It doesn't look like rising fuel costs are about to force any drastic changes yet in Wake's school transportation policies.
As noted in today's article, Wake could lose $4.7 million due to the state Board of Education potentially having to make up a $50 million shortfall in funding for fuel and teacher bonuses.
Wake's fuel budget has increased from $5 million in 2006-07 to $7.2 million this fiscal year. It's not surprising considering Wake is now paying $4 per gallon for diesel compared to $2.13 per gallon in June 2007.
But Wake, publicly at least, isn't going to the steps that some other districts are taking.
Johnston County is asking schools to consider cutting back on field trips. Athletic directors are being asked to limit the number of games being played against teams from outside the county.
Orange County has formed a committee to look at ways to reduce costs. Mike Gilbrert, an Orange County schools' spokesman, said he's had to explain to parents that state law prevents them from going to a four-day school week.
Charlotte-Mecklenburg has floated some fairly drastic cutbacks affecting magnet students. For instance, ideas that have been mentioned include not providing buses to magnet students who live within five or 10 miles of a magnet school.
in Wake, no such drastic measures are being contemplated. Don Haydon, the school district's chief facilities and operations officer, said they've already taken steps to reduce costs such as limiting idling of buses.
"We've been conserving fuel and looking for savings all along," Haydon said.
The savings don't apparently include reducing busing options for magnet students or limiting busing of students for diversity. (To be fair, Wake has reduced busing for some magnet students over the years by increasing the use of express busing.)
Kevin Hill, vice chairman of the school board, said the diversity policy is something worth trying to hold on to for as long as possible. He said he didn't know how high fuel costs would have to get before it became impractical.
One exception was Ron Margiotta. He argued that the rising costs mean that some changes are needed to reduce bus routes.
"Fuel prices aren't getting any cheaper," Margiotta said at Monday's board meeting.

Comments
Priorities
Thu, 06/26/2008 - 12:29 — Voice_of_Reason_If diversity busing is so important, prove it Mr. Hill. Robbing precious educational resources to get liberal awards is not a reason to harm our kids. If you don't want to scrap it all together, do it for elementary schools at least. Most of the arguments for "healthy schools/ diversity busing" do not apply to Elementary Schools. Real leadership requires taking a fresh look and assessing past decisions, not living on old laurels. Mr. Hill, quit drinking the kool-aid.
Diversity policy is not hurting other students?
Thu, 06/26/2008 - 12:09 — nymaThe school board's argument for their diversity policy has been that it is not hurting the other students. With the price of fuel and the amount of money that will now need to be diverted from other areas to cover the increase it IS hurting the other students. Look at all of the areas where money is not being spent so that we can bus children all over the county. When will we get rid of this ineffective policy?
Look Closer
Thu, 06/26/2008 - 11:19 — Randy Rockett (not verified)At our school the busses arrive 15-20 minutes before teachers are required to arrive to their home rooms WITH THEIR MOTORS ALWAYS RUNNING. The bus drivers have the kids who have eaten breakfast earlier at home remain on the bus while the others head down to breakfast and eat. The start-of-school bell rings at 8:45 am and the few remaining kids on the buses head to home room for 30 minutes of "morning work". Remember that? Then at 9:15 the day begins and children who come to school after that are TARDY. This is usually repeated at the close of school in the fact that buses arrive early and wait WITH THEIR MOTORS ALWAYS RUNNING. Oh, the principal wants the frees and reduced to have the full 30 minutes of morning work so they can improve. Are they? Unfortunately not. A quick thought: with 16 buses (just in the morning time alone) idling for 15 minutes = 4 hours of wasted diesel X 180 days of school=720 hours which =THIRTY DAYS of wasted diesel fuel just at our 1 little elementary school alone over the last four years that I can verify! Keung Hui ROCKS!!!!!!
Yep!
Thu, 06/26/2008 - 09:06 — g88ky07diversity, socialism and BOND FAILURE!!!
