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Discussing benefits of rehiring Del Burns as superintendent

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Should the Wake County school board try to lure Del Burns back to be superintendent?

In an article today in The American Independent, Ned Barnett lists reasons why Burns would be a good choice to return to the position he resigned from earlier this year. For instance, the article says having Burns back could help secure more money from Democratic county commissioners and defuse the complaints filed by the state NAACP.

The article qualifies all this by saying that Burns indicated last week he won’t reapply for his old job.

Still, is it worth the effort to try to woo Burns back?

After all, the article says the cause of Burns' resignation has largely gone away with the vote halting work on the zone plan.

"Much of that heat disappeared when board member Debra Goldman bolted from the 5-4 majority in October,"  according to the article. "Now, the march toward community schools has been delayed, if not derailed, for at least a year."

The article says that Goldman might be "open to adjusting the assignment policy to ensure that no schools fall below a minimum level of academic achievement." The article says "that adjustment would effectively eliminate the potential for low achieving, high poverty schools that caused Burns to resign."

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"The article qualifies all this by saying that Burns indicated last week he won’t reapply for his old job."

An entire article wasted on a premise that the author admits won't happen.

If he'd really been a serious journalist, he would have fleshed out the article with more details.  For instance, if Del Burns, who has said he would not reapply for the old job, were to be hired for the position, would WCPSS provide a pink unicorn for him to commute to work?

What a profound thought.  I

What a profound thought.  I intend to spend hours mulling over the possibility.  (LOL, thanks).

LOL..Thanks for the laugh

LOL..Thanks for the laugh

I don't understand, is Ned

I don't understand, is Ned Barnett crazy or is he attempting to be humorous? I can't tell.

"Much of that heat disappeared when board member Debra Goldman bolted from the 5-4 majority in October,"  according to the article. "Now, the march toward community schools has been delayed, if not derailed, for at least a year."
 
Well, duh. The "heat" was caused by a few noisy extreme left-wing socialsts and now Goldman, with her very temporary power, has joined their ranks. However, no noteworthy goal should be to keep the heat down, that solves nothing. Let the extreme left flame away, it just means you are headed in the right direction. The louder they get, they less power they have. I want their hair to be on fire.
 
As for Goldman and the Superintendent, she should just cut out the middle man and go hire Meeker.

OH YES!  Please do return

OH YES!  Please do return so that, unlike Maurice Boswell, the WCPSS and the WC Commissioners can follow through on their investigations of the shennanigans you pulled on people that worked under you.

Let him return

Then he can be prosecuted more easily.

Won't fall below a minimum level of achievement

The article says that Goldman might be "open to adjusting the assignment policy to ensure that no schools fall below a minimum level of academic achievement." The article says "that adjustment would effectively eliminate the potential for low achieving, high poverty schools that caused Burns to resign."

i.e. = the expectation is that "poverty" students will ALWAYS stay low achieving

It will also effectively eliminate raising achievement because once again it will be all about REDISBURSING achievement instead of actually RAISING achievement.

Hey, if ES students get stuck in a school with an ineffective principal and ineffective teachers who set low expectations for students and use ineffective strategies, such that their achievement is subpar - no worries, we will blame the victim. When the students don't achieve, we won't replace the principal or the ineffective strategies or retrain the teachers. Nope, we will just give them new students to damage. Afterall, it must have been the students even though similarly situated students at a different school have much better results. We will just say some how, some way those must be a different kind of student. For "balance" the damaged kids will then be accepted into a MS to be mixed with the undamaged kids that got lucky enough to go to an ES that had a good principal, effective teachers and effective strategies. That's how you make lemon juice with your lemons and you don't even have to do the lemon dance. You make the kids do the dance.

It will also allow the power structure to continue where we can track the "poverty" kids, who just happen to be predominately black and Hispanic, down because they actually are not expected to ever achieve. But hey, we "care" about them and there's always prison or the welfare system to catch them.

No worries for our school system though because we have a plan to spread them around, so no one really notices that they aren't achieving like those "better" middle class white folk and all our schools "look good". No need to actually figure out how to close the gap. We'd been paying it lip service for YEARS and can just go back to doing that. We're "working" on it ;-) Just try not to notice three, five, eight years later we are still working on it because we don't really think it can be closed. (perception becomes reality)

Once again the focus will be on overall school scores, just don't look under the demographic breakdown rug. The business tools, real estate contingent, educrats and political hacks will be happy. The Blob can keep feeding on kids. It's all about the adults here.

Excellent summation of how

Excellent summation of how the "diversity" policy actually worked. 

"keep feeding on kids"

Every word of this is so well said.  Thanks TPG.  Having seen local incidences where the achievement gap has been radically narrowed or closed, and having seen how poorly that success is rewarded, I can only agree.  There is a subset of the kids who are serving as the chow.

When the school system touts each success like this instead of dismantling it is when the change will start come.  I believe and observe that this is finally starting to happen right now.  All it has to do is continue. It could easily be reversed. 

Only Tedesco seems to be forcing these equity issues forward.  That is a problem for those who hate and fear him.  He's doing good things that they are going to have to explain.

Certainly Del Burns would never in his life dismantle the system maintaining these structured disadvantages.  He knew who he worked for.  He was "resistent" to hearing that there was any problem with unequal opportunity in the district.  He hid the SAS report.  He created the fear that is just now lifting (except inside E&R where they are all still scared to death.  Its a little "fear ghetto" in there.)

We shouldn't ever think systemic disadvantages are peculiar to to Wake County.  For instance, Chapel Hill had a middle school program a few years ago that was ALL TOO SUCCESSFUL at closing the gap in science education.  Scores improved sharply, as they always do when the real problems are addressed.

