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Class-size waivers in state hands

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The class-size waivers are now in the hands of the state Board of Education.

As noted in today's article, the school board voted Tuesday to request waivers for 329 K-3 classes at 66 elementary schools. School administrators are blaming the need for the waivers on the state budget problems.

"We’re not at a position we want to be in," Supt. Del Burns told board members. "We wish classes weren’t at this size. We’re still dealing with the impact of the economy.”

Because of the what turned out to be a $3.2 billion revenue shortfall, Burns told principals to only fill 95 percent of positions this year. That's why 1,496 employees weren't automatically rehired when their contracts expired June 30.

Administrators didn't have the updated totals Tuesday on how many of the terminating-contract employees were rehired. It had been over 900 before the school year started.

The state Board gave the state Department of Public Instruction the authority last year to handle requests for waivers.

Chief Area Supt. Danny Barnes told school board members on Tuesday that the district didn't receive a response last school year on any of the requests for waivers.

Philip Price, chief finance officer at DPI, said Tuesday all of Wake's requests were approved last year. He said that DPI leadership had hoped to meet with the leadership of the school system about handling new requests. He said the meeting hadn't been scheduled yet.

DPI could give Wake more money to hire teachers to lower class size. That's not likely based on the state of the economy.

DPi could approve the waivers.

DPI could reject the waivers, forcing Wake to spend more of its money. One thing that might impact the issue is how Gov. Perdue and state board chairman Bill Harrison have questioned whether Wake should have used more of the stimulus money to retain teachers to keep class sizes down.

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I'm really curious to see if

I'm really curious to see if our math scores improve any with these Math Coaches. I just can't see how this was a good use of the money. A few teachers I've talked to have been unimpressed with what the math coach is doing at their school--teaching a few math lessons in the classroom and getting up to speed on the new curriculum.

Yes, this is definately a

Yes, this is definately a waste of money.  There's nothing NEW to the curriculum.  They have ONLY restructured some of the objectives, illiminating some obj. in one grade and moving it to another, etc.  BUT it is so important to have all this training on something that isn't NEW.  The "words" have changed, but nothing else.  I don't need someone to come in and teach a math lesson, I don't need someone to model a lesson for me.  I know how to teach, I know my curriculum...just get these class sizes down by using money for CLASSROOM TEACHER positions.

I totally agree. It would be

I totally agree. It would be more sense to hire more teachers/ TAs. Can BoE revisit this decision for the next school year?

interesting to see what the state will do

So WCPSS turns down federal money that presumably would keep class sizes down and save jobs and now needs to ask for waivers which might have been prevented by taking the federal money - which my understanding is that it was a grant not a loan.
Seems like the state DOI is enjoying working with the current WCPSS as much as us parents are.

"So WCPSS turns down

"So WCPSS turns down federal money"

 I don't think WCPSS  ever turned down any federal money.  WCPSS  just chose to spend it not the way that Gov Perdue wanted them to as she was asking them and other agencies to cut their budgets.  

 

Stimulus money

Wake received federal stimulus money from the Obama administration. The money is in place for two years. Wake hired Math Coaches for its Title 1 schools. Math coaches are not supposed to work with children but work with classroom teachers in planning and implementing lessons from the new math series. Math coaches are off campus once a month for professional development. Perdue and the State board of education questioned Wake's decision to hire math coaches rather than additional classroom teachers to lower class sizes. It was hoped that the stimulus money would help maintain lower class sizes until the economy turned around.

Math Coaches???  Another

Math Coaches???  Another wasted dollar!!!!  Turn those positions into classroom positions and lower the class size numbers. 

I would be interested in

I would be interested in seeing the class sizes for all the tracks at the year round schools. Some of the yr requests were for only one or two tracks. I've always wondered how well the kids are distributed across all 4 tracks, including poverty and esl percentages.

YR schools

It seems the economy primarily had an adverse effect on Year Round schools. Very few waivers are requested for traditional schools!

All public schools impacted by economy

Staff funding is driven by actual enrollment.  Some of the YR waiver requests are from schools running at <70% capacity. All schools, YR and traditional receive X number of staff hours for various staff categories based on enrollment. Also, keep in mind that you cannot have 9/10 of a teacher, so just a swing of a few students can be the difference between hiring or having to let go another teacher or not. Principals have certain discretion in trading hours between categories (i.e. can trade a certain amount of TA hours for a teacher hour).  On traditional schedule a number of schools likely chose to trade TAs for teacher hours and hire another teacher to reduce class size. They can do this because all the students at the same grade level are on the same schedule.  For example, say you have 84 3rd graders – you can have 3 classrooms of 28 (over limit) and shared TA hours or 4 classrooms of 21 but no TA hours. On traditional, going from 3 to 4 classrooms means switching 7 students per classroom to a different classroom. On YR it means switching those students to an entirely different track schedule, which means their families have to completely rearrange their plans. Therefore, I think YR schools tend to not chose the trade for more teachers option, but rather keep the overcrowded classes and use more TA and other staff support to compensate.  What struck me in reading the waiver request was the large variety of approaches schools use to address situations where class size is over the limit. Like I’ve said, schools here are like a box of chocolates.

 

schools here are like a box of chocolates.

For the most part, each principal has flexibility within the school budget and  stated guidelines on meeting its needs. The  NC ABC's of Education:  Accountability, Basics, Local Control.

I know

I know and not saying I disagree with that set-up. I just don't think it's common knowledge/understanding just how much variation there can be.

 

It does mean though that Principals, and their individual philosophies, are pretty critical to the educational experience for students. In my experience school B (of Progress) has been a much better fit for us than school A (of excellence) due to differences in educational philosophies and leadership. Like a box of chocolates - you don't really know what you are going to get until you bite into it.

A really successful school

A really successful school has a great principal leader who activiely engages the staff and parents in decision making-  through School Improvement Team and PTA. 

Yup

that's a big part of what I meant.

HUH?

when has the economy ever affected government schools?

Uh...

In NC, schools are primarily funded by the State.  The State is primarily funded by income taxes.  The economy goes down, income goes down, income tax revenue goes down.

 In many other places, schools are funded primarily by property taxes, which are based on property values, which are reevaluated every 10 years or so. 

 The result is that school funding is much more vulnerable to changes in the economy in NC than elsewhere.

Wha?

Are you serious — or looking to score rhetorical points? Where were you last year? In case you're serious, google "wake county public schools budget 2009" to see the many fronts that were affected by decreased revenues through decreased incomes in Wake County.

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T. Keung Hui covers Wake schools.
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