Staff is recommending keeping the enrollment caps at Cedar Fork and Forest Pines elementary schools for the upcoming school year.
Asst. Supt. Chuck Dulaney told the school board this week that the growth in the base at both schools will be too great for the caps are lifted. Once again, this means new people who move into either school's attendance area will be sent to a more distant school that has the space.
Leaving the caps in place will have repercussions for people who opt out of year-round schools.
Dulaney is still recommending that Wake Forest Elementary serve as the overflow school for Forest Pines. He's also still recommending that Reedy Creek and Weatherstone elementary schools serve as the overflow for Cedar Fork.
But Dulaney also pointed out that all three overflow schools now serve as traditional-calendar options, both for application and non-consent families. He said the schools wouldn't have enough room to handle the Cedar Fork and Forest Pines kids if they're also serving the families who don't give consent.
Dulaney, as he repeatedly told the board this week, is expecting to send the non-consent families back to their base schools if Wake wins the year-round lawsuit.
But if the district loses or the consent forms go out before a decision is reached, Dulaney said some steps will need to be made. He said the non-consent students at those three schools, unless they applied in February and were approved, will be moved to other traditional-calendar schools.
This shows how a family's traditional-calendar option can be different depending on whether they submit an application or refuse to give consent.
The board will vote on the cap on Tuesday.
Click here for the handout from this week's meeting.
Comments
Mr. Hui - Question
Thu, 03/26/2009 - 15:52 — Voice_of_Reason_Was consideration given to moving the capped students to Forest Pines North or Wakefield Elementary? After all, they are right next to each other or in the case oof WES, a mile away.
No. But I suspect the fact
Thu, 03/26/2009 - 17:19 — KeungHui (author)No. But I suspect the fact that Wakefield and North Forest Pines are on a year-round calendar while Forest Pines is on traditional may have been a factor.
True Mr. Hui, but
Thu, 03/26/2009 - 19:04 — Voice_of_Reason_Are the alternative schools year round or traditional? Is this a new precedent that traditional overflow will only go to traditional calendar?
Wake has never capped a
Fri, 03/27/2009 - 09:46 — KeungHui (author)Wake has never capped a year-round school before. The only capped schools have been traditonal ones. They've always used traditional calendar schools for the overflow. I could imagine it would be messier using a year-round for the overflow in case you got a person moving into the area in August who didn't know about the cap.
VOR- there's a problem with your question...
Thu, 03/26/2009 - 16:48 — fiestamomVOR,
I hate to be the one to point this out. Your question makes sense, so the board won't understand!
Oh I understand
Thu, 03/26/2009 - 17:25 — Voice_of_Reason_I realize I do not meet the qualifications of today's politicians. I am not a lawyer and I think logically. That's why I have to live the Chinese curse (i.e. May you live in interesting times).
BTW- What's the difference between a lawyer and God?
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Thu, 03/26/2009 - 19:05 — Voice_of_Reason_.
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Thu, 03/26/2009 - 13:35 — SideburnsRegardless of why the current school calendar was designed, the majority of schools and school systems operate on this schedule. I don't think parents in Wake County are fighting just to keep a traditional calendar -- they are fighting to keep their families on the same calendar, their neighborhoods together and some sense of community cohesiveness. If, in a perfect world, every school was on a YR calendar (including high schools), I'm fairly certain many parents would buy in. WCPSS has shown zero concern for the needs of children and families when it comes to calendar choice.
And remember, the YR calendar has the same 180 days of instruction time as the tradt'l calendar. Obama has supported the idea of longer school days and a longer school year. This is where the "three months off midyear" would be affected.
a family on ONE school
Thu, 03/26/2009 - 14:02 — AngelaWa family on ONE school calendar?!?! I'll take it! year round or Traditional, just TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!
Shout it LOUD & STRONG!!
Thu, 03/26/2009 - 14:40 — g88ky07That's what I've said since this BS
started, so I am with YOU!
There is ZERO sense of community in my
neighborhood, a place where JUST 2 years ago we WERE a
community! This used to be a place where we did get to
spend time with our friends and neighbors! Thanks to Horace and his other
destruction loving boe non-thinkers, they completely destroyed that in less than
2 years! Everyone is on a different track, or at a different assigned school,
heck, we just had a family move in next door and the mom teaches at a
traditional ES. They have 3 kids, 2 at one school and 1 at another, both trad.
schools. I asked them, why did you move here? They will be all alone during
their "trad. summer break" I told them and their answer was, well, at least your
neighborhood is kid friendly.
