UNC freshman football player Donte Paige-Moss was charged with misdemeanor simple assault after getting into a dorm-room fight with a teammate in July, according to UNC Public Safety.
The incident occurred at Horton Hall on July 16. According to a copy of the UNC Public Safety report, Paige-Moss punched teammate Hunter Furr twice in the nose. Furr, a running back from Lewisville, was treated at UNC Hospitals for possible injuries.
Paige-Moss, from Pollocksville, was arrested on July 17 by campus police and charged with a misdemeanor simple assault.
Paige-Moss, ranked as the eighth-best prospect in the country and the top defensive end by Scout.com, is scheduled to appear in Orange County court on Aug. 20.
UNC coach Butch Davis called the altercation a "very unfortunate situation" and said the two freshmen are "very, very good friends."
"We've talked about it to both of the players," Davis said. "We've already handled it internally."
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Apology
Sat, 08/15/2009 - 01:28 — Heels20I apologize for the comments I made about Hunter Furr. I know this is late, and that it's unlikely that people are still reading this blog, but I need to go ahead and apologize for some of my comments. Because of misunderstanding, I made comments that made Furr look like the one who did the wrong. As it turns out, he is not the one pressing charges. I humbly admit that I jumped to conclusions that were not rational considering my lack of understanding for the situation. That being said, I still disagree with GreenOne's comments about Moss spitting in his wife's face, selling drugs to his son and knocking up his daughter. Those comparisons were completely out of line, and showed just as much of a lack of understanding of the situation. Moss made a mistake, and he is suffering the consequences. I wish the best for both he and Furr and believe that this incident can serve as a learning experience for both players. Butch knows how to handle things and I give my full support to the Tar Heel program. Once again, I apologize to Furr, the team and Tar Heel nation as a whole for my comments regarding the incident. Go Heels, and let's get us an ACC title.
personally, I have never
Wed, 08/12/2009 - 10:01 — bppackpersonally, I have never come to blows with anyone I considered a friend, let alone a "very, very good friend." they "handled it internally"? yeah, we see the results of that.
Once the smoke clears...
Wed, 08/12/2009 - 09:54 — JPDOhiothere is the long-term question. You can say that boys will be boys and this particular incident will be resolved one way or another. Fine so far.
The long term question is whether Moss has a short fuse that his opponents will be able to use to provoke him during a game into doing something stupid that hurts his team. Butch can use this as a learning experience for Moss and the rest of his teammates. You've got to channel your emotions in a positive way and stay disciplined in how you act and react.
This whole controlling your emotions thing is easier said than done. But Butch has an opportunity use this incident to stress the importance of personal discipline and that actions have consequences.
"People don't just go around
Wed, 08/12/2009 - 04:16 — mad_max"People don't just go around punching someone in the face for no reason." -Unfortunately in today's world, some people do
"As far as my comment goes about Furr, if he's pressing charges, then that says to me that he deserved it. Fights happen. The fact that he's pressing charges on his teammate is pretty messed up." -Aren't you jumping the gun a little bit here? We don't know the details of this altercation. The fact that Furr is pressing charges could mean that Moss was just out of line and attacked him for no good reason. Truth is, we really have no idea since none of us were there. Best thing is to probably not make so many assumptions about it.
Also, you guys keep saying stuff like "fights happen". Well yeah they do, in grade school. When you're in college, you're becoming a man, and you should act like one. Anyone that gets into a fight like this when they are in college doesn't deserve to be there. And I mean that about any college student at any school...it's not like this crap only happens at UNC. This story is just a sad reminder of the messed up society we live in.
Charges
Wed, 08/12/2009 - 10:16 — Heels20The fact that Furr is pressing charges is only detrimental to the team. The matter could have been dealt with by the coaches. Even if they decided to suspend Moss, that would be a much better situation than him having to face charges and the problem being revealed to the public. Remember when Steve Smith punched Ken Lucas in the face a year ago? It sounded like Smith was not only out of line, but it wasn't a first time occurrance. Lucas still wouldn't press charges. 17 weeks later, the Panthers are the best team in the NFC. Issues between Lucas and Smith were resolved, they shook hands and everyone moved on. Moss was wrong to punch Furr, regardless, but the fact that Furr is pressing charges shows that his "revenge" is more important than the team as a whole.
GreenOne actually makes some
Wed, 08/12/2009 - 03:56 — mad_maxGreenOne actually makes some sense here. I don't think everyone realized that he was referring to the LT reference starting with his second post. Amazing how words have been put into his mouth on this thread. I'm sure Heels20 was just having some fun, but like I said, GreenOne does make some good points and it is a more serious issue than we sometimes give it credit for.
LT comment
Wed, 08/12/2009 - 10:12 — Heels20That comment was taken out of context and I took the time to explain it. I'm glad you clearly took the time to read...
Glad to see the old rules
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 19:44 — AgentPierceGlad to see the old rules are still in place...
* If it's "our player" then the police were "out to get him because ____". Misunderstood good kid who was an unfortunate victim of circumstance.
* If it's "their player" then he's a hardened criminal and should have been executed years ago. Never been worth a darn and never will be. Bad seed.
