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Anthony Tata grilled on diversity and political commentary role

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The majority of new Wake County Superintendent Anthony Tata's questions at a Friday news conference focused on his view of school diversity and his time as a political pundit.

As noted in today's article, Tata faced some pretty pointed questions as he asserted he's his own man. He also praised neighborhood schools and questioned how well low-income students were helped by Wake's diversity policy.

Initially, Tata said he's still getting more information on the role of diversity in Wake's schools. But that didn't stop him from getting multiple questions to get him to flesh out his views.

“The school system’s primary objective is to increase student achievement and produce students who can compete internationally on the world stage,” Tata said three times when asked if it’s the school system’s responsibility to facilitate diversity.

Going into more detail, he questioned whether kids who've been bused for diversity in Wake have seen as much academic growth as those who have not.

“I’m not avoiding the answer,” Tata said. “What I’m telling you is we have to look at what’s best for these students and if what we’re trying to do is create a diverse environment and we’re not concerned about their student achievement, that’s not something I’m interested in.”

Tata was asked if he felt constrained to speak out based on the disciplinary action the board majority had taken against Del Burns for his public comments.

Tata said he had made it clear to the school board that he wouldn’t be afraid to speak out on school issues.

“I’m my own man and I’m not going to toe anyone’s line except the one that increases student achievement...” Tata said. “Anybody who thinks I’m in their pocket has got another thought coming."

Tata said that neighborhood schools “are working” in Washington D.C., where he’s been the school district’s chief operating officer for the past 19 months.  

“It’s possible to have good strong neighborhood schools when you have good resourcing,” he said.

Tata added that challenged schools can succced if they have good principals and good teachers.

Much of the remaining news conference focused on his time as a commentator on Fox News and as a blogger on conservative websites.

Tata was questioned about the message it sent for him to criticize President Obama, the commander-in-chief. He was also asked what message it sent to the students about going to the Ivy League and being intellectual after having called Obama an “aloof Ivy League intellectual."

The questions bristled Tata at one point, with him accusing the media of wanting to take away his free speech rights. Tata said he didn’t want to focus on the past as he defended his rights to make those comments.

“This is America and people have free speech,” Tata said. “People ought to be able to say what’s on their mind.”

But Tata also appeared to indicate that he would stop being a political pundit when he starts in Wake on Jan. 31.

“I’m going to be superintendent of Wake County schools 24/7, 365 days a year,” Tata repeatedly responded when asked if he was going to stop being a political commentator.

Some skeptics wondered whether Tata was leaving an out for himself by not simply answering yes or no to that question.

One other point where Tata seemed to get the most peeved was when he was questioned about allegations of mismanagement in the agency he used to lead that had a $4.5 billion budget to develop ways to help protect soldiers from improvised explosive devices. Tata said you should ask the soldiers out in the field, including those whose lives have been saved by the group's work.

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Brockton High School Teachers Turn Things Around

A group of teachers, who became known as the "restructuring committee," sought to overhaul the school curriculum by adding reading and writing components to every single class.

The New York Times reports within a decade, the school has made incredible strides toward improving students' performance. According to The Times, Brockton is now in the top 10 percent of high performing schools in the state -- and featured in a recent Harvard University study entitled "How High Schools Become Exemplary."

At a school packed with over 4,000 students, the majority of which live in poverty and qualify for free school lunches, many believed success wasn't possible 

 

 

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/29/brockton-high-school-teac_n_742187.html 

great story

I used to visit Brockton every year - my grandmother lived there.  It's a blue collar, working class town with many immigrants.  (my mother, way back when, went to school knowing only how to speak Lithuanian)  The high school my 'cousins' went to was HUGE, and I remember being jealous of all the course offerings.

I love this story, and that by using a can-do, no excuses attitude across the board, great strides were made.   I have a lot of faith that Mr . Tata will bring in this kind of leadership.

Great story!  The methods

Great story!  The methods used at that high school sound an awful lot like the posts from a certain teacher here on the blog.  Maybe s/he is on to something.  ;-p
 

I love these "can do"

I love these "can do" schools....and there is no reason why things like this cannot be implemented in places throughout Wake....seriously.  so sick of the naysayers.

 

on the "other" side however;

McKinley Elementary Parents Continuing Their Fight for Change  

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ben-austin/mckinley-elementary-paren_b_806513.html 

The unethical and possibly illegal tactics that the district and school staff members have been using are well documented by now. They have been using children as political pawns, telling them things like, "your mom is a big mouth and needs to shut up," or sending them home crying and saying things such as, "mom, I hate you for what you're doing at the school."