Sounds like they REALLY know how to continue alienating. They can't park the buses and unconvert ALL the schools, THAT would take TOO MUCH common sense, and THAT is something they simply DO NOT HAVE!!
SO, we'll just continue on our march to total BOND DEFEAT IN '09!!!
NO BOND!!!
While you are trimming the
Thu, 06/26/2008 - 08:23 — choice4allWhile you are trimming the school budget (BOE) get rid of that Trailblazer thing. Kids don't like it, Parents don't like it, Teachers don't like it. Besides its not what is used in the REAL world. Get back to basics.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25378336/
Quit confusing our kids. Teach them what 2X2 is instead of how many "Skinnys and bits does it take to equal 4".
http://news14.com/content/top
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 19:39 — bigwinniehttp://news14.com/content/top_stories/596894/possible-budget-cuts-worries-boe/Default.aspx
"Just this past week the Board of Education struggled for more than five hours to cut $39.2 million out of their initial funding request," said Michael Evans, a spokesman for the Wake County school system. "If they have to come back and cut another $5 million or so, it's going to be a very difficult conversation they're going to have to have among themselves to see how we can balance the budget."
Safety First
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 19:32 — al_in_garnerSchool officials tell Eyewitness News that no matter how much they have to cut, the safety of students will indeed be their primary concern.
Yup . . . safety will come right after diversity.
Well, maybe right after diversity and socialism and then safety. Yup . . . safety first. For the children.
compliance section in the
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 14:11 — bigwinniecompliance section in the back in terms of the Transportation Department
http://www.wcpss. net/accounting/ 2007-financial- report/2007- cafr.pdf
slightly OT
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 12:37 — bigwinnieSome claim that integrating kids by income is the best way to close achievement gaps. But consider the experience of Wake County, North Carolina, which encompasses Raleigh, a booming city with a strong economy and growing population. Beginning in 2000, the district has integrated its schools socioeconomically: no school is supposed to have more than 40 percent low-income students.
Wake County has garnered much attention and media praise for this program because its test scores have risen. But compared to the rest of North Carolina, is Wake County doing a notably better job of educating kids? Not really. Between 2000-01 and 2005-06, the percentage of black, eighth-graders across North Carolina who scored at grade level on state reading tests jumped by nine points. In Wake County, the percentage increased by only 6 points.
Over the same stretch of time, the percentage of low-income, North Carolina eighth-graders reading at grade level rose by ten points, slightly more than in Wake County.
Breathless newspaper coverage notwithstanding, Wake County’s educational progress does not knock the top off anything; it has roughly mirrored that of the state overall. Which doesn’t justify the district’s implementation of an intrusive, income-integration plan that was implemented in large part to increase test scores of low-income and minority students.
While test scores may not soaring in Wake County, logistical problems are. Demographic shifts, for starters. The number of poor residents is increasing, and that’s affecting the district’s school assignment plan. Thus, at the end of the 2005-06 school year, 31 of Wake’s 116 elementary and middle schools were over the 40 percent low-income ceiling, and enrollments in 18 had exceeded 50 percent low-income.
Such numbers indicate that Wake County is either unwilling or unable to stick to its income-integration goals. But bigger problems are arising from parents, many of whom — upset by lengthy bus rides across the sprawling county and by annual school reshufflings that will move 11,000 students this fall — are opposing the pupil-assignment scheme. Most recently, a group of middle-income parents won their legal battle against the district’s plan to force some students into year-round schools.
Other prosperous parents aren’t bothering with the courts. They’re simply pulling their kids out of the public system and enrolling them in private alternatives — exactly as some white (and middle income black) families did in response to race-based busing.
Parents love having their kids transported to school but their attitude changes sharply when bus rides last for hours due to social engineering. It makes little difference if students are bused to achieve racial or economic diversity — parents don’t want their daughters and sons used this way. Polling in Wake County, for instance, shows greater support for neighborhood schools than for socioeconomic balance in schools.
