Did Wake County Superintendent Tony Tata give enough information on the new single-sex leadership academies before asking for the school board to approve them Tuesday?
As noted in today's article, three of the Democratic board members argued they couldn't give their support without having more information on the academies. But Tata argued the board had less information when it had voted to approve the Wake Early College at N.C. State that opened this year.
Throughout Tuesday's meeting, Tata pressed the board to act that day. He said it would show Wake's commitment to start the academies as it continued to build partnerships with other groups.
For instance, Tata said they've talked with the General H. Hugh Shelton Leadership Center at N.C. State.
"Before we can have discussions with them, they need to know we’re serious," Tata said.
Click here for the handout on the single-sex schools and the K-8 Hilburn Elementary plan.
Tata said the genesis for the leadership academies came after he was approached by school board members Keith Sutton and John Tedesco.
But in a sign of the discontent to come, school board member Kevin Hill said that it appeared some board members have only known about the single-sex academies for three weeks. It was officially presented to the board on Sept. 6.
"The rapidity that we’re being asked to approve millions of dollars has got me a little uncomfortable," Hill said.
But Tata, in response later to a question from Sutton, said some people say he's moving too fast and some say he's moving too slow. He said waiting a year won't help some students.
"We can do this in 12-13," Tata said. "We need a decision now on it. I feel this is an excellent plan meshed together with the right program and the right facilities. It can enhance educational quality."
The tenor of the questioning continued during the public comment section of the regular board meeting, which again like the crowd consisted of critics of the board majority.
Lynn Edmonds questioned the legality of diverting bond money approved by voters in 2006 for use in the leadership academies.
Later, Sutton asked school board attorney Ann Majestic to assure the public they could use the bond money for the capital costs for the leadership schools.
During the discussion at the board table, board member Anne McLaurin questioned approving funding for the leadership academies when they hadn't approved yet starting the programs. That remark drew applause from the crowd.
McLaurin questioned whether they were putting "the cart before the horse." She said they usually approve concepts first before voting on the funding.
McLaurin said they should have discussion on the leadership academies first, prompting Tata to say they had discussed it during the work session.
Hill called for a motion to divide up the resolution. He wanted three separate votes. One would be a vote on the funding for the leadership academies. One would be a vote on Hilburn. The other would be on the rest of the plan, such as the ninth-grade centers and the new high school in Apex.
School board chairman Ron Margiotta asked Tata if they needed to vote on the leadership academies Tuesday to push them along.
"I think we are ready for the vote today," Tata said. "I support a bundled vote and I believe that we have a strong vision to efficiently spend taxpayer dollars, create more space and broaden our program offerings.”
I don't think it's audible on the tape, but I could hear Yevonne Brannon, head of the Great Schools in Wake Coalition, saying from the audience after Tata's remarks that "you shouldn’t be talking against your board members."
McLaurin responded to Tata that she didn't follow the process was being followed correctly.
The vote on Hill's motion was defeated 5-4 on a party-line vote.
Next came the 5-3 vote on the bundled $130.3 million plan with Sutton being the lone Democrat to vote yes.
"I support the academies, and I think they are a very good idea," McLaurin said. "I just have trouble doing that at this moment without a little bit of further information about them so I'll have to say no. Sorry."
Hill said he couldn't support the entire bundle.
The other Republican board members, as they cast their votes, specifically said they were supporting Tata and his request.
Board member Carolyn Morrison said she too supports Tata but not his bundled request.
(There's a lot more stuff from the meeting to blog about. I'll try to get caught up on them during the day.)

Comments
the boys club
Thu, 09/22/2011 - 07:45 — annerussellWhat's with all this military-background push to segregate boys from girls in the learning environment? Isn't Tata ex-military, and certainly Shelton is.
Not just segregate
Thu, 09/22/2011 - 07:52 — Dove314The former general also wants to mandate participation in ROTC programs as well.
Mandate? Segregate?
Thu, 09/22/2011 - 08:00 — starsonoursThe program is voluntary. How do you have a mandate with something that is voluntary?
