49 — jenmanThe fact that Dulaney would rather eliminate the extra seats provided by voluntary year round schools than allow them to be truly voluntary speaks volumes to me about the importance of diversity in the year round decision.
Patti Head said at a work session "We could fill the year round schools with volunteers but it would mess up the numbers" (meaning F&R).
Dulaney overloaded Durant Elem with so many base students that the acceptance rate for applicants was as low as 13%. He did not want families to be able to leave Wildwood Forest and Fox Road so he made sure our YR option was darn near impossible to get into. Meanwhile, Wakefield Elem only utilizes 3 tracks and is woefully unenrolled for a yr school. I once suggested to him that he give some of the nodes Wakefield Elem as our YR option so that more people could get yr who wanted it, alleviate overcrowding at WWF (we were absurdly overcrowded) and increase utlization of Wakefield. Of course that never happened.
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Mon, 07/26/2010 - 15:58 — SideburnsIt is so clear to me why Policy 6200 had to be rewritten. Sadly, those arguing in support of the old policy (mostly newcomers to the issue, I believe) will never understand the intricacies you describe in your posts. In the past, "diversity" was the problem and the solution in many assignment decisions.
I am no newcomer. Try to
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 16:38 — magnetParentI am no newcomer. Try to remember way back when YR schools were 100% application - There was great strife (ie. parents complained) over the fact that these YR schools were not diverse enough and that it was unfair. Responding to that "concern" (ie. giving the whiny parents what they wanted) they were forced to add a base assignment area. Then a different set of parents complained because they did not want to be put in that base. So they provided an opt-out transfer. The BOE has bent over backwards to accomodate these complainers, and that is what started to tear down Policy 6200, et. al. Just remember, any time a person or group complains about something that they don't like, the act of changing it will affect some other person or group.
A similar thing happened/is happening to Partnership ES. It used to be 100% application - for a very good reason - they required every parent to sign an agreement to volunteer for the school a minimum of 4 hours per month. Parent participation was incredible. It was an important part of the school. Some outside group (who likely did not know anything about the schools program) did not like that it did not have a base assignment area and complained. They were forced to add a base area, but could not require those families to put in the volunteer hours. That tears apart a very good program. (BTW, I am sure the group that complained about it were not in any way affected by the school before or after the change - they just thought it was "unfair")
So I could turn it around and say the same thing - sadly, those arguing in support of neighborhood policy (mostly newcomers to the issue, I believe) will never understand the intricacies in developing a school system that provides a quality school for all students.
ITB Perspective on Partnership
Tue, 07/27/2010 - 15:39 — shank56As I recall, Partnership was created by John Surratt to show that WCPSS could compete with new charters such as Magellan. The school was given pot of money and the 3 admin partners could choose how to allocate. The school was 100% application, no transportation provided - just as charters did. For a number of years the F&R rate was < 5-7 %.
Surrounding schools had F&R rates 25-38%. Our school lost 7-9 strong families to Partnership. Good deal for them- small class size and none of the "issues" that came with having 7-10 poor kids from the projects in their class at the elementary level. ( BTW, their leaving wasn't a racist thing at all. )
These families probably spent the better part of 12-15 hours a month minimum volunteering at our school in a number of capacities, like most of us (not F&R )did at our school.
To read that Partnership families had to pledge 4 hours a month volunteering was laughable to us. Attending a PTA meeting and reading to your child at night counted towards those hours too!
What they created was a small academy. Our school counselor tried to refer some F&R kids to Partnership but they wouldn't consider them because of their issues. No question there was some cherry-picking going on.
"As I recall, Partnership
Tue, 07/27/2010 - 16:39 — magnetParent"As I recall, Partnership was created by John Surratt to show that WCPSS could compete with new charters such as Magellan. The school was given pot of money and the 3 admin partners could choose how to allocate."
That is correct. Mind you, the pot of money was the same as for any other non-magnet school - $x per pupil, but with more flexibility in how to spend it. They chose to do without a lot of things so as to re-allocate the funds elsewhere. (No teacher assistants, instead smaller classes and parental help. No art/music teacher, instead parent-taught subject areas. Express busing instead of door to door service. Dr. Surratt wanted to see if WCPSS could compete with charters and show the importance of parental involvement.
Yes, it took a little while for the F&R rate to increase - it was a brand new concept school and not many are willing to jump into a thing like that. They had a mandate from the BOE to increase their F&R. I would say by the 3rd or 4th year of operation they got it to a comparable level (for instance, via the recruitment at Walnut Terrace)
Regarding the volunteer time. They had to promise a minimum of 4 hours. I guarantee you many put in a lot more than that. They had 100% PTA participation every year. I would bet that if you added up the volunteer time per capita at Partnership it would have exceeded the per capita volunteer hours at most (if not all) other elem schools. (And, BTW, while reading to your child was highly encouraged, and some times required, it did not count towards volunteer time).
