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Triangle cable-TV viewers could start a new year without channels such as FX, Fuel, Speed TV and Fox Soccer.

Media giants News Corp. and Time Warner Cable are fighting over money, and the dispute could lead to some Fox channels going dark on Jan. 1. The two companies are still in negotiations and their current contract expires Dec. 31.

News Corp. today began warning Time Warner Cable customers about the "very likely possibility" that they will lose access to Fox programming.

In some markets where News Corp. owns the local Fox stations, the dispute could affect Fox's flagship channel, home to popular shows such as "Glee," "House" and "American Idol."  

But the Triangle's Fox 50 affiliate is owned by Raleigh-based Capitol Broadcasting and is not part of the dispute, said Time Warner Cable spokeswoman Melissa Buscher.

The bickering could lead to local cable customers losing other channels owned by News Corp., including FX, home to shows such as "Nip/Tuck," "Damages" and "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia." Other channels include Fuel, Speed TV, Fox Reality and Fox Sports World Espanol.

"We're hoping Fox will allow us to carry the programming even if negotiations continue past Dec. 31," Buscher said. "It's our hope that Fox won't punish our customers while they try to reach an agreement."

Fox Sports South, which shows some ACC games, isn't affected, Buscher said.

Scott Grogin, a spokesman with Fox Networks Group, confirmed that Fox 50 and Capitol Broadcasting aren't part of the transmission dispute, but declined further comment on whether other Fox channels could go dark.

Time Warner Cable will look for replacement programming for the channels if they are pulled, Buscher said. And the company will "educate" viewers about other ways to see shows, such as online streaming.

The cable provider serves more than 800,000 customers in the market that stretches from Raleigh to the coast.

The company, one of the country's largest cable-TV providers, recently started its own marketing campaign where it asked customers to vote whether it should "roll over or get tough" with broadcasters and programmers that are demanding more money. Those higher fees would result in costs passed on to customers, Time Warner argues.

News Corp. contends in a prepared statement it is "simply asking for fair compensation for the impressive value our Fox programming offers."

Earlier this month, Time Warner Cable announced that it reached a one-year extension of its transmission deal with Sinclair Broadcast Group. In the Triangle, that meant that cable-TV customers won't lose access to the CW and MyNetwork Television, two stations owned by Sinclair.

Last year, Time Warner Cable had a public spat with Viacom that nearly resulted in local customers losing access to channels such as MTV and Nickelodeon on Jan. 1. That deal was resolved at the last minute.

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TWC is Greedy

Every year Time Warner raises their rates. However, with double digit unemployment, layoffs, and seniors not getting any Social Security COLA this year, a justification for such raises is just not there. Oh, I forgot...corporate greed is there....always was, always is.

Their cable box (DVR) freezes and resets several times a week. Their channel line-up is full of spanish stations and bible-thumpers pleading for money and sales channels. Junk, all of it!

I saw AT&T lay their U-verse cable in my neighborhood.....sure hope they activate soon, I can't wait to get rid of Time Warner!!

Let em go...

There is more and more available online everyday. If they don't start making their programming more available rather than harder to get, a competitor will fill their absence.

Competition only works with

Competition only works with industries that are subject to antitrust rules.  TWC is a monopoly, despite the availability of programming via satellite which does not serve the local community needs.   It is one cable company, protected by law from competition in the same technology.  The arguments for that monopoly are that (1) customers can go to satellite and (2) it is so expensive to lay cable or fiber that no company will do it unless it is guaranteed a monopoly.  In fact, if any competitor does choose to lay lines, it will be because they think they can compete.  So let them!

Internet delivery is at best mediocre and will be for at least a few years yet and it requires a similar infrastructure so that will be subject to the same regulatory abuses we now have with TWC

THE SCHOOL BOARD!

How long before Keung Hui links this to "that EVIL new school board" ...... ???

Let us have CHANNEL CHOICE

TWC is afraid to give its customers CHANNEL CHOICE..i.e. ala carte. Majority of channels could be eliminated and TWC would also have to expose the actual amount of money they pay for each network. Let the subscribers pick what Channels they want and you would not have to battle with the networks. If Fox is putting the screws to its customers, then let it be! Drop them.