Not optional
Thu, 09/22/2011 - 11:43 — Dove314Not optional according to earlier reports...
"All students at the leadership academies would be require to participate in the Junior ROTC program."
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Sat, 09/24/2011 - 10:29 — starsonoursThe academy is voluntary, ROTC is part of the program. If you do not want to participate in ROTC, don't volunteer to attend the academy. It is a choice. I wanted to attend Law school but they had all those mandatory classes about law.
You are wrong. It's
Thu, 09/22/2011 - 14:31 — woodstockYou are wrong. It's voluntary. No one is forced to go the academy. If you CHOOSE to attend, then ROTC is part of the deal.
There is that aspect
Thu, 09/22/2011 - 14:49 — Dove314There is the aspect that you choose ROTC when you choose the academy. But, if ROTC is very beneficial, why not have a separate ROTC academy? Also, why not have an opportunity for gender specific academies without ROTC? For a group who claims a desire for data driven decisions, if not now then when evaluating whether the program is working, how will anyone be able to tell whether success or failure is related to the gender specific component or the ROTC requirement or if it takes both gender specificity and ROTC to drive success or failure? What if a male academy worked, with or without ROTC? How would you tell you could save the ROTC program costs and invest them elsewhere? Also, on the "pre-planning" side, Has anyone done one a survey, since they are so readily feasible for WCPSS these days, to ascertain the demand from parents or students for either option alone versus together similar to the after the decision survey regarding Hilburn?
You've taken naysaying to a
Sat, 09/24/2011 - 10:53 — woodstockYou've taken naysaying to a new level. You seem to be complaining for complaining's sake. Clearly the issue of gender specific schools with an ROTC component has been discussed with community leaders -- including the CCCACC and Martin Street Babtist Church contingency -- in downtown Raleigh. This is evident from Sutton's support for the schools and the lack of outcry from the aforementioned organizations and Barber. It is obvious to me that they see the value of these schools in helping to address some of the challenges within certain student populations.
"Bundling"? Isn't that what
Wed, 09/21/2011 - 16:05 — xmarkspot62"Bundling"? Isn't that what happens with legislation at the state and federal level when lawmakers tack on additional provisions? At least these items were all related, but what was so wrong about calling for three separate votes?
OT: "we have wasteful spending in our school system now"
Wed, 09/21/2011 - 15:25 — Bob_SconceSee this -- http://www.northraleighnews.com/2011/09/18/9859/district-3-school-board-hopefuls.html -- a recount of the District 3 debate and note Losurdo's comment in response to the qustion about asking for more spending:
I believe we have wasteful spending in our school system now.
Gosh, Heather, the budget is public. You can look at it any time you want -- Where is there wasteful spending in the school system? And, if there is waste, then why hasn't the Board Majority rooted it out?
It's knee-jerk skinflintism like this that shows she's not the right person for the job.
Educational Lottery....
Wed, 09/21/2011 - 15:58 — KevPerdueHas anyone been keeping up with the education lottery debate? The state is spending less in regards to education now than we did the year before the educational lottery was passed. What a joke! I'm still mad our 'educational' governor raided the lottery last year to balance the budget! She's the biggest hypocrite of them all!
Rubber stamp
Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:10 — tartexanSo FSandYou, your approach is to not ask questions such as how much this will cost in future years and just vote yes if Tata says it's good. Isn't it a board's fiscal responsibility to ask questions about sustaining these new programs?
Questions have been asked
Wed, 09/21/2011 - 17:02 — FSandYOUnow it's time to get things done. We've studied crap to death in this county for years and look at where we are. More of the same from your flawed candidate, and those like him, is not necessary.
But thanks for asking.
Poor Anne
Wed, 09/21/2011 - 08:38 — FSandYOUShe just can't bring herself to actually accomplish something before she quits. Like Kevin Hill, she's been totally worthless during her entire time on the board and she obviously never got that we don't need to "study" every darn thing that comes around.
Thank goodness she won't be around to complain much longer.