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Expansion killed the round-robin in basketball and created an unbalanced schedule. Each team plays five opponents twice — two of which are the designated partner (i.e. UNC's partners are Duke and N.C. State) — and then three home games and three road games.

Teams have used the unbalanced schedule to their advantage, like Virginia winning 11 ACC games in 2006-07 or Virginia Tech winning nine games last season.

In general, any team that avoids playing UNC or Duke twice is lucky. Teams that don't have to play at either the Smith Center or Cameron Indoor Stadium are also obviously catching a break.

For the 2008-09, three teams do not play either Duke or UNC twice — Boston College, Clemson and Georgia Tech.

Wake Forest, Florida State and Virginia Tech don't have to go to Chapel Hill next season, getting the Tar Heels only at home.

The unbalanced scheduling loser? Maryland, which is the only team that has to play both UNC and Duke twice.

The order and dates will be released later in August but the in-conference breakdown is as follows:

UNC

Twice: N.C. State, Duke, Miami, UVa, Md
Home only: BC, Clemson, GT
Road only: Wake, FSU, VT

Analysis: The visit to Winston-Salem might be the Heels only ACC loss next season.

N.C. State

Twice: UNC, Wake, BC, GT, Miami
Home only: FSU, UVa, Md
Road only: Clemson, Duke, VT

Analysis: Scheduling will determine the bottom six spots in the league. It will be an uphill battle for State with six games against UNC, Wake and Miami. The home only schedule presents three winnable games but the road only looks like a lost cause, despite the Wolfpack's track record against Virginia Tech. Playing Duke only at Duke doesn't help either.

Duke

Twice: UNC, FSU, Md, VT, Wake
Home only: N.C. State, UVa, Miami
Road only: BC, GT, Clemson

Analysis: I love when Mike Krzyzewski argues Duke has the toughest schedule. That's impossible because Duke can't play Duke.  Duke's Duke and another 13-3 season is there for the taking with this schedule. The home-and-home with Wake is timely and actually thoughtful of the ACC computer considering both teams will be vying for second place.

Boston College

Twice: N.C. State, Miami, VT, Wake, GT
Home only: Duke, FSU, Clemson
Road only: UNC, UVa, Md

Analysis: The Eagles won four ACC games last season so it's hard to project them as an NCAA Tournament team but with this schedule, they at least have a chance. Single games with Duke and UNC and no trip to Duke.

Clemson

Twice: GT, FSU, Wake, UVa, VT
Home only: N.C. State, Md, Duke
Road only: UNC, BC, Miami

Analysis: The world at-large is down on the Tigers after their NCAA Tournament collapse, but the pieces are there for a return trip. So is the schedule. The Tigers get Duke and UNC only once. They do have to go to Chapel Hill, a loss under any circumstance, but they should find 10 ACC wins with this schedule.

Florida State

Twice: Miami, Duke, Clemson, UVa, VT
Home only: UNC, GT, Md
Road only: N.C. State, BC, Wake

Analysis: Bonus for FSU — it doesn't go to UNC. Bonus for FSU — it has a home-and-home with Virginia. Problem for FSU — Leonard Hamilton's still the coach.

Georgia Tech

Twice: N.C. State, BC, Clemson, Md, Wake
Home only: Duke, Miami, UVa
Road only: UNC, FSU, VT

Analysis: Two years ago, the Jackets were the only ACC team to play UNC and Duke twice. That actually helped their NCAA cause — they got in at 8-8. This season, the Jackets don't have to play either heavyweight twice. That's good. The home schedule, outside of UVa, looks like a fight though but overall, the Jackets are a scheduling winner.

Maryland

Twice: UNC, UVa, GT, Duke, Miami
Home only: BC, Wake, VT
Road only: N.C. State, FSU, Clemson

Analysis: The Terps are going to be a guard-heavy team. In theory, they'd prefer to avoid home-and-homes with the bigger teams (UNC, Miami, Clemson, Wake, GT). That didn't happen. The Terps are going to have to shoot lights-out every night to finish higher than 10th.

Miami

Twice: UNC, N.C. State, BC, FSU, Md
Home only: Clemson, VT, Wake
Road only: GT, Duke, UVa

Analysis: Between Miami, Virginia Tech and Wake Forest — three teams who figure to push Duke for second place — the Canes are the only ones who get UNC twice. When you're talking about the difference between 12-4 or 11-5, there you go.

