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See a First Look of health-care plan opponents protesting outside Sen. Kay Hagan's office in Raleigh on Friday, Aug. 14, 2009.

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As for being labeled a

As for being labeled a “racist pig” let’s not forget that “Princess Pelosi” is the one that started it all by calling Americans that are standing up for their Constitutional rights both Nazi’s and the new Klan. So if standing up for the Constitution of the United States makes me a “racist pig” or a " Nazi" then so be it. And speaking of the Constitution, I challenge you to show me anywhere in the Declaration of Independence, The Constitution of the United States, or the Bill of Rights where anyone has a “right” to guaranteed health care!

yeah like no one actually

yeah like no one actually care bout it anymore now 

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It seems that their protests

It seems that their protests had some effect after all. The new health care bill has been passed and the reform can finally start. I just hope it will also include coverage of abortion and drug rehab treatments in clinics such as . This could help a lot of teenage mothers or people who want to finally get a grip on their lives.

You all rallying like this

You all rallying like this is EXACTLY what your dear media wants you to do, they are feeding off the display you all are making. You all are an embarassment to being an American.

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must admit, I am not real

must admit, I am not real sharp but I don’t remember any rhetoric pertaining to going to war over Liberalism. As for the other “reasons” for war, do you really still believe that is why you went to war? That would be quite naive!

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How Funny, N&O "NO Pubic Option" pic on Front Page above Fold

Oh that is histerical. A blogger has a picture of the dead tree version of the N&O, and
it has the ridiculous NO Pubic Option featured. Did someone at the N7O realize and did this on purpose?

See the dead tree version here:
http://seetimblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/north-carolina-republicans-still-so.html

You have to wonder if the folks are that ignorant or if they've been infiltrated so as to make them look stupid.

OMG this is a scream.

N&O protestor picture "no PUBIC care" goes viral

It was just a matter of time before North Carolina became famous for illiterate protestors.

There's Wonkette: Healthcare Debate Rages Over Pubes ...Anyway, some jackass wrote “No Pubic Option” on a sign and proudly held it up at a healthcare reform protest, and the Raleigh News & Observer kindly cropped that mistake out of a protest photo it ran on its website. http://wonkette.com/410538/healthcare-debate-rages-over-pubes

North Carolina Republicans Still Dumb (After All These Years) UPDATE: It appears the N and O has cropped the Photo of the Year on their website. Look here: http://seetimblog.blogspot.com/2009/08/north-carolina-republicans-still-so.html

Are they raging against health reform or a Brazilian wax? http://www.politicalbloviation.com/blog-post/2087.html

 Town Hall sign: "No Pubic Option" http://community.thenest.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/21078191.aspx

 Open thread: NC wingnuts and health care - 'no pubic option' http://www.connexion.org/rssitem.cfm?src=1&tabnum=0&subtabnum=0&q=&p=0&id=286968

Pubic protest goes public You can't read it from this strategically cropped photo from the News & Observer, but the top line of the sign that the young woman in the little black dress is holding reads "No Pubic Option." (There's no "L" in that middle word.) http://xeditor.blogspot.com/2009/08/pubic-protest-goes-public.html

Edited to add:Sign on page 2 made it to the Huffington Post:The Funniest Signs From Town Hall Protests (PICS)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/17/the-funniest-signs-from-t_n_260838.html

Someone needs to tell her to

Someone needs to tell her to learn to spell English or go back to her own country!

sad...

sad thing is, she is more than likely from the united states, and that is how she spells "public"  hell, it would have been better if she did it was "publick" lmao

 

 

wonder if she knows shes the laughing stock of the net now... i have even made a special little avatar with her on it.  :D

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Hey Kluck Kluck
Do you really believe that you fought “five wars to contain Liberalism/Statism/Socialism/Communism”? I must admit, I am not real sharp but I don’t remember any rhetoric pertaining to going to war over Liberalism. As for the other “reasons” for war, do you really still believe that is why you went to war? That would be quite naive!
Here is my name:
Stephanie Garcia
P.S. You are just a stupid windbag. I'm going to read your post so I can finally get some sleep!

idiots

anyone on here notice that on the 2nd picture that the ignoramous in on the left side, her huge sign says "no pubic care"

 LMFAO.... idiots i say.

