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It's been awhile since we had a topic that brought one letter after another all morning. Guest columnist Katelyn Ferral, an N&O staff writer from Wisconsin, got folks riled up with her column questioning Southern food. Enjoy a taste and add your own comments:

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Speaking, perhaps on behalf of a few Southerners, regarding Ms. Ferral's uninformed opinion of traditional Southern foods, as expressed in her column of Sept. 2 "Kiss mah grits; is this food?":

 We are not amused.

Katrina W. McDaniel
Raleigh

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It is generally unwise to write about something that one doesn't understand. Especially when writing about something that is beloved by many. In her column on Southern food, Ms. Ferral admits her ignorance in the third sentence, yet goes on to knock nearly every breakfast food that North Carolinians hold dear.

I can only guess that she thought she was being funny, and found a receptive editor who agreed. Unfortunately, her jokes, like a poorly made biscuit, didn't rise.

Moving to the South and mocking Southern cuisine is as bad as moving to Wisconsin and making "cheesehead" jokes.

Byron Goode
Raleigh

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What was The N & O thinking in publishing the column "Kiss My Grits" on Sept. 2?  This was an odious rant about a fictional stereotype. We now recognize that it is offensive to satirize groups of individuals who share a particular ethnicity or religion, yet the "Southerner" is too often the brunt of stereotypical commentary such as this column. 

Would Ms. Ferral dare write such a column about any other readily identifiable group of people?  Would the N & O publish it if someone did?

On both counts, I hope not. This  "us" vs "them" mentality that characterizes her column has no place in the modern world.

Emily Lees
Chapel Hill

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I must register an amused objection to the Sept. 2 column by Katelyn Ferral regarding some of our much beloved Southern foods. Perhaps had she taken the time to research the era from which these foods sprang, she would understand the need for cheap and filling in a region historically entrenched in poverty with the extra challenge of little or no electricity.

Biscuits and gravy? Cheap and filling. Grits? Cheap and filling. Here in the South, we use those “big ol’ balls of carbs” to stretch a Wisconsin single serving of meat to feed four.

But as for weird foods, who in their right mind would eat lye-preserved fish (lutefisk)? Cheese curds are for people who cannot wait for the cheese to complete the entire cheese-making process. And Herring Rollmops? Really? This pride of Wisconsin is herring wrapped around cucumber and pickled – doesn’t sound like a top 10 dish to me (but I would try it)!

I think that Miss Katelyn would benefit by spending time with Andrea Weigl – an open, adventurous and accepting Yankee transplant.

Tiffany Broyles
Wendell

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In response to Katelyn Ferral’s Sept. 2 column, “Kiss mah grits; is this food?” I just have a couple of things to say.

I love this country. It allows us freedoms to express our opinions in open forums such as The News & Observer. That freedom has never been more evident than today, given what is happening all over the world. So I am happy that Ferral is able to tell us just what she really thinks about some of the more revered Southern specialties.

No, I am going to exercise my same freedom when I say that Ferral can go back to Wisconsin. As a parting gift, she can feel free to take our sweet tea with her.

Rebecca Hayes
Raleigh

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Regarding the Sept. 2 column “Kiss mah grits; is this food?” It is truly amusing that someone who most likely was raised on brats and sauerkraut, spatzel, fried fish every Friday (year-round), beer, cheese, beercheese, beer brats, beercheese soup, whole milk and more cheese and more beer could complain about “Southern breakfast.”

I have two “GRITS” in my family (girls raised in the South), and I love them as much as they love their country ham biscuits. My suggestion is that the author keep her personal distastes to herself like most qualified “foodies” do. Ever heard the adage when in Rome?

Dave Moody
Raleigh

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I continue to be amazed at commentary on the South by transplants from the North and West. While I welcome and appreciate those who move to the South for varied reasons and bring with them elements of their clulture, I do not appreciate (or tolerate) your opinion of things notable to a Southerner.

The young (and naive) writer falls into the trap of thinking we care what her opinion is of our traditional and cherished foods and culture. I like cheese but there are many items from her area of the country i would have no part of. I do not put them down nor do I partake of them.