Virginia

Twice: UNC, VT, Md, FSU, Clemson
Home only: BC, Wake, Miami
Road only: N.C. State, GT, Duke

Analysis: I'm inclined to agree with Roy Williams here, the Cavaliers could play every game in Siberia next season and the location won't matter. They'll occasionally put up a fight at home but this UVa team will be lucky to win more than four ACC games.

Virginia Tech

Twice: UVa, BC, FSU, Clemson, Duke
Home only: UNC, N.C. State, GT
Road only: Md, Wake, Miami

Analysis: Getting UNC at home is a break (check last year's score at the Smith Center if you don't believe me). Given what Seth Greenberg has shown he can do, there's no reason to believe the Hokies won't win 10 or 11 ACC games.

Wake Forest

Twice: N.C. State, BC, GT, Clemson, Duke
Home only: UNC, FSU, Wake
Road only: Md, UVa, Miami

Analysis: Wake went 1-7 in the ACC on the road last season, so any game away from Winston-Salem is a challenge. If this team can get to .500 on the road, they have a chance to edge Duke for second place. The lack of a trip to UNC certainly helps.

 

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1 loss for unc

how do carolina fans get to write these articles.this team is talented but not without problems.maybe if they learn to play defense one loss may be possible or if hans learned how to pass out of the double team it could happen. remember duke played them tough and should have won both games even with a lack of size.now duke has size,depth and very atheletic players. this team also has experience which should be enough to put duke back on top of the acc where they belong.

another fine

piece of journalism from the news and observer! always unbiased and full of fact. i mean, c'mon...try to have a little respect for Duke....UNC's only potential loss of the season is WFU? Really? Yes, UNC will be very good this year, but to think their only problem lies outside of CIS? may i remind you that wojo (slow and short) and crew beat Carolina his senior year....a team that included Antawn and Vince...arguably one of their better squads. So, anything can happen.....have a little respect....just try. i certainly respect everything roy is able to do.

HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone who says we should

Anyone who says we should get rid of those teams are tards... Maybe you forgot that the ACC doesn't only consist of this sport u call basketball... CLOWNS!

I am a graduate of UNC,so I

I am a graduate of UNC,so I have no axe to grind with the gist of the article.However,the criticising of coach Leonard Hamilton of Florida State irritates me.It is [1]unecessary to the article,[2]rude/harsh, and,[3] implies the author is an expert in coaching college basketball teams.I would suggest said author knows little or nothing about the position,otherwise he should make a great deal more money than he does...at least be an assistant coach at a small college.

ACC

This conference is too big. We need to get rid of BC, Va Tech, and Fla. State. What were they thinking adding so many teams spread so far apart that many don't play each other evenly? Oh, I forgot, money. Of course.

Thinking in a fog

Long distance away? Huh? Virginia Tech is "in the hood" by any thought process. Finally, VT is "home."

Too far apart, yet you want to keep Miami?

You want to get rid of VT (smack in the middle of ACC country) and keep Miami?  Give me a break.  VT was a natural fit due to location, Miami was a good balance to FSU...but BC is a puzzle.  They shouldn't have been the 12th team, IMO.  Maybe Louisville would've been a better choice at the time.

 

Seems most of the crying about ACC expansion is coming from the Tobacco Road area...hmmm...shocking.... 

can i hold you to that?

The only loss UNC might see is at Wake? Really? UNC is good and the consensus #1 but anything better than 14-2 in this conference would be surprising. Playing Duke twice as well as a talented Miami squad twice along with the game at WF. Thats 5 games where UNC has a VERY legitimate chance to lose.

1on1,   are you

1on1,

 

are you serious ought to be the question!! lose 5 games.  you might as well have gone all the way and said every game UNC plays they can lose!!

 

how bout you two fellas

how bout you two fellas tell you respected teams to do a better job of recruiting and become relative again. then maybe you won't do as much complaining!

the only thing that is wrong is teams who used to be relative (Maryland, GT, Virginia, WF --- not NCSU) simply are not relative anymore in college baskets. Albeit, WF appears to be turning things around.

tell those coaches to think outside the box and recruit better.

you two guys could care less about womens sports or any mens sport outside of the football, baskets, and bases.

quit complaining and tell your schools to recruit better, like UNC, and you won't complain anymore.

