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The school board has agreed to switch Baucom and Green Hope elementary schools back to a traditional calendar.

Baucom will switch back from a year-round calendar for the 2009-10 school year. Green Hope won't make the move until Alston Ridge Elementary opens. It's schedule to open for the 2010-11 school year.

But in a surprise to some board members, they're also now considering today whether to convert Leesville Road Middle School to a year-round calendar.

Chuck Dulaney, assistant superintendent for growth and planning, said converting Leesvllle would meet the demands from year-round elementary parents for calendar continuity.

Dulaney said that more than 70 percent of Leesville's students come from year-round elementary schools.

Dulaney said Carroll and West Millbrook middle schools could serve as traditional calendar options for Leesville.

But some board members questioned voting today because they hadn't expected Leesville would be brought up by staff. Staff first mentioned the idea earlier this year.

The discussion on whether to vote was delayed by a fire alarm that briefly forced the evacuation of the building. The board is now back inside and having lunch.

Also today, the board voted against switching Salem Elementary back to a traditional calendar.

UPDATE

Click here for the online story. The board voted 7-1 to convert Leesville with Margiotta as the lone dissenter.

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Bigwinnie, I'm sorry-it

Bigwinnie,

I'm sorry-it really is a shame what this whole MYR mess has done to families.  It stinks!  I feel your pain...hang in there!!

I get it. I'm sorry for

I get it. I'm sorry for your loss and understand how that can really put life in perspective.

You need to opt-out, find private schooling or move to another county. It's not worth what you and Lisa B. have been going through. I'm not saying "give up"; just readjust and fight on. 

I'm fortunate that I opted-out last year and am very happy at our new school. I'm afraid, however, that our middle school feeder may change or be converted at some point. That would put me right back into your situation with one in HS at that time.

We must focus our energies on getting these fools out of office and getting some like-minded people to represent us. It can be done!!

Hang in there :>)

ok, ok back to groundhog

ok, ok back to groundhog day......the people in Charlotte fought the school system TOGETHER and made changes....right wrong or indifferent they MADE changes TOGETHER and THROUGH the courts,not blogs, not back-room meetings....Wake CARES is a group of parents who made progress through the COURT, sense a pattern here? complain and carry-on on the blogs, but it won't get you anywhere, other than perhaps a migraine or an ulcer.....

 The perverse pleasure that many take in mocking the trials of others is a pathetic display of humanity, and I'm sure MOST of them consider themselves "good people"....aside from name-calling (which is simply childish) the true ill-will towards people who are simply doing what they think is best for THEIR families is appalling. WCPSS dealt another blow to a large portion of the Leesville community. Whether you were for YR or not, the fact that they did that must be acknowledged and not belittled.

I lost and will bury my best friend on Saturday and the meanness and despicable and uncharitable nature of many on here is DISGUSTING in light of it all. We only get one go round, and we can only do what we think is right for our families. We cannot always get what we want but to gloat or demean or demoralize.....I bet these people also think they are "good Christians" too....pathetic.

Mean People Not Welcome

Mean comments should be kept to yourselves.   There is too much childish behavior going on here.  Leesville has been punished with MYR already.  It would be a true disgrace to punish your families with MYR again.

Nice post bigwinnie. Sorry to hear about your best friend.  Positive thoughts are with you.

Keung, this is a "test"

Keung, this is a "test" post. I've tried two different times today to reply to Lisa's letter, but my words have been lost both times. Don't know if I'll have time to try a third time, but wanted to see if this gets to you...

Louise

Question to Keung

Keung - someone already asked this question below.

What is the status of the new middle they are planning on Leesville Church Rd. behind CVS?

New middle school

As Lisa mentioned, there's no funding to build it now. It's not part of the current construction program. Considering the state of the economy, it's not even certain when the next bond issue would go out now.

Tried to tell you people in 2006..but you voted for the Bond

So here you still are, same complaints, same people, same stuff, different day/year! You all fell for the "it's for the chilren" line back then and the vast majority will fall for 'it's for the chilren" line once again!