Whether or not income-based school assignments are Constitutionally permissible, they suffer from all the other logistical, political, and parental challenges as the race-based kind. Effective school-assignment policies do not offend vast numbers of their clients. Nor do they allow only wealthy parents to exercise educational choice, while less well-off families are stuck in public-school systems that they may not like and that may not be meeting their needs.
Forget elaborately gerrymandered school districts and pupil assignment schemes. School leaders ought to be offering parents a robust menu of high-quality educational options, such as magnet programs and charter schools, and improving neighborhood schools, too. That way, families can make the best education decisions for their children, choices unaffected by their income or lack thereof.
Schools need to return to the task at hand: educating all kids, regardless of what they look like or how much money their parents make.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZWUxYzY1OGEzYWVmOGYwY2Y2NTIzZTA1MmFkOGQ4YWE=
Thank You.
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 12:33 — RiversideRealistMr Hui,
Thank you for that very insightful, very succinct, very interesting post/answer. I think I can speak for all of us when I say we really appreciate how quick you are to answer our questions, and how much you do to run a very eventful blog :)
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I find that "those polls......showed little support for socioeconomic diversity" is not really surprising to ANYONE who has spent ANY amount of time involved in these issues.
I said "N&O poll"
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 12:21 — ConcernedParentchoice4all - Note I requested that N&O do the poll.
All sides, even those here, frame different facts in ways that support their view.
Newspapers are supposed to be objective and dispassionate. This is a chance for the N&O to determine how the population of Wake County feels about our public school's diversity policy.
Suppose the poll said 95% of people polled support the policy. Would you then spin the results or discount or twist the poll to your advantage? How the BOE or WCPSS reacts is immaterial. The facts should be known.
I want objective facts. If the majority of the population disagrees with the policy, that needs to be known and dealt with. If a majority supports it, that also needs to be known and dealt with.
Concerned parent Note
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 13:30 — choice4allConcerned parent
Note taken.
Would you then spin the results or discount or twist the poll to your advantage?
I am confident that the families would strongly object therefore no need to twist. I am, however, concerned that WCPSS PR department could twist and we would be nowhere.
I vote to Bring it on! Mr Hui?
Poll are a sloppy and sexy abstraction
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 13:45 — Dadof3As Mr. Hui points out, polls aren't cheap; a quickie internet poll is next to useless, from a statistical perspective. Polls as a whole are a double-edged sword. Ron Paul's internet polling was in the mid to high 30% range, the man never broke single digits in actual vote tallies nationally. Add the inevitable cross-criticism of methods, manner of question and what not; you don't have a binary fact/falsehood; you have a fancy abstraction.
But, yes, they do have value.
Caveat suffragium.
ok, Dadof3 I had to (once
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 13:56 — bigwinnieok, Dadof3 I had to (once again) look up a meaning and yet somehow I do not think this is what you had in mind;
"Advertisements for the herbal supplement Enzyte were designed to look just like ads for prescription drugs, even down to using a phony Latin name, suffragium asotas (caveat emptor would have been more appropriate)."
thoughts? your own definition? I'm stumped here..
Suffragium (way, WAY OT)
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 14:31 — Dadof3Suffragium means a number of things in Latin. I saw that page, too, but the medical industry plays fast and loose with latin, as opposed to, say blog posters from Wilkes-Barre. "Suffragium" was as close as I can get for "voter" (and, thus, "Voter Beware," as in "Caveat Lector" "Reader Beware") and classicists may freely paddle me if I reached too far. (Recall the word "suffragettes" from the early 20th century.
Here's more from wikipedia on "suffrage" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffrage
This online service offers latin to english, as well as a bevvy of others:
http://www.tranexp.com/win/itserver.htm
well thank you ever so much,
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 14:50 — bigwinniewell thank you ever so much, I knew it had to be something other than what I had found
from past editorials, it is
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 12:26 — bigwinniefrom past editorials, it is clear tht "higher ups" from either the N&O or even higher, are completely in favor of WCPSS' diversity busing policy. How objective do you think they would be?
Can the N&O do an objective poll of Wake County?
