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Chapel Hill-Carrboro farm tour may put off chicken slaughter

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Organizers of Saturday's Urban Farm Tour may cancel a public chicken slaughter after a complaint to Carrboro Town Hall.

 

The annual tour shows examples of small-scale sustainable
agriculture at about a dozen sites in Chapel Hill and Carrboro. Planned workshops included honey harvesting, lasagna bed preparation and a slaughter of chickens for a community “stone soup” at the end of the event. 

But news that chickens would be killed at this year’s event upset resident Gina Burns. She wrote to town officials saying the chicken killing was inappropriate for a private lot and could lead to slaughter of other animals kept for food.  

The e-mail touched off a flurry of messages between the town’s
elected officials, police chief and town attorney. Calls to Town Hall were referred to Police Chief Carolyn Hutchison, who said neither the town nor the health department had authority to
act on the killing of chickens on private property.

‘It certainly seems that it is entirely legal from a local and
state perspective,” she said Thursday.

But Sammy Slade of Carrboro Greenspace, the group
organizing the tour, said the dust-up shows the group may need to do more education before inviting the public to watch chickens being slaughtered, even if that is part of what it takes to produce locally food.

“I have to run it by the collective,” said Slade, who is running
for Carrboro alderman. “It may make sense to put it off for another year without the trauma that might come about by killing a chicken before we know how to process the idea.”

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"Organic farmers, who are not permitted to use powerful synthetic fungicides like chlorothalonil, have very few weapons against this aggressive pathogen."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/nyregion/18tomatoes.html?_r=1&hp

This sounds like a bad disease. Looks like the organic farmers are out of luck!

Instead, the superiority of local.

From the article:

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So, sounds like if folks avoided shopping at big-box stores and instead bought regionally-grown varieties from their local nursery, we might have avoided the blight, or at least it's quick spread.

I'd rather eat a local heirloom any day of the week.

Yeah

Right.   It is always about the evil big box stores around here, and nothing about people feeling good about growing food and having no clue what they are doing.

 

Classic Carrboro.

Would I .......Would I?

"Would you hold a pork barbecue in a Jewish or Islamic neighborhood?" You damn right I would. I don't eat goat and the people groups you mention have no problem slitting a goats throat in their back yard. This is America honey! I catch and eat fish and I also hunt and eat deer, duck, goose and squirrel. My 4 year year old daughter loves fresh venison and even asked her uncle for a big buck for her 4th birthday. It's a chicken people. Pull off it's head and start pluckin'. The body may flap around for a while but it feels no pain once you pull the head off. And to Gina "it may lead to slaughter of other animals kept for food." If the "other animals" are "kept" for food....how do you eat them if you don't kill them? Go talk to some plants...I hear they have feelings too!

Carroboro is amusing

Carrboro is populated with people who pretend to want to save the planet, as long as they don't have to know what it really takes to put food on their plates, electricity in their homes, and iPhones in their hands.

How's that hope and change workin' out for ya?

LOL

A wise decision

Hundreds of people came out today. Families with children of all ages toured local gardens, and learned about raising bees and livestock. I think it was wise to reconsider the slaughter in this particular context. Children under the age of 9, who have not been raised on a farm do not need to see a chicken slaughtered. Anyone who has any expertise in environmental education will attest to this.
Compromising with people who disagree with you does not mean that you are not a "real" farmer. It only means that you are a considerate person.

uhh

"Compromising with people who disagree with you does not mean that you are not a "real" farmer. It only means that you are a considerate person. "

 

Considerate person aka afraid of the PETA-philes aka not a real farmer. 

 

Classic Carrboro- to seem, rather than be.  Esse quam what?

I'm still trying to fill in the blanks on this

So one citizen raised oppositional concerns about killing a few chickens to teach local folks how it's done & that was enough to cause it to be canceled? Did the Board of Alderman all fall in behind Joal Broun's bureaucratic & abstract concern that preparing a few chickens for cooking may not meet health government regulations? (Turns out it did by a long shot...) In the midst of a flood of questionnable meat products in the day-to-day food system, is this really a real issue for local government?