Amen oh wise

Amen oh wise Oracle!

Let's see how many vote agaisnt it this time!

:c )

Where you here then g88ky07?

I watched some very 'strong' bloggers who were against the BOE,  buckle when the "talking heads" showed up.  They described the poor innocent "chilren" suffering because people hated the BOE.  Hate the BOE but vote for the "chilren" was their message! 

Many on here then DID!  I was sickened.  And, here we go again!

You are correct, we shall see how many vote no.  :>))

One Campus - One Calendar For Leesville

Wow...after getting thrown under the bus by Patti Head, staying up all night answering 493 e-mails concerning yesterday's unjustified decision to convert LRMS to year-round, now I get the pleasure of reading statements made about me by some anonymous "cyber-strangers". (what a wonderful way to start the new day)

I choose to post under my name because I stand 100% behind everything I say. It's easy to be critical when you're hiding behind a blog ID---I would appreciate anyone refraining from making attacks against what I am doing unless you are willing to come out with your real name as well. BETTER YET--feel free to call me if you truly have an issue you want to discuss--I really am an understanding and approachable person. If you're not willing to back up what you say, please don't say it.

If I had to guess who some of these anonymous bloggers might be, there is a handful of pro-YR people at LES who are upset about our huge, involved, and passionate "group". While our group is looking at the community as a WHOLE, these others choose to be short-sighted and selfishly only look at their own family and how decisions will affect them TODAY. Having differing opinions is OK, and rational adults can have different opinions and still be civil. I don't blame anyone for advocating for your own situation, but since I'm not calling you out by name and criticizing your efforts, I'd appreciate you not criticizing mine in this way. (thanks!)

The good news in all of this is that the Leesville Community is rallying like never before---I've never been more proud than I am RIGHT NOW to be a LEESVILLE PARENT. This news woke up many new people to our "effort" who thought they had "escaped" the MYR insanity--so HEY, SURPRISE, our group is even stronger and more passionate and growing by the minute.

 Unfortunately, we've already seen that WCPSS does not care about what the majority wants. This latest decision was made in a such a haphazard way and of course there was no chance to make comments---we just had to sit and watch that train wreck happen---LED BY OUR OWN SCHOOL BOARD REP. Since it was done in that fashion, I'd like to think that when we get the chance to really make our case, they'll have no choice but to convert LES back to the traditional calendar and keep LRMS on the traditional calendar too. (well, then again, I think in a rational and fact-based way, and logic and common sense haven't seemed to matter regarding MYR, have they?) BUT, we'll continue to fight this insanity for the good of the COMMUNITY.

The opposition to converting LRMS is going to be HUGE---even in comparison to what the ES had.

Yesterday the School Board claimed that they want to move toward putting COMMUNITY as a priority---and after 2 hours of this "workshop" they went and voted to convert LRMS to YR. So far they're receiving an "F" in regards to "community-friendliness" at Leesville, but now they've got nowhere to go but UP. Let's see how serious they are about actually LISTENING at the "Community Engagement" meetings this time around.

We may have been dealt a temporary setback, but the fight for ONE CAMPUS-ONE CALENDAR for Leesville will continue as strong as ever---THAT is a fact!

Anyone willing to share

Anyone willing to share their experience with YR middle school?  I do not have a middle schooler and won't for 4 years, so of course the situation could certainly change by then, but I am just curious what are the disadvantages to YR middle?  As an outsider, it would seem this is good for Leesville...more families can have kids on the same schedule, the middle school may be less crowded with smaller class sizes, and possibly less middle school reassignment this year for Leesville?  I realize this does nothing to help those with High School kids and causes a headache for them, but it seems like it has the potential to help keep more families on the same schedule longer....feel free to correct me if I am missing something or you have had a different experience with YR middle.

YR Middle School

We were on year-round middle school last year and found it difficult. When my oldest went to high school this year, we knew that we only had 4 years left together and did not want to spend it with the kids on different calendars. We put our 5th and 6th grader in private school this year. It is the best choice we ever made!