Bwahahahaha.
these rules
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 22:17 — gvillegatrhave been around for a looooong time and they will be around long after you or me matter!
right on green one!!!
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 16:33 — bluecat1they will accept and condone any behavior at unc, not so at duke, he would be gone tomorrow. go duke!!!!!!!!!!
That assertion..
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 17:43 — UNC1998is incorrect.
Correct
Wed, 08/12/2009 - 12:33 — SurferUNC 1998,
You are correct in your statement that bluecats assertion is incorrect.....DM would never even be at Dook.
Peter singer isn't a NC
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 15:36 — dwm1190Peter singer isn't a NC State player,,,recruit yes,,,but he still has a year of HS left...
Apples and Oranges. Donte
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 21:34 — Heels20Apples and Oranges. Donte Moss had yet to wear a UNC uniform when this had occurred. The way I see it, he was no different than Singer.
From July 17 to Aug 11 to
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 14:42 — dwm1190From July 17 to Aug 11 to see the light of day. Had this been a NC State player it would have been front page the week of the crime
Right on
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 15:12 — SurferYou are correct. Had this been a State player it would have been reported immediately. We would have known what he was wearing, what he had for breakfast and the last time he cut his fingernails, followed by TOB stating, "All I know is that I am the football coach, yada, yada, yada."
surfer girl
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 16:54 — bluecat1u are 100% correct, unc gets all of the breaks, like they do with bb, remember hans downer , aka MR FLOP,he is the only player that went to unc and never had a foul called on him, he was always wallering on the floor when a player got within 20 ft. of him. go duke!!!!!!!!!
Another Conf. Record
Wed, 08/12/2009 - 12:25 — SurferWow, bluecat, thanks for that enlightening info. If you are referring to hansbrough?, I know he set a number of records at UNC, but I did not know that never having a foul called on him was one of them. That further exemplifies how great a player he was at UNC. Of course he also became the ACC all-time scoring leader, pretty impressive huh? Considering [he was "wallering on the floor" most of the time]. Gosh, just think what he could have done if he was standing on his feet.
If a police report was filed...
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 17:46 — UNC1998It is a matter of public record. It is up to the public to read and report on it. While it may be seen as a responsibility of the school to report on it, that is opinion. It is not a rule or regulation. I dare say the evil media has it out for (insert team name here).
Wrong
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 14:49 — Heels20Less than a month ago, Peter Singer's crime was reported weeks after the fact. He was also caught driving under the influence in back in March, and that was also just reported a couple weeks ago.
sorry. didn't mean to do this.
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 17:49 — UNC1998sorry.
fighting!
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 13:23 — gvillegatrI used to love a good fight or two back in the day but I grew older and so will these guys!
Re: fighting!
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 13:31 — Heels20I'm just glad it wasn't the other way around. I'd question the hype on Moss a little bit if he had gotten the worst of it...
I'm sure Coach Davis will handle this...
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 12:55 — UNC1998but I don't expect anything to come of it. Freshmen will learn and be given a chance or two. I wouldn't expect behavior like this to continue.
Could just be my computer,
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 12:24 — mad_maxCould just be my computer, but this post is not showing up right. Looks like half the page is cut off.
***Well, nevermind. It fixed itself I guess.
Patience...
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 12:34 — JPDOhiois a virtue, max. One that is absolutely essential, but hard to come by, among Pack fans.
jppdohio
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 17:09 — bluecat1if u are a cow college fan, u are born with patience, remember, u have sidney to look forward to in nov. so crank up the patience u will need it when duke gets thru with the pack in fb and bb. go duke!!!!!!!!!!!
INCOMING !!!
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 11:40 — AgentPierceuh oh ..... this oughta get the local rivalry stirred up nicely. Could he be our next LT?
LT
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 12:24 — Heels20If he is as good of a defensive player as LT, then I welcome him with open arms.
Shaking my head
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 14:36 — GreenOneYeah, there's nothing like football prowess to overlook acting like a civilized individual. Why not let him come over to my house and spit in my wife's face, knock up my underage daughter, and sell drugs to my son.... so long as he can play some football on Saturday.
Can you honestly say you
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 19:21 — aideanCan you honestly say you never got in a fist fight with any friends/teammates when you were a teenager? He just got caught by the police is what sucked for him.
Re: Shaking my head
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 14:48 — Heels20He punched a guy in the face. Worse things have happened on this earth...
By the way, tell Peter Singer I said hello.
Still shaking my head - you just don't get it
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 20:28 — GreenOneIts not so much the incident that bothers me, hopefully, the parties involved will be dealt with and make amends. Its more so the glib attitude whose thought process is that if this guy is the second coming all issues should be swept under the rug.
Peter Singer? Let the NC State community worry about theirs, this article and discussion is about two Carolina kids.
You just don't get it
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 21:32 — Heels20The majority of the people on this board have punched someone in the face at some point. You making comments as though he's guilty of rape and drug-dealing is totally off-topic. Should he have punched someone in the face? No. But the guy is 18 years old and no one knows the details. If I had to guess, Furr probably deserved it. Our liberal society seems to reward the guy who starts the fight and punish the guy who finishes it.