 I'm sensitive to killing animals & I'm worried about the way we treat food production in this country. Actually, I'm more than worried about it. I know that corporate ag-business causes undue pain & torture for animals and results in sickness & death on occasion for consumers. And their products are on shelves throughout Carrboro.

 My family raises our own chickens & kills the roosters for meat. We also kill them for peace & quiet (roosters will often beat the dawn by several hours with their crowing), as well as to give the hens a little respite from the aggressive humping of the roosters. There has been a very healthy movement toward urban chicken raising. It's a great idea - you get eggs, you get really good fertilizer (it's "cold" fertilizer which means you can apply it immediately), you get entertainment (I was at Johnny's in Carrboro this evening and overheard someone say happily, upon spying a free-range chicken, that "this is the closest I've ever been to a chicken"), and you get meat. Obviously, you have to kill the chicken (am I really saying this??) to get the meat.

This is permaculture at it's best. The Carrboro Greenspace Collective clearly understands this. I wish they had taken advantage of this "teachable moment" and done what people have done for thousands of years - respectfully kill a few animals as part of the web of life.

Did one person (and a sensational story from the Chapel Hill News) really derail this normal and educational event?

But of course

"It's Carrboro" !!  To seem, rather than be.

I think I have a solution to this conflict

Have Sarah Palin kill the chickens, and have Nancy Pelosi make a nice batch of Socialist Tofu.

There you go! Problem solved. Thanks, Jerry!

Chicken's Laughter

I believe it was a typo: "chicken slaughter" should read "chicken's laughter".

Slaughtering chickens in Carrboro

Y'all are missing some important considerations in this discussion. If anyone wants to go to a farm or a slaughterhouse to see where their meat comes from, good for them! If urban farmers want to kill and eat one of their chickens, I hope they'll be skillful and merciful. But this is a proposal to kill animals in the heart of town on a pretty September day, when a whole lot of people who want to support our wonderful local co-op or just take the kids out for ice cream will be passing by, and many of them, for whatever reason, will not want to be party to this event.

And yes, it's Carrboro. Thousands of vegetarians and vegans, thoughtful people who have made a decision not to harm animals and guide every day of their lives by that decison, live in Carrboro or shop at Weaver Street Market, right across the street from the proposed killing. This choice of venue for the slaughter is incredibly tacky, to say the least. Would you hold a pork barbecue in a Jewish or Islamic neighborhood?

You may not agree with vegetarians and vegans, but it would be decent of you to respect them. You may dismiss Carrboro as a silly place, but if so you're missing out on a lot of interesting and important people and principles, and a great deal of beauty.

Weaver St. sells meat

Butchering chickens is just real life. It's certainly not meant as an affront to any group.

This is such an epic conflict

Between the Urban Farmers and the Vegetarians.  I think we should call in PETA to make sure there is no one choking chickens in Carrboro.

This sums up Carrboro

This sums up Carrboro nicely. Let's play farmer in suburbia because it's cool to eat organic and local and all that, but let's not actually kill the chickens we raise because it's not cool to hurt animals. Irony is just lost on some people.

Now I know the difference

Between so-called "urban farmers" and "real farmers".

 

Real farmers actually farm.  Urban farmers are just posers.  How silly.

Kramer, you should make one of those pull-string dolls

and put a few of your stock lines in a recording. Then, whenever an issue comes up you can pull the string and hear one of your cogent remarks like:

"Eco-posers!"

"Oh, but that would be too intelligent."

"I'm an engineer!"

"That's soooo progressive."

 

Thanks but I don't need one!

All I need to do is read your comments.  Har Har Har.

Children need to know

Children need to know where their chicken Mc Nuggets come from and how they are made.

That's ridiculous

Killing chickens for food has been normal for thousands of years. People should be more familiar with where their food comes from.

The fact that this is even an issue reveals how disconnected people are from their food supply.

Plus people will have a new understanding of the phrase "running around like a chicken with it's head cut off." It has to be seen to be believed.

Exactly...

We've gotten so comfortable and soft that people are genuinely disconnected with reality.

I say prep and cook the chickens...  give 'em a dose of reality, ...and lean protein.

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