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N.C. State's C.J. Leslie (5) drives to the basket against Youngstown State's Dan Boudler (33) during first half. MICHAEL MCLOONE - newsobserver.com

RALEIGH -- Youngstown State wasn’t supposed to be this tough.

The Penguins, a team from Ohio that plays in the Horizon League, banged, hustled, scraped and knocked down shots from everywhere on the court in the first half at the RBC Center, forcing N.C. State to climb back from an 18-point first-half deficit to claim a weary-eyed 67-50 victory.

For much of the game, State (6-3) counted on freshman C.J. Leslie, who finished with 14 points and a season-high 19 rebounds. He bullied his way to boards and turned them into offense, driving coast-to-coast for layups or drawing fouls on put-backs.

“My role on this team is to bring the energy,” said Leslie, who played 28 minutes and sparked his team’s rally in the first half.

Fellow freshman Ryan Harrow, coming off a career-high 20-point performance against USC Upstate, made a 3-pointer with 8 minutes, 44 seconds remaining to pull State even for the second time in the game.

Two plays later, Harrow attacked the basket, drew a foul and made two free throws to give the Wolfpack a two-point lead, one it held on to, fending off an inspired Penguins squad that clearly walked into the arena with the intention of clipping an ACC team.

That’s until State reversed its first-half shooting woes. A 3-pointer by sophomore forward Scott Wood with 3:36 remaining and two free throws by senior guard Javier Gonzalez gave the Pack a 10-point lead – and some, only some, space to breathe late in the second half.

State helped itself from the free throw line, converting 18 of 26 free throw attempts in the second half. It closed out the Penguins over a seven-minute span with a 21-3 run, capped by a layup by sophomore DeShawn Painter with 1:04 left.

Harrow finished with 14 points and two assists in 18 reserve minutes, while Gonzalez added 11 points. Harrow was 9-for-10 from the free throw line.

State, which allowed their opponents to shoot 42.9 percent in the first half, limited the Penguins to 22.2 percent shooting from the floor in the second half. They stuck hands in faces and pressured the Penguins.

Younstown State’s Vytas Sulskis scored a team-high 14 points and grabbed 10 rebounds.

“It was two halves of basketball,” Youngstown State coach Jerry Slocum said. “You’re not going to shoot 22 percent in the second half and come into a building like this and beat a talented team like they are.”

The Penguins (5-5) surged to a 20-3 lead over State and silenced the announced crowd of 9,071 at the RBC Center in the first half.

Sharing the basketball and pumping in jump shots, the Penguins abused the Pack’s man-to-man defense and never blinked as they went into halftime ahead 34-21.

State shot 6-for-25 from the field in the first half – 0-for-6 from 3-point range – and at times had little movement in its motion offense.

The Pack lacked intensity and, for some parts of the game, it lacked respect.

“Let’s give these guys credit,” Lowe said. “ That’s one thing as a basketball player they don’t do enough of – they don’t give teams credit. ... In the second half, we gave them more credit and we kept the ball moving and we didn’t force shots. And then our defense is really what did it for us.”

Leslie, who started in his sixth game of the season, did what he could to lift his team.

With a mentality to attack the basket, he scored nine consecutive points at the end of the first half to help the Pack pull to within 10 points of the Penguins.

Leslie followed a missed layup by freshman Lorenzo Brown with a dunk in the lane. He followed that dunk with a drive and layup with 1:07 remaining.

Lowe said Leslie’s performance on Thursday showed growth from earlier games where he attacked the basket with ineffective one-on-one moves. This time, however, Leslie grabbed rebounds and allowed them to guide his offense.

“There was a point there where he just decided I’m going to get it,” Lowe said. “When he got the rebound, he pushed the ball down the floor. He had two tip-ins. ... He did it in the right way. ... He went to the offensive boards and he made a difference there and he made a difference defensively.”

Leslie noted his growth.

“I’m just know getting into the flow of everything,” he said. “It’s coming slowly but surely. I’m just allowing myself the time to get better. That’s what it’s about. I can do more. ... Right now, I’m just allowing myself to slowly adjust to the college game, with coach’s help. It’s very big that me and him see eye-to-eye.”

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Its obvious that BD still

Its obvious that BD still attracts the top prospects because of his track record of developing players for the NFL. Despite the "mess" there will be a lot of UNC in the draft this year.. Also we have one of the best defensive coaches in the country. That does not hurt. Now if we could just make an adjustment at O-Coordinator we might get somewhere.,. Plus, and lets face it, Chapel Hill is a great place to be in school.

