LOS ANGELES -- Some losses sting a lot more than others. For the Carolina Hurricanes, this was one of those losses.
The Canes lost a two-goal lead Friday. They lost a defenseman to injury. In the end, they lost to the Los Angeles Kings in overtime 4-3 at the Staples Center, which had been mostly silent much of the game.
Michal Handzus, who began the game with a goal in the first minute, ended it for the Kings. His goal at 3:21 of overtime gave Los Angeles its second straight win and the Canes a second straight loss.
For the Canes, a strong second period was for naught. Carolina, down 1-0 after the first, got goals from Ryan Bayda, Dan LaCouture and Matt Cullen to seemingly take charge only to have the Kings rally and win.
"When you're up 3-1, there's no reason you should lose the game," Bayda said. "For whatever reason we came out a little flat in the third and they were jumping."
The Canes lost defenseman Frantisek Kaberle in the second period when Kaberle blocked a shot by Kyle Quincey. Canes coach Peter Laviolette said Kaberle may have suffered a foot fracture.
In the second, Bayda scored off a deflection of a Niclas Wallin shot and LaCouture redirected another Wallin shot for a score. Cullen scored when an Eric Staal shot from the slot appeared to hit off his skate and elude Kings goalie Jason LaBarbera.
Getting all the bounces? Canes defenseman Dennis Seidenberg didn't think so.
"We earned those bounces," Seidenberg said. "We got the puck to the net and we had guys in front of the net screening. When you do that, you get those kind of bounces."
But the Kings got a timely goal from with two minutes to play in the second on Dustin Brown's 35-foot blast from the slot. That made it 3-2 and woke up a slumbering crowd of 14,194.
"That closed it to one and maybe gave them a little bit of momentum," Laviolette said. "We talked about coming out and trying to be strong and staying on our toes and on the attack in a third period and we didn't. We were sitting back a little bit too much and they evened it up."
Anze Kopitar's goal at 10:41 of the third, on a backhand, tied the score 3-3.
"The first two periods we were pretty good and we came out in the third flat for some reason," Canes forward Brandon Sutter said. "For whatever reason we sat back in the third and let them back in the game."
The Canes had a chance to win with 3:38 left in overtime. On a two-on-one rush, Whitney made a crisp pass to Staal breaking in from the left, but LaBarbera knocked away Staal's backhand.
Handzus then got the puck after a Carolina turnover, skated in and wristed a shot past goalie Cam Ward.
"We had an opportunity and didn't bury it and they had an opportunity and buried it," Laviolette said.
Canes forward Zach Boychuk made his NHL debut and had 9:21 of ice time in the first two periods. Boychuk did not play in the third.
"I thought it was fine," Laviolette said of Boychuk's play. "It's a lot for a young kid coming in. I thought he did a good job.
"We trimmed it down to three lines in the third period and it limited his ice time after the second, but it was a good starting point for him, I think."
The Canes were unable to score on five power plays against the Kings, who have killed off all 19 penalties this season.
Both teams had their chances at the end of the third. Staal had a pair of short-handed shots, and Rod Brind'Amour and Matt Cullen nearly teamed up on a go-ahead goal, with LaBarbera making a key save.
Handzus scored 56 seconds into the game for a 1-0 lead that stood up the rest of the first. Wayne Simmonds chased down the puck after a collision with Joni Pitkanen in the Canes' zone, then passed to Handzus sweeping in on goalie Cam Ward.
"It's happened a couple of games now where we've come out and we've given the other team something," Laviolette said. "On the road, you really need to keep it simple in the first period. It was just a mistake that happened and it ended up in the back of our net."
The Canes' third goal initially was credited to Cullen, then given to Whitney, then back to Cullen in a flurry of scoring changes.
"Things didn't go our way in the third," Sutter said. "I don't think we competed hard enough to win in the third."
Staal was taken to the locker room after suffering what appeared to be a right shoulder injury 10 minutes into the game. He returned to the bench late in the first period and was soon back in the game.