I enjoy the influence of Italian, Mexican, Asian and other food clutures's but relish my Southern culinary roots. Here's the deal; to quote the late Lewis Grizzard (Great Southerner and protector of Southern things) "to all our Northern friends, come on down, eat our food, marry our women, build your homes. But don't tell us how you did back there. You don't like it, Delta (and other airlines) are ready when you are. They will have your butt back in Wisconson by midnight."

Stephen Agner
Chapel Hill

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I have some comments regarding the ruminations by Ms. Ferral over Southern food. Firstly, the author makes it quite clear in her diatribe that she is yet another Yankee who has no understanding of Southern culture. Stereotype affirmed.

The food we eat stems from tradition that emanated from necessity. Southerners, for well over 100 years, had to make "hearty" foods that were readily available. Biscuits with meat, gravy, grits, pork and ham: these are heavy foods that became tradition because they are very filling, much needed for hard work in our historically agrarian society. They also keep well and are easily portable.

Southerners combined those foods. Many cultures have "strange concoctions": so what?

Country ham: salted or cured pork was for centuries the only way to preserve meat, even in Wisconsin, but especially in our hot climate.

Oysters and shrimp grits, cheese in various foods: what's wrong with some regional variations?

If you don't have anything nice to say, or don't understand our culture, don't say anything. Maybe this is why Southerners don't move to Wisconsin (but Yankees certainly like moving here, in critical droves). We like our traditions.

So she likes sweet tea. Well, bless her heart. She at least got ONE thing right...

Taylor Lee
Greenville

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Food for thought

After reading Ms. Ferral's column on Sept 2, I immediately wrote to her personally at her N&O email with a simple retort: "Go back to Wisconsin. Please."

A week has past. Every other day or so I'd see another comment in the physical paper. Today, (Fri 9/9/11), I saw yet another and decided to "Google" her. Which is how I got to this site.

Taking both side's First Amendment rights for granted — at this point the question begs: "Unwitting, young, recent transplant who slid something through on a slow news day, or a day when editor was at the dentist right at deadline?

OR: "Calculated ploy by a sales-hungry management?

Mike Quinlan
Raleigh, NC

 

 

 

Something stinks in Wisconsin .... and it ain't the cheese

I am not a regular reader of the N&O but I just happened to read Ms. Ferral's piece on Southern food today. As she said about biscuits and pork chops, I don't get it.

Ms. Ferral began with a rant against biscuits (for the life of me, I don't know why - it's a piece of bread for Pete's sake) that goes on for most of the column and then abruptly meanders over into her hatred of and disgust with ham and grits.

Except for a nominal nod to sweet tea at the end, there was no personal angle addressing her experience with these foods which might have given some insight as to why she felt compelled to write about them. She just wasted a dozen plus paragraphs complaining about food she doesn't like. So what? What's interesting about that?

My guess is that, like some others who have moved South, Ms. Ferral is either keenly aware of or completely oblivious to the fact that many Southerners would find her words irritating, if not offensive. Whatever the case, I can assure you that no Southerner would ever move to another culture (yes, "Southern" is a culture) and then proceed to complain to the natives about it.

We understand why people move to the South and we love to have new folks with their own culture and traditions teach us something new (some of my best friends are Yankees). So we gladly welcome anyone who wants to live here and enjoy it as much as we do. But for those who find the South and all the good things it has to offer is not their cup of (sweet) tea then all we have to say is "bless your heart" and don't let the screen door hit you on the way out.   

Deborah Dion

You can't kiss my grits, 'cause I ate 'em!

 I'm a born and bred Southerner with utmost respect for people all over the USA--whatever they prefer to eat or how they put it together is fine with me, but emigrants to the South should respect our culture and our food habits.

Point in mind--Katelyn Ferral's recent column, "kiss mah grits; is this food?" She seemed to have stepped on quite a few Southern toes.  Who is she to tell us how we should eat our biscuits, our grits, and our gravy, but do we really expect a "Wisconsin emigrant" to understand?  And how would someone from a state, where they make beer and cheese soup, know "its (cheese) place" in Southern food?

I myself have never eaten grits as a cereal but a side dish with butter.  And she just pointed out how versatile a biscuit can be.  Buttered, with chicken, pork chop, jelly, covered with sausage gravy.  That's not to say I embrace Paula Deen's cooking style--it should come with a warning, "may be (most likely is) hazardous to your health."

