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Monday debate: Blue line renovations (Mk. II)

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Exit Anton Babchuk and Dennis Seidenberg. Enter Aaron Ward and Andrew Alberts.

Question: Do the changes on defense leave the Hurricanes better equipped to handle teams like the Penguins?

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Ward vs. Seidenberg? I'd

Ward vs. Seidenberg? I'd have to say advantage Ward. People have commented that their skating abilities and offense are similar. But who would you rather have in a shut down role? Definitely Ward.

I don't know much about Alberts. There is the potential for some speed matchup issues if he and Wallin are paired, which looks likely. That pairing's effectiveness is going to be determined by the way the game is officiated to some extent. If Wallin can play like he did in the beginning of last season (remember the All-Star push from fans?) then we're in good shape.

For this one, I think we won't know till we see it

At least, for me, its hard to tell what this new defense will be capable of. I don't think the problem in Pitt was that we weren't out muscled so much, but that the defense was undressed by two superstar players. Getting rid of Babchuk and replacing him with Ward is a huge plus in my mind. Ward is the polar opposite of Babchuk- he hits, he blocks shots, and he is reliable in his own zone -- EXACTLY the type of player Rutherford wanted. However, its been a few years, and he is getting older and inevitably slower. But don't forget he was matched up against all top lines in the NHL last year night in and night out with Chara. Dumping Seidenberg for Alberts is alot more questionable. I always thought Seidenberg is an underrated skater despite what some here think, and he makes a good first pass. He has good agility and is not afraid to lay the body. Alberts is bigger and surely less agile, with not much offensive upside though he definitely uses his size for physicality. So this one is hard to tell- we lose the offense of Seids but hopefully gain more reliable defense from Alberts? It will be hard to tell if it was the right move until the puck hits the ice, but our GM made the decision and I trust he is right.

Can't wait to see it on the ice! Go Canes!

How about Tripp?

Ward's return raises broadcast questions:
When the University of Michigan communications major retires from the NHL, he's likely to head to a broadcast booth. He said so on XM radio a few weeks back. Will it be our booth? Will he replace Tripp or join Chuck?
Say what you will about his skating, he's a funny guy who would add a lot to Canes' broadcasts.

Ward

I don't see him doing radio, ex-NHLer's tend to go towards TV. Also, he'd be a great candidate for national coverage with either Versus or NBC, I doubt they'd have a position for him at HNIC.

It all starts at the local level

I wondered the same thing about Tripp's future on the day of the Ward trade.  A move to the Carolina TV market post-career was even mentioned by the Boston TV crew during last season.

None of the VS / NBC jobs are full-time gigs.  Virtually everyone that they use have team affialiations throughout the season (including, of course, Mr. Forsland).

There's also a few X-NHL'ers on the radio, not least of which is Phil Esposito, who does color on the home TB games

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Agreed

I don't think Tripp will lose his job though, despite his quirky character flaws, I think he does a decent job. I see Ward joining multiple panels on a part-time basis at first - probably NBC, Versus, and TSN. From there who knows, one thing is for certain, when Mr. Ward retires he's not going to need to jump into a full time job, he's been in the NHL a long time, has earned a lot of money, and probably wants to take it easy for a couple of years after he retires (spend some time with his family).

Revamped Defense

I think the addition of Ward and Alberts will be a significant help to the overall team defense. I am disappointed that Babchuk has such poor overall judgment about his career; but I can understand Jim Rutherford's position that a contract has to mean something. I was not a great fan of Seidenberg. I thought he was a mediocre skater who didn't like to battle. I realize playing defense in the NHL is a thankless job at best because every slight miscue can result in a goal. On the other hand, Seidenberg seemed to be at his worst when the team needed him most. My view is that the NHL is returning to a more physical style of play and without defenders slowing down the elite players like Malkin, the elite players score goals almost at will -- as we saw in the Eastern Conference Finals. I am very concerned, however, that the inconsistent power play of the Hurricanes last season has to be fixed. I don't see Ward or Alberts adding offensive firepower; so I am hoping one of the young turks like Boychuk, or Bowman, as well as Rodney or McBain will step up.