The Canes will face the Anaheim Ducks on Sunday in the second of six straight road games before returning to Raleigh.

A Raleigh native, Chip has worked at the N&O since 1979 and is the Canes beat writer. He can be reached at
Comments
Chill people
Sat, 10/18/2008 - 15:23 — Jared (not verified)Get a grip people. We are four games into the season. Canes have more points so far than the Penguins, Stars, Flames, Avalanche, Ducks, and Flyers and the same as the Senators and Red Wings who were all playoff teams last year. Granted they have not playing well but are still getting points.
Points are good
Sun, 10/19/2008 - 12:06 — Anonymous (not verified)We just need two at a time. Score 4 and give up 6 in a game equals "no" points.
As for blame, it's time. Win a cup and not make it two years in a row to the PO's? Come on man, it IS time to start pointing fingers. No other team EVER has pulled off that little wonder. Gonna try for a third year? We have scrambled the team, it's not working. So what's left? Coach/Mng./Owners.
I figure the owners ain't going anywhere, so that leaves the front office. I think the marketing pukes should get whacked. Other than that they are adequate.
Then the coaching staff/trainers. JR is already on the trainers. Minor coaching changes already.
I'd like to see a major turn over and turn around.
We lost to the Kings for Pete's sake. If you can't maintain a lead, keep up moral, conduct a plan to succeed in one of the worst teams.
It's time to blame. It's time to turn the ship around.
what about the trainer
Sat, 10/18/2008 - 14:49 — Lackey17 (not verified)maybe the trainer needs to be replaced to help prevent these injuries on/off the ice. Lets get back to basics ... dump and go, hit hard, short 45 second shifts so we have something in the tank !
You missed the trainer thread (and other thoughts)
Sun, 10/19/2008 - 12:23 — JRs_FaultWe had the 'blame the trainer' thread a month ago... now the mob is circling Brindy & Laviolette, stay tuned, JR, you're next if this forum holds true to its history....
C'mon folks... yes, this team hasn't looked great, but has managed 5 pts in 4 games... if you haven't done the math, that's a 100pt+ pace. Do the math for the Rangers and the Flyers, and you see two even more drastic pictures... one up, one down. The case remains, most reasonable front office guys wait until ~20 games to make drastic moves (see Brian Burke, ignore dolts like Don Waddell)
I for one, will take a 100pt. pace through a portion of the season where we are still building the chemistry (see Corvo's comments in a more recent blog entry) and we're without several key players (see just about any blog entry since Williams went down).
Every team wins some they shouldn't, and loses some they shouldn't. They came back and pulled the first couple out of the loss column, and could've beat the Wings (in a game they couldn't count on a win anyway) and should've beat LA, but only managed a point. It's way too early to light the torches, folks.
Start at the top, not the bottom
Sat, 10/18/2008 - 14:04 — Anonymous (not verified)Can Lavi. Don't care what he "did". He's enroute to a third no show in the PO's. Like him or not, he's the guy that has to make the team consistant. It's his plan, his job to motivate. This team has been hit and miss since the cup run.
I fault the coach first and foremost.
Next the "kids" you want to send back are hopefully going to be this teams future. We can't seem to keep Williams on the ice for more than a few games a year. Rod, I love ya man, but you ain't the same this year. Keep up with the face offs and I hope your game comes back, but, blow the dust off the resume and think about coaching. Maybe right here....
I don't know what is happening with Samsinov. Dudes playing his butt off and just can't get any earned gusto. Hopefully that changes soon.
That said, the D will come around. They all mostly made great individual effort. Once they get the hang of eachother I think we will see a far better and nastier D. The pieces are there.
The forward core just isn't hungry.
I think that's a fair view.
I think it's the coach first and then kick this team into action. If they don't produce start trading.
Karmanos can't afford to miss the PO's again or this team will really be in rebuild mode next year, which means several more years of this kind of hockey.
the blame game
Sat, 10/18/2008 - 16:50 — Anonymous (not verified)It's ridiculous to blame the coach or the trainer for everything that goes wrong--including accidental injuries such as the one Kaberle sustained last night. #$%& Happens!