 

also, to those against the bill, have u ever even read it??  oh lemme guess, cause Faux, crap.. i mean Fix... no wait... Fox news says its so, it MUST BE SO.  You all rallying like this is EXACTLY what your dear media wants you to do, they are feeding off the display you all are making.  You all are an embarassment to being an American.  

Idiots

She is not an idiot. She just wants to opt out of pubic area examinations in the health care plan!

BWAHAHAHAHA

thats hilarious, thank you so much for that.  NO PUBIC CARE!!!  ALL THE REPUBLICANS CHANT WITH ME, NO PUBIC CARE!!!!! 

 

 

 

Thank you for your service

I DO NOT use the VA Healthcare System. It is the worst joke that every was. After battling with the local VA hospital for over a year on symptoms that were progressively getting worse to the point that I was actually fainting when standing up they finally ran a series of test. After waiting five weeks for the test results to come back all I could get out of the "doctor" was, “Your blood pressure is fine today!” I could see the computer screen and it showed that I had developed left ventricular hypotrophy, had a prolapsed mitral valve with calcified leaflets, was experiencing episodes of both tachycardia and bradycardia, and that the carotid arteries in my neck were clogging up. The “doctor,” who wasn’t even from this country, would not give me copies of the medical test reports. It took a week of battling the records clerks to get a copy of the medical reports. I took those reports to a local Internal Medicine doctor on a Wednesday. Upon reading the reports and listening to my description of the symptoms, that doctor immediately sent me to the lab in the hospital for blood work ups and chest X-rays. The very next day I was administered an Adenosine Myocardial Perfusion Scan (Nuclear Stress Test) which showed that almost 50 percent of my heart was not getting sufficient blood flow. The day after this test was finished I was sent in for a heart catherization, which showed that I had four major blockages. The cardiac specialist that could handle this type of damage operated on me the following Monday. The speed with which this all took place would never have happened in the VA. And I paid for it all with my own health insurance.

As for my “career” with the military, people do not go into the military for careers. It is a calling that few people are capable of handling. I sacrificed having a wife or children because of the rigors of my “career.” As a single man there were many holidays that I stood in the breach so that others could be at home with their loved ones. Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, and Airmen do this job because we believe in what we do! It is not for the money! Careers are what people do to earn a lot of money. The pay scale for military personnel is a much lower than their counterparts in the civilian job market. I know. I worked in the civilian sector after retiring from the USAF. As for my retirement, I earned that just like anyone else earns from his or her job. I paid taxes the whole time that I served. I paid state income taxes, I paid federal income taxes, I paid Medicare taxes, and I paid FICA taxes. I paid property taxes. I paid it all! And all the time that I was serving my country I was saving and investing my money wisely. I did not, and still don’t, live beyond my means. That’s why my credit score is an 830 out of a possible 850. Like the gentleman from Australia said, if it weren’t for the American service men and woman that stand in the breach the Aussies would be speaking Japanese, the English and French would be speaking German, and the modern day Germans would be speaking Russian.

And as for Obamacare, you are correct when you say that it isn’t final yet. That is because the Heartland of America does not want to have Big Government involvement in their lives to the extent that is buried in HR 3200. That is why the American people are raising their voices. Go to the Library of Congress website at http://thomas.loc.gov/, type in HR 3200, select the “radio button” for bills and read the bill. Or at least read the CRS Summary. Then go to http://www.lc.org/media/9980/attachments/healthcare_overview_obama_072909.pdf and check out the line-by-line review of HR 3200 where the "lawyer speak" has been converted in to plain English. It will scare the hell out of you!

Sincerely,
Michael E. Hyers
MSgt, USAF (Ret)
Life Member National Rifle Association
Life Member Disabled American Veterans
Semper Vigilo, Semper Fortis, Semper Paratus et Fidelis! -- Always Vigilant, Always Brave, Always Ready and Faithful!
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If anyone other than the addressee of this e-mail is reading it, you are in violation of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. Any law repugnant to the Constitution shall neither be enforced nor obeyed.