Changes

With our new additions our d-core is better equipped to shut-down our opponents forwards. I don't think the "we lost too much speed' argument holds water, in case you're forgetting Seidenburg was a pretty average skater (no better than Ward) and Babchuk was slow, neither guy really swollowed guys up like Alberts and Ward will. In our own zone Babchuk struggled for the most part, other than the power play during the regular season, he was pretty average. I think we'll miss a little bit of his offense, but I believe this will be more than offset by Alberts ability to eat guys up and generally make life miserable for opposing forwards. I think the biggest advantage of having a guy like A. Ward are his leadership abilities, he's great in the locker-room and he practices what he preaches which is contageous and has a snowball effect.

Well

We already know Tim and Corvo can play well together. Aaron Ward will mesh well with Pitkanen in my opinion. And every pairing doesn't have to have an offensive minded guy so Wallin and Alberts should work out fine. As for the powerplay...

Staal, Whitney, and Cole with Corvo and Cullen on the points

and

Jokinen, Samsonov, and Ruutu with Pitkanen and Ward on the points should work out just fine.

blue liners

the real question is , are the players we did sign better than what we let go? offensivly ...no are they faster?....no.. but they are defintely more physical, and defensive minded. In the playoffs last year boston was just as pkysical as anybody and we beat them , the pens had some very fast forwards ...If the axiom of ' YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR" holds true then we will be scrapping for a playoff spot once again

Power Play

I think that the moves made have improved the physicality, size, and overall toughness of the blue line. As a team the canes didn't have enough physicality and Pittsburgh was able to out-muscle them after two very physical 7-game series. I think that if we take out boston in 5 or 6 then the pittsburgh series comes out different, maybe not a win but not a sweep, but I digress. What we will miss though is the second defensemen on the power play.

You don't want to put corvo and pitkanen together and of the D-men that are left no one has the puck-moving abilities of Kabrele or Sieds, or the shot of Babchuck. Wallin, Alberts, Gleason, and Ward are more stay at home guys, not known for their passing or their shots.  Gleason has improved every season since he's been in Carolina so maybe he can take that step.  There are guys in the minors with that ability; Bryan Rodney for instance, McBain most definitely, and Borer too, but those players need to be playing together in Albany to develop the chemistry for next season when there's room for those guys in the top 6. The canes don't want to dress a 7th d-man because that would put both kostopolous and conboy in the press box which is where Conboy will more than likely be anyway and that 7th D wouldn't get enough minutes for him to be effective anyway.

Cullen has played the point ably enough in his time with the canes, very well in '06, so he could be penciled in for one unit. Whitney has played the point before too but he is his most effective from the half wall. Brindy, Samsonov, and Larose are all better served being below the tops of the circles. And Staal, Cole, and Ruutu should all be near the net to have the PP be effective. I suppose Jokinen could play the point, but I don't remember him having all that big a shot.

I guess the canes could try 5 forwards again, but I recall that being an unmitigated disaster under Lavy. Who knows, maybe Mo could put some shine on that turd.

As far as competing with the elites in the east including the defending champs; the canes ability to hang with philly, boston, pittsbugh, or washington will be determined mostly by maintaining the team defense concept that Mo instituted when he showed up. Playing that style the Canes can beat anyone, any day, anywhere. I think that, barring serious injuries, the canes can be a top 4 seed. But the PP question must be answered.

while the Canes

New blue line edition may lack the youthful spped it would seem to need on Paper...but with the experience the new d-crew could have or may make many of the speedsters of the eastern conference think carefully of how they want to try and get past them on the blue line...as Walker and well as LaRose loved to hit and check Malkin& Crosby at the line a lot...may not have been as sucessful as we fans would have liked...but there were times during last season when that kind of "aggressive " play can slow them down & interupt their stride and rythem...But we the fans just have to wait...sigh..esteban rolls off looks at the calender and marks off yet another day...

Go Canes !!

revamped blue line

While I feel that Dennis made great strides last season and Anton was an offensive revelation, I don't think they will be sorely missed. Adding Ward and Alberts adds physical strength so it will be easier dealing with forwards setting up shop in front of Cam. My biggest concern is the speed factor that teams like Pittsburgh can offer. Can Ward, Alberts, or even Nic have the speed necessary to get back on defense? Malkin is extremely fast and strong, and Crosby is extremely elusive. The team that should worry us more is Philly. From top to bottom they have the most physical team. 

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Luke has worked for The N&O since 2000. He covered the Carolina Hurricanes and the NHL before becoming a sports columnist in August 2008. A native of Evanston, Ill., he graduated from the University of Pennsylvania. He can be reached at (919) 829-8947, @LukeDeCock on Twitter or luke.decock@newsobserver.com.
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