I think the real issue is that the book on the Canes is to play them tough, so teams ratchet up their physical play and injuries often result.
Well Now
Sat, 10/18/2008 - 13:17 — esteban1949lets see what went wrong...1st period we played like we had lead in our feet instead of skates...and the Defence was or acted like they forgot how to handle the stick...and there didn't seem to be any leadership showing how to fore,poke check...but we know how to slash and board folks...and it maybe time to seek what Micheal Leighton can do...and give Cam's version of the " butterfly' a rest...
heck if you wanted a good fight...Gilies got a couple of 5 min.majors...even though the first fight was the best...and the Rats won too...but still even they have a ways to go defencivly as well...
Go Canes !! Please ????
Detroit Red Wings has the
Sat, 10/18/2008 - 11:30 — Anonymous (not verified)Detroit Red Wings has the same number of points that the Hurricanes have at this point. I wonder if their fans gripe as much as the fair-weather fans do down here in the south.
Why is it that when some
Sat, 10/18/2008 - 13:21 — Anonymous (not verified)Why is it that when some fans have a problem with how the team plays, they are called "fair weather fans"?
A fair weather fan would be somebody who stops watching or stops going to games because the team isn't winning. We are just pointing out what the team is doing wrong, because we would liket o see them start winning.
I would rather watch a losing team that puts for all the effort that they can muster, than a winning team that has a much effort as the Hurricanes. Really, I just can't believe how little they seem to care in the first few minutes of a game.
And one more thing. Learn to pass the freaking puck. This has got to be the worst passing team in the entire NHL. All we do is chuck the thing up the ice or throw it out in front of the net to the man who isn't there. You'd think PROFESSIONAL HOCKEY PLAYERS would be able to handle a pass.
AMEN. If I see Ray
Sat, 10/18/2008 - 16:03 — Anonymous (not verified)AMEN.
If I see Ray Whitney attempt to split the d instead of making a simple pass one more time I'm going to scream.
As for the person who commented the "juniors experiment" should end: he's been one of the best & most consistent players so far! Thank the good Lord we have a responsible player like Brandon Sutter in the lineup. After 1 game I can't make any fair assessment of Boychuk.
Besides the issues that have already been pointed out by some, this team is one of the softest in the NHL. I'm not talking about fighting. I'm talking about be willing to take a hit to make a play instead of turning away. I'm talking about being willing to finish a check, fight for the puck. Playing with physicality. Regardless of what a few of those guys think - and let me be clear, I am not referring to Eric Staal (who has played very well) - they are not oh-so-skilled that they can play pond hockey & win games.
The other team I root for is San Jose. The Sharks have players who are over 5'10" & are actually willing to hit & be hit. After watching their game against Anaheim last night I have to wonder how many Canes will actually leave the Honda Center alive.
Please get over yourself &
Sat, 10/18/2008 - 12:56 — Anonymous (not verified)Please get over yourself & don't pretend you know more than you do. Red Wings fans are NOT happy with start of the team, and Hurricanes fans shouldn't be happy with that loss. Just b/c you live in the south you should be happy you get anything at all, right? Go away.
Canes
Sat, 10/18/2008 - 11:05 — SMac (not verified)Before everyone throws this team under the bus, remember this was only the 4th game with more RW injuries than is lawfull. This is no excuse - But what are you going to do ! Do we make a dumb trade that may or may not work ? We are already playing with AHL players ( bayda, lacature, sutter, brookbank ) So why not try Zac out for 10 games, before you send him to juniors. He looked good last night and will benefit from the experience.
I/m curious who would you bring up from the AHL ? Please don't say Conboy because you like the way he fights. That does not put points on the board.