Haters not allowed

Shoop

Why will BD not get rid of this guy? Granite, TJ had as big a year throwing the ball than anyone, but there were still lulls in the offense when the Heels had leads or did not. GT 2nd half comes to mind.

Texas and Heels

Posting here because there is excrement on the UNC story thread
Again only 12 turnovers. This team is starting to take much better care of the ball.

Agree

I liked the effort, we were in it, but just a little weak down the stretch.

Update

Travis Hughes: Welcome to Carolina

Boom

This is huge, no doubt.

Is this the 5 star

LB out of Virginia Beach !?

Gosh, I wonder why the 4th rated LB in the country wants to come to a football program that's gettin' the death penalty !?

Yes

However, only TOB knows the answer to your question.

Tob

He couldn't recruit a 5 star if his life depended on it.

Life Saver

He recruited Robert Crisp just last year. He was ranked a 5-star.

Robert Crisp

Wasn't he already a big state fan and an o-lineman. Not a lot of recruiting there.

Downplay

Down it all you want; that is your specialty, TOB still recruited a 5-star guy just last year. 

Besides, don't you think a player being a fan of a certain school recruiting him plays as big a factor as anything during the process? Duh. 

Go ahead. Give a silly reply concluded with a homophobic pun; that is another of your specialties. 

Is this the 5 star

LB out of Virginia Beach !?

Gosh, I wonder why the 4th rated LB in the country wants to come to a football program that's gettin' the death penalty !?

Gotta love it

Bring on Savon Huggins.  I know people are obsessing over their hopes of us getting these ridiculous sanctions, but I'm optimistic.  This program is going to be alright.

Huggins

Savon would be a great pick up, but I think perhaps a stretch at this point, unless MW can convince him. Otherwise, we may be third or fourth on Huggins' list.

Yeah

Not sure where we stand right now. He was real high on us a couple weeks ago, but just visited Auburn.  Knock on wood.

Hard to tell

He liked his visit to Auburn, but it is a little farther away. He is in Rutgers' back yard, but I know he enjoyed his visit at UNC back in October, as well. Like I said, he would be a great pick up and would make a significant impact at UNC. 

Oh, by the way

Oh, by the way fellas...

What happened to all the talk about how UNC fans don't give a $hit (yes, that's a Roy pun) about NC State...especially in bball?

Go figure, they show up in good numbers to talk about an NCSU/Youngstown St game in mid-December...

I have no real opinion on

I have no real opinion on the game, I am just amused by the term "scrappy penguins".

Thumbs up

The best comments are always short and sweet.

don't get me started

Our minor league baseball team is the Mahoning Valley Scrappers.

here goes

First, I am proud of the way my Penguins showed up in the first half. They have struggled big-time on the road this year, just like we saw in the second half of this game. But they came ready to play from the outset, and the Pack obviously expected a cake walk.

I am not totally surprised by the way this game turned out. Jerry Slocum is a great coach who has a tough job trying to recruit players to YSU. Last years team underachieved and virtually the entire team turned over this year, with a couple of key exceptions, including Sulskis. Problem is that the Penguins can be competitive, but have trouble sustaining it for an entire game. I was surprised they were able to take a double-digit lead, but not surprised they ended up blowing it.

Now some random thoughts on the Pack:

1. Lowe flat out got outcoached today. Slocum has a bunch of new players who are not as highly touted as the Pack's newcomers. Yet, in the first half especially, YSU was the better team. The Pack looked like a bunch of playground players. I don't know what Sid has to do to get his guys to be more patient from the get go and bring more intensity on defense. It better happen before Sunday or Arizona will run them out of the RBC Center.

2. I'm not sure what to make of Leslie. He was horrible at the start of the game. His numbers ended up great and E.G. Robinson thought he was great. I'm not so sure. I will give him credit for hitting the boards, which he does well and the Pack sorely needs that. But he seems like he has to have the ball in his hands and he forces things when they don't need to be forced. He is reminding me of JJ Hickson, and I don't mean that in a good way.

3. Richard Howell still seems to be struggling. He makes to many mental errors and his body language is showing frustration more often than not. I don't know what his problem is, but I expected a lot more from him after the way he finished last season.

4.The best game State has played this year was at Syracuse, when Sid didn't start any of the freshmen. When they came in, they were ready to go and contributed to a near huge upset. I think Sid needs to go back to that formula, especially when Tracy comes back. Start Tracy, Painter, Wood, CJ Williams and Javi. Bring the freshmen in later and play whoever is delivering at that point.