Our experiences with year-round middle school last year include:

It is difficult to schedule electives on a year-round calendar. The foreign language classes have students on all tracks in class at once. The teacher must utilize small group instruction instead of teaching the entire class as everyone is at a different stage in the curriculum.  The drama classes also have students on all tracks at once. The teacher must use projects that rotate in 3-week increments instead of teaching the entire class at once.  

The band is divided by track which causes problems in instrumentation and number of students. When certain classes are tracked out, there are 7 students in an 8th grade band class and 12 students in a 7th grade band class.

Academic classes are impacted as well due to students on different classes. On track 2, there were not enough students to fill all of the math classes offered on other tracks and at other middle schools. Therefore, the students recommended for 8 Plus Math in 8th grade were switched to Algebra. These students were not ready for Algebra and this went against the recommendations of their 7th grade teachers.  The number of students in homerooms varies from approximately 17 to 34. Students are scheduled assigned based primarily on their math class as that is the only core course that changes. In some cases, they are also clustered by ability in Language Arts. This determines the remainder of their schedule and they fill in science and social studies for the remaining 2 periods. Depending on the number of students who must have math and/or language arts during certain periods,  it can be difficult to balance class sizes. In 8th grade, there are 2 Algebra classes on track 4 but only 1 Algebra class on track 1. On a traditional calendar, students can be spread more evenly throughout the classes during different periods to make class sizes more even.  Geometry is only offered on track 3. Therefore, any student that was recommended for this class must be on track 3, whether it works for the family or not, or forego the opportunity to take this class.  Middle school age students are involved in a variety of activities which revolve around the traditional school calendar. As college admissions are much more competitive today, many of these eventually help the students when it is time to apply to college. When they are in school, they are unable to participate. If the activities happen to occur during track out, the family must choose between family time and activities.  Sports camps and competitive teams take place over the summer. There are many drama and fine arts camps and opportunities during the summer as well.  The largest regional band camp is at UNC-Greensboro in July. When asked whether they would considering offering the camp during 2 times due to the Wake County middle schools converting to a year-round calendar, parents were told that the majority of middle schools and high schools operate on a traditional calendar so they do not plan to change the schedule.  There is a study skills class offered at NC State which is highly recommended. It is offered in August. Students in school in August are unable to take advantage of this course as well.

Our experience with Middle school

YR has its advantages and disadvantage, and the degree of pro and con is as varied as the families that participate in YR. FWIW, we don't object to YR, just the de facto mandatory implementation that the DelChuck Ed Junta (tm) imposes upon us.

When our middle-schooler goes to high school, and the others are on YR, then the feces hits the fan, since family time is a high priority for us, it will skew the matter heavily into the cons-only territory, regardless of Chuck's assurances to the contrary.

It depends on your perspective

The majority of Leesville families and teachers think of themselves as attending a traditional school that is temporarily stuck with the year-round calendar.  Most are looking forward to the day they can reach the Midd. School to be finished with year-round.  Most are holding out hope that Leesville Elem. receives a MYR reversal.  If and when that happens most feeder students will be from traditional elem. schools.

Enrollment at the Leesville Midd. School has dropped too.

I would like to see research on converting a Midd. School that is not attached to a High School.  Especially one in an area not so opposed to year-round schooling.

 

Leesville IS a Traditional School Stuck On A Year-Round Calendar

Hey Leesville Parent:

That is almost word-for-word how I describe our situation at LES to people who ask me how we can continue to fight against the insanity.  :)

So many of us DO think of ourselves as a traditional school that is temporarily stuck with the YR calendar, which is why people don't want to even think of the possibility that we might have to be stuck with YR any longer.  YR was forced on us against our will (like many other MYR schools in the county) so we will continue fighting for what is best for the COMMUNITY in the long run.  In our case, it's keeping all of our schools following the same calendar.