Beezer, Beezer, Beezer

Beezer, 

 

I read your comments 3 or 4 times before they made sense to me.  Since you are a UNC fan, I guess we shouldn’t expect much from you.  Just so you know ….

 Relative:  a person who is connected with another or others by blood or marriage.

Relevant:  bearing upon or connected with the matter in hand; pertinent So, if you went to UNC-CH, you really should give ‘em back your degree.  But, those teams are not *relevant* any more.  See, some times, things sound alike but mean different things. 

As a State grad, I have to tip my hat to you guys from time to time.  You have one of the finest “baskets” and “bases” programs in the country.  The English program ... not so much.

 

LOL AT STATE FAN

Seriously, why are you even looking at this? Marking your losses for next year?  Great job trying to make fun of the UNC fan for actually talking about what was said. In case you didn't even read, we are talking about BASKETBALL! OH yeah, ya SUCK at it. Not exactly an English lesson, but I hoped you learned something from this.

The next time I learn

The next time I learn ANYTHING from a UNC-Chapel Hill fan will be the first time.  I'll pass along to the NCSU folks that we should 'think outside the box' and 'recruit better' so that we can become "relative" again.  Oh, and we SUCK.  See, with insights like that, it makes it hard to learn anything from you guys.

 

Sadly, the conference has

Sadly, the conference has put the fans last. How easy is it for the ACC teams to drop a few of the patsies that they schedule and play every ACC team twice. 22 ACC games still give the schools a chance to play a few warmup games and a few out of conference marquis games. We as fans want to see ACC games, and are tired of games against East/West Podunk U.

Expansion

I'm all for keeping the 16-game schedule, but I'm also for revising the divisions and using them in all sports. Put all the "classic" ACC members in one division and all "new" members plus UVa (which joined in late 1953 after) in the other. Play everyone in your division twice, everyone in the other once for a total of 16 games. The divisions would look like this:ACC Classic: Clemson, Maryland, UNC, NC State, Duke, Wake ACC "New": UVa, Ga Tech, FSU, Va Tech, Miami, BC This setup balances the number of private schools in each division and gives each school an appropriate partner (Clemson/Ga Tech, Md/FSU, UNC/UVa, NCSU/VT, Duke/Miami, Wake/BC). This would give the conference strong interdivsional rivalries and keep strong intradivisional ones. The downside is that one division would, at first glance, seem to be strong in football while the other would be stronger in basketball. But I think the interdivisional battles to try to beat each other in those sports would make the rivalries heated. Right now, there's no passion in the conference. This arrangement, I think would change that.

UVa has been in the ACC for

UVa has been in the ACC for more than 50 years - hardly new.

22 games

The ACC coaches are CHICKEN! That's the bottom line. Maybe the Athletics Directors are as well. If not, they would all play 22 conference games. There are 12 schools that make up the ACC, and their first responsibility and desire should be to the conference, playing each other two times to determine the best teams in the league and not to play bogus schedules just to try to get to the NCAA tournament. So, how many conference schools made there the last two seasons? Four? Five? Give me a break. ACC men's basketball coaches have no guts. They are chicken and always will be until there are 22 conference games.

schedule

Well done J.P., but do you really think the Wolfpack can beat anybody in the ACC---home or away? Fowler doesn't have the guts or expertise to size up the situation so the Pack is in for a dismal five years to get the recruiting and coaching back on ACC level. Oh well, no guts no glory. Thanks Fowler.

expansion

The ACC expansion has hurt EVERY sport - both men and women. The weird formula for the men's baseball championship is probably the best example; even worse than the basketball pairings in my opinion.
Perhaps the biggest damage has occured with the horrible lack of TV coverage, and women's sports in particular have been devastated by this.

What we really need is a spin off into ACC South and ACC North, with six teams in each and one final playoff game or "meet" between the winners of each division for the league championship title, in all sports.

TOO MUCH MANIPULATION BY THE FRONT OFFICE!!!!!!!!

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Joe Giglio covers the ACC for the News & Observer, where he has worked since 1997.
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