I don't think I have ever witnessed an uglier 17 point win. This game is the umpteenth wake up call for the Pack.  The sooner they get the message (if ever), the sooner they will approach the potential for success a lot of us think they can achieve.

diddy

u need to get a life, any body that likes penguins has got to be nuts. ihave said it time and time again  SKID has got to go, ok, go duke-champs!!!

Leslie, etc.

I share your frustration and agree with your assessment of Leslie---Shooting 4 for 10 at the foul line ain't gonna' get it done either.  Didn't see the game so I don't know what happened in the first half but outscoring them by 30 in the second half was impressive.  Maybe your sugestion re starting the "veterans" might be good, I don't know, but I agree that they have gotta' start playing as a cohesive unit, and soon.

"The sooner they get the

"The sooner they get the message (if ever), the sooner they will approach the potential for success a lot of us think they can achieve."

And the longer they take to get the message, the surer we can be that Debbie Yow will be looking for a replacement.

So, is the glass...

Half empty or half full?

Which will

(drum roll please) finally be Rick Barnes.

JPD

Actually, and cautiously predicted a bit of a fight in this game.
Exam time tune ups.

Yep, pretty much.

Yep, pretty much.

The mighty Penguins !!

What an embarrassment. I'm sure they'll get it turned around though.

Haha, gatr talking about

Haha, gatr talking about embarrassment?  What a joke.

How's that #8 ranking working out for ya?

And have they finished the review of the football team yet?

    Let me guess...when Butchie gets the can this spring, gatr will be claiming that he was one of the first to know that it was going to happen.

 

Looks like the Pack has recovered here...I'm seeing 57-47 late in the 2nd.  So, we've given up 13 points in the second half?  Nice.

#8

Yes, because this team clearly ranked itself...

Irrelevant. But I wouldn't

Irrelevant.

But I wouldn't expect the most elitist, arrogant fan base in the country to understand that.

I guess if Duke somehow doesn't make the tourney this year (just hypothetical), then they can't be considered a disappointment or embarrassment?  After all, they never ranked themselves...

mad-sax!

all we do at duke, is win , and we do it with CLASS, unlike the tarholes, all they want to do is talk how great they are, all talk no show, go DUKE-CHAMPS!

Umm

How is it an embarrassment when no one in their right minds expected this team to be #8 in the country?  How is it comparable to Dook when every rational person would put them at #1?  You're not really making sense here Maxy Max, just letting your homer side get the best of you.

Well, apparently there were

Well, apparently there were enough people that thought UNC was worthy of a #8 ranking.  Otherwise, they never would have been up there.

If you want to talk about the incompetence of the pollsters, that's fine, I agree.  But you said that they (UNC) didn't rank themselves.  So my point is simply that nobody else ranked themselves either.

My point

is that we received a #8 ranking for two reasons, and neither our coach nor our fan base took that as a realistic ranking.  We received that ranking for a couple reasons:

1. People like Pat Forde (who insists Kentucky and Louisville is the biggest rivalry in college sports) were the ones voting.  Carolina is a big name nationwide when it comes to basketball, and when national voters have minimum awareness of the teams outside of the area/conference they cover, they're more likely to give us the benefit of the doubt.

2. By the end of the season, we may not be #8, but if this team clicks (AKA combines the offense against LBSU and the defense against Kentucky), they could most certainly be a top 15 team.  While I understand we're getting way ahead of ourselves by thinking about a top 15 ranking at the end of the year, it's still definitely too early to label this team as an embarrassment.

Max emerges.........

Max emerges.........

Glad to be welcomed back,

Glad to be welcomed back, and glad you missed me!

Been a little busy the past two weeks or so, but I'm back and ready for January to get here.

Did I miss anything here at the blog?  What?  Gatr's been his usual pompus self, and we still haven't heard any resolution on the UNC scandal(s)?  Ah, no harm done then.

Glad to welcomed back !?

I don't see anywhere in the above post where unc098 was welcoming you back !? He was just recognizing that you had come back from beaver hibernation.

WELCOME BACK MAD-SAX!!!

G ALLIGATOR CALLED LAST NIGHT TO TELL ME THE GOOD NEWS , THAT U WERE BACK-WELCOME! AND A GOOD BEAVER IS HARD TO BEAT, IF U GET THE RIGHT ONE THEY ARE FINGER -LICKING GOOD.GO DUKE-CHAMPS.

