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African American opposition to diversity policy

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Did lack of support for the diversity policy in the African American community help contribute to Tuesday's school board election results?

As noted in today's article by Thomas Goldsmith, a survey by Democratic polling firm Public Policy Polling found that 46 percent of African Americans opposed current policies on diversity and reassignment. That compares to 39 percent in support and 14 percent not sure.

Also in the early September survey, 43 percent of African Americans said that parental involvement was the most important factor in education. That was a higher ranking than in any of the other groups.

On that same question, 29 percent of African Americans said that neighborhood schools was the most important factor. That was also higher than for other groups.

Sixty-four percent of African Americans said that they would be more likely or it would be no difference to them if overturning the diversity policy caused property values to decrease.

The poll raises questions about where the black community stands on the diversity policy. While much of the black leadership backed the diversity policy, critics have argued that the support isn't universal among the parents.

PPP did the survey for the PAC that was formed by its owner, Dean Debnam. The results weren't publicly released until after the election.

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Has The Burden of the "Diversity Policy" Ever Been Equal?

I have often felt there's been a lack of coverage of what Black parents feel about these policies -- Kristin Collins recent article (1 or 2 weeks ago?) was one of the first I remember seeing.   Usually I saw quotes from Calla Wright with no context of knowing whether she actually represented a significant block.

 Forcing black children in ITB nodes to be bussed way out to Cary and Apex is not without its costs, as the post suggests.  This is a really thorny issue, but most people seem to agree that magnet schools are a good way to get some more balance in the system. 

What % of the voters of the

What % of the voters of the districts in play on Tuesday are black?
Seems a bit misleading, on many levels, to presume a correlation whatsoever.

Selective reporting didn't help any...

Why is this such a surprise? As I've mentioned before, I pointed out the N&O/WRAL poll results long ago (to School Board members and  County Commissioners) that showed 52% of "Blacks" and 52% of "Latinos" thought YR schools should either be optional or non-existent! And of course WRAL and the N&O knew all of this from the day their poll results came out in 2006!!! Why no media mention of it?????Why such an effort to make people think these folks were behind the plan all the way????

(P.S. - I know why) 

Yes, it really is

Yes, it really is interesting to see those poll results on MYR especially considering the press conference that Calla Wright held.  I remember watching it on TV and hearing Calla say that if black parents didn't say yes to YR schools, that those schools would be segregated.

I also agree with SDR that we need a REAL honest dialog about this issue.  One with egos and agendas put aside and without the media present.  Just real people trying to understand each other without all the hyperbole.

And that conversation needs

And that conversation needs to be with the real leaders of the African American community.  As the polls show, Calla Wright does not represent the majority of any community.

Absolutely.  This is an

Absolutely.  This is an opportunity the supposed "anti-diversity" candidates to reach out to the local leaders of the African American AND Latino communities and seek input into solutions OTHER than busing.  I fully anticipate they will.

That is just about right

You only need to speak with black parents to understand how they feel about integration. Often they will tell you that integration has been brutal on their kids. Black kids should not have to be bused to (hostile) white environments so that white kids can have diversity (nor vice-versa). Black kids suffer in those environments. The original premise of the idea rested on the fact that separate in this country was not equal. Where the whites kids and families were flowed all of the money and resources. Make it separate AND equal and I think black parents would be happy. As for property values and real estate, given blacks historical experience with whites' hostility, why would they want to live around whites? No, it is not that they are enamored with whites, they want access to the nice resources and areas that whites have.

Being nice?

I think its harsh and counterproductive to describe 'white' environments as 'hostile'. As I've said before our closest school has over 22 cultures represented. This is a culture of education and so lots of people who know that a good education is the first step to a successful life have been attracted to this. I don't think its the people that make these schools difficult for some children. I think it is a different set of expectations that are uncomfortable. In lots of cases, its like learning a whole new language. They are bombarded on all levels with messages that they need to change and conform in order to succeed in that environment. So, yes, in this sense I can see that as very hostile to little kids. But I don't think its the people. Its extremely difficult to feel a part of the classroom ethos when you and all the kids know that you come from 'outside' - by nature of the process of arriving and interacting with the school, you are labelled as different. For any of this to have every worked, kids would need strong, relentless, vocal advocates to personally attend to a successful integration on an individual level - you know, like a PARENT would? But its too hard, when these schools are 30 miles from home, for the parents to play that role. So, its set up for failure. The system didn't account for the human element of these little kids. It just continued to grind on, blind to the pain of the experience. The parents know - on both sides of the bus route. 

I think that the administration has been SOOO extremely arrogant and racist - yes, racist - to believe that some parents would do ANYTHING, simply anything and allow their children to be used as social engineering tools - their loved precious children - on the thin hope that things are so much better on the other side of the county. Parents from any background aren't that blind. If it were actually working, that might be one thing, but as we've said all along - our most vulnerable children have been the ones to pay the dearest for this failing system. 