At the same time, school and district staff members have been telling outright lies to the parents themselves. Parents are being told that if their school is transformed under the Parent Trigger, all special education students will be kicked out, or even that just 80 percent of the kids altogether will be summarily removed altogether. One teacher, Mr. Tellez, summarized this deeply unethical "rescission" campaign perfectly when he told one mom, "Ms. Hernandez, you will regret having supported Celerity when your child is rejected by them." This same teacher, Mr. Tellez, was so brazenly confident in his unethical tactics that he wrote these same lies on the internet for all to see (although he has now attempted to cover up the evidence). 

Wonder who were all the people

at the WCTA in the cheap suits? And I wonder where the Lexus and Mercedes were in the parking lot. Isn't there a picture somewhere? But that did have a lot of elderly pensioners.

Tata wants more "resources" — that's "money" to us civilians

There was just one thing Tata said that failed to meet with the group’s approval. Tata was asked — by someone who’s not a member — about the WCTA’s opposition to previous school bond issues, including its role in defeating a major bond referendum a decade ago. Tata acknowledged that the school system is way behind on building new schools to keep up with the county’s “exploding growth.” Within 90 days, he said, he expects to have a handle on how many more schools are needed and how much they’ll cost.

“And it’s a strategic vision thing, because you can’t continue to put a band-aid on it,” Tata continued. “You gotta make sure you get those dollars from somewhere.”

Dollars? All of a sudden every WCTA member seemed to be looking in his or her lap to see if their napkins were straight. The only sound in the room was the rustling of many fannies. 

http://www.indyweek.com/citizen/archives/2011/01/11/tata-wants-more-resources-thats-money-to-us-civilians 

More typical sensationalism

More typical sensationalism from Bob Geary, does this guy have a journalistic bone in his body.  Half of the people at that meeting were not WCTA members.  Many in the crowd were board critics.  And somehow Bob could look around the room at that moment and tell which ones were WCTA members?

the point of the question

Regardless of who attended the recent meeting, I'm interested to see how WCTA members WILL respond when the next bond is proposed.  That's the real question.  WCTA is pleased with the BOE majority, and they're pleased with the superintendent.  Will they be pleased to support a hefty bond and a tax increase to support the proposals of those they're otherwise pleased with?  That would be really good news for the whole community!
 

Well...

They may not respond well, but they will be marginalized if they speak out against a bond supported by the people they support.  And, my impression is that they aren't as relevant as they were 12 years ago.  In the meantime, the suburbs have swelled, largely with more moderate conservatives who are far more sympathetic to public schools.  

That's a really good

That's a really good insight.  I think if you asked most people (republicans included) who they were, you'd get a lot of shrugs.  And enough has happened in the last 12 years that I don't think they'd have the same impact they did before. 

12 yrs ago !

The last bond was 2005 ish, a short 5 years ago and barely got by.  The economy was good then.  Today the economy spotty at best. For the masses unemployment is still high and property values are down.  The Teaparty is in full swing and the sentiment is no taxes, we pay enough already - go re-prioritize.  I don't see a bond issue as a slam dunk by any imagination. 

It was 1996.  The bond

It was 1996.  The bond barely got by, not because of some massive campaign by WCTA, but because so many people were turned off by MYR schools.  I'm not sure I understand what WCTA's agenda is, and I certainly don't support an "any tax is a bad tax" approach, if that is what they believe in.  After going to a few meetings, my view is that they are a bunch of nice people who have an anti-tax set of beliefs.  Most of the members are older and the organization is shrinking.  I think right now GWIS and their affiliates have a bigger influence in Wake County and could overcome WCTA opposition -- if they chose to support the bond and do so.

Do you mean 2006?  I'm

Do you mean 2006?  I'm thinking of the bond that failed in 1999.  We had only been here about a year so I didn't understand what was going on at the time, but many people blame WCTA for that bond not passing. 

My bad, meant 2006.  Not to

My bad, meant 2006.  Not to diminish WCTA in any way, but their impact on that bond referendum was miniscule compared to the rage going on across the county because of the MYR proposal.

Definitely agree with you on

Definitely agree with you on that.

No slam dunk

probably won't even be close.

I thought we were talking

I thought we were talking about the WCTA and their involvement.  I don't remember them being as outspoken or as big of a force as they were in 1999. 

ETA:  I was by no means implying that the next bond issue will be a 'slam dunk'.  Just that I don't think the WCTA will play as big of a role in it all. 

My neighbors are older now,

My neighbors are older now, don't have kids in school and see the BOE shenanigans as an excuse to not support any bond.   I am guessing this board will do the bond their usual  hard way  issuing a LLB (limited liability bond) that does not require a referendum at a 0.3% premium. .

