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DPS board member Kainz: standardized test critics engage in 'hypocrisy'

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Durham Public Schools Board of Education member Dr. Kirsten Kainz offered strong words at the board's meeting last night to critics of standardized tests and the Reading Street curriculum.

Kainz made a lengthy statement before offering an update on elementary instruction initiatives. She also directly responded to parents who spoke earlier about their concerns over Durham's emphasis on testing and the Reading Street curriculum. These parents brought up the school district's ties with the Broad Foundation, a controversial group that trains and awards large amounts of money to reform school districts - especially in urban areas. (I'll do a separate post on Broad tomorrow.)

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"I want to talk about our culture of testing. The culture of testing is not defined by Durham Public Schools. And I can think of a time in my life that wasn’t too long ago where I had very little value for standardized testing. And perhaps some fundamental disagreements with standardized testing and some informed, fundamental disagreements with standardized testing borrowing from some authors we might have heard referenced tonight.

There was a certain point where I knew there was hypocrisy to my rejection of standardized testing. That hypocrisy I recognized in myself I often hear when listening to the critics of standardized testing, and I want to share that.

The hypocrisy that I identified in myself was that my living wage, my ability to go on vacation, the neighborhood where I can purchase a home, the safety and health of my children are all benefits of my social status that have been conferred to me from two sources: one, the family I was born into and two, my performance on standardized tests.

When I applied to college, I didn’t say: 'You know what? I participated in an enriched curriculum, and I am a unique and special individual. I am too dignified to show you my SAT score on this application. You will have to accept me on my statement of personal worth.'
When I applied to graduate school, I didn’t have the guts to say: 'You know what University of North Carolina, I’d like you to take me because I'm a deep thinker. I'm a rich participant in my community. I have an expansive vocabulary. No, I showed them my GRE scores.
And my social network, people who are lawyers showed their LSAT scores. The people who went to Fuqua showed their GMAT scores. My physician showed his MCAT scores. That’s the way it works in this society. It doesn’t have to work that way forever, but it’s the way it works now.

To sit in my position of relative social comfort and fail to work for a system that can not only enrich the educational experience of its students but also improve the test scores of its students is to reap the benefits of my society while simultaneously denying them to other people.
And its not just any other people. It’s not the people who live next door to me. I’ll be honest, in Durham, it’s the people who live on the East side of Durham. It’s the people who live on the East side of Durham primarily, and I think we’re done with that.


I want to talk about standardized testing as both a stepping stone and a stumbling block. Stumbling block is pretty clear and well communicated in our society. The stepping stone is not so clear. When we talk about the Aldine School District [in Texas] that recently won the Broad Prize [for Urban Education], and we realize that their SAT scores went down over the past five years. There’s a reason why the SAT scores went down. It’s because people who 20 years ago never woud've had the chance to take the SAT are now taking the SAT in Aldine, Texas. That’s a very important point for us to discuss and for us to be aware of.

The burden our generation has inherited is a stiff one. Thirty years ago, it was easier to sweep people under the rug. Thirty years ago, it was easier for us to push them into special education. It was easier to push them into education tracks where their performance was not being evaluated. I don’t think we've reached the final point in developing a quality education program for all students in the United States. And I don’t think our current testing program is the best it will ever be. I think there are many improvements to be made. But the burden that my generation has inherited is that we can't sweep the children under the rug anymore, and we must do right by them.

We talk about the achievement gap often. We talk about the achievement gap based on standardized tests. That’s how we define the achievement gap, that’s the only reason we know there’s a gap because of the standardized tests. The burden of my generation is to eradicate the achievement gap. The problem is we might not have the tests that will help us to do that. Again, the burden of my generation. But something to think about as we think about testing.

I am much more reluctant in my public life to criticize standard testing because I am daily aware the benefit my society confers on me based on my test scores, my husband’s test scores, my family’s test scores. But [in Durham] we’re going to use those test scores as a marker for awhile."

Kainz closed up by talking about the elementary departments and emphasizing that standardized tests would continue being used.

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Effectiveness of Benchmark Testing

Rather than discussing the reasons for administering Benchmark testing, we should be asking about the quality of the tests. We parents should be asking to actually see these tests. It's horrifying. I have seen these tests, evaluated them and have found them completely lacking: Questions with unclear or multiple answers, math tests that have questions that are from curriculum 1 to 2 grades higher than where the students are, a subject benchmark with questions taken directly from the NY Regents exam with no attempt to actually align them with the NC Curriculum. THESE tests are a complete waste of time. Teacher give up an average of NINETEEN teaching days to administer tests with questionable validity. THAT is the real crime of this situation. If we are going to require students to undergo this constant testing, the least DPS can do it to provide tests that are reliable and valid. That has yet to happen, and so these tests are useless diagnostically.

And, Yesu - The results for the Benchmark tests are often given well after the unit they assess has passed. Even if your child's teacher wanted to slow down and remediate for the students in the class, he/she is bound by a rigid DPS written pacing guide and could face repercussions of he/she falls behind in the teaching of this pacing guide.

Good analysis. Teachers are

Good analysis. Teachers are provided results of student performance that include exactly what questions, thus what specific content knowledge/skill is lacking. 1) There is a period of time before EOC exams during which those may be revisited. 2) Part of the art of teaching is to remediate/reteach (thus differentiate) while moving the class forward.

