You probably won't see many, if any, Wake County school board members at tonight's public meeting on the superintendent search.
Heidrick & Struggles, the search firm hired by the board, is advising board members to stay away from the various public and private input meetings. The same advice was given by board member Debra Goldman, chairwoman of the search committee, at the July 1 meeting.
Goldman said they can't keep board members from coming. But she said "it's in the best interest of getting the stakeholder feedback that we're not all slitting there."
"We want them to really be able to say whatever they want to say without directing discussion toward us and without feeling like they shouldn't say something because we're sitting there," Goldman said.
Henry Conway, the team leader from Heidrick, said the absence of board members will "keep extraneous things from coming up."
The recommendation from the July 1 meeting was repeated in an e-mail message sent to board members last week.
This advice applied to Monday's private meetings and the public meetings being held today and tomorrow.
The search firm is using the meetings to get feedback on what characteristics people want in the next superintendent. The feedback will be given to the board, which has the responsibility of developing the characteristics and profile of the next superintendent.
Tonight's meeting will run from 6 to 8 p.m. Tomorrow's meeting will run from 10 a.m. to noon. Both public meetings will be held in the school board meeting room, 3600 Wake Forest Road, Raleigh.

Comments
Tickets
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 11:45 — HereWeGoMr. Hui,
Are they giving out tickets? If so, what time?
Thanks
There are no plans for the
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 13:55 — KeungHui (author)There are no plans for the ticket vouchers. They don't know how many people will attend either meeting.
Thanks
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 14:02 — HereWeGoThanks
So now we are beginning to
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 11:26 — tabdjbSo now we are beginning to understand why we are in need of good teachers and administrators. It is a slap in the face for all of those who have taken the time get an education and work in this field to be told none of them are smart enough to run a school district. We are not trying to see how much money we can save. We are trying to educate our kids and we don't need military tactics to do this: just some common sense, compasssion for the job and caring about what happens to all the kids in the system, not just a select few.
AngelaW, You are an idiot.
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 11:00 — JoeTarheelAngelaW,
You are an idiot. You and Tedesco should hang out. The two combined "might" and I use the term loosely, equal a 1/4 brain. Of course, with Tedesco's good looks and 'creepy factor', you guys should be able to 'kill it' at the bars.....
Let's at least try to be
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 11:23 — KeungHui (author)Let's at least try to be civil with other posters. You can disagree without calling someone an idiot. Also, you may want to see what may be causing you to double post.
Can I ask
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 15:20 — Dove314If idiot is out of bounds, there are others here who frequently make no attempt to be civil that should also be called on their use of insults. Please apply this standard to all posters equally.
This is the problem. I
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 15:41 — KeungHui (author)This is the problem. I really don't want to spend all my time telling people to behave. I also don't want to go around barring people from commenting. I'm relying on you guys to try to keep things civil.
Can we all just agree to
Wed, 07/14/2010 - 04:36 — jeffrey1Can we all just agree to ignore Joe Tarheel?
Who?
Wed, 07/14/2010 - 07:05 — woodstockWho?
Perhaps AngelaW is just
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 13:07 — carson79Perhaps AngelaW is just remembering the abusive and profane posts she made in the past towards some of us and staying quiet because she doesnt want to call the kettle black.....
Double-Posting
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 11:57 — Bob_SconceHey Keung --
Can't speak for this one poster, but I've had a few double-posts go through without doing anything that could cause it. I think it's a bug in the software. If you happen to want to mention the bug to the N&O's tech support staff, could you mention the problem with the "see new comments" link scrolling down all the way to the text input field at the bottom?
[And, if you could thank them for doing a bang-up job, that'd be great, too!]
I'm pretty sure
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 11:25 — g88ky07it's because he's a dumba$$!
AngelaW, You are an idiot.
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 11:00 — JoeTarheelAngelaW,
You are an idiot. You and Tedesco should hang out. The two combined "might" and I use the term loosely, equal a 1/4 brain. Of course, with Tedesco's good looks and 'creepy factor', you guys should be able to 'kill it' at the bars.....
Do you really think all your
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 11:04 — danofncDo you really think all your posts are so good that they need to be posted twice?
backgrounds
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 10:47 — louiselee44Guilford County's super has been there about a year, I think. His background is mostly in the legal field. Too early to give a thumbs up or down, or to evaluate his "agenda", but he's a lot better than the previous guy so far, from what I understand.
I keep hearing about one positive that's already been noted - he truly listens to people, and makes it clear that he will give them as much time as they need. He seems to have a knack for turning down the heat when people come in loaded with anger - calming folks down so that more reasonable conversation can take place.
This is neither here nor there - just thought I'd mention it...
P.S. - I attended a search firm session yesterday for members of the Superintendent's Parent Advisory Council. I'm glad I went, and hope that many others will voice their opinions.
But he has experience
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 12:04 — Tony_LucasBut he has experience working in a school system. His Bio page lists being General Counsel for CMS in 2001, in 2006 he became Chief Operating Officer and later became deputy superintendent. Also, his wife is a school psychologist. Green has an education background.
So....
Wed, 07/14/2010 - 10:53 — Bob_SconceNote that under the district's previous criteria, he couldn't have even been considered. And that was the point -- the board wanted a broader set of candidates.
It appears that he could
Wed, 07/14/2010 - 12:23 — Tony_LucasIt appears that he could have become superintendent under the previous conditions. Which criteria do you believe he would have failed to meet?
The degree
Wed, 07/14/2010 - 12:54 — Bob_SconceAlthough a JD is technically a "Juris Doctor," it's not generally considered to be at the doctorate level. And wasn't the requirement that the degree be in education? Don't remember that part off-hand.