Your neighbors are idiots,

Your neighbors are idiots, everyone benefits from an educated populace. That is a pretty easy argument to make so you must not be very convincing... kind of like on these forums.
 

I'll let Ron do the sales

I'll let Ron do the sales job .

Likewise, it will be

Likewise, it will be interesting to see whether the people who are displeased with the board majority (which includes you) will support a new bond when we need it.

bonds

I have happily voted for every school bond that's ever been put forth and always wished they were bigger.  I would also like to pay higher taxes for schools.  If the BOE screws up the city core of Raleigh, I wonder if folks who live in Raleigh will be as happy to fund construction for neighborhood schools in high growth areas?

You Don't Seriously Think

we'll oppose it, do you? There may be a few token loudmouths but the next bond will receive overwhelming, crushing  support from our side.  It is the fellow travellers YOUR side whose wagon you've hitched yourself to that have opposed them historically and WILL do so in the future.   You can't even get your Board members or your county commissioners to ask for more money (which in the past has been a routine duty) but you think they'll mobilize their foot soldiers for a bond issue?  That's delusional.

The WCTA members were all

The WCTA members were all the millionnaires wearing top hats & monocles, lighting their cigars with $100 bills.  It was pretty easy to tell them apart from the riff raff.

ROFL!!

ROFL!!

not by looking....by the

not by looking....by the sound of rustling fannies, apparently....

He speaks fluent buttock?

"not by looking....by the sound of rustling fannies, apparently...."

He speaks fluent buttock?

Of course...

It's his native tongue.

beat me to it!

beat me to it!

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“And it’s a strategic vision thing, because you can’t continue to put a band-aid on it,” Tata continued. “You gotta make sure you get those dollars from somewhere.”

Perhaps this is the reason Tata was asked to speak at the WCTA meeting?

Dollars? All of a sudden

Dollars? All of a sudden every WCTA member seemed to be looking in his or her lap to see if their napkins were straight. The only sound in the room was the rustling of many fannies.

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Gotta love how Bob Geary just makes up stuff.  The sad thing is that his followers just lap it up as if it is truth and not editorializing.

because of course, it's

because of course, it's "unbiased" media, after all

As a mix of possible

As a mix of possible campaigns roar to life for 2011, its not hard to gauge the mood of Wake County. Noise by busing advocates (who don't live here) have spawned needless investigations and denigrated North Carolina's good name. Inequity in public service may add the fuel necessary for a change in direction for local government .

http://venitapeyton.com/ 

Maryland tops Education

Maryland tops Education Week's rankings; Virginia is fourth
 

By Nick Anderson
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, January 11, 2011; 1:35 AM

 

For the third straight year, Maryland's public education system is ranked the nation's best overall in an assessment of state policies and student performance to be published Tuesday.

Maryland received a B-plus from the news outlet Education Week, a grade that took into account student achievement, school finance and various education policies. New York and Massachusetts, with B grades, were ranked second and third, respectively. Virginia, with a B-minus, placed fourth.

The District of Columbia ranked near the bottom with a grade of D-plus. The federal capital was included in the analysis even though the District is difficult to compare because it is not a state. The District ranked just ahead of last-place Nebraska.

Experts debate the merits of rankings of state school systems. Depending on the criteria for judging them, one state or another can rise to the top. Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley (D) often boasted about the state's top Education Week ranking last year in his reelection campaign.

"Our goal is create great educational opportunities for every child in every neighborhood in Maryland," State Superintendent of Schools Nancy S. Grasmick said in a statement. "Recognition of our state's track record of success is gratifying to all of us who work to strengthen our schools. . . . However, we have no intention of raising a victory flag as yet."

In an analysis of student performance trends - including increases in test scores over time and how much states close achievement gaps - Education Week ranked Massachusetts the best in the country, followed by New Jersey and Maryland in that order. Virginia ranked 14th and the District 49th, ahead of West Virginia and last-place Mississippi.  

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/10/AR2011011005837_pf.html 

Hopefully Tata does better here

The District of Columbia ranked near the bottom with a grade of D-plus. The federal capital was included in the analysis even though the District is difficult to compare because it is not a state. The District ranked just ahead of last-place Nebraska.

  Total per-pupil revenues

 

Total per-pupil revenues for public schools in fiscal year 2010
 
1. Baltimore city $16,619
2. Montgomery $16,310
3. Worcester $16,284
12.Charles $13,056
14. Calvert $12,894
22. Talbot $12,288
23. Cecil $12,255
24. St. Mary's $12,206
 
Source: Maryland Department of Legislative Services report

Per student expenditures are

Per student expenditures are enormously misleading; it does not mean that is what each students gets in terms of value from the system... not even close.