It is a small school. There are not a lot of openings - even less now that they have a base assignment area. And believe me, they had application kids that were F&R and kids that had issues. I know one family that was referred to Partnership because their child had to repeat a grade and wanted to do it at a new school. But there is not room for everybody. They were not cherry-picking. It was a straight lottery (separate from the magnet lottery). A couple may have been added after the application period, if spots opened up.
The increase in
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 01:04 — KeungHui (author)The increase in Partnership's F&R rate is actually a fairly recent thing. For years, Beverley Clark complained about how Partnership had a much lower rate than other nearby schools. She tried a couple of times to get a base added but the board didn't go along with her after being told that the school was trying to recruit more low-income applicants. But Clark eventually got the board to add a base. I think it was 2006 or 2007. Due to the school's small size, they could only add a small base area at first. But they've expanded the base nodes over time. How that will play out under contiguous assignments in the future remains to be seen.
In 2004 (before the base
Wed, 07/28/2010 - 05:48 — magnetParentIn 2004 (before the base additions) their F&R rate was 19.17%. Certainly not the lowest of all ESs. After adding a base of approx 34 students (the current number in 2009) they have an F&R rate of 21.8%. Adding base students reduces the number of "required" parent volunteers, which is why they tried hard to recruit F&R students. Make it a school of all base assignments will destroy the program. BTW, though the school is an application school, it does not have magnet status and does not get magnet funding.
"Try to remember way back
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 22:38 — Apexter"Try to remember way back when YR schools were 100% application - There was great strife (ie. parents complained) over the fact that these YR schools were not diverse enough and that it was unfair. Responding to that "concern" (ie. giving the whiny parents what they wanted) they were forced to add a base assignment area. Then a different set of parents complained because they did not want to be put in that base. So they provided an opt-out transfer. The BOE has bent over backwards to accomodate these complainers, and that is what started to tear down Policy 6200, et. al. "
I remember history differently from you.
In the 90's, when we bussed for racial diversity, I do not remember strife. We had magnet schools to attract affluent suburbanites into some Raleigh magnets, and some low income children were being bussed into more distant schools for racial diversity.
Around 2001 or so, WCPSS saw the writing on the wall, and felt that bussing by race would be forbidden, and changed their policy to bussing for socioeconomic diversity. This, to my knowledge, was the first time that Wake County parents had a clue what the percentage of low income children were in any school. For instance, at that time, I would have told you that I assumed that Baucom (which my kids attended) and Olive Chapel had pretty much equivalent student bodies, though as it turns out, Olive Chapel had fewer low income kids. After the numbers were published, though, and we were told that it was a bad, bad thing if you had more than 40% F&R kids in your school, a lot of people became VERY conscious of this number, and very vocal if they saw their kids' schools approaching that number. WCPSS created a class consciousness that wasn't there before (or at least at anywhere near the magnitude it reached once these numbers were published.)
That was the year when WCPSS first began bussing affluent (non-ED) neighborhoods for diversity. Among these were some neighborhoods near current Laurel Park ES (which didn't exist then). These moves were necessitated in WCPSS's mind for two reasons: First, Dillard Drive and Yates Mill and Swift Creek were all very underenrolled. This was due to two reasons: First, WCPSS had chosen to build Dillard Drive and Yates Mill "for growth" into an area that was already adequately served by Swift Creek, when there was far greater demand for seats in western Wake. Second, WCPSS let the people who lived near these schools magnet out in record numbers. In some nodes, more than half the students in the base nodes were attending program or year round magnet schools rather than their base node, emptying out the schools. To save face, WCPSS reassigned our distant nodes with similar demographics to these base nodes into these schools, replacing the locals who got to have the stability and special programs of magnet schools, where our kids were just given a long ride to a distant school outside our feeder patterns.
The complaints about the low F&R in the year round schools came primarily from those schools that had the poverty concentration in their base schools increased by large numbers of kids magneting out --- rim schools such as Dillard/Swift Creek/Yates Mill, Jeffrey's Grove, Stough. The following year, WCPSS essentially blackballed a lot of nodes from having additional kids assigned to YR or magnets unless they already had an anchor sibling there. This caused additional uproar. There was a lawsuit from one family that lived across the street from Oak Grove and had a special needs child that had had doctors, psychologists, and Project Enlightenment staff agree that his needs would be better served at a year round school, yet WCPSS would not let him in (even though there were many open seats.)
It was following this that WCPSS began assigning some low income base nodes into year round magnet schools. While you remember this as "So they provided an opt-out transfer. The BOE has bent over backwards to accomodate these complainers," I don't remember it in such benign terms. I don't remember for sure if there always was an opt out transfer option for the first low income nodes forced into YR base nodes. If they were, though, my memory was that they were not provided with transportation. For low income families, unless it is a walkable school, that is tantamount to providing no option at all. I spoke out about this at the time, as I felt it was unconscionable. I certainly would not call this "bending over backwards."