Wow, I know you're not that

Wow, I know you're not that stupid gatr.  Must have been looking for an excuse to use the "beaver hibernation" line.  Nice one, by the way.  Can't say I blame you.

Little egg

On your face considering I went and replied to my own post about the updated state score.

So, how many games did y'all finish (football) ahead of the mighty depleted Heels this season, Max !?

What a douche ...

Oooooh

You replied while I was in the middle of typing my comment.  Look at the time stamp, douche.

Oh my god, for the first time ever, a Carolina fan is trying to talk about football in the midst of basketball season!  One problem chief:  your football team sucks arse and has been consistently overrated for the past 3+ years!

When was the last time those bashful blue boys beat us on the gridiron?

Yeah, nice try.  Come back anytime, douche.

Ha!

Lot of douches flying around !

Good thing I was doing some work today and not going back and forth with you. You'd a gotten bent over the barrel so to speak. You probably come weaker than any loyal follower here at ACCNow.

"your football team six arse." seriously. "sucking arse" is a term used for teams with one or two wins NoT seven.

If "sucking arse" is the term for a seven win team. What is the term for a team with just one more win? Will this term be retractEd when the pups lose to WVag and UNC stomps a mud hole in the ol' bluetick and both teams are sitting square at eight ? ...

You need to learn to think before you speak little one. A lot yet to be learned.

woulda, shoulda, coulda

Jesus, I thought you would have given up on coupling your smack talk with your lame predictions.  How many of those have you gotten right this year?  Hah, yeah...thanks to your post, I'm more confident than ever now that State will win in Orlando.

I'm using the term "sucking arse" to refer to a team that has been cheating for who knows how many years and still couldn't have a meaningful football season.

I've already learned everything that this blog has to offer;  I have indeed been rooting for the good guys for the entirity of my collegiate fandom.  You do a great job of reassuring me of that fact.

By the way, "douche" is a very fun word to say...perhaps one of my favorite.  Once you let it out of the bag, I just had to start throwin' em around.

"your football team sucks

"your football team sucks arse and has been consistently overrated for the past 3+ years!"

Come on Max, you're better than that.  This team surpassed expectations in '08, fell maybe one game short in '09, and undoubtedly surpassed expectations this season considering we were missing half our freakin' team.

And not to go out of my way to stomp all over State, but your football team just got its first winning record since Ruben Studdard was relevant.  If you had to pick the better program over the past four years during your win streak, most fans would say the Heels have been the better of the two.  Just like over Carolina's 3-game win streak from '04-'06, State was the better of the two.  Just like State was better despite losing to the Heels in '98 and '99.  I know it's hard for many State fans to comprehend, but head-to-head match-ups aren't the only way to measure which team is better than the other.

COME ON HEELS-20!

THE TAR-HOLES ARE CHEATERS!!!!

Ruben Studdard?  What is

Ruben Studdard?  What is that?  Does it come with sour kraut on it?

But seriously, it's funny...I couldn't get a single UNC fan on here to admit that State was the better team during that 3 year span you're talking about.  I guess perspectives change when the tables are turned.

As for the BD/TOB era...

Carolina was the better team last year, I'll give you that.  But the other three years are either a push or in the Pack's favor IMO.

Again though, for a fan base that claims to not care about NC State, why would they come on this thread to talk smack, and also bring up football?!?  Incredible.  I thought it was impossible to have your cake and eat it too.

For what it's worth, I do think you are an honorable fan though.  Points taken.

A couple things

In 2008, UNC was the overall better football team.  I know that State was clicking toward the end of the year with that four game win streak, but you can't just talk about the 41-10 win without brining up the 41-10 loss against USF if you're talking the whole year.  We were two wins better that season.  We had monster victories over some pretty good football teams.  State was probably the worst team in the conference until their bye week.  Not only do I think we were head and shoulders above the Pack in '09, but I think all things considered you have to look at us in '08 as a better football team.  I'll give you '07 and this year, but those years were no where near the margin in '09 and in my opinion also '08.

Our fan base isn't on here talking smack.  I made the first comment asking JPD who his dog was in this fight.  I'm personally cheering for some of these guys because I like Harrow, Brown and Smith a lot.  Also have to cheer for the Pack this weekend so Sid will still have his job at the end of the year and we can continue to push State around ;).

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Edward joined the News & Observer staff in 2004. He is a graduate of American University and Johns Hopkins University. He covers Wake Forest football and women's college basketball for the N&O. Edward is a native of Washington, D.C. He can be reached at 829-4781 or edward.robinson@newsobserver.com.
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