Yeah, we're kid friendly alright, one kid on track
1, 2 kids on track 3, 3 kids on track 2, or was it 3, 4 kids on track 4, or is
it 1, 8 kids tracked out, 4 across town at a traditional opt out school, 5 in
private school, 12 at a local Christian school and 84 whose parents said _crew
this, I've had enough and MOVED!
Have You Contacted Horace for Assistance?
Sun, 03/29/2009 - 18:02 — Lisa_BHey g88ky07:
Did you ever contact Horace? Honestly--give him a chance---he just might surprise you!
oh holy mother, if these
Thu, 03/26/2009 - 12:27 — AngelaWoh holy mother, if these stinkin' politicians FROM EACH AND EVERY PARTY do NOT stop messing with my children and their education........
go pick on the parents who don't give a #$%@ about their kids and leave us involved parents alone!!!
Obama's Town Hall Meeting
Thu, 03/26/2009 - 12:15 — MudcrutchHere is a part of an article about Obama's internet town hall meeting today that might trouble some people.
From Obama's Town Hall Meeting today:
Obama says the best way to improve the nation's education system is with more money and more reform.
Obama said that greater investment in early childhood education and rewarding talented teachers would significantly improve the system.
He said the current school system — with three months off at midyear — was designed for an agriculture society centuries ago.
TOTUS needs a fact checker
Thu, 03/26/2009 - 17:30 — Voice_of_Reason_Besides the incorrect info on why summer break exists(anyone who went to school like me in the South w/o A/C knows better); who's going to pay for this....last time I looked, we are broke.
[Click on pic to see my blog]
By the way, TOTUS told President Obama in his web town hall meeting today that we don't need any non-technical jobs in the US, they are OK to go overseas since they don't pay a living wage. SO with the education system the way it is, why do we even try to help the kids that struggle in school, why don't we just put them on the "dole"? It would be cheaper. [note: sacasm was ON]
One of the most enduring
Thu, 03/26/2009 - 12:55 — AngelaWA funny thing about that statement is that you never hear a farmer say it. Why? Because it's not true! If you were going to develop a school schedule that accommodates the labor needs of farmers, you would have vacations in the spring when you plant the crops and in the fall when you harvest the crops.
So how did the traditional school calendar come into being? According to Kenneth M. Gold author of "Schools In: The History of Summer Education in American Public Schools," the long summer vacation is actually the result of an urban society. It turns out that it gets really hot in cities in the summer months. Before air conditioning was invented, spending summers in places like New York City was pretty unbearable. The best option for beating the heat was to get out of the city and head north, to the mountains, or the ocean. Hence, the summer vacation was born!
Why does the agrarian society myth still prevail? One reason is that fewer and fewer people come from agricultural backgrounds and have no background knowledge upon which to know the statement is false. Another reason is that their urban counterparts have long considered rural people as being backward and inferior. Don’t believe it? Look up the origins of the word villain sometime. The traditional calendar myth reaffirms people's perceptions of rural people.
Thanks Angela!
Sun, 03/29/2009 - 18:04 — Lisa_BHey Angela:
Thank you for posting that. It is funny how people seem to blame the farmers for the traditional calendar.
Thanks
Thu, 03/26/2009 - 15:33 — louiselee44THANK YOU, ANGELA!!!! Just one more "legend" that I am tired of fighting!! Believe me, I've heard some "doozies"!
You're wonderful!
thanks but
Thu, 03/26/2009 - 15:42 — AngelaWLouise,
don't thank me, thank this guy (thought I put this up there, sorry)
:)
http://mrruraled.blogspot.com/2005/01/traditional-school-calendar-fyi-not.html
Thank you!!
Thu, 03/26/2009 - 13:52 — srhudson06Finally someone gets it. It was too hot to have school in the summer, wonder why? 100 degree days anyone.
Honestly I am so tired of people wanting to spend time with their families and their extended families being considered weird.
Some of my favorite childhood memories is family gatherings. Its hard to see out of state relatives when your kids have 2 weeks off in the year in common (much less your own siblings).
This insanity must stop....