Hey Sarg, you do understand

that the US Constitution doesn't guarantee rights, it simply enumerates them. Rights are inalienable. That means that, even if the US Constitution were revoked, the rights it lists would still be valid. Rights. Not privileges.

Also, Ammendment 9 states:

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

That means simply this - Just because you don't read it here, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. it doesn't matter that Health Care isn't in the original, it is not thereby excluded.

Furthermore, Article 1, Section 8 reads : The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States.

To provide for the general welfare, Congress is 100% within their contitutional duties to enact health care reform.

And BTW, you're wrong, buddy. Some people do go into the Armed Forces as a career move. There's nothing wrong with that, so quit trying to pretend it doesn't happen.

And that's what I thought,

And that's what I thought, Sarge.  When faced with facts, you've got nothing to say.

Nothing. 

All I see are a bunch of fat old white people...

It is evident in your ranting diatribe that you were not and have not been coming to any events such as this. There were numerous BLACK Americans in the crowd as well. Not African-Americans, because none of them were actually born on the African Continent according to the ones that I spoke with, but real live Black Americans, people that were born and raise right here in North Carolina. There were also Indian-Americans who emigrated here from India, Korean-Americans who came here for a better life. There were Japanese-Americans who have emigrated here from Japan for a better life, Greek-Americans who came here for a better life. And the list goes on. Why is it that America is still the NUMBER ONE country that people want to immigrate to either legally or illegally? Because this is where a person can work hard and make a go of it for them self! They come here for economic and political freedom that they did not have in their homelands.

As for Liberialism/Statism, that is the agenda that the so-called Democratic Party wants to achieve in this nation. Total control over our lives with us beholding to the "Almighty State." Why is it that the Democrats are a bunch of "educated" elitist that believe they know what is better for all the rest of the country. Why do they refer to the areas outside of New York, Boston, Washington, and Hollywood as "flyover country?" It is because they cannot stand to be around the great "unwashed masses" of people who make up the GREATNESS of this nation. They serve no one but themselves!

Senator (sic) Kay Hagan, D-NC, HAS REFUSED TO HOLD TOWN HALL MEETINGS. Therefore, a specific individual from the Triangle Area had a specific appointment to discuss specific issues concerning healthcare. When Hagan found out that the people of North Carolina were lining up to see her at the time this lady was due to meet with her, SHE CHICKENED OUT and claimed a previous "family engagement" (according to WRAL-TV). She sent her office lackies to do her job--listen to what the people had to say!

Study your history. This battle has been raging in this country since the Granddaddy of all Liberal/Statist—Franklin D. Roosevelt was in office. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRdLpem-AAs&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwethepeoplenc%2Ening%2Ecom%2F&feature=player_embedded

Why is it that when we see fundraisers for needy causes it is predominant Conservative business people who are the ones donating their time and money for these events? The only time I see Liberals/Statist shelling out any money it is to put some "mouthpiece" in charge of a bunch of elitist who don't give a damn about the ordinary man. Do you give a tenth of your income to support any that are less fortunate than you? Or do you just suck at the hind tit of government largess like most Liberals? As for me I do give a tenth and more each month to support Falcon Children's Home right here in North Carolina. And by the way, it is not an orphanage run by the STATE. It is an orphanage that is run on private donations and it teaches the children manners, self-worth, and self-reliance. All of which grossly appear to be lacking in your character as evidenced by your writings.

As for both the Republicans and Democrats, they are both as corrupt as can be. They remind me of the Mafia. You have the Gambino's on one side and the Genovese's on the other side fighting over turf until some outside force comes against them at which point they unite. Well, that is what is happening right now in Washington. The people in the Heartland of America are sick and tired of being caught in the crossfire between politicians that can't or won't follow their oath of office. We The People are coming together to make a change in this country and it will be for the better because we are going to bring this nation back to being a Constitutional Republic like the Founding Fathers designed it to be! I am neither a Republican nor Democrat! I cannot stand either party because of the inherent corruption that percolates through both parties at all levels!