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 11:53 — ConcernedParentKueng, Can the N&O please do an objective poll of Wake County citizens to obtain an accurate guage of how people feel about the school diveristy policy, including magnets and busing?
It would be good to see a sizeable enough sample to break out responses by category - kids/no kids, income level, Raleigh/Cary or smaller towns, single child or multiple children, etc.
Designing an objective set of quesitons that wouldn't skew the results in either direction would be challenging, but the results would be very good to have. The sentiment here in the blogosphere is that the school board is implementing diversity over the objections of most parents. Does that sentiment transfer to the general population?
Poll
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 12:27 — KeungHui (author)Concerned Parent,
Polls are not cheap to do. The Wake Ed Partnership used to do polls every two years to see what people thought about public education in Wake. Those polls, which have since been discontinued, usually showed little support for socioeconomic diversity.
Poll for Diversity you
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 12:15 — choice4allPoll for Diversity you ask????
You have got to be kidding me!!!! They would'nt even poll the parents to see if we wanted Year Round or not. They will twist this just like they twisted Judge Mannings ruling....always to their advantage and never for the children.
Kevin's an idiot!
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 09:27 — g88ky07Kevin Hill has now proven he's JUST as single minded and dumb as the rest of this school board! Way to go Kevin, we knew you had it in you!
As far as this county losing almost 5 million form the state, GOOD! If THEIR busing agenda is MORE important than the reality on the ground let them yank it out of their stash and/or somewhere else, but I don't see the public willing to back ANY measures to make up that or ANY OTHER shortfalls when THEY choose to do what they do, cut what they cut and continue with failed EXPENSIVE policies!!
We don't ride a bus NOR WILL WE EVER as long as we continue to endure this public educational nightmare that THESE so called leaders have created.
So I could CARE LESS if they get fuel money or not!
And the bond won't help you because we're NOT SUPPORTING THAT EITHER!!!
IDIOTS, JUST PLAIN IDIOTS!!!
Do the math
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 09:05 — abackhouse17 million miles per year @ 6.6 miles per gallon equates to approx 2.6 million gallons of fuel. At $4/gallon - that's over $10M/year for busing.
School Supplies
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 08:21 — Tammy (not verified)It would not surprise me if we go back to school this fall and on the school supply list it says Fuel Money-$100.00.Get rid of busing that is so out dated.Bring back the neighborhood schools.
didn't know how high fuel costs would have to get before it became impractical. _IT HAS BEEN IMPRATICAL SINCE IT STARTED!
Stop the madness
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 08:06 — Wicked (not verified)Stop busing kids all over creation, and let's go to neighborhood schools. I wish someone would do that math. Then you could focus resources where they're most needed for various things. Why is something so simple being overlooked?
Brownies anyone?
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 08:05 — choice4allKevin Hill, vice chairman of the Wake school board, said he would not support moving away from the district's nationally recognized policy of busing students to promote diversity. "I don't sense any sentiment for pulling away from our commitment to healthy schools," he said.
I am looking for some of those brownies that Mr Hill has been eating.
Sentiment Mr Hill? Take the potatos out of your ears please, our throats and fingers are sore from complaining thank you very much!
Just take away AG services
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 08:02 — shearertwNo problem with rising fuel cost in Wake Co. Just take away AG services, increase class sizes, reduce foreign language options, decrease teacher benefits and/or pay, and anything else that is directly related to the quality of education.
Kevin, in what world is "busing for diversity" more important than any one of the items I've listed above?
Don't let repeated failure stop you
Wed, 06/25/2008 - 06:08 — Dadof3OK. Our diversity policy is anything BUT a diversity policy; it really is a Procrustean policy.
We are not achieving diversity, but, alas, social engineers in Scotland, Beijing and New South Wales think its the cats meow. So the BoE ('cept Ron, bless him) will press on, wait for it...
at all costs
Nice going, guys. When will you re-introduce paddling -- not for the kids, but for the parents who continue to voice our displeasure at your nonsense? I mean, what's left?