One Campus - One Calendar is our mission, and I'm just so appreciative of everyone who has become involved just since the news came out yesterday.  The united community spirit is coming back to the Leesville Community and it feels GREAT.

Calendar continuity is SO IMPORTANT, and with a traditional HS there is no way we can have calendar continuity on our campus until all 3 schools are operating on the traditional calendar again. 

only one example I could

only one example I could come up with quick, but there are more;

 YR schools -- the impact on differentiated services.  There are probably only enough students to fill two classes of advanced language arts, but those students are distributed across 4 tracks.  So, rather than having a traditional calendar with 2 Advanced Language Arts, there's a YR calendar with none.

What is the status of the

What is the status of the new middle they are possibly planning on Leesville Church Rd. behind CVS?  Will this be a YR middle too?  If so, will they then convert LMS back once that opens?  Or will this new school end up being the traditional middle school for the area?   Is the school board even thinking this far ahead?  Also, anyone know the date this school will open?

New YR Middle School On Leesville Road

I asked Chuck Dulaney about using that land for a "6th grade center".  If the options to dealing with growth are (1) 6th grade center, (2) MYR, or (3) Reassigning some nodes to a MS that is geographically closer to their homes.  I happen to feel that the 6th grade center is the best of the 3 options for all involved.

(and by the way, LRMS has less students enrolled now than last year so they're not in an extreme "crisis" situation)

Well, Chuck told me that instead of a 6th grade center on that land he had staff working on plans for a "small prototype" Middle School (similar to Wendell) that would operate on a year-round calendar with a YR capacity of 1200.  Land is owned by WCPSS.  Need to find "funding" source.

THIS is another reason NOT to convert LRMS.  The Principal at LRMS said that she was told she'd get between 18 months and 2 years lead-time before they would force her to convert to YR, and she JUST heard about the YR possibility yesterday AFTER the vote took place. SO, if they respect her enough they won't force LRMS to convert until 2011 which is when Chuck said the new YR middle would be opening.

NO reason to jerk around the Leesville community any more!

Lisa,   So if they are

Lisa,

 

So if they are going to open it for 2011-2012, we should see it in a coming 3-year re-assignment plan?

 Is it contingent on passing a bond?

 

Money Needs To Come From Somewhere

The building of this school is contingent of finding funding somewhere, either through a bond or funding by CC.

Yesterday's work session discussions didn't sound as though they were going to ask the CC for a new bond in the Spring of 2009.

I agree with you a 6th grade

I agree with you a 6th grade center on that site would be ideal.  Did you hear anything about why this would not be feasible for 2011?   6th graders are truly still elementary kids-hence the k-6 certification most elementary teachers receive. The "it's for the children line, would certainly apply here!"    If they are going to do a middle school on this site as YR in 2011, then we may end up with too many YR middle school seats!  I just hope School board is looking ahead on this-all these changes year to year is not a way to run a school system!  

no money to build.....need

no money to build.....need money from either Cc's or bond or both.

Instead of this having to be

Instead of this having to be pro-yr or pro-traditional, why can't we really think long term and see if we can get the school board/GM to consider the idea that was proposed a year or 2 ago about "clustering" schools?  Each and every year, one "group" gets burned by the way this system is designed. - A whole new approach is needed including more stability and a way for it to work for all not just groups having to advocate for their position.  We need to reform the reassignment process or this year to year insanity will continue.  The cluster idea that was brought up a year or 2 ago where nodes would be given a real choice of schools in their community (not one miles away) including YR & traditional seems like the most workable option.  Bussing kids miles and miles is insane, year to year reassignment is not good for any kid, and of course we know YR does not work for everyone!  More choice is needed for all and we need to advocate for more communtity schools! Let's end the name calling, group bashing, etc.-everyone is looking out for what is best for their own situation, but it is getting us nowhere since every year we have many unhappy people! Bigwinnie brought up groundhog day and it's true!! We are doing the same thing year to year (bickering, in fighting, name calling, group bashing) and we have gotten no where but more reassignment & more switching-reswitching of calendars! It is a pity that we all can't find common ground and work together on these issues. 