As for the Patriot Act, I think it is the most despicable piece of legislation that was ever fostered on this country to date. Giving the Government "legal" authority to spy on it's citizens and having agents at transportation points to "check your papers, please," i.e., Transportation Safety Administration (TSA) reminds me of Communist China, the old USSR, Saudi Arabia, Angola, Zimbabwe, Cuba, or Nazi Germany. The Patriot Act is about as un-American and UNCONSTITUTIONAL as you can get! I am so frustrated with the whole situation that I don't use commercial air anymore to travel. The last time I flew anywhere on a commercial airliner I showed up at the airport wearing just my bathing suit and flip-flops so that we could speed up the process of strip searching me! Nowadays I just drive or use my private pilot's license to fly long distances.

As for millions losing their homes--they lost their homes because they were not able to manage their money properly! When people live beyond their means they are bound to find themselves in deep, deep trouble sooner or later. As for me, I live within the confines of my means. I don't know and don't care what you credit score is. But mine is 830 out of an 850. And why is that? Because I only have one J.C. Penney's card and one credit card. And I pay both of them off when the bill comes in! I normally pay in cash. I learned as a boy, neither a lender nor borrower be! It has served me well all my life.

Addressing the issue of poor and low-income families in America let's start by saying that they need to get off their butts. They are poor and have low incomes because they are too lazy to stay in school and get an education. As for me, I grew up going to school in the "poor Southern school systems of south Georgia." When I went to school the LOCAL school board directed our education. It was not mandated and run from Washington. Therefore, we learned to READ, WRITE, THINK CRITICALLY, and to DO MATH WITHOUT A CALCULATOR OR COMPUTER! As a result of that education I was able to go on to earn 3 college degrees, get a pilot’s license, and have learned to get a bed, a bath, and a beer in eight different languages! And you? What are you capable of doing with your education? Today’s “education” is a total waste of time in the public setting. All public school teachers are doing today is being babysitters for a bunch of juvenile delinquents. To give you an example of this I stopped at a fast food facility in Raleigh after the rally for a burger. The total price was $6.25. I gave the “cashier” $11.25 for the meal. The idiot behind the counter (with his pants hanging below his butt) told me that I was overpaying for the meal. I informed the uneducated village idiot that he could give me a $5 bill in change and all would be well. He then proceeded to call over the manager. Like I said, the person was the village idiot. I explained to the manager what was going on. The “manager” told me I should not have given the cashiers the $11.25 because it would just confuse them. They only knew how to operate the cash register and give the change shown on the machine. At that point the “manager” gave me back $6.25 and told me to have a nice day! And then we wonder why they are working for minimum wage. Give me a break! Stay in school and get an education! I did! And so can you!

As for me "rioting" because the current administration is trying to give Americans health care I have not seen any "riots" nor have I have seen anyone being hauled off by the police for unruly behavior. In fact, we generally thank the Raleigh Police Department for the fine job that they do. However, I have seen numerous instances via the Internet and television where union members have attacked people who have been expressing their rights under the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. And just for your edification I will post the First Amendment right here: Amendment I—Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free expression thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

And for as attacking me for my service to my country, just exactly what have you done to serve your country or your town or your neighborhood? Have you ever been part of the Jaycees and raised the funds needed to build the North Carolina Jaycees Burn Center at UNC Hospital in Chapel Hill? I was! Have your ever volunteered to serve as a Boy Scout Leader even though you don't have children because you gave up the opportunity to have a family because you answered a higher call to serve your nation? I do! Do you ever take a disabled friend or neighbor to the doctor or grocery shopping? I do every week! Have you ever stopped at a bus stop and offered a man (a stranger) in a wheelchair a ride to wherever he needed to go? I have! Do the neighborhood kids come over to your house to learn how to work on vehicles or do woodworking because either their parents are not home or are too ignorant? All the time at my house! Do you ever take the neighborhood kids fishing or camping so that their parents can have a little time for each other? I do! SO TELL US JUST WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO SERVE OTHERS? Like most bleeding heart Liberals you just want to sit on your hands until they go numb then jerk yourself off and claim that somebody else did it to you!