So, if the position - and its not clear that it is - is one to blame it on the people at the school like teachers and parent volunteers not wanting to help or doing something less than what was possible, I think that's kind of lame. Its much more complex than that. And until we can look at the true nature of the problem and can talk about loving, livable solutions - we'll just continue  this useless food fight. 

We really need dialog, that's what we need. (And I don't mean blogging) 

Busing has not worked. Let's find what does.  

wow

"separate but equal" .  Sounds like what everyone said existed in the 50's as lynching were going on behind closed doors. 

You make it sound so easily when in reality it's extremely challenging on many fronts.  

Lynchings?! You want to

Lynchings?! You want to bring up lynchings?

Well, you know what a modern day lynching is? It is denying children the recources they need to graduate and leaving them destined to a life of limited opportunities. That is kind of school system that the status quo provided to low-income students and far too many minority students...and it is the kind of system that YOU support.

The system is hostile

The system is hostile because they don't provide access to rigorous courses based on academic achievement. They provide it based on race and income. The people getting the privilege are not hostile. But the environment is.

Why don't minority parents ask to see how many WCPSS are "algebra ready" but not in algebra? That will tell us just how hostile the system is. 

It is the system that is hostile, not the people in the system. But at some point after it is discovered how hostile the system is, if that is covered up and not fixed... I have a real problem with that. I can forgive the system being what it was. But it is a lot harder to deal with discovering how hostile the policies and lack of policies have made the system and covering that up so that things could go on as usual. 

I would agree

"Why don't minority parents ask to see how many WCPSS are "algebra ready" but not in algebra? That will tell us just how hostile the system is."

I would totally agree but expand that to say that all Wake County taxpayers should demand this information.  These kids are belong to all of us and we need to make some noise about how this decision is being made.

Definitely read the SAS report

Why don't minority parents ask to see how many WCPSS are "algebra
ready" but not in algebra? That will tell us just how hostile the
system is.

 

You should definitely read the SAS report.  Here's a relevant quote (emphasis mine):




Clearly students benefiting from Algebra I in middle school
were more likely to reach higher math achievement levels as measured by SAT
math.  Given the magnitude of the
differences in SAT math scores among those students who take middle school
Algebra I and those who do not, another important question is, “what percentage
of Algebra ready students are enrolling in middle school?”  Figure 7 shows the proportions for the state
and for a sampling of NC LEAs of Algebra- ready students who are enrolling in
middle grades as opposed to the Algebra ready students who are not
enrolling.  Students were determined to
be Algebra ready in 8th grade if they tested in 7th grade
math in 2007, tested in some subject in 2008 and had a probability of testing
at proficient of 70% or better.  Notice
that although WCPSS enrolls about half of the students academically prepared
for Algebra I in middle school, Chapel Hill/Carrboro, Charlotte Mecklenberg,
Guilford County and Durham County are enrolling greater percentages of Algebra
I ready students in middle school.

 

Again, Wake enters fewer

Again, Wake enters fewer students who end up with higher passing scores, while the other systems enter a lot of kids many who don't pass ... personally, I don't have a problem with throwing as many kids as we can in the class and let the material sort them out ... who knows, some of the ones with less ability might make it on sheer effort ... also, taking the course twice can reinforce the material .... but we should not then hear any complaints when the EOC Algebra % pass gravitates to the same level of these other schools once we toss all the other kids in the pot ...

User--we're not talking

User--we're not talking about putting kids in 8th grade Algebra who aren't ready for it.  We're talking about the fact that fewer minority children who qualify are being placed in advanced 6th grade math (this is where the problem begins).  How many kids with 'less ability' are white and are in the advanced math track and how many minority kids who have 'more ability' are left behind?

That is a question that can

That is a question that can be answered. They can get those numbers for you. Why don't you ask for those numbers?

Of course we shouldn't and

Of course we shouldn't and (me personally) won't complain.  I could care less about appearances like those in charge before.  Challenge these kids.  How else will you find out what their limitations are?  Chucky thinks he can tell by the color of their skin and/or the content of their pocket book.  I don't have the same level of confidence in his abilities.  Believe it or not, some people actually learn from failure. 

One caveat, don't put any kid in one of these classes if they don't want to be there.  This is an opportunity, not a right.

I do not think it is Chuck

I do not think it is Chuck ... I think it is unintentional racist teachers and counselors who determine student placement based on their bias …. If there are fewer minority students than one would expect, it is due to the “bias” in the “system” that is directing kids to certain paths …

The bias comes from the evaluation system

From my understanding, the WCPSS evaluation system produces lower expected growth for ED students. These are the growth expectations that teachers see. When an ED student has lower growth than a NED student, it does not raise a red flag because it is the expected result. When an ED student does do better, it is discounted because that is NOT the expected result. It all becomes a self-fullfiling prophecy (regardless of race). If the expected growth for ED students was the same as for NED and the ED student does not meet that growth, a red flag is raised because the result is different than expected and when an ED student scores as well as NED it is not discounted because that is what is expected.