ATTENTION!!!
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 22:10 — gvillegatrsomeone frame the post I am replying to!! It is so true on so many levels!!
Still not getting through to you
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 21:54 — GreenOneYour comment that if he is as good as LT that you welcome him with opens arms is the reason for any of my postings. My over the top hyperbole was to further reverberate the thought that you would allow him to get away with anything so long as he is helping Carolina win ballgames on Saturday.
As for the incident, I'm sure they will both be dealt with internally and the charge will be dismissed eventually which is in the best interest of the university and football program as a whole. (Also, good job in throwing Furr under the bus to shine a better light on Moss.... would your viewpoint have been different if Furr was the 5star kid and Moss was the lesser known recruit?)
Before posting such glib statements on a serious matter, why don't you take the time and view things from a different viewpoint and take football out of the equation.
Trust me
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 22:04 — Heels20My opinion would be the same if this had nothing to do with football. People don't just go around punching someone in the face for no reason. As far as my comment goes about Furr, if he's pressing charges, then that says to me that he deserved it. Fights happen. The fact that he's pressing charges on his teammate is pretty messed up.
As far as my comment about LT goes, I'll repeat. HE PUNCHED SOMEONE IN THE FACE. BIGGER THINGS HAVE HAPPENED. I'm not going to think any less of this guy because of what happened. Therefore, if he plays as well as LT, then that's great, I'd love to have him. I'm not going to be some weird liberal non-violence-reward-the-criminal guy named "GreenOne" who makes this a much bigger deal than it actually is. Go hug a tree.
"It's like playing cards with my brother's kids"
Wed, 08/12/2009 - 09:05 — GreenOne"He punched someone in the face"... yes, it's called battery and its crime. Do I hope that cooler heads prevail and the charge is dismissed and we can all move on? Yes. But without knowing more details, this could have been an unprovoked act worthy of the court system for a number of reasons.
"I'm not going to be some weird liberal non-violence-reward-the-criminal guy". Take all the cheap shots at me that you want, but it seems that you are the one doing the provoking now. (Don't worry, I think I can control my temper and not retaliate against you). Also, isn't for all intensive purposes from the details that we know, the criminal being Donte Moss since he is the one charged with a crime. So from your arguments you do want to reward him and have taken his side without knowing all of the facts.
Can't do this anymore
Wed, 08/12/2009 - 10:01 — Heels20First, you took my LT comment completely out of context (already explained it), then you conveniently steer away from my comment about Peter Singer, and finally you act as though our government has a history of handling these cases the right way. Do I know that Furr provoked him? No. However, although I haven't seen it as much in college, by things I saw in high school, when a guy pressed charges for simple assault, he was the one that started the fight EVERY SINGLE TIME. The fact that Furr is pressing charges on his own teammate says a couple things to me:
1. He's soft. He can't let this matter be held internally and taken care of by the coaches and he can't talk it out with Moss himself.
2. He's selfish. While he may be getting "revenge" from this, his actions are detrimental to the 80-some other guys on the team.
Is this definitely the case? Who knows? But I can't think of any other reason for why it's necessary to press charges. I'm not familiar with you, GreenOne, but by what I can tell, it's probably hard for you to wrap your mind around the fact that Furr is probably guilty of something. However, you're entitled to your opinion and if you believe that it's more likely that Moss just goes around punching people in the face, then go right ahead. I'm getting talked in circles and don't feel like playing this game anymore.
You're still only seeing one side of this
Wed, 08/12/2009 - 10:43 — GreenOneI can't believe that you can still only see one side of this issue. You've decided once again to throw Furr under the bus. These are both Carolina kids who should be supported equally.
Why did Furr charge Moss with a crime? Maybe he deserved it, maybe he didn't, maybe because Furr's father is a lawyer, maybe he had to for medical issurance reasons...... fact is, none of us have all the facts.
But why call Furr soft and selfish.... why is he getting 'revenge' and hurting the other 80-some guys on the team. I would tend to think Moss was the one who created the situation with his "unprovoked act" or "retaliatory act" or "revengeful act". The point being is that we don't have all of the facts and I feel that you are defending the guy whose football prowess is projected to make a bigger impact for the Tarheels on Saturdays.
This incident would never have even been discussed, if not for both parties having been members of the Carolina football team. Unfortunately, their lives are now under a microscope and everything they do will reflect upon the university as such. Could this have been handled internally? Probably. Should this incident have been swept under the rug? Absolutely not.
Yes, clearly I am just
Wed, 08/12/2009 - 10:55 — Heels20Yes, clearly I am just defending the more highly-regarded recruit. That's why I said it would have been better if Moss had been suspended. I would also like to retract all of my statements. You're right, Furr did the right thing by going to the cops. This way, it is released to the public and clearly is unlikely to cause any issues within the team. Moss punched him for absolutely no reason and is a menace to society. Any one who supports him is the kind of person that would be fine if he "spat in your wife's face and knocked up your daughter" as long as he could play on Sundays. Ya got me, you caught The Tator.
lets clear the air by saying
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 22:14 — gvillegatrMoss is being compared to LT while he was at UNC. don;t look at the big picture ... yet.