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This could be a make or break week for the NHL and for players growing increasingly anxious about getting the season started.

The NHL and NHL Players Association will hold formal collective bargaining negotiations Tuesday in New York. It's expected commissioner Gary Bettman and NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr will attend the CBA talks.

One of two outcomes is likely -- either substantial movement toward accord on a new CBA, or a further division between the league and union over CBA issues that deepens and puts the 2012-2013 season at risk.

"At some point you can't just keep saying they're not going to be make-or-break weeks," Carolina Hurricanes defenseman Jay Harrison said Monday. "Eventually there's going to come a tipping point.

"I think we've got to be getting close. We've bounced a lot of ideas. We've worded them differently but ultimately there's a few foundational agreements that we can move towards with each other."

Harrison said he was optimistic an agreement can be struck, and soon.

"If you ever had any hope of playing this year, you've got to feel good about this week and hope that all the hard work that has gone into negotiations to this point has been worth it," he said. "We can get going and by the time the playoffs start this will all be like a bad dream."

NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly and NHLPA special counsel Steve Fehr met at length Saturday -- and at a secret location. It then was said a formal negotiating session would be held this week, and that Donald Fehr and Bettman would be present.

"That's what we've been waiting for, to get to the negotiating table and actually start a dialogue," said Los Angeles Kings forward Kevin Westgarth, a member of the players' negotiating committee.

It's believed the league has softened its stance on how to fund the players' existing contracts.

Under the league's latest CBA proposal, the NHL and players would split hockey-related revenue 50-50 and there would be a "make-whole" provision to fund contracts through deferred compensation. But the league now may be willing to set aside part of its share of hockey-related revenue to pay the compensation.

That, in essence, is what the union proposed Oct. 18 -- the third of three NHLPA proposals that were quickly rejected by the league.

"I've reserved optimism about this week," said Westgarth, who lives in Raleigh in the offseason. "Hopefully there's the right amount of pressure on both sides to get something done."

The meetings in New York will be held with more NHL players headed to Europe to play. Canes defenseman Jamie McBain left Monday to play in Finland. Canes forward Jussi Jokinen said he has signed a six-game contract with Karpat of the a Finnish elite league and will leave within a week.

The NHL has canceled all regular-season games through the end of November and on Friday canceled the 2013 Winter Classic, the New Year's Day game in Ann Arbor, Mich. It is not known how much of the regular-season schedule could be rescheduled and played if a CBA were to be signed in the next week or so.

"There's no doubt a significant chunk can get done if this gets resolved relatively quickly," Harrison said.

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What's frustrating..

is the reporting on this ongoing he said/he said. One report(er) hs one thing, another has something else and a third is different that the other two. There are a couple of antagonistic reporters who want to throw petrolium on the already raging inferno.  One is in NYC and wrotes for the Post, the other is in Pittsburgh.  I am getting sick and tired of the NHLPA and their constituents with their tweets.  You might be winning some fans over to your side, but I sense that you're losing more and more. Fans were completely behind the players at the beginning, now I don't think that's the case.

free agency

Seems like 8 years or 28 years of age is a bad deal for the players, it is proably the average life of a player in the NHL .it is encoraging that they are talking, its better than not ...

Agreed

The limits the league wants to put on arbitration and free agency is far more damaging to the player's future earnings than the 50/50 split.  

YAWN.....

huh?....what?

Hard to Envision a Season

  The question is whether both the NHL owners and the NHL players would rather fight over the last comma, dollar, and term of a new CBA or whether they'd all rather make some money this season.  The dynamics don't look very promising to me for an agreement in time to play a season; but again, I hope I am mistaken.

  There is one over-arching disagreement.  The players as of yet are  unwilling to take a pay cut when NHL revenues have increased enormously.  In short, they want their pending contracts honored.  It's a very reasonable position to take; but whether the NHL owners are ready to concede is not clear.  There is a significant difference beween a pay cut and an agreement to level out salaries.  

  The end game is likely to be a 50/50 HRR with contracts honored.  The owners would need the option to pay the shortfall over time.  If owners are unwilling to follow that type of approach rather than lose a season, I suspect the entire season will go unplayed.  To bad www.fivethirty.com hasn't weighed in on this issue, Nate Silver was 50 out of 50 in his presidential state by state predictions.  He'd be able to tell us the odds.

no

no hockey this season

NHLPA Approved

Sounds like the NHLPA sent out talking points to the players.  I've heard similar statements from other players in other markets.  I'm getting tired of the publicity war from both sides.  I'm glad they're at a secret location so we don't have listen to their BS.  Call me when you have a deal.

Fehr

Whoops!  My mistake, Fehr had to find the press and run his yap.  All while wearing a poppy.  Can this guy be any more fake?  

Christmas

No hockey by Christmas, no more me as a fan. 

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A Raleigh native, Chip has worked at the N&O since 1979 and is the Canes beat writer. He can be reached at chip.alexander@newsobserver.com. You can follow him on Twitter at @ice_chip.
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