There is an amazing

There is an amazing correlation though between how much one invests and how much one gets back ... typically, communities that invest more like MD are on top in these ratings and states like MS who invest little are at the bottom.   Actually, Wake probably does quite well for being a bottom feeder.  Again, Thank God for Mississippi.

But let's not discount Kansas City

For those that don't know, the "Kansa City Experiment" is a classic case where money does not equal increased performance in minority schools.

Glad you brought that up ...

Glad you brought that up ... wow .. we were about to be innovative and suggest more investment and you were able to find a school system that failed ... thanks for pulling us back from the edge from actually having the courage to move forward, change things and invest in our future ... keep us updated on failures so we can avoid changing ...you said you use to work for the Army didn't you?

But is the change another failed experiment?

Economic diversity busing has only spread the problem , not corrected it. The results do not show a coorelation with increased performance. IMHO, parents/caregivers are the key. Along with local churches and civic groups wanting to build up their community. That is impossible when busing around kids is the priority.

BTW- I was in the Air Force, they separated from the Army over 64 years ago.

Since you like to quote money

Please adjust these numbers with cost of living vs. North Carolina.  Without that, it is not a true comparison.

Great Straight Man

 

Raleigh.NC to Townson, MD is a 21% increase.  MD's investment in kids is nearly 100% over Wake.
 
...http://www.bankrate.com/calculators/savings/moving-cost-of-living-calculator.aspx

Not complete picture though User

User, I assume you meant Towson vs. Townson,MD since I can only find that on the map

 

*Demographic**                                    Raleigh,NC          Towson, MD

Median Household Income (2000)           $46,612               $53,775

Families living below poverty line             7.1%                   2.5%

Average Home Price (2010)                     $173,600              $287,600

Male Median Income (2000)                    $39,248                $49,554

Population (2000)                                       ~400K                  ~52K

% Minority Population                                  48%                    13%

 

Also note they have 3 public high schools and 5 elementary
schools. And a separate special education school for ED children.

And of course this is not a complete picture either, very hard to do a proper comparison.

 

 
 

the bankrate website in my

the bankrate website in my post lists 

Baltimore-Towson MD Metro

as the choice ... assumed that is like Raleigh / Wake

still, there is no amount of cost of living difference that can bridge how much top system spend compared to Wake ... and we know our investment is headed down ... we can live in denial but eventually we have to invest .. personally, I never seen so much resistance to change ... we find a school system that is suppose to be better ... we compare investment, classes, budget, etc. and there is something wrong with each one that returns us to remaining  a mediocre county in a state that is 47th in the nation ..

Maybe more than money though

Look at the poverty rate. There is probably a much bigger tax base per capita. Not to mention increased buy in to spending money (i.e. getting your money's worth). One thing makes me ponder though. Since that school district is devoid of federal Title IX funding, F&R food funding, and money does not transfer disproporionately to the poor students, does increased funds help the more affluent population. That would be a good study to do also. Also interesting is how they separated the ED students into their own school, wonder how well that works.

VOR, We have schools right

VOR, We have schools right here in Wake that are near each other ... one good and one bad ... and we don't even try to find out why ... we barely even try to improve the bad ones ....so, we really don't need to venture far or make any allowance using other places really since we have a lot to work with in our own backyard.... actually we need the public to want to improve and be better ... as I said, it all about assignments and getting my Johnny in the good school and making sure he stays there the maximum time allowed to minimize child care expense ...

OK User

You let it out of the bag again, you don't like parents and rich people. You know why there is a problem, but you are afraid to propose your real solution. Why? Because you know how everyone on both sides would react. Your true colors would shine. The best I heard was just make all public schools give a basic education, that's it. But at the same time you support magnet schools. Then, the real problem is parents that shouldn't of had kids at all. How do you propose a solution, based on your beliefs, and still keep the population here in place?

VOR ... it not really that

VOR ... it not really that hard ... ALL kids get at least a basic education ... a number of schools RIGHT at THIS MINUTE have less than half the kids passing their EOx so not even getting a basic education.  You seem to be ok with that since it does not affect you directly.   That is where we differ.  My radical solution is to find out what is wrong with schools like Barwell and fix it.   Are you afraid?  Too radical for you?   Once we have fixed the leaks in the boat we can increase the speed and do all kinds of tricks.  Today as long as your neighborhoods school is ok, you are satisfied.

"My radical solution is to..."

 
stop blogging and start doing....and before you spew your hatred back, I ALREADY AM DOING SOMETHING ABOUT BETTERING our schools. (post election-so save your snark)
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