As for being labeled a “racist pig” let’s not forget that “Princess Pelosi” is the one that started it all by calling Americans that are standing up for their Constitutional rights both Nazi’s and the new Klan. So if standing up for the Constitution of the United States makes me a “racist pig” or a "Nazi" then so be it. And speaking of the Constitution, I challenge you to show me anywhere in the Declaration of Independence, The Constitution of the United States, or the Bill of Rights where anyone has a “right” to guaranteed health care!

And unlike the rest of you sniveling dogs I have the gonads and the backbone to sign my name!

Michael E. Hyers
MSgt, USAF (Ret)
Life Member National Rifle Association
Life Member Disabled American Veterans
Semper Vigilo, Semper Fortis, Semper Paratus et Fidelis! -- Always Vigilant, Always Brave, Always Ready and Faithful!
www.wethepeoplenc.ning.com

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If anyone other than the addressee of this e-mail is reading it, you are in violation of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. Any law repugnant to the Constitution shall neither be enforced nor obeyed.

Um....actually

...it's supposed to be "Ku" Klux Klan. But your pride in being attached to one of the country's oldest terrorist groups, a domestic enemy for sure, let's me know where your heart lies. And don't forget that President Obama is STILL your commanding officer. If you take your oaths as seriously as you claim, you will certainly dial down your rhetoric because it isn't helping.

All I see are a bunch of fat old white people...

bitching about things they obviously don't have a clue about. If you are collecting social security...YOU are benifiting and collecting out of a socialist program. If you are using medicare....YOU are benifiting and collecting out of a socialist program. If you are collecting military retirment...YOU are benifiting and collecting out of a socialist program. If you have ever had to call or make use of the police or firemen of your town...YOU are benifiting and collecting out of a socialist program. So if your using and benifiting from a socialist program..you are a hypocrite to be bitching about it. As to Liberalism you stupid old women..YOU wouldnt be allowed to vote or to be wearing those pants or to be able to die your hair or even cut it or be out in public without your male family members or husbands escorting you if LIBERAL men and women had not fought and died for you to have those rights. It was not conservatives that built this nation, all they have ever done is run up debts. You people seem to have forgotten in less than eight months that these debts were run up under Bush and his administration. They are also the ones that put the bail outs in motion. Obama only inheirated Bush's mess. And yet you blame him. You didn't get mad when the offical 9-11 story was full of holes .  You didn't get mad when they Patriot Act was already written before two weeks had passed...all over 800 pages of it...which tore the Constitution (that some of your "morans" claim to have taken an oath to uphold) to shreds. You didn't get mad when our nation bombed an innocent nation and our children were marched off to serve and die in yet one more war based on a pack of lies. You didn't get mad when treason was committed and our agents outted for political gain. You didn't get mad when you found out millions were losing their homes or when the rich were bailed out once again by Bush and company. Hell no...you didn't get mad then but you sure got mad when Obama tried to help out poor and low income Americans and to try to insure those without medical care.  I can't write this as well as the original DUer that wrote the long long list of crap you didn't even bat an eyelash over but I think you get the idea.

You people make me sick and ashamed of you..and especially YOU sir who claim to be such a patriot and in the military. YOU sir have FAILED to uphold your oath when you supported Bushs lies. YOU sir have FAILED to be a patriot when you riot when our president is trying to help AMERICANS have health care. YOU sir have FAILED to be an American when you are proud to claim the name of racist pigs.  You sir are a disgrace to all the Americans that fought and died for the Constitution and especially to the proud marine corp.  You sir are attacking the COMMANDER IN CHIEF you idiot.

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See photo #2 - its likely to end up on MSNBC

The sign in the 2nd slide is just another embarrassment for North Carolina. It says "No PUBIC option".   :O

Why did the N&O only show the anti health care signs?

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Who is that, exactly? 

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In May 2007, the Associated Press and other publications reported that Blue Cross had "set aside $2 million for what is likely to be a deep-pocketed campaign to undermine the health care reforms being pushed by Democratic lawmakers and Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger."