Hey Lisa B., Sorry

Hey Lisa B.,

Sorry for the idiots giving you grief, but you keep at it JUST like you have been.  More support you than don't.  The lemmings are in the minority and can't stand it.

How about finding a new group of lawyers to create a "new" lawsuit to take them on based on the singled out conversions?  Then you could sue the parents against what your group has been and is trying to accomplish for just being lemmings!  ;c )

There's not much I can say except we know how the communist bunch on the school board think and that has NEVER been more clear.  I contacted the commissioners yesterday and passed along some constructive thoughts and things they BETTER be thinking about and foreseeing before their public education system TOTALLY caves in on them/us.  It's almost completely a dust cloud now and I think they are clearly seeing that.  This latest decision, illegal as it currently is, will have them stressing further about what the rogue boe has done and is doing and HOW it WILL affect them!

Let me know if you need some mouth and muscle, I'm ALL in!

LRMS conversion

If ever I wanted to speak at a School Board meeting, it was today, but I had a doctor's appointment for my daughter this afternoon.

Question - what type of year-round school will LRMS be?

Kueng, I know people are upset...

but is this okay in this forum? I have posted since right after you began this (changed my registration today though) and I've never seen it get this personal.

"Tue, 10/07/2008 - 21:34 — g88ky07

"I am not worried about getting reassigned, I live too close"

THEN you are an IDIOT!"

g88ky07 - I grew up in this school system and have been here my entire life, so I know what can and does happen in WCPSS. It is not going to help anyone by name calling or being nasty because someone doesn't share the same opinion as you.

Oh wipe your tears! Blame

Oh wipe your tears!

Blame the school board, they make everything personal with us and some of us are just carrying THAT forward by default!

I don't care HOW long you've been here, if you think living close keeps you immuned from reassignment, well at least it's the most laughable thing I've heard this week!

Civility

You can flag a message and see if one of the higher-ups want to intercede.

conversion to YR is ILLEGAL

IF you don't want your school converted to YR, get some money and file a suit to block it. These conversions are illegal. The NC statute commonly known as the "calendar law" states that schools that operated on a traditional calendar during the 2003-04 school year cannot be switched to a modified calendar. A multi-track YR calendar is a specific type of modified calendar. Yet it is a modified calendar. Stopping these conversions are in the hands of the people. So if there is enough support in can be done.

I have been searching NC

I have been searching NC statutes for some time now and have not seen what you are referring to in that it is deemed "illegal"....please direct me to this statute...is it part of 115C?

Uh...

Happen to have a cite for that?  I've read the calendaring law, Judge Manning's decision and the opinion in the court of appeals and this view doesn't jibe with those.  Under Judge Manning's view, which I believe is supported by the calendaring statute,  every student has to be assigned to a traditional calendar school, unless they elect a different program.  The statute is completely silent on where that traditional calendar school needs to be or whether a school which was previously on one calendar could be switched.

In fact, if you think about it, the "you cannot convert" view just doesn't make much sense because there would be no way for a district to add year-round schools without building new facilities for them.  That would be a big problem for districts without enough growth to support a new school.

Year round conversions

WakeCARES has already initiated a lawsuit on behalf of parents' rights, and having some success. They need your support! http://www.wakecares.com/