This is what I said numerous times. Where I come from ED students are not labeled "at-risk", the expectations are the same and ED students are in honors courses because that is what is EXPECTED. Some of the smartest people I've known started out poor in life and went on to become NED. Why? Because they didn't have elitists labeling them as less capable just because they were poor.

Someone INTENTIONALLY factored a lower growth expectation for certain segments into the WCPSS evaluation model. Prehaps you should direct some comments their way instead of at teachers.

We should really hear from a

We should really hear from a 6th/7th grade teacher/counselor ... I don't think the selection is computer driven ... for my daughter who moved from homeschooling and had Algebra already was put in a regular class in MS until my wife complained ... it was all about which class had open seats ... later it seemed to be based on teacher recommendations ... and they all liked my daughter because she was polite, did her homework and my wife volunteered at the school so she got what ever my wife asked for ... I think there is a lot of bias built into the system that funnels kids of different races and wealth different ways based on perception ... I am guessing a computer program only helps validate what teachers have already determined they want to happen ... So, why not make Algebra a regular class in 8th grade for everyone ... those don't pass can take again in 9th ... it's an essential class ...

Why isn't it Holdzkom? he is

Why isn't it Holdzkom? he is the one who tried to say EVAAS is not needed, and made people use his Effectiveness Index instead. Teachers and counselors don't have access to any good information for making decisions, thanks to Holdzkom. Dulaney has nothing to do with this issue. And then Holdzkom hid the SAS report. I bet Dulaney had never seen it.

That would be a good question... who know about that report before a few days ago? 

Let me be more fair. Del,

Let me be more fair.

Del, Chucky and Holdzkom should resign.  Others should likely consider resigning if they can't get with the new program.

Responsibility starts at the

Responsibility starts at the top.  The entire school system's philosophy is about controlling who goes where and gets access to what.  All in the name of appearances.  He set the tone for this to occur.

It's Chucky's system.  He

It's Chucky's system.  He is it to blame for letting it happen in the first place and then letting it continue and then hiding that it occurs.

don't forget that (and his wife works there too)

Public face of reassignment values diversity

With job, he puts beliefs into action

. Keung Hui, Staff Writer
Want to be hated by parents and taxpayers? Then the Wake County school system has the job for you.

You get to oversee the student reassignment plan. You have to figure out how to convert schools to a year-round calendar. And you determine how many new schools have to be built in a bond issue that will raise property taxes.

It's all in a day's work for Chuck Dulaney, who recently accepted the newly created position of assistant superintendent for growth and planning.

"There aren't good schools and bad schools in Wake County like people think of in other places," Dulaney says. "That's because we have a commitment to have a district full of healthy schools that are interrelated and not isolated from each other."

It's a tough job, but keeping Wake's schools healthy is in harmony with Dulaney's lifelong goal of promoting social diversity.

"They [Dulaney and his wife, Donna Olsen] are very socially conscious," says Ellen MacMillan, past president of the Unitarian Universalist Fellowship of Raleigh, where Dulaney is a member and a past president of the congregation. "They both feel a very strong obligation to help others and live what they believe."

For Dulaney, 58, his beliefs stem from growing up in the 1950s in the Southern California town of Colton. Despite the town being half white and half Hispanic, he didn't go to school with Hispanic students until high school. To this day, Dulaney regrets not having learned Spanish.

Dulaney said his experiences in Colton convinced him that when he became a father, he'd be sure to live in a diverse community.

It helped lead him to take a job teaching kindergarten in Kansas City, Mo., which was undergoing integration in the 1970s. While there, he met and married his wife, a fellow teacher. But after seeing white flight to the suburbs dramatically impact the schools, they moved to Charlotte in 1981.

"Charlotte was known for its diverse schools," Dulaney recalls. "We wanted to raise our family there."

But over time, Dulaney and his wife became disillusioned with the Charlotte-Mecklenburg school system. Dulaney said it became clear to them that Charlotte was starting to move away from maintaining diversity, a trend that accelerated after a 1999 federal court ruling ended racial busing.

Seeing the trend taking shape, they relocated to Wake County in 1993.

"He really walks the walk and talks the talks," says Karen Banks, who was Dulaney's boss for 12 years as Wake's assistant superintendent for evaluation and research.

By then, Dulaney's beliefs had carried over to his children. Banks recalls Dulaney's son, Ben, telling of how they detected code words from a real-estate agent trying to steer them to a white neighborhood.