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Michael E. Hyers, Master Sergeant, USAF (Ret)

As an Australian I may be butting in here where I'm not wanted but I'd like to give some observations on our system of universal health care we have enjoyed since 1973 in my country. First- thank you Mr Myers for your military service-we Aussies have never forgotten the Yanks saved out bacon in the South Pacific in WW2 and we cherish the special friendship that has been forged between our 2 countries.
All political parties in Australia from conservative to liberal and everyone in between now support the public option where everyone has access to good medical care. In fact, the last very conservative PM who got on pretty well with your last president tried to find ways to improve the system-and all public infrastructures need improvement- and he succeeded. In the past 6 years I've had 2 full knee replacements, something I could never have afforded by going private. All I paid for was my TV rental in hospital and taxi-fare home (although the free hospital bus would have got me there).

But nothing is free of course in the end-we pay a medicare supplement in our taxes and we pay it every week but over a few decades that adds up of course and all those years when I haven't needed medical help-suddenly it's there just when I do and haven't got the cash. I see it as no different than paying taxes to build roads, schools , highways and everything else. Plus the government covers the un-employed. pensioners and so on.

Plus of course there is a private option for those who want gold plated treatment away from the hoi polloi like me but I'm happy in the public ward and the doctors are just the same so -whatever !.

I think you should look carefully at the plan eventually your leaders offer you as it your country and your health but I honestly think many Americans are over-reacting to something that we, most of Europe and Scandanavian countries just take for granted now-a right to medical treatment which we don't regard as a luxury and which 90% of doctors and nurses support. I also lived in the UK for 10 years and the British National Health system can be aggravating and unwieldy at times, always underfunded but most problems there are caused by bureaucracy.-and the Brits invented the word and know more ways to complicate any system!.

It's up to you guys in the end-but you should examine what is on offer very minutely. We did back in 1973..gave it a go and we have never looked back.

Your military service = health care policy expertise?

I highly doubt that any of your orders contained that phrase: "Liberalism/Statism/Socialism/Communism" - and which "liberal" countries you were waging war against, since I'm assuming now that you believed we waged war against nations that held free, open, and honest elections. Flying experience doesn't make you an expert in the social constructs of any nation. And you don't seem to complain about a career which not only provided you with special benefits, discounts, medical care, and retirement (all paid for by my taxes) but you readily accepted those benefits as an entitlement for serving your country.

Not every veteran gets those privileges. For example, in many of those wars you participated in, decorated gay and lesbian soldiers were dishonorably discharged for no other reason than conservative "witch hunts" and the conditions of their discharges left them with no benefits for serving their country. They took the same oath that you did, Sir, and received nothing back in return, even though more than 20 million of their fellow gay American citizens paid taxes. If you took an oath to defend the Constitution, and the Constitution says nothing about some Americans being "unfit" to serve AFTER they've already been enlisted, served with distinction, and committed no related crime to that service, why is it that you failed to smell THAT skunk?

The two most telling signs

"Senor Care" and "Where's the Birth Certificate?"
Ladies and gentlemen, meet the New Klux Klan.

Proud to be the "New Klu Klux Klan"

Since you are not intellectually bright enough to get the title correct, i.e., the "New Klux Klan" which should read "New Klu Klux Klan" and you can only comment on the "Senor Care" and "Where's the Birth Certificate" signs, it is a safe bet that you are not bright enough to know about or understand the effects of Liberalism/Statism/Socialism/Communism.

I am the gentleman in picture number 11.  As a decorated Air Force combat veteran (51 awards and decorations--Airmans Medals, Meritorious Service Medals, Air Medals, Aerial Achievement Medals, Commendation Medals, and Air Force Achievement Medals to name a few) with 6000+ flying hour (500+ actual combat hours) across five wars to contain Liberalism/Statism/Socialism/Communism I am more than qualified to know the effects of Liberalism/Statism/Socialism/Communism.  I know what a skunk smells like when I smell it.  And Obamacare is the worst smelling skunk that I have smelled in a very long time.  And it will soon be a dead skunk in the middle of the road! 