Leesville Community

1) Spring of '06 - when over 90% of the families voted to keep LES on a traditional calender. That was 2 years ago. Was this the vote at the infamous PTA meeting? Hmmm I heard about 300 parents showed up...better check your population count again ladies. That's not even 1/2. 2) Fall of '08 - when the majority of the entries in the staff suggestion box asked to be converted back to a traditional calendar. Okay the majority who voted. But how many actual votes were cast...60?????? Check LES population again girls. 3) Fall of '08 when the BoE received hundreds of e-mails asking for LES to be converted back to a traditional calendar while keeping LMS on a traditional calendar. Yes maybe they did receive a few emails...but I believe supporters of MYR also sent emails. Lots of us. ; ) Listen if your unhappy...then opt out. Beauty of Wake County...you can change schools if you don't like the one/calender your in. So all who oppose the "terrible conditions" that the MYR are creating...leave. I'm sure the teachers need to move on and teach rather than listening to you bI@$H. Let's talk about "family time".....your kids must not be seeing much of you when your wasting away in front of the computer all day bi@$hin' about how you hate the MYR, how you hate PH, how you hate CD, how you think PH is sitting there reading all this fudge and actually responding to it. ?? Please she's sipping on some wine laughing at all of you. So much hatred not good for the soul or spirit. It's time to move on or move out. The option is yours. Heck not many states offer as much freedom of choice (school) that we have here in Wake, NC. If you don't like your optout options try private. Then you can get 2 jobs to pay the bill and still not have the family time you so desire. You all sound like a bunch of hens. Chill out...go pour yourself some wine and contemplate what your going to do with your children tomorrow when they get home from school. It's the perfect weather to get outside and love life and enjoy your children. Peace.

"Listen if your

"Listen if your unhappy...then opt out."   

I agree 100% for those in base YR.  If 90% of the families at LES are unhappy with the calendar and opt out, and the BOE is faced with a school with 10% of it's current enrollment, do they really have a choice but to reconvert? 

"Beauty of Wake County...you can change schools if you don't like the one/calender your in."

Unfortunately those in base traditional calendar schools do not have the option to opt out.  Thousands were denied transfers to YR, yet the YR schools remain under capacity and the traditional are overcrowded.  Everyone needs to be given the opportunity to opt out, not just those assigned to base YR.

Uhh...

Under (1), note that each vote probably represented more than one student.   As-is, we don't count the votes of people who don't vote.  Ask yourself what portion of eligible voters actually voted for their current school director.

Leesvile parents -- there is a school director election coming up next year.  Patti Head is up for re-election.  Plenty of time to organize against her or (if she decides not to run again) whoever she endorses.  Find a candidate willing to run against her.

 

Please Come Out Of Hiding

Hey 1st&last:

Who are you?  Are you really a Leesville parent?  Do I know you?

Some of us are forced to spend time on the computer advocating for our families and our community.  Not my choice to spend hours and hours doing this, but I feel so strongly about this that as a community we need to do this for each other.

Ron M stated yesterday that the e-mails the board has received from Leesville parents wanting to reverse the MYR conversion have outnumbered those in support of YR by a margin of greater than 10 to 1 , and others have confirmed that so the Board HAS been hearing our "emotional plea". 

We've also got a fact-based argument against MYR which we'll just need to bring out at the Community Engagement meetings.  Ron asked Chuck to speak about the effect that a MYR reversal of LES would have on area schools, and before Chuck could even get started he was silenced and then they moved forward with the vote.  Patti had a mission, and it involved destroying the Leesville community even more than MYR has already done.  So sad, but true.

Rock On Leesville and Lisa B

Keep on rockin' Leesville and Lisa B.

Don't expect a response from the troll.  She popped up in an attempt to bust a hole in your airtight Leesville effort.  She clearly failed and will have to try another name and another strategy.

The strong survive.  You have proven yourself to be a true survivor.  Never give up.

We will NOT give up

Hey Rock On...

As if there was any doubt in anyone's mind, mark my words WE WILL NOT GIVE UP.  :)

As a matter of fact we're stepping it up a notch. The energy is contagious and we're FIRED UP for this next step.

Chuck was silenced by

Chuck was silenced by whom?  Ms. Benedict Head?

Chuck Didn't Even Get To Elaborate

Quick explanation.  Patti came out of left field and made this motion, she got a 2nd and then the fire alarm went off and we had to go outside.  When we came back in, Patti whispered to Rosa "we don't need to discuss this because the motion has already been seconded".    Beverley Clark asked to table this motion since it was so surprising that it had even been brought up and she thought more time needed to be spent researching it, but in the end Patti won.