I understand the debate
Wed, 07/14/2010 - 14:08 — Tony_LucasI understand the debate about the JD, but it is considered to be a professional doctorate in the United States. And there was no requirement about what the degree was to be in. The old policy is here www.wral.com/asset/news/education/2010/06/15/7784716/super.pdf
Uh... No...
Wed, 07/14/2010 - 14:25 — Bob_SconceIn general, a dissertation is necessary to have a doctorate -- they're looking for Ph.D.'s or Ed.D.'s. Lawyers cannot call themselves Doctor so-in-so unless they actually have a doctorate.
A school lawyer, 18 months
Wed, 07/14/2010 - 04:33 — jeffrey1A school lawyer, 18 months as a COO, and 4 months as a deputy superintendent qualifies as an education background??? You don't set the bar very high, do you?
It's higher than the board
Wed, 07/14/2010 - 12:26 — Tony_LucasIt's higher than the board majority's bar. I was just pointing out that he has education experience, whereas the new WCPSS superintendent doesn't have to have any experience in education.
The search firm needs to
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 10:16 — blackdogThe search firm needs to witness first hand, the contentions surrounding the new board majority. Then again, it might just be a dog and pony show...
posting again--real examples of "non-educators"
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 10:00 — AngelaWCounty might consider someone
other than a public school lifer
to become the next superintendent of
the state’s largest school district has
given the education establishment the
vapors.
School board member Debra
Goldman has said the district should
look at outside candidates to succeed
Del Burns. Way outside — including
successful business leaders and retired
military officers. The board’s fivemember
conservative majority also
voted to end a policy requiring the
superintendent to have at least three
years’ experience over the past decade
in public education.
Local mainstream editorial
boards have fretted that an outsider
would lack “valuable” experience, because,
after all, the school “workforce
is motivated not by earning potential
or stock options but by trying to educate
young people.”
But by following the rote formula
of hiring public education veterans
to oversee Wake County schools, the
district hasn’t been educating young
people very well. So why not try
something else?
In recent decades, it’s hard to
find an underperforming urban school
district that has turned around unless
it brought in a nontraditional leader.
Innovators whose careers were made
outside the classroom or the district
office — and whose approaches were
not stifled by the platitudes of pedagogy
— have written a series of success
stories.
Some high-profile reforms were
supervised by:
• Joel Klein, New York City Public
Schools chancellor: federal antitrust
prosecutor.
• Roy Romer, head of the Los
Angeles Unified School District, 2001-
06: three-term governor of Colorado,
state treasurer, state lawmaker, and
owner of John Deere equipment
stores.
• Michael Bennet, former superintendent
of Denver Public Schools
(and now a Colorado U.S. senator):
investment banker and chief of staff
for the city’s mayor.
• Tom Boasberg, Bennet’s successor
in Denver: global mergers-andacquisitions
specialist, attorney with
the Federal Communications Commission,
and chief financial officer at
Denver Public Schools.
• Michelle Rhee, chancellor
of public schools in the District of
Columbia: three-year veteran of the
Teach for America program, which
brings teachers who don’t have traditional
education degrees to innercity
schools, and founder of the New
Teacher Project, a nonprofit operating
in 20 states that recruits teachers for
low-income schools.
• Arne Duncan, U.S. education
secretary and former CEO of Chicago’s
public schools: professional
basketball player in Australia and
operator of a Chicago charter school.
They’re all Democrats, by the
way.
These school chiefs may have
followed unusual career paths. But
they used their passion for education
— along with their talents — to blow
past bureaucracies and unions and
put students and parents first.
And make no mistake: The longer
Wake County and North Carolina
decision makers refuse to look outside
the school establishment for leadership,
the more kids’ education will
suffer. CJ
Don't worry, Tedesco is
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 09:57 — JoeTarheelDon't worry,
Tedesco is probably working on his 'diversity dating', just to make sure he can continue to say "I dated a black girl once, so that makes me not a dumba$$....."
now I know
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 10:01 — loriacNow I know to skip over any of your posts - this is just offensive.
Don't worry, Tedesco is
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 09:57 — JoeTarheelDon't worry,
Tedesco is probably working on his 'diversity dating', just to make sure he can continue to say "I dated a black girl once, so that makes me not a dumba$$....."
keep extraneous things from coming up."
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 09:30 — hmoncelleHarry_Moncelle
It is my hope that experience in public schools and time served as a classroom teacher will not fall into the "extraneous things" category of characteristics people want in the next superintendent. I worry about selecting leaders from the private business and military sector as the educational leader of WCPSS. The citizens of Wake County, the children of Wake County and the Professional Educators of Wake county do not deserve an "arm chair" amateur educator to meet the many challenges we face on a day to day basis.
Well...
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 09:53 — Bob_SconceIt seems to me that extraneous things would be, among other things, the assignment plan, whether the board should have chosen H&S, and complaints about specific board members. The point should be to have feedback focused on the characteristics of the new superintendent, and your view that he/she should have served as a classroom teacher is certainly in that category.
I do note that non-educators are serving as superintendants all over the country. And, much like lifelong educators, they are having varying degrees of success.
Given WCPSS priorities to
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 09:34 — red_balloonGiven WCPSS priorities to date, weightage should be given to bus driving experience.
ODDS
Tue, 07/13/2010 - 09:21 — jgegbgmgI know this is eating into Tedesco's heart. He will be in tears knowing that he has been asked not to attend. Maybe he should drive by and hide around the corner just in case he gets a shot at being in front of some cameras. Or better yet, he should crash the meeting.