The day that I entered the Air Force I swore an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic.  No where in my retirement orders is anything stated that absolves or relieves me of that oath.  Therefore, that oath is still in effect for me.  As a Southerner born and bred, my word (oath) is my honor.   And if it comes down to being the "new Klu Klux Klan" then I will proudly wear a white sheet that also has a blue field with 50 white stars and 13 red and white stripes!

Michael E. Hyers,  Master Sergeant, USAF (Ret)

Fayetteville, NC

would you protect your neighbor, their child, mother, wife?

Thank you for your service. 

Your realize that your benefits are all due to socialism - VA benefits, pension, SS all paid for by US citizens like me.

Do you accept your socialized benefits: retirement pension, or social security, or VA benefits?

If you are patriotic, perhaps you realize that health care benefits are dragging down our businesses and they no longer can compete in the modern economy, where 30 industrialized nations DO provide health care access?

If you are sworn to protect citizens, then how about those of us who have no health insurance, or lost our insurance or or have "preexisting conditions" or have used up their lifetime limits in insurance? Or those of us whose claims are turned down by insurance companies?

Would you defend we citizens against the ever increasing rise in cost of health insurance, while care diminishes but CEO bonues and profits increase exponentially?

Would you protect the citizens? 

Whose wife, child, daughter or mother would you deny access to health care?

 

 

Liberalism/Statism/Socialism/Communism

Thanks for your service sarge, but please tell me when the United States ever waged a war against Liberalism?

Save yourself the effort, because you can't. Liberalism is the political philosophy that emphasizes individual rights and equality of opportunity. Go ahead. Look it up.

If you've ever fought against individual rights and/or equality of opportunity, then you've given no service to your country. But I doubt that such is the case.

I'm betting you are getting Liberalism mixed up with Roosevelt's New Deal and our current system of economic socialism. Yeah, buddy, thats right. Socialism.

You see, you live in a Republic that incoporates the principles of Democratic Socialism. Medicare, Social Security, VA Benefits, Publica Eductaion, down to the god blessed Interstate Highway system that America depends on to deliver goods and services are publically funded and provided for. That's Socialism at work in our Democracy.

You may disagree with this way of life, and that's your right. But it IS the the system you've defended in 5 wars.  - By the way, in which 5 wars did you serve before you retired? You don't look that old in your photo :)

So again, thank you for your service. Now step down soldier, and let America care for and heal it's sick. It's the American thing to do. If you're religious at all, it's also the moral thing to do.

‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.’ Matthew 25:40

I'm plenty bright, thanks

And I know a bunch of paranoid white supremacists when I see them. So, you say you view supporters of health care reforms -- and our elected president -- as "domestic enemies," do you? My oh my, how you disciples of Glenn Beck make me laugh, with your "Don't Tread on Me" nonsense. You see yourselves as heirs to the American Revolutionaries, but to me, you seem like an angry, pathetic bunch of Civil War re-enactors who desperately wish the original outcome had been different. So go ahead and rock that white sheet, Sarge, because it fits you to a tee -- you are the loud, boo-ing ghost of Jim Crow.

And by the way, Sarge...

.. "New Klux Klan" was an intentional little bit of wordplay. You're not too bright yourself.

Thank you for your service

But if you enjoy your medical care in the Veterans Administration you are enjoying socialism which is being paid by our tax dollars.  That's how Socialism works.  Everyone pays taxes and everyone benefits, including the people who can't work, the handicapped, and the elderly.  Your medical service is very good and why can't all Americans have something like it?  Your entire career has been paid for by the government using our tax dollars.  You've made a living just like the firemen who keep your house safe, and the policemen who keep your community safe and the schools where you and everyone you know went. Why shouldn't health care be one of those services?

And you really don't know what 'Obamacare' is because a bill hasn't been hashed out yet. There are two bills being hammered out right now.  One in the House and one in the Senate.   Each body will then vote on a final version of its bill and then the bill will go into committee again to be hammered out into one final bill which President Obama will sign or veto.

Again.  Thank you for your service

 

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