Amen!

I can't say it better. TWC is complaining about networks raising fees. Well let us choose what channels we want to see.

Time Warner is raising rates ANYWAY

My sincere hope is that "someday" the Time Warner monopoly will be totally destroyed. If Verizon FIOS and/or ATT U-Verse ever become available here (a.k.a. if they pay off the right people)Time Warner will #1 suddenly reduce their rates by 50% and #2 still lose 50% of their business. FX is a good channel. Hate to see it go but after this latest round of rate increases my combo package cost (internet, phone & television) will be close to a nearly insane $230 a month. My promotions have all expired.

My Dream World

In my dream world all channels would be served "ala carte" for each individual household and you would only receive and pay for those channels that you have selected - then we would really see what channels would survive and what ones would fail - instead we are forced into these bundled services and end up paying for dozens of channels that we never will watch - maybe I am dreaming but that would be the final solutions

Hey That Guy ...

Don't be 'that guy' and presume you know anything about quality entertainment or your neighbors' tastes. FX has two of the best sitcoms on TV (Always Sunny and The League) and frequently shows decent movies on Saturday or Sunday afternoons. FoxSoccer is a niche' channel for sure, but is enjoyed by many ... including this subscriber. If you want to ditch useless channels, look toward removing some of the 12 "Jesus" channels, or the 15 liberal, talking-head news channels.

Go A la carte for all the junk channels (all channels)

You can watch what you want, but there is no reason that TWC should
charge anyone else for what you want.  True, you have the right to
watch any garbage you want, including entertainment that maquerades as
news, but there is no reason that a monopoly should exist to force the
rest of us to pay for such "niche" channels.   I agree though that the
Jesus channels, the shopping channels, the varoius "information"
channels and the pointless "news" channels that concentrate on shallow
fluff and jingoistic incitement should be dropped (FOX and CNN,
although the former, though anti-American to the core, is at least
entertaining sometimes).  

TWC: Don't scare  people with "the
world is ending" cries.  Just sell the "niche" channels (and all the
others) a la carte.  How hard is that?  (There are things called
"computers" that can help nowadays)

TWC

You can lose the liberal crap...but keep the "Jesus channels"...if you want to watch a soccer match, go find a neighborhood where all the mexicans live and there you go!!

Let me guess...

TWC will substitute even worse programming and still likely raise prices!

TWC

Having switched from DTV to TWC, I have had the opportunity to compare quality and performance first hand. While the content is roughly the same, DTV was cheaper. The big difference is the signal reliability and technical support. Generally, the reliability and signal quality is very good at DTV except for the fading that occurs in a heavy rainstorm. TWC seems to have frequent problems with signal loss and service provisioning. Premium content is often unavailable, or they are rebooting the receivers for some headend problem. The CSR personnel are so poorly trained that they seem to be incompetent in handling customer service. The level of interruption and problem solving requiring my attention is many times higher with TWC than DTV. (I'm glad I did not give them my ISP and Telephone business!) Time to switch to AT&T I think and see if they are any better. I would be switching providers anyway, but raising their rates is just another reason to leave TWC.

Punishment?

Buscher said. "It's our hope that Fox won't punish our customers while they try to reach an agreement." Oh puleeeze!! The shows on these channels (and having to pay for them at all) is the real punishment!  Does anybody really want these garbage channels that only exist to increase the channel count?  Anybody?  

Nothing but a money grab on

Nothing but a money grab on both sides. Raise the panic level amongst the end customer. You don't think that either of these outfits much cares about what the end users desire is, reduce the rates.

If TWC doesn't carry any of these for weeks, Media's advertiser are on there back sides for the exposre they paid for. All either is looking for is the ability to raise rates and get the customer to beg both to keep the channels lit.

Please stop covering these

Please stop covering these stories. It happens every time the channels are up for renegotiation. By covering this, you're just creating fear and playing into the hands of the networks and cable companies. Let them battle this out without us.

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Assistant Business Editor Alan M. Wolf joined the N&O in 1999 covering the business of health care. He became an editor in 2001, and helps oversee the paper's daily business coverage and Sunday Work&Money section. He lives in Clayton with his wife and two children. Reach him at 919-829-4572 or e-mail him.
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