Ron asked Chuck to talk about how reversing MYR at LES would affect the other schools, and when Chuck started to talk about the LES numbers he was directed to talk about how some of the feeder schools into LRMS would appreciate a YR middle, etc... and never discussed the impact on reversing MYR at LES. (funny thing is, during discussions with Chuck I found out that it would decrease LES' enrollment and raise our F&R, it would increase Hilburn's enrollment and decrease their F&R, and if any LES families want YR they can go to Sycamore Creek who has 428 open seats--a WIN WIN for all schools, but Chuck didn't get to talk about it)

Robert's Rules of Order

I assume that the BOE follows Robert's Rules of Order during meetings, correct?  If so, Patti and Rosa need to review them.  Once a motion has been made, and seconded, the discussion follows.  She assumes that a second sends it straight to vote--wrong.  The only way it can go straight to vote is for 2/3 of the group decides to dispose of the debate.  Are the minutes of the meeting posted yet? Did Rosa call for the vote without discussion?  If so, that is WAY out of line.

Rosa Didn't Have Her "Cheat Sheet"

I think it was Kevin Hill who asked if Rosa had her "cheat sheet" to help her know what to do...she truly was at a loss...

She did allow comments (3 "pro" and 3 "con") to Beverley Clark's motion to table the conversion to future.

In over her head!

It does sound like Rosa was way in over her head and Patti used that to her advantage.  Discussion should have been on the orginial motion which I believe Patti made--not on the Beverly Clark motion.  Was the Beverly Clark motion defeated? or did they bother to take a vote?  Patti knew exactly what she was doing--sad that Rosa didn't!!  Not that it changes the outcome, but it does show they really don't know what they are doing--whether it is running a meeting, or making decisions that affect thousands of children and families!  Sad.

I don't get it

So, don't protest wrongs, just sip the kool-aid and enjoy what ever the state sticks you with?

I thought dissent was patriotic?

question for 1st and last

Is Leesville your base school or did you opt in?  Doesn't matter what you say here - I know who you are and know that you applied to go to Leesville because your base school is traditional.  Go back home.

the generous WCPSS opt out policy

From your screed, 1st and last "Listen if your unhappy...then opt out. Beauty of Wake County...you can
change schools if you don't like the one/calender your in."   Ummm, yeah.  Wake County gives unrealistic opt-out schools, on purpose so people won't choose them.  Another problem is We.pay.taxes.  So if we choose to go the private school or homeschool route, we are paying twice. 

 

By the way, it's you're (you are) not your. 

Double-edged sword

FM: as an advocate for vouchers, the problem I have with the "double-taxation" argument is that people without children in the system can (and do) take the same argument and advocate for not paying into any educational system.

However, any tax payer has the right to voice their views on public spending; we're simply more animated as parents with children in the system, and MYR makes family time even more rare -- which is why I fight it and not drink WCPSS kool-aid, so others won't have to. (Despite my advanced age, I remain an optimist.)

My guess is that 1st&last simply can't be bothered with our "trifle annoyances;" not unlike "let them eat cake."

my guess is 1st&last ONLY

my guess is 1st&last ONLY has elementary school kids now so the MYR of middle will only help.....and with her kids being so young, who knows what it will be like by high school, so it's the "it doesn't affect ME" attitude that is a small minority at LES.

What?

What you're saying basically amounts to "If your neighbors jump off a bridge, you should, too."  I prefer yr because it works better for my family, and my family is my number one priority.  I will continue to fight for yr at Leesville, regardless of the name calling (Communist?  Really?) on this blog or what people say behind my back.  I'm not in this for the fun of it.  Those of you who act like I'm a traitor to the human race because I like yr need to get a grip.  And you also need to understand that there are many more in this fight with me and that we will not be pushed around by the traditional calendar advocates.  You've turned the fight for traditional calendar at Leesville into an emotional free-for-all, and I wouldn't blame the BOE one iota if they are just over the entire lot of you, and no longer willing to hear what you have to say.

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T. Keung Hui covers Wake schools.
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