(This is an important indicator. The achievement gap doesn't close incrementally when it is actually addressed.  It snaps shut to within a few percentage points.  These few points are where we can find all the social problems that everyone loves to compassionately focus on - everything we focus on when we place the deficiency in the victims.  The majority of the achievement gap is created by our educational practices.  This "snapping shut" shows that there are forces keeping it open - simply not delivering the basic instruction that would close it.  How novel is that?  Give the kids equal instruction.  Place in subsequent classes using faceless metrics showing their content mastery after equal instruction.  And the achievement gap dissappears.  It must mean something.)

Teachers in Chapel Hill describe the board members there who rapidly dismantled that middle school program in the sciences as the "country club" set.  Maybe.  Probably.  But we don't need a full-blown class conspiracy to explain these hidden educational practices. 

Most people want to do the right thing - or at least cannot stand being seen doing the wrong thing.  Its just a matter of bringing the practices into the open and keeping them there.  They cannot stand the light of day.

In Wake County, this is what has recently happened with the discriminatory discipline policies, and what is happening now with the 8th grade Algebra placement.  It was analyzed and brought into the light, and pushed into reality by Tedesco (not that this is apparently newsworthy to WRAL and the N&O).  Daylight is the weapon.  There aren't really very many vampires, but they sure hate daylight.

 

Sounds like a plan.  Return

Sounds like a plan.  Return to business as usual.  Back to the oppressive state, with his asst superintendents (one who definitely bullied their way to the top - covering up behavior, unacceptable for an administrator in a school system, by destroying the careers of anyone who knew about the behavior).  This is just what the children need.  An administration at the helm that cannot live up to the same character traits expected of the students.  (huge sarcasm font).

Oh H_ll NO!

Now that he's an admitted partisan, WHY would Wake County want to shift backwards? Why not just appoint Jim Black back into the NC House and put Mary Easley back at NC State!

Heck no he won't reapply

Heck no he won't reapply.  This is one thing we don't have to worry about.  He knows better than anyone that he got to resign under the appearence of some semi-noble pretense and got his tracks covered on massive sins.  Del Burns won't be coming back in just as the old toothpaste squirts out of the tube.  He knows where its aimed - his empty seat.  This is the man that let Wormtongue take over the district.

No. He** no. No way. No how.

Burn's departure is one of the best accomplishments of the board.  The fact that Goldman disagreed with the rest of the majority on the assignment policy doesn't mean that she's gone totally bat-s*** crazy.

"Much of that heat

"Much of that heat disappeared when board member Debra Goldman bolted from the 5-4 majority in October,"  according to the article. "Now, the march toward community schools has been delayed, if not derailed, for at least a year."
 
I think we will find out at the next board meeting whether the above statement is accurate.  If they adopt Kevin Hillibuster's planning strategy, then it will be at least a year before they come up with a plan.  In the meantime, the 3-year assignment plan which reflects all that was wrong with policy 6200 will be in place.  While the policy document may have been updated, a vote for Kevin Hill's proposal amounts to a vote supporting another year of diversity busing, onerous YR opt-outs and inequitable access to magnets.

What happens after next year?

That is what people want to know and they don't want to wait around another year to find out.

Next year the 3rd and final year of the UpChuck plan is up. Right? So isn't everyone going to be screaming for answers until then?

No one will be able to plan ahead or know where the children are going to school, another election next year will keep things idle until then, as Ron has suggested, no one has a clue what Debra will do between now and then, I think there is almost no chance these guys will come together to do anything on an assignment plan before then anyway, so the question is what is the public supposed to do? Sit around and not worry about it?

At some point will they just have to extend the 3 year plan, other than a few node changes, because there isn't anything to replace it with?

Did you live through the

Did you live through the last three year plan?  If you did and attended all the meetings and listened to all the debate and lobbying you won't want to hurry doing it again.  I say just let the plan go it's course and than bring in something new if you want.  Or tweak a few nodes to buy yourself  a year or two.   Schools and school assignment are hectic enough without accelerating the pace of change.

Yes, heaven forbid the wcpss accelerate anything

Why start now, right!

But the question is what happens after next year? Is it like the Bush tax cuts, they either extend Chuck's Plan and go on with it indefinitely or do what, let all the kids pay a higher price by rolling the dice on which schools they'll attend?

We don't need to buy a year or two, we have the wcpss and Debra Goldman taking care of stalling out any hope these current children had at getting some stability in their lives. Heck no, we certainly don't need to accelerate it.

More of us just need to find buyers for our homes and then we can accelerate ourselves right out the wcpss door. That's really the only answer isn't it.

"While the policy document

"While the policy document may have been updated, a vote for Kevin Hill's proposal amounts to a vote supporting (1) another year of diversity busing, (2)onerous YR opt-outs and (3) inequitable access to magnets."

1.  They removed diversity from 6200.  Is there something in the proposal that passed (Hill/Sutton/Goldman) that prevents any adjustments to the three year plan?  Is there something to stop Tedesco, Margiotta, Prickett, Malone, or any other board member from proposing to reassign any spot nodes to a school closer to home? 

2.  In crowded areas, isn't there always going to be a trade-off between keeping more kids closer to home and "onerous" opt-outs?  If there is only one "opt-out" for each house for a calendar option, should the board go with a closer option that may be more crowded (thereby allowing for less opt-out opportunities) or with an option that has a little more room but is farther away (allowing more families their calendar choice)? 

3.  Are you advocating no-base magnets?  Isn't that the only idea that provides for truly equitable access?

Hi Dan, You're right,

Hi Dan,

You're right, there's nothing stopping them from working within the existing framework to address some of the nodesmanship.  My sense is that the SAC was trying to put a long-term solution in place, but fixing problems at the node level may be the only thing they can do to affect the 3-yr plan.

Great Point

Great Idea. This would save us having to pay moving expenses.

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