"Ben knew we wouldn't be interested in living in an area that had a low percentage of minorities," says Olsen, a former Wake principal who now works in the district's staff development office.

Except for a brief stint as a principal, most of Dulaney's time in Wake has been spent as a researcher.

Banks, who retired last year, says Dulaney was the consummate team player.

When things heat up

Banks recalled a time in the mid-1990s when they ran into problems scoring tests because the computers were overheating in a trailer with a malfunctioning air conditioning system. Banks and Dulaney went to Home Depot to purchase sprinklers which they used to hose down the trailer to cool it off.

Banks says Dulaney's skills as a communicator have served him well, especially in his role of explaining student test results to schools and the public.

"There are people in my field who are quite brilliant but who can't necessarily communicate with people who aren't as technically oriented," Banks says. "Chuck is the opposite. He can make things sound simple even when they're complicated."

Those communication skills caught the attention of Don Haydon, associate superintendent for auxiliary services, who recruited Dulaney last fall for the new job of overseeing growth and planning. He reports to the superintendent, and receives an annual salary of $105,944. Technically, he doesn't set policy -- that's the school board's job -- but he has considerable influence as someone who frames the key planning issues to present to the board and the public.

"It's reassuring to the board and the staff to have someone there looking at all the data and making sure the right hand knows what the left hand is doing," says Patti Head, chairwoman of the school board.

This is one of the most critical times in the district's history.

Wake is experiencing record growth, with 42,000 students expected by 2010. To fill new schools and ease crowding, administrators want to reassign 10,258 students to different schools this fall.

Critics have long complained that the district doesn't do enough long-range planning to minimize reassignment, or at least give parents more warning. Dave Duncan, president of Assignment By Choice, a group critical of Wake's assignment policies, says it's a good sign that the district has created the new position. But he says the test will be what Dulaney does with the job.

Dulaney says the district's long-range planning efforts are hampered by not getting enough money for school construction.

But it may be possible, he says, to give parents earlier notice about reassignment. For instance, he says, the district should be able next year to identify the neighborhoods likely to be assigned to the new Heritage High School in Wake Forest, scheduled to open in 2009.

Dulaney isn't backing off the district's goal of trying to limit the number of students at each school who are receiving federally subsidized lunches. It's based on research showing that all students suffer when a school has too many low-income children.

"Our district was very smart early on to recognize, before there were legal challenges, that it's not an issue of mixing students by race but by family income," Dulaney says.

Dulaney acknowledges that the district's record growth and the county's concentrations of high poverty and low poverty are complicating diversity efforts. One remedy, he says, would be for municipalities to require more mixed-used development.

"We have areas of the county where much of the population is highly affluent, and we have areas where many are living in impoverished neighborhoods," Dulaney says. "How can we address that?"

It's a job that's going to push Dulaney into the public eye and keep him away from home. It's something his wife has accepted.

"It's important to be able to explain to people why we as a community need to do something for the greater good," Olsen says.

I read the report. I am kind

I read the report. I am kind of in shock. I want a list of the kids' names who were Algebra Ready, yet not in algebra--like on a wall, like the Vietnam memorial.

How many kids right now in each middle school should be in 8th grade algebra but are not?

How many 7th graders should be in Pre-Algebra but are not, by school. I don't care about their races, but I can see from this it is racially biased. You can get this list from EVAAS right now. Each principal should use EVAAS and see how many Algebra-Ready 8th graders are not in Algebra, and how many Algebra-Ready 7th graders are not in Pre-Algebra.

This isn't theorhetical. (sorry. I can't spell.) This is kids now. Kids with names. 

Why don't the parents know

Why don't the parents of these kids know this is a possiblity from late elementary/early middle school?  Why not give parents this info.  Do the administrators not think parents would "know" what to do with the information. 

This is shameful.

Parents want what is best

Parents want what is best for their children. That, of course, is true regardless of one's ethnic persuasion.

WTVD...

had an interview with two "lower income" families on the Monday evening news, who both said they were NOT in favor of the diversity or busing policy of the schools.  One put her child in a charter school near her house, and the other lamented on how hard it was for her child and family having him bussed so far away.  He came home very late, had homework, it made family time very difficult.  The prior WCPSS board did not make decisions with children and families in mind, I'm really not sure what they based their decisions on. 

"The prior WCPSS board did

"The prior WCPSS board did not make decisions with children and families in mind, I'm really not sure what they based their decisions on. "

According to Ann Denlinger of the WakeEd Partnership and the Harvey Schmitt, President of the Greater Raleigh Chamber of Commerce, which apparently has significant influence on the current school board members, decisions were based on making sure the schools had an appearance of being successful. That  is why overall school performance was touted rather than the performance of student subgroups. Many student subgroups, such as economicaly disadvantaged, black, and Hispanics, performed far below acceptable levels. Overall numbers hide this fact.

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