But yeah, Katelyn found one Southern item to her liking--sweet tea.  I would love to hear her take on hushpuppies, fried okra, dumplings, banana puddin', tomato and banana sandwiches, collards, etc.  Then again, I'd rather not.

Excuse me, y'all - I hear a Bojangle biscuit calling me

Betty Hilliard

Durham

and you wonder why we drop subscriptions?!?!

I 'bout choked on my PORK CHOP BISCUIT this morning reading this mush... GO HOME gurl, you ain't right!.... this piece of 'writing' was sacarelisious and insulting....
are y'all that desperate at the N&O there to fill space like this with the Anti-Christ of Southern Food, OUR food? 

Who wakes up and goes, "You know, I'd really like to start off my day with a big ol' ball of carbs topped with a slab of pork"?  Ah, that would be ME...and thousands of others... fixed right in my own kitchen, but in case you haven't been introduced... one quick word...(lines of cars and hoards of people at) B.O.J.A.N.G.L.E.S.  Pork Chop Biscuits...Country Ham Biscuits... and you missed one, Balogna Biscuits.... pork on carbs...yep!   

As for your utter worthless blabber regarding one of the finest foods on this planet... Country ham - "This pseudo-meat product is pretty disgusting. I'll even go so far as saying it really shouldn't be considered food for humans. Eating country ham is like taking a bite out of a salt lick."  Bite me/US!  Your WRITING shouldn't be considered FOOD WRITING for humans!

Silly me, I took a chance recently and lost my sense for a moment (just last month) and re-subscribed!  CANCELLED! 

P.S.  I have NEVER EVER seen anybody put CHEESE in oatmeal... or anything similar.  Grits and oatmeal not even in the same food group in these parts... or any parts I've ever heard tell of! 

Poor taste, poorer writing

I wasn't shocked to see that Ms. Ferral's column in today's paper received this much negative attention; after all, it nudged me to write a letter to the editor for the first time in a while.

 

Fellow N&O observers have all rightly taken issue with the stereotyping of Southerners and the wholesale trashing of culturally rich foods we hold near and dear (and, I'll add, Ms. Ferral did lose me with her logic when she deplored a "big ol' ball of carbs" while later extolling the virtues of sweetening drinks...so, is she health-conscious, or just a picky eater who needs to revert to overwrought colloquialisms to paint a picture of the item she’s describing?).

 

What I have not seen in the comments, however, is attention to the most pressing issue regarding this column: its dreadful prose.

 

In addition to the threadbare metaphors, scattershot question marks and extraneous imagined conversations of the poor, dumb Southerners who enjoy a good biscuit, did Ms. Ferral really need to explain to us that the reason she compared the biscuit to the Sun in the Southern meal solar system is because "Everything revolves around it"?

 

Good thing she did, though; I thought she meant that the biscuit was composed of plasma and occasionally let loose with solar flares, damaging all poor grits and biscuit eaters in its unfortunate vicinity. Silly me.

 

One may not have to have taste to be a journalist—the possession of this virtue by Ms. Ferral and the editor who printed this piece of sophomoric, self-centered and fustian claptrap is debatable—but I thought one at least needed to possess writing skills beyond those required of a ninth grader.

 

-Katherine Veach

Atlantic Beach

Kiss Mah Grits!!

Kiss Mah grits; is this food? Yes, Ms Ferral it is food- and maybe if you actually took a taste of some of these dishes instead of making fun of them you would find they are delicious. FYI- Grits aren’t just for breakfast and if you really think grits are a “flavorless Cream of Wheat-like mash” then you obviously have never actually had real grits. To really appreciate southern food you have to venture further than the nearest fast food restaurant- try stopping at Mama Dip’s for a real southern meal.  I guess after eating all that  sausage & bratwurst  covered in cheese your taste buds are shot- or maybe it was that Wisconsin delicacy of Rollmops- a piece of herring wrapped around a cucumber and pickled!! YUCK!! Give me Shrimp and Grits any day of the week. 

Carrie Campbell

Jackson Springs

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