What evidence indicates "questionable validity?" Such a charge isn't normally made, or at least taken seriously, without evidence. With respect to evidence: bottom line should be trends in EOC/EOG performance, no?

On a personal note: No one's a fan of excessive standardized testing--INCLUDING ME. On the other hand, the subject of testing is a convenient way to jump on the "trash public education bandwagon" (not your comment). That irks me even more.

Disingenuous and Frustrating

So who exactly are these kids showing their benchmark scores to in order to get ahead in society? How exactly is the testing that we are subjecting these kids to comparable to SATs or GREs? This is a complete red herring.

KK is being very dismissive of the parents who express these concerns, and that is what I find most frustrating. These are parents who care enough about public education to take the time to say "Hey - something is not working here, no matter what your intentions were." They want to make the schools better for all children in Durham. Why on earth would you want to completely shut them out? Shouldn't we at least engage in a dialogue about this? Both sides might learn something.

the race card

It's always so ironic when white people pull the race card on each other. How does KK think that she's engaging parents when she's talking down to them? Does the board not realize that the parents that are keeping silent about the curriculum change are the same parents that are not engaged in their childrens' education to begin with?? It was a calculated risk - they could count on those parents to be too overwhelmed, too busy, too impoverished, and uneducated to complain about the decisions that affect their children, so it's then a very easy move to label the people who complain as hysterical, over-educated, limousine liberals with too much time on their hands.Her argument about standardized testing is just a way to pull attention away from the extremely poor decision-making that lead to the 11th-hour implementation of a flawed curriculum mandate. Parents who are talking about this and hoping to engage the district in thoughtful dialogue are not talking about standardized testing. They are upset about a curriculum that is devoted to test-taking skills, memorization and regurgitation. We are upset about a framework with very little time for social studies, science and physical activity. We believe that children who have a strong vocabulary and strong critical thinking skills do well on standardized tests, and we disagree with the district on how to achieve that for all children. Shaming us and calling us elitists is not the way to engage us in thoughtful public dialogue. But good luck with your future in politics! Your statements and leadership style are reminiscent of the past 8 years of national politics and we are putting those years behind us.

unrealistic, perhaps- but NOT hypocritical

To suggest that public education should teach our children more than
how to take one specific test.

To believe that there are other more comprehensive ways to monitor progress than with incessant bubble sheets. Once or twice a year- fine. Monthly= drilling and takes away from teaching time.

To want a quality, well rounded (including math, reading, science, social studies, music, art and recess) education for all of our school children
may be dreamy, unrealistic and expensive but to call this hypocrisy is propagandist.

I see it as symbolic that 30 years ago DC public schools were good enough for Amy Carter. Today after massive urban education "reform" they are no where near adequate for Malia and Sasha Obama. They attend a Friends school. It does not make me a hypocrite to believe that we need to maintain a strong, effective public school system that allows all children access to a quality education. It is not elitist to think that test scores should reflect the end result of real learning and should not be the primary mission in themselves.

Check out the school "reform" that Arne Duncan brough to Chicago and please tell me that this in not the model for change at DPS. I am hard pressed to see that very many of the inner city children are benefitting from his swift destruction of their school system.

The complexity of denial

Kirsten Kainz is an interesting case of someone smart enough to get where she is, yet no smart enough to stop digging when the hole gets too deep. Proof that performing well in test scores might not be the panacea.
On her point, here:
1/ Parents have never argued doing away with test scores, they just say that testing in Durham has gone out of control, with more than a month of the school year that children spend on testing, notably due to self imposed Durham specific benchmarks tests. We already have State and federally mandated tests. That is probably plenty in order to assess where students are, unless we rejoice ourselves of creating a Brave New World society where PHds who have never stepped in a classroom (or way too long ago) think that they can micro manage teaching from testing data. Such a situation, teaching to the test, is also of course a God sent opportunity for administrators hungry for always more power and rewards but otherwise challenged by No Child Left Behind.
2/ K.K. forces me to question the validity of her PHd in education when she writes "That’s how we define the achievement gap, that’s the only reason we know there’s a gap because of the standardized tests." I am sorry that it will be apparently news to her that experienced teacher (and until they leave the system due to people like K.K. there are plenty in Durham) are always able to predict fairly accurately how students are going to perform on tests, they know of the achievement gap well before the tests.
I have mentioned "denial" in the title of this comment, because we know that K.K. is not honest. We know that she was instrumental in D.P.S. ordering its audit, and then mandating Reading Street. We now can observe that since parents have raised serious concerns about the wisdom of D.P.S. new program, she has been extremely defensive, dismissive really. Hubris is a world that has been associated with her name recently.

Dear Complexity

Dear Complexity,

Your argument #1 does not hold water. The DPS tests are diagnostic, i.e. indicate what students know so that remediation can take place.  The the state tests are summative, i.e. happen at the end of the course, at which time the teacher and student can do nothing to reteach/remediate.

Your argument #2 is an ad hominem attack, another sieve of an argument, adding nothing of value.

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Sadia Latifi has been a reporter for The News & Observer since June 2009. She currently covers the town of Cary. E-mail her.
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