Three Points from N.C. State's 90-86 win over Virginia Tech:

1) Reality check

Twenty-five games is enough of a sample to determine what this N.C. State team isn't. This N.C. State team is not a juggernaut. Saturday's dogfight with the last-place team in the ACC is just the latest example of that.

There are no easy ACC wins for this N.C. State team, despite having the most talented lineup in the conference. For large portions of Saturday's game, Virginia Tech relied on some combination of Will Johnston, Joey van Zegeren and Marshall Wood. And N.C. State still needed overtime to dispatch the Hokies, who fell to 2-10 in the ACC.