It's interesting that you term people who argued against these situations ---- where families were being left with far, far fewer options than your family has had in a magnet school as "complainers" and "whiners." That shows a lot of compassion to those who have been offered far less from the school system than your family has received.
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Mon, 07/26/2010 - 16:45 — SideburnsI was responding to jenman -- not you. I have no idea who you are so why would I think you are a newcomer?
Please provide something to back this claim of yours:
"There was great strife (ie. parents complained) over the fact that these YR schools were not diverse enough and that it was unfair."
"those arguing in support of
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 17:51 — magnetParent"those arguing in support of the old policy (mostly newcomers to the issue, I believe)"
I was responding to that statement you made in your response to jenman.
The YR claim will take some digging - we're talking about back in the 90's, I think. Back when all YRs were application only magnet schools. Perhaps before your time? I will try to find some information if you would like. I'm sure there are others as old as me that remember this time.
ETA: Read the public comments made by parents in support of adding a base assignment area to year rounds:
http://www.wcpss.net/Board/minutes/10-09-2000--minutes.pdf
Those public comments were
Tue, 07/27/2010 - 00:49 — jeffrey1Those public comments were made to an Agenda Item. The notion of YR base assignment areas was proposed by staff.
Surely you are not suggesting that YR schools would have continued to be application- only if it were not for a few whiny parents that complained???
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Mon, 07/26/2010 - 16:54 — SideburnsOh, I get it. You are saying the parents that complained were the ones in more diverse schools and that it wasn't fair that YR parents who volunteered for that calendar had less diversity. So, because F&R families didn't choose YR, those complaining parents felt the school system should force it upon them.
Gosh, which is worse? Parents who complain about their own family being affected negatively or parents who complain so other families can be affected negatively. I know where you fall.
No, you don't get it. See my
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 17:38 — magnetParentNo, you don't get it.
See my other response about Partnership - same story, different school.
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Mon, 07/26/2010 - 18:15 — SideburnsYeah, I do get it. There was no other way to have a discussion with the School Board and staff unless diversity was part of the solution. In their opinion, it wasn't fair to watch some schools get reassigned for diversity while the YR program remained voluntary. How sad that parents and taxpayers would spend their time fighting to reassign other people's children. Diversity was the end-all-be-all answer to everything.
As I said in another thread, I am so thankful that Burns and Dulaney are gone and now all families are treated equally regardless of income.
BTW, did you speak at that Board meeting?
Slight correction - those
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 19:34 — magnetParentSlight correction - those schools got reassigned for growth. What you are not understanding is that a lot of progressive ideas exercised by the board gets destroyed because of selfish complaints. They may have been really good programs to improve achievement (citing Partnership and its parent participation) that could have been expanded to other schools, but a group who focuses on their own gains without understanding the benefits makes it inaccessible to all. (citing Wake Wednesdays, for example).
BTW - I don't know why it matters, unless you are trying to figure out my identity, but no, not that one.
Growth my arse!
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 20:28 — g88ky07That had nothing to do with it. You, and the others, can continue to spew that excuse until you're blue, but we know better. We've always known better.
So, are you saying that
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 20:54 — magnetParentSo, are you saying that there are absolutely no reassignments made due to growth? How does that work, exactly, when they open new schools every year?
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Mon, 07/26/2010 - 21:12 — g88ky07No one wants to hear my position on that fiasco. You wouldn't like what I would do if I were in charge, but it's safe to say the same would go for transportation! The free rides and guaranteed seats would be over!
You didn't really answer my
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 21:20 — magnetParentYou didn't really answer my question.
nor did you answer
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 21:28 — AngelaWnor did you answer these;
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 20:18 — Sideburns
Yeah, growth. Right. That's why Dulaney wanted to get rid of YR rather than keep it a voluntary program.
Are you saying those who fought to mandate YR assignments for others were being selfish? Or those who fought for choice for all were being selfish?
no and no.
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 21:48 — magnetParentno and no.
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Tue, 07/27/2010 - 08:55 — SideburnsSo, who are the selfish ones? Parents in general? Or just those that are fighting for their children at any given time?
hiding behind growth
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 21:10 — loriacThe previous BOE and staff HID behind growth to do their bidding. We are a built out area, yet 2 low income nodes were swapped between 2 schools for no reason. It resulted in one family leaving because the single mother didn't drive, and couldn't find an apartment and work w/in walking distance or a bus route near the new school. Many people pleaded to leave these nodes where they were - relationships had been formed, progress was being made - to no avail. There was absolutely no good reason (except maybe to swap modes around to change the school scores everyone was so worried about) to do this - and it was certainly not for growth. This is one example - there are oodles more. This is why the voters elected the new BOE by a wide margin. For the previous BOE - it certainly wasn't about the kids. For every growth argument you give, someone will give 3 examples of heavy handed BOE assignments that made zero sense, and that harmed families and the community.
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Mon, 07/26/2010 - 20:18 — SideburnsYeah, growth. Right. That's why Dulaney wanted to get rid of YR rather than keep it a voluntary program.
Are you saying those who fought to mandate YR assignments for others were being selfish? Or those who fought for choice for all were being selfish?
Uh
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 16:45 — Bob_SconceRe YR: Which parents complained? The only complaints I remember were from parents who were denied year-round seats because they were needed in their base school "for the numbers."
Not familiar with the Partnership situation -- I'd be curious as to which parents complained -- parents are busy, so organizing to complain about something that doesn't affect your kids doesn't happen much.
I'm still waiting for the district that provides a quality education to all students -- we sure haven't had *that* recently.
The ones who complained were
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 17:31 — magnetParentThe ones who complained were ones who were reassigned in some other part of the county, in no way related to Partnership. (same for the YR before they had a base - many years ago). They thought it was not fair that they got reassigned when there were no "reassignments" in Partnership. (because there were no base schools to reassign). I remember discussions about "let's see the list of schools affected by reassignment and those that were not. It's not fair that Partnership has no churn...". They wanted to spread their "suffering". Partnership stayed low on the radar for a while and worked hard to keep their diversity numbers up through recruitment. It worked for a while...
Hmmm
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 19:26 — Bob_SconceThat seems more like the district trying to redirect criticism than parents really wanting Partnership to have base students. Those parents didn't really care about Partnership -- they were just annoyed at their own reassignments. Sort of the "bring the top down" approach to equality.
About how long ago was that?
They likely were just
Mon, 07/26/2010 - 19:51 — magnetParentThey likely were just annoyed - but not understanding the program, they did not know what affect it would have. I would like to see more schools employ the partnership model - parent involvement is extremely important. If there was a way to require it of base students... but I don't think they can. Maybe they can require that of these "choice" schools.
Partnership (the brain child of a former superintendent) opened in 1998(?) and I think got a base assigned in, I am guessing, 2006 or 2007. It wasn't a sudden push, but more like complaints over time.
Interesting
Tue, 07/27/2010 - 01:04 — TrailerParkGirlPreviously, when someone mentioned KIPP schools they were raked over the coals because of the fact that the parent had to sign a contract meant that the KIPP school was getting the cream of the ED crop and essentially "cherry picking." I guess the same would apply to the way Partnership originally worked.
BTW, I'm aware of non-magnets that strongly encourage parents to sign a parent involvement contract (but does not have to necessarily be in the form of volunteering at the school.)
Cherry picking? I don't
Tue, 07/27/2010 - 06:33 — magnetParentCherry picking? I don't think so. This school was born on a progressive idea that parental involvement is important to the success of the school. They did not have a lot of the bells and whistles other schools had (ie. a school gym, art class, music class, etc) because they relied on parents to come in and supplement the kids education for free. The building is old. The "library" was the smallest room in the building. They recruited from Walnut Terrace, even offering an express bus and after school care, to be sure that the school had a diverse population. They were trying to prove a concept that parental involvement is important. Because they could not require parents to volunteer, they used the application as the contract. They had to have buy-in for it to work. I don't know how you can consider that cherry picking. If WCPSS could require it of all families, that would be great. Maybe putting that requirement on the "choice" schools is a step in that direction.(unfortunately, "strongly encourage" does not hold much water)
Oh
Tue, 07/27/2010 - 14:06 — TrailerParkGirlI'm right there with you on this one. (Actually applied to Partnership, but was denied.)
I was referring to what the response was from those who wanted to keep policy 6200 as it was when someone who supported making changes brought up KIPP. Basically, a “keep 6200 as is” supporter said high-poverty schools couldn’t be healthy. So, someone pointed out that KIPP schools are high-poverty and healthy. Then the comeback was the “cherry-picking” angle because KIPP requires parental involvement.
Unfortunately, as long as there are schools that do not require an “application,” I’m not sure what more can be done other than strongly encourage, not only signing but then also keeping to the contract. I don’t think we could go to a policy of removing students from their base assigned school because their parents don’t sign and keep to such a contract.
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Mon, 07/26/2010 - 20:43 — Bob_SconceI agree with you on parent involvement. The Missus and I are involved at our kids' school (she more than me) and are shocked at how many parents are just completely uninvolved. Or, actually self-involved. Feel like reaching out and slapping them upside the head "spend some time with your kid for goodness sake." More than enough time for tennis at the club, but not enough to go to your kids' talent show.