The bottom line is that this
Sat, 10/18/2008 - 10:06 — Anonymous (not verified)The bottom line is that this team is not that good. the D is still suspect and that was evident on all 4 of LA's goals. Clearing the zone and turnovers continue to be the issue, just like last year. The PP last night was abysmal. I think they only managed 2 shots on 6 PP.
This team has now had 3 close games against bottom dwelling teams in the league, giving up 11 goals to those teams. Something has to change before this gets out of control.....
Hey you on the window ledge
Sat, 10/18/2008 - 09:12 — Steve C in Hillsborough (not verified)go ahead and jump! Four games in and we have points in all but one? Could be worse FWFs... I'm as worried as the next guy about possible holes in this lineup and the admitted lack of effort torques the heck outta me when I think how much of my disposable income and time I devote to the organization... so I may end up wanting more stump time than anyone at the end of the month...but not yet. Panic moves, giving up on your plan, etc., is not the answer. Hoping that a certain Captain and Coach can get on the same page fast and lead, is.
Little veteran effort
Sat, 10/18/2008 - 08:47 — Anonymous (not verified)"Things didn't go our way in the third," Sutter said. "I don't think we competed hard enough to win in the third."
Yep, kind of expected the team would take this one for granted...the rookie saw it.
Four games, and the opponent
Sat, 10/18/2008 - 08:22 — ctillFour games, and the opponent has scored first four times. Gonna be a long season if this keeps up.
If we can't even beat the
Sat, 10/18/2008 - 01:45 — Anonymous (not verified)If we can't even beat the kings we ain't going to do so good this year
Embarassing!
Sat, 10/18/2008 - 01:44 — W Stout (not verified)Losing to the worst team in the league.
1. Stop the JUNIORS experiment. Bring in the AHLer's.
2. Consider doing what Chicago just did...hint hint.
Disagree on almost all of that
Sun, 10/19/2008 - 12:38 — JRs_FaultLA is not the worst team in the league... put their roster next to Atlanta's and see what you come up with. I hope you're right though, we don't need a second straight #1 pick in the SE, not to mention Ovie a few years back.
I was also dubious about Brandon coming out of pre-season, but he's been one of the brightest spots on the team, and I'll be shocked if he ever plays in Juniors again (much less the AHL, once he's of age). I'm already on record here questioning the wisdom of rushing Zach into action this weekend.
Oh, ok, let's hire in an ex-coach and call him a scout for a month while we let the coach sweat, and wait until our team wins its first game to can him, oh and by the way Scot ty Bowman is in the wings behind Quenneville, so I doubt he's looking to sign a Chicago mortgage anytime soon.... class act.
EFFORT EFFORT EFFORT!!
Sat, 10/18/2008 - 01:27 — Anonymous (not verified)Some players need to start showing some effort on the ice. Sports is the only profession where you can have a half-assed effort and still earn your paycheck. You think they would've learned from the past two years, or maybe even the past three games, that you need a full 60 minute effort to win the game.
It's pretty sad when the majority of our offense came from Wallin, Bayda, and LaCouture. Nothing against those players, but they don't really put up big numbers. Especially Wallin who is supposed to be our defensive defenseman.
We better wipe the floor with Anaheim from the first minute to the last, because this will be another season out of the playoffs if we continue this trend. This game did nothing but frustrate me. The only hope I have is for a future team that includes a more experience Sutter and Boychuk.
Agree. Possibly a leadership
Sat, 10/18/2008 - 09:48 — Anonymous (not verified)Agree. Possibly a leadership problem??? Are we a Brindy team or a Staal team? Are we a contender or are we building for the future? And, I hate to say this, is Staal the kind of leader we want for the future given his inconsistency effortwise. As a season ticket holder who paid 30% more this year they better do a lot better this year or else - not sure what "else" is yet but i will be pissed.
????
Fri, 10/17/2008 - 22:57 — Anonymous (not verified)Why does this team get off to such terrible starts? What is wrong with this team? Sometimes it is to embarassing to watch them even play.
top 3 lines
Fri, 10/17/2008 - 19:15 — Anonymous (